Thread 106407428

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106401392

>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Hope the AI crash doesn't take computer gaming as a whole with it. I starting to get worried about the future.

>>106405819
>If you deepfry Unreal Engine enough you can turn Oblivion into Daggerfall

I would like to start a petition to remove the 9070xt from the op

>>106407428 (OP)
any undervolting advice for 5070? i play 1440p 60fps

>>106407651
You have cyberpunk? That + 1 loop of the benchmark with pt will probably tell you if it's unstable. Better than any other stress test I know of.
For my card max stable at .875v targeting 2720mhz, .950v was 3072, and 1.05v 3257. The first will very rarely exceed 140ish watts, but is 6/7% slower (but I also have on of the better cards, shittier ones that's still probably about the same/higher than what you'd see under full load)
Also I'm 99.9% sure +3000 on memory is stable on all 5070/5070ti's

>>106407723
I meant 6/7% slower than stock

>>106407597
nvidia thinks this is next gen

>>106407656
lol

well fuck it then
if i can't build a worthwhile gaming pc now i'll build a server/nas instead

>>106407923
That's what I'm doing. Going to build a nas this black friday and wait for next year or the 6000 series graphics cards to build my computer.

>>106407625
why?

Wanted to upgrade viddy card in my prebuilt acer pos. I don’t nothin bout buildin nothin. Bought card, doesn’t fit case. Psu doesn’t have right plugs. Buy new psu cheapest with enough watts. Has right plugs but not enough. Now I have a frankebox on its side with the gpu on a riser just laying on the case, with two psus rigged to run for one system. Why tf this shit so complicated lmao it should all “just work” what the fuck. And the motherboard doesn’t even have proper power plugs can’t even swap with the new psu lmao damn. Piece of shit.

>>106407656
And idiots have been complaining about the OP recommending 5060 Ti 16GB.

>>106407934
>>106407923
NAS are memes
just use all 4 m.2 slots with 8tb drives and all 6 sata slots of your motherboard with 24tb drives
you didn't get got by the MATX meme, right?

>>106407971
5070ti more or less makes it obsolete unless radeon does a big discount or you're running linux

>>106408021
I mean, if its cheaper than the 5070ti in your location you'd get it over the 5070ti.
stop being a brand stan.

>>106407428 (OP)
>Zen5 CPUs continuing the 7800x3d legacy

How was PixArt allowed to gain a monopoly on mouse sensors?

What is coming next and the upcoming developments for OLED monitors? I'd like a 4K 27 inch but I'm not in the right situation to get one at the moment.

>>106408015
Is there a mobo that doesn't deactivate 4/6 SATA ports when all m2 slots are used?

>>106407656
He's right with 5080 being mediocre at best and 5070 Ti at the current price being a top deal.

>>106408190
they put a 9950x on a asus prime mobo. its like asking for death.

>>106408217
>>106408087

>>106407656
>nvidia is trying to sell 8GB cuck cards with 8 pci lanes for 450 dollars
why are people even buying these

>>106408223
Most people aren't buying them as a retail product
It's included in pre-builts or as laptop GPUs

Are these fish tank style cases actually decent? I've been thinking about getting one, but they don't seem too sturdy to me.

>>106407651
The easiest way is to set a +200MHz offset using the GPU Core (MHz) slider in Afterburner, and lower the Power Limit slider (anywhere between 75~85%).
You can push the GPU Core offset a bit higher (in 15MHz increments), but it might get unstable.
You can set a voltage cap using the Curve Editor, like in the video below (flatten the right side of the curve).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOU

925 ~ 975mV is the performance/efficiency sweet spot.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md#undervolting

You need to use the beta version of Afterburner to unlock memory OC past 2000MHz.
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-6-beta-6-with-unofficial-rdna4-support.456792/

>>106407993
>prebuilt acer pos
This is the source of all your problems.
Prebuilt PCs usually have proprietary PSUs & motherboards that restrict upgradeability.
It's partly to prevent owners from trying to install components that the board & PSU aren't good enough to handle, but mostly for cost saving.

>>106408087
>Fell for the ASUS Prime & Noctua air cooler memes.
But seriously, AMD wouldn't be so cooperative with CPU RMAs if they weren't (partly) responsible for the damage.

>>106408182
You need to wait a while for Max OLED panels, I'm guessing at least 3~5 years.
There might be newer 4K OLED panels with DisplayHDR TrueBlack 500 certification within the next 1~2 years.
The current panels are technically capable of reaching TB1000, but display & monitor manufacturers can't guarantee that level of brightness to be sustainable for 3~5 years.

>>106408190
I don't think this is a problem for newer chipsets, not for the B650 & B850 boards I've seen.

>>106408363
well yeah, they don't have the balls to tell the motherboard vendors to stop being retarded and stick to the spec, they're still thinking like underdogs.

>>106408342
This single experience was alone annoying enough that I have zero interest in rectifying my frankenbox on its side situation as it currently works and lets me gen my big titty 1girls ad Nauseam. Fuckin 5070ti cost more than the whole pc did a few years ago kek

enthusiasts are understandably pissed that nvidia is cucking them on vram for the ~60 series cards.

but i'm getting kinda annoyed seeing reviewers talk about how shit the 60 series cards are at 1440p or 4k or whatever.

if most customers are still on 1080p monitors then it might make sense for nvidia to cut costs on vram. i view it as a shitty situation but not an evil one, and i more so blame retarded consumers stuck on 1080p.

>>106408454
>enthusiasts
>60 series cards
c'mon now

>>106408454
the only cards that should have 8gb are the 50 series cards for poorfags and even then the 5050 is still priced too high.

its not just Nvidia btw, its AMD too. the 9060XT 8gb shouldn't exist.. the worst thing is they both had time to alter course because it was clear last gen that 8gb was no longer going to cut it and the 4060 and 7600 were panned for only having 8gb.

>>106408422
Damn really? My X870 loses 2 SATA ports each if I use M2_2 or M2_3 slot. So best I can run is 4 m2's and 2 SATAs

>>106408498
They know it's easy to fool impressionable kids & parents who don't do enough research.

>>106408576
It's the trade-off of getting USB4.

>>106408611
I did want the USB4. I didnt realize it came at such a cost, ive only had mobos that had lane sharing. Oh well, probably not going to have more than 6 drives running anyways

>>106408279
Does anyone know any cases similar to this one but without the left side vent? I have the case set up next to my arm and i don't want the air blowing there, thanks.

>>106408279
Not ideal airflow-wise, but they're good enough.

>>106408576
on the MSI MAG X870, they lane split like this:
>USB 40Gbps Type-C ports on the back panel and M2_2 slot share PCIe 5.0 x4
bandwidth. Both run at PCIe 5.0 x2 when a device is installed in the M2_2 slot.
>You can switch M2_2 to PCIe 5.0 x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the USB
40Gbps Type-C ports
and
>PCI_E3 slot will run at x2 speed when installing device in the M2_3 slot. You
can switch PCI_E3 slot to x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the M2_3 slot. Or disable the PCI_E3 slot and then the M2_3 slot will run x4 speed.
Perhaps that would be a better fit for your needs.

>>106375736 (me)
So it turns out you guys were right, buying the right power cables fixed it and I may in fact be retarded. However, I still think that having a physically standardized connector without standardized pinouts is also retarded.

>>106408643
What would be a better case? I'm mainly looking for easily reachable usb ports either on the side or the front of the case.

how long do my pumps have left if i had to back the screws out about a turn all around on the pump mounts to stop them from causing my case to vibrate xd

>>106408685
Cases with front intake fans provide better airflow for the components, but get the fish tank case if you like the design.
But I don't think there are ones without a side vent.

>>106408677
When will we be able to just have it all? I'll sacrifice the SATA ports before the other stuff I guess

>>106408723
Any modern front fans case that still has the usb ports in the front or on the sides like in pic related?

>>106408798
You might like the Phanteks Evolv X2
https://phanteks.com/product/evolv-x2-black/
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811854141

There are some downsides, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9XnEReteE

Should i just say fuck it and buy a 5070 ti? Ive been oogling over a new pc build for 6 months and the gpu market newer gets better.
Absolute cheapest 5070ti is 9500NOK(norway) which is 942$ but i was considering getting the Gainward 5070 Ti Phoenix-S GS version for 50$ more. Worth the 50$? Im tired of having to run games on low&mid settings to get more than 100+ fps. Feels like ive been waiting for nothing these last months. Black week/black friday in Norway is also terrible, every shop here turns up prices beforehand to than lower back to same prices they had

Current spec: 1080ti, 3200mhz 16GB DDR4 ram, m2 ssd, I7 8700k cpu, i really wanna upgrade so badly...

>>106408972
If you need an upgrade now, you should get it.
5070 Ti Super 24GB is almost guaranteed to cost even more.

>Absolute cheapest 5070ti is 9500NOK(norway) which is 942$ but i was considering getting the Gainward 5070 Ti Phoenix-S GS version for 50$ more. Worth the 50$?
What's the other model? Compare the card dimension from the official product page; it's worth spending a bit more if the Phoenix-S GS has the larger cooler & fans.

>>106408986
these are the other 2 options, inno3d has 2x low quiet cooler 'modes' while gigabyte has 3. Honestly dont know too much the difference, my budget is already so damn high idm spending 50$ if i get any better cooling/performance out of it. The gainward geforce Phoenix-S GS version were normally 100$ more but its discounted now for a few more days

>SAAR, kindly remember to pair an AMD GPU with an AMD CPU for SAM.
What did I say about CS2? Game software issue.

>>106407656
wtf? Selling my 9070 XT and getting a 9060 XT.

>>106408972
You can't go wrong with an MSRP 5070ti >>106407656

>>106409032
Phoenix-S GS is only 3cm longer, I'd get the Windforce if you trust Gigabyte has solved the leaky thermal gel issue.
Gigabyte claims only early RTX 50 & RX 9000 production units were affected.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/even-powergpus-founder-cant-escape-thermal-gel-leakage-from-gigabyte-rtx-50-master

If you don't trust them, get the Inno3D.

>>106409065
is it MSRP though? almost 999$ but is that because of important/tax fee in Europe/Norway?

Good build for $730 all new?

>>106409079
If the 9070 XT is significantly cheaper in your region, get it instead.
You will have to use Optiscalar mod to inject FSR4 into unsupported games (doesn't work on Vulkan).

>>106409072
>Phoenix-S GS is only 3cm longer, I'd get the Windforce if you trust Gigabyte has solved the leaky thermal gel issue.
idk anything about the thermal issues, is there no point getting the gainward one then? "Phoenix-S GS" is just a fance name they slap an extra 100$ on?
picrel is TFD, one reason i wanna upgrade, it looks and feels terrible playing it, have to lock to 60fps

Tomorrow I build, I'm excited for my first

>>106409098
9070xt is another 100$ cheaper then cheapest 5070ti, i was convinced earlier i wanted it but meh, even if nvidia is scummy they're still the goat of gpu's.

>>106409036
>i5-265k

>>106409105
>is there no point getting the gainward one then?
I don't think so.

>>106409120
you can never complain about the price of gpus again.

>>106409158
The 265K's P-core can provide strong single-threaded performance, and the E-cores are much better than the ones on 12/13/14th gen CPUs.
9060 XT & 5060 Ti is bottlenecking newer 3D-Vcache CPUs in CS2.

>>106409200
I was mentioning the incorrect prefix.

>>106409206
Core Ultra is a shitty rebrand, i3/5/7/9 kept things simple & memorable.

Cheapest best 4k240hz OLED?

>>106409218
It's U3/U5/U7/U9 now.

>>106409251
Except no one says this, not even in Intel's official marketing materials.
There are Intel laptop CPUs with a -U suffix.

>>106408972
anything else i want to change last minute? Is the 4000D case a decent option for "first" time builders? Havent touched pc parts in almost 10 years. Are the mobo, ram and ssd fine here?

>>106409228
The cheapest one starts @ $810 in the US, and there are plenty of $900 4K 240Hz OLED monitors to choose from.
$810 option is the ASRock WOLED (PGO32UFS) with 4K/1080p dual mode support; it has limited burn-in protection features, which some may consider to be a plus.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pgo32ufs
https://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/dominic-moass/asrock-pgo32ufs-review-dual-mode-woled/8/

I'd just pay a bit more and get a better $900 QD-OLED monitor; you're already spending over $800.

God the new intel CPU names are so retarded. Why bother rebranding when everyone will keep calling them i3, i5, i7, i9?

>>106407656

Heres some finnish gpu prices now
5070 and 5070 ti are by far the best options
amd is overpriced while lacking nvidia featureset
theres no good options below 5070 price

>>106408087
kek IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING

>>106409308
surely there's something better for the money

>>106409097
I would pay a bit more for a dual tower cooler for quieter fan operation.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4gDQzy/thermalright-rk120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-rk120-se

This memory kit is also worth spending a bit more on.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NZhv6h/silicon-power-xpower-pulse-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-sp032gxlwu64afdjad

I never bought KingSpec SSDs; I would check customer & professional reviews.

>>106409308
Check if the newer 4000D FRAME case is available; it has better airflow.

>>106409338
Similar situation here in Bulgaria - the 5070 is by far the best deal starting at 600 euro. The 5070Ti starts at 900, the 5060Ti 16GB is about 500.
9060XT 16GB is 430 euro, 9070 is 750 euro, 9070XT also starts at about 750-800 euro.
The 5070 is easily the best brand new GPU deal. On the used market the best deal is probably the 4060 8GB for 200 euro, which is low enough wattage to be a drop-in replacement for old shit like the 1060, 1660, 2060, etc. that you might still be keeping around, to breathe new life into the PC.

>>106409392
well, did you have any recommendations in mind?

>>106409444
>Check if the newer 4000D FRAME case is available
yeah im pretty sure i got the 4000d in cart? Originally had non-frame ver, hell it might've been you who mentioned it to me like a month ago when i was oogling over build again xdd

>Want to buy a rx 9070 xt
>Feel like if I buy it the price will drop next week

>>106408831
>X2 downsides
Can't fit 1:7 scale weeb figurine

>>106409200
The 265k is an i7/U7

>>106408217
Unless Asus fucked up, undersized vrms don't harm CPUs but only throttle and cost it some performance

what's a good program to burn CD/DVD?

>>106409444
Checked
>SNKRR

>>106405251
uh weird pcpartpicker doesn't show that mobo even if I start from scratch and just set the itx and ecc filters

>>106409098
>>106409120
You would have to be retarded to buy a 9070XT before redstone is out dont listen to the amdrone, redstone is supposed to come out very soon (next 4 months) if AMD still cant compete software wise with that out then you'll regret it, also the super series may be announced

>>106408638
>but without the left side vent?
That's an intake. It's pretty common with this style of case, to have some "reverse blade" fans (usually on the side & bottom).

>>106407071
But when will it finally happen?

>>106409619
Pcpp doesn't have everything keyed in

>>106409539
Haven't you learned? Buy now, regret later. I don't think prices will be slashed until a replacement is announced and that'll take a few months, won't it?

>>106409539
had to return mine BECAUSE THE STUPID FUCKING THING KEPT CRASHING MY PC. FUCK RADEON. i gave them second chance. my 5700xt was have driver issues but at least it only crashed my games. my 9070xt was rebooting my entire fucking PC and i had enough. 6 years and they still cant figure out drivers. Fuck AMD

>>106409941
sounds like a user issue

>order thing
>normally it'd be delivered already so I ask about it
>sorry we got issues, next shipment comes around in about... 1 month

its like cbt except for consumerism

>>106405239
>>106405251
Aight I redid the build from scratch and assuming pcpartpicker is wrong about ecc support for that mobo, this should do. The cpu has no igpu though so I don't know how am I supposed to enter the bios like this

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600XT 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€116.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock A520M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (€96.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Server Premier 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory (€59.58 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN750 250 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€48.99 @ SanDisk)
Case: Jonsbo N2 Mini ITX Desktop Case (€140.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply (€149.97 @ Amazon)
Total: €612.03

>>106410082
>Case: Jonsbo N2 Mini ITX Desktop Case (€140.00 @ Amazon)
Man, why are Mini ITX cases so expensive?

My ryzen 5800h laptop lags really badly when running android emulators which is making me hesitant to go to AMD for my next desktop. Intel is just all around more reliable still right? I don't care that much about the increases in fps in gaming

>>106410163
Not really. They both have issues but most users won't encounter them. If your emulator uses some intel-specific technology like VT-d then sure go for it but you should look into why it's lagging first; if it's something simple like running out of memory or thrashing a core then an upgrade in that area, regardless of vendor, should fix it. Ideally you'd find benchmarks but idk if anyone benches Android emulators like that. Worth checking, still. FWIW, Intel's current gen processors aren't /bad/ in general - they just don't offer as much value for the average consumer.

i used newegg trade in to trade in my 7600 for $110 to a 7800x3d for ~280 after trade. gaming at 1440p, disappointing int he 7600 in a few select jank games. how bad did i fuck up?

>>106410163
Laptops always overheat and throttle. It's not a good measure of a CPU brand's performance as it hugely depends on the laptop manufacturer's cooling design.
To answer your question, intel's fastest desktop CPUs, 13th/14th gen, is affected by massive reliability issues from voltage causing accelerated wear. Their 12th gen is okay but slower than amd's Ryzen 9000 series of CPUs.

>>106410221
You did good. The 7800x3d is seriously impressive for how fast it is and how little power it uses even compared to the 9800x3d

Are the Core Ultras still shit? Are they that much worse than the 14xxx?

aight welp, i ordered >>106408972 5070ti not in stock so 2~ish weeks. Frame 4000D comes with 3 front intake fans, and i ordered 1 120mm exhaust fan, but im wondering if i should have another exhaust fan mounted at the back top aswell? directly over the cpu cooler?

>>106410315
5% regression compared to 14th gen

>>106410374
That's unfortunate.

>>106409072
Is Inno3D a good manufacturer?

Please rate my build

>>106410448
this will be for mostly internet browsing/wfh but with occasional games
The 2tb is for windows and the 1tb is for linux

>>106410204
>>106410250
The emulator was LD Player and it was lagging with 1+ second delay playing Azur Lane, an old gacha game. That laptop didn't have cooling issues since I could play more demanding games as it had a mobile 3060. My 10700k has no problems.

I'll be running multiple instances of LD Player or whatever better future emulator comes out on my desktop. I want my obscure Japanese indie hentai game to work. I read anecdotes like my screenshot and it makes me unsure.

Does anyone know which current platform is more reliable, smooth and snappy?

>>106410454
t. jewtew shill

>>106410454
I have used 12th, 13th gen and Ryzen 7000 and 9000. There's no difference in snappiness between those CPUs other than the occasional strange SSD seeking lag on the hybrid intel CPUs

>buy new monitor
>very good image quality, resolution, brightness, responsiveness, all for 200 euro
>still has bezels like my old monitor
When will monitors reach 2025 technology and stop lying to us? This literally looks like extra screen with just a few mm of black bezel around it (the casing), but no, the edges aren't actually screen. Fucking hell, my phone has essentially no bezels.

>>106408087
I've never heard of so many CPUs frying themselves in their first year of life and yet none of the youtubers seems to give a shit lol it's clear who pays for their ads

>>106408087
>200 different kinds of motherboard all fry CPUs from one vendor only
>the 200 motherboards are to blame
>the user is to blame
>AMD IS NOT AT FAULT

>>106410510
Eh, sometimes I require a webcam for work so I end up preferring monitors with bezels, at least for a secondary one.

>>106410451
>>106410448
>CPU
If "wfh" means Excel/Word/browser you could save some money here. Don't need 12 cores unless you're going to use them all at once (rendering, encoding, compiling, etc.).
>mobo
It's fine but again probably overkill depending on your workload.
>HDD
At this capacity I'd be thinking RAID at the least and ideally a NAS. If you've got some backup/network stuff running already it's fine.
>Card
Almost eight hundred of the King's English Pounds Sterling for a 5060Ti.
>Case
Fine to keep if you already have it but it's pretty outdated and not even discounted.
>PSU
Extreme overkill for these components. Frankly still overkill if you jumped the card up by three tiers.

>>106410567
Thank you. For the case, I could switch to a Meshify 3.
I don't mind being overkill with the hope of it lasting a while. My current computer has lasted me 12 years because I went overkill there also.
I think NAS is a better solution but the idea of creating a NAS system instead of just a hard drive I can slot in seems easier, but maybe that is better.

>>106410584
>For the case, I could switch to a Meshify 3
Yes that would be better temps/noise-wise but you do lose the dust filter. OTOH the (properly filtered) Meshify 2 has worse fans so pick your poison. Other case brands are available.

>I don't mind being overkill with the hope of it lasting a while
Sure but 8 is currently the "headroom" count for gaming/browsing and you will get the option of an in-socket upgrade if you ever need it. Plus FWIW some games see a small regression on the dual-CCD CPUs.
The real problem with all this "overkill" stuff is that it's adding up to a significant amount. There's probably £400 of easy savings in that build which could go towards more impactful components - a 5060Ti is not going to last 12 years. Or, alternatively, it could be put towards other stuff like your chair/audio/mortgage/etc.

>I think NAS is a better solution...
It would be. You'd get the benefits of redundancy and easy access to your media anywhere on the network. Really I'm mostly concerned about putting all your WFH files on a single HDD. Again, it's fine if your company has some sort of backup system or it's just going to be replaceable stuff like films.

stacked or side by side for dual monitors if one is 32 inch and one 27?

>>106408190
No there is not

>>106410654
side by side is almost always more ergonomic

>have 3 x 3.5" SATA HDD as media storage
>Windows load and shutdown times are abysmal when they are connected
>near instant when they are disconnected
>causes lag in games too
>have to disconnect them offline in Windows Disk Manager before playing anything competitive
>solution? convert to USB interface
>don't really want NAS/DAS

This is what I came up with. Do you think this cable salad would work? I'm going to buy SATA F-M extension cable to try with HDD enclosure that I have before scaling up.

>>106410698
thanks bro

>>106410649
Thanks again.
I am just used to Define so don't know where to go. I don't care about aesthetics, just want something quiet with good airflow.

I looked at the other CPUs that are supposedly worse and they all seem roughly the same price or even more expensive. The same goes for the PSU. I am open to recommendations though.

I will consider NAS for now instead (all work stuff is backed up online).

I'll drop the graphics card for now and keep what I have as it is still good enough.

>>106410760
PSU is overkill and a bit expensive. How much for ASUS TUF 850W or COOLER MASTER V2 GOLD 850W?

>>106410730
wat
the issue is that everything has to wait while the disks spin up
I don't know if whatever autism you diagrammed is going to fix that

>>106410871
shiiiieeet, how much for 12TB SSD storage?

>>106410730
>>have 3 x 3.5" SATA HDD as media storage
what drives are they

4ish hours until I become the proud owner of a brand new PC with a 9600 and 5070 to upgrade my old i5 10400 and 1660S combo

>>106410889
WD blue for raping it with torrents and two WD red nas for storage

>>106410912
didn't need to sidegrade

>>106410730
>>don't really want NAS/DAS
why not
I don't get people that don't want their files available to them wherever they are at any time they want on any device they own

>>106410931
it's a separate box and I don't want another box
I already have one box that is PC case

>>106410760
>I looked at the other CPUs that are supposedly worse and they all seem roughly the same price or even more expensive
Pic rel.
>7600/X
If you really need to cut. Should be fine for office/web for at least 5 years.
>9600/X
As above but if you need AVX512 (but don't do much n-thread work).
>7700/X
If you do occasional n-thread stuff but aren't time-limited.
>9700X
As above but with AVX512.

>The same goes for the PSU.
There's loads of PSUs that'd fit this build just fine under £100. Unless you're actually thrashing it 24/7 you're not going to notice a difference in your electricity bill by going Gold over Titanium.

>I'll drop the graphics card for now
I mean sure but my comment was more about that particular model being way overpriced. There's 5060Ti 16GB models for <£400.

What's up with the motherboard swap btw? Better feature set for your needs?

>>106410981
>>106410760
Forgot to mention, the 9700X probably isn't worth it with the 9900X at £280. Not a big enough saving.

>>106410649
>It would be. You'd get the benefits of redundancy and easy access to your media anywhere on the network.
not him but yeah I went this route. Bought an old 8600k + mobo + ram off my friend, bumped the ram to 64gb, threw truenas on it, and i can selfhost stuff and also access my stuff from anywhere since I can just VPN home. that reminds me I should dust the thing out, it's running continuously

>>106408389
>Still VRR flickers and black crushes in your path(traced game)

I don't follow news for hardware

Is there anything better coming out in the next 3-4 months, or should I just buy a 9070xt now and be done with it

>>106411237
nope, get a 5070ti if its cheaper in your region otherwise get the 9070xt if its cheaper in your region.

how bad is the burn-in issue in OLED really atm? looking to getting a new 1440@27", and there are some schnazzy looking OLEDs for a decent price in my country (switzerland). but around half of my time at the computer is productivity work (coding, writing, blender etc.), that's i'd say about 1-3h per day.

>>106411249
>5070ti
fuck i forgot that existed, that's probably the better choice for me

is there one better/best version of it I should get or are all the cards and coolers identical these days?

Required PSU for a 9800x3D + 9070XT combo, is 850w enough or you can do with less? Also what's the sweetspot for DDR5, is it 5600 or 6000?

>>106411359
they're all much of a muchness.
the 9070XT and 5070TI are basically identical too, which is why the recommendation is get whatever is cheapest in your region.

>>106411378
for AM5 its 6000 CL30.
you could probably get away with a 650W but 750W has a bit more headroom and space for upgrades because PSUs can last a decade.

>>106407428 (OP)
How did I do? Budget $800 USD. Also how long will this last me? I have a 1080 monitor. Thanks!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8fVhzP

>>106411547
badly.

>>106410760
265K build is better for work

In redditland, Steam deck + PC is the most popular console, android is the most popular phone in america, and AMD GPUs are top tier.

>>106411555
Can you point me to a better build in this range? Thanks!

installing a 9800x3d + phantom spirit 120 se in a motherboard i bought used
only the 4th dimm slot (b2) works

did i buy a dud board or have i overtightened the cooler?

>>106411359
Coolers vary a lot
The PNY 5070ti is decent if you get one that doesn't have rattling fans. Smaller models like the gigabyte aero, Asus prime and MSI ventus/shadow run hotter and louder than larger ones like the PNY and Zotac solid

>>106411575
Did they get over orange man yet

>>106411620
what's the cooler got to do with your ram slots not working

>>106411547
>spending 1/3rd of the budget on vanity
Get a simpler case made by okinos if you want ARG fans, they come preinstalled.
Use that freed budget to go from a 12400f to 12600k + 32GB of DDR5 and if you're gaming get a better GPU
Also that motherboard that you have selected is barebones

Here's something I'd build for around 800 dollars:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqWWQd

I'd personally up the budget if I could to 900 dollars and get a 9060XT 16gb or 5060Ti 16gb with a build like this

does the 5700x3d throttle at 85c?
seems to stall at that temp when im compiling shaders

>>106411699
Yes. AMD set it that way since they didn't know how first gen 3d vcache will fare in the real world

>>106411699
run prime95 and it will go to 90 C
5700X3D has very low clock limits

>>106411547
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9mWWQd

>>106411664
Uneven mounting pressure weakening pin-pad contact in the CPU socket. Some of those pins communicate with the RAM slots.

>>106411592
the 3050 6gb is complete trash, do not even consider it. I think even the RX6600 is not viable for the money anymore because its no longer under $200 but it is twice as powerful as the 3050 6gb.
you can get a better SSD for not much more.
5600 ram is trash.
as >>106411666
said, the 12600K is faster than the 14400 and is only $10 over the 12400.

>>106411699
The limit is 90C on the 58. Doubt they'd change it on the 57 but you can confirm with your monitoring software of choice.

I have two screens and I am considering a NAS system. However, I have this idea. I buy a cheap case and throw some cheapish parts in for a basic homemade NAS. I then connect my normal computer to my left screen and my "NAS" to my right screen. I connect the computers with ethernet and use the mouse without borders thing to use the same m+kb for both. This way I can have Windows and Linux at the same time.

Any reasons why this is retarded?

I haven't kept up to date on this 16 pin nonsense.

I wanna order a 5080 since they're MSRP now, this is my PSU. Do I need to buy some special cable or a whole new PSU?

>>106411877
The special cable comes in the box with the card

>>106411877
No need to upgrade since Corsair sells 12v-2x6 to dual 8-pin type 4 cables on amazon

>>106411865
>I connect the computers with ethernet
Unfortunately that's not how that works. You could rig up a system where you're "permanently" SSH'd into your NAS on the second monitor but realistically it'd just be easier to run a VM if you need to jump between multiple operating systems. Plus, presumably, the NAS will be quite weak so having quick access to its compute wouldn't even be all that useful.

>>106412013
Oh well, I'll just buy some Synology box then

>>106412045
If you like. Back when I built mine they weren't great value, especially if you want to run plugins, but they work well enough. I guess your main problem is you seem confused about what you want. If you just want a NAS then you don't really need instant access but if you want quick access to a Linux environment you need something stronger than a Synology box.

ASRock is basically admitting BIOS vers. 3.25 & 3.30 didn't solve the CPU-killing issues with this new update.

>>106412206
they finally updated the auto memory voltages

>>106412206
>>106412397
Shit makes me honestly want AMD and Intel to just lock fucking everything down and any deviation means you no longer get to make mobos.

Mobo "competition" is not at all good for consumers in the way it's being done currently.
Should always be done based on value and features, not how quickly you can kill CPUs.

>>106412431
AMD would need to provide some actual guidance on safe voltages then, because no one is going to sell a high-end motherboard that only supports JEDEC RAM
like they did back with zen 1

>>106412453
>because no one is going to sell a high-end motherboard that only supports JEDEC RAM
If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes.

IDK why this industry keeps wanting to pretend all this min-max retard shit is suitable for PCs that are expected to be used. Start putting asterisks on products on products not guaranteed to be stable over the long term and thus not suitable for "production"

Shit keeps happening but I'm apparently the retard because I don't have full faith to run every single boost algorithm or dont have full faith in the cottage industry of OCed RAM.

>>106412453
AMD does provide guidance but they're literally too chickenshit to tell the motherboard manufacturers that they have to follow it.
they're literally this character from Better Call Saul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpSpRJzd49c

>>106412586
>AMD does provide guidance but they're literally too chickenshit to tell the motherboard manufacturers that they have to follow it
there's a hard cap of 1.3 V SOC in AGESA
so it's probably not the source of the problem at all, asrock just wants to be perceived like they're actively working on the issue
if they pushed SOC LLC to max on old BIOS versions that might have done it but i can't imagine why they would do that in the first place

How many case fans does one need? I have places for 6.

>>106412636
7 is the bare minimum for fire safety, you're gonna have to replace that case or keep an extinguisher at your desk.

>>106412622
yep.
AMD feels like the motherboard vendors did them a solid by supporting AM4, even though the early 300 boards were shit. B450/X470 were better and the 500 boards were meant to be Zen3 exclusive as a way of AMD thanking the vendors.
naturally that went down like shit so AMD said "fine, 400 series can too but 300 series never"
then AMD reneged on that because Alder Lake was good and Zen4 was late.
so now AMD is firmly on top and is still acting like they owe the vendors when they really should be making demands of the vendors to stop fucking up, instead of passive aggressively locking it down through AGESA.

>>106412636
as many as you feel you need, to keep the air moving out of your case efficiently when its running hot. Also as many as required to make it look even-handed and balanced.

I thought VRMs used to only supply power to cpus
now I see some 12+2+2 configurations
what are those other parts for?
also some motherboards skip heatsink on them

>>106412751
ram and igpu

>>106411877
>5080 since they're MSRP now,
where

>>106412206
It will never be fixed
ryzen master is a mess
allowing bios changes in windows will always be beyond retarded

how to kill a motherboard
go into bios
set everything to "auto"
glhf

>>106412636
The first three fans are the most impactful for an airflow-optimized case (cases with front panel intake, 3x front intake, or 2x front intake + 1 rear exhaust).
There are usually diminishing returns after that.

>>106412636
All you "need" is just one exhaust fan and negative pressure will take care of temps for you

Nvidia Q2 dropped

Gaming beats is last record breaking quarter with a new record breaking quarter.
They also stated that the 5060 is the fastest and bestselling 60 class card in their history.

I've boughted an Intel Arc B580

>>106413006
>+49%
insane lmao
can't complain about the fucking prices when this happens

>>106410315
>>106410374
>>106410407
Only for games, and only in some games
Otherwise it mogs on every metric

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/573834/geforce-grd-58115-feedback-thread-released-82825/

>32 drivers released this year alone
lmao

>>106412981
>negative air pressure
And an air compressor for the dust magnet you'll be creating

>>106411877
you use the cable that comes with the gpu if you don't want to burn your pc down

there are no budget gpus with 16 gb of vram

>>106413360
best you can hope for is a 9060 XT 16GB at MSRP

I willingly bought an Asus product
I feel so incredibly dirty

>>106413416
I was looking at that too. Does it work fine at least?

>>106413383
the only reason to buy gpu with vram as the priority would be local LLM use, and you wouldnt buy amd for that
so idk what that guy is on about
18gb 5070 super should be fine for most, or 24gb 5070 ti super for slightly larger models.

>>106408021
Is it popular to pretend that the 9070XT doesn’t have any advantages over the 5070ti? It’s got 20% higher 1% lows than the 5070ti on average and is even beating the 5080 at all but 4k in the new battlefield. It’s just better card for the most part if you’re only gaming.

>>106413440
Don't have it yet. But I'm sure they can't fuck up something so simple.

Not sure even why Asus makes these things when you can count on one hand the mobos that work with it with none of those being regular desktop boards.

>>106411547
>>106411734
F models still feel like a scam.

>>106413465
>It’s got 20% higher 1% lows than the 5070ti on average
That isn't true even against a regular 5070.

>new battlefield
Unfinished product atm.

Are thermalright fans supposed to be loud?
I have a Assassin X 120 SE that constantly gives a buzzing noise.
I've tried tightening the screws and attaching the fan in a different orientation but it made no difference.

>>106413451
I've started to see games utilize 12GB+ of VRAM at even 1440p

>>106413596
5070ti has lower 1% lows than the 5070

How are these people getting 20k+ cores in the timespy cpu test and I'm getting like 17k with the same exact hardware?

9070XT = $720, 5070ti = $920
can't justify paying $200 more on the 5070ti, maybe on the super version because I do have some productivity uses and the $200 difference is more justifiable there

>>106413610
Allocation =/= Utilization.
The VRAM amount that a Radeon GPU needs to allocate =/= the amount needed for GeForce cards.
Obvious performance degradation & game crashes are signs that 12GB VRAM buffer isn't enough, and these only happen on games where the 4070, 5070, or equivalent GPUs are too weak to render the scene at above 60 fps with DLSS.

>>106413615
Just your daily Radeon retard's cope.

>>106413673
I only believe gamegpu charts

>>106413610
In indy and doom the maxed textures are placebo, you're just eating more vram for no visual difference.

>>106413707
>no watermark
Why post a fabricated chart

>>106413692
Their benchmarks also show the 5070 Ti has higher 1% lows than the 5070.

>>106413487
Oh yeah, I guess it would only work in the top pcie slot, where your GPU sits huh

>>106413623
Because they manually tuned the memory & CPU.

>>106412013
>Unfortunately that’s not how it works
Anon… that is literally how it works when you use a virtualized mouse+kb driver (eg synergy+ a decade ago).
There is an extra step of touching a config file but there is no ssh involved. Your mouse (and things like copy-paste) just works across win32 on one monitor and x11 on the other, as if they were the same machine.

>>106413712
https://en.gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/half-life-2-rtx-test-gpu-cpu

>>106413759
What can I possibly do with the CPU outside of PBO + undervolting? I thought this is what most people do

>>106413797
My bad I misunderstood what he said.

https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-teases-amd-b850-nitro-motherboard-launch-to-global-market
>We covered Sapphire NITRO motherboards for Ryzen CPUs for some time, but always had to note that their availability was limited to certain regions, mostly China. It now looks like we may no longer need such disclaimers. Sapphire has started teasing new AMD motherboards set to launch soon, and some retailers have already confirmed this.

SAPPHIRE WON

THANK YOU SAPPHIRE

>>106413821
I'm blackpilled that no new mobo vendors will really be allowed to thrive as it's basically a cartel.
Maybe sapphire can do something being based in Hong Kong

>>106413801
It's not enough to extract maximum performance out of the chip; manual static OC is recommended to get the best possible score.
You also need to OC the memory because 3DMark's CPU score scales with your system's DRAM performance.
Pic shows the world's best 9700X Time Spy CPU score. I picked this chip because higher-end ones like 9800X3D attract XOCers with LN2 cooling.

When you want the best personal record for 3DMark benchmarks, you want the CPU to be constantly running at the highest possible effective boost clock (flat CPU boost line in performance monitoring section).
When you compare other people's 3DMark records, pay attention to average clock frequency & average temp.

>>106413416
>I willingly bought an Asus product
I have three Asus monitors. I like them.

Which monitor is better? TM32QHD165VA
>197$
>31.5"
>VA
>https://www.twistedminds.co/products/twisted-minds-32inch-flat-qhd-165hz-va-od-4ms-mprt-1ms-hdr-function-hdmi2-1-2-gaming-monitor-tm32qhd165va
Gamepower Sonic T80:
>165.62$
>27"
>HDR400
>Fast IPS
>https://gamepowerpc.com/monitor/sonic-t80#specs
main monitor, upgrading from BenQ TN GL2460

>>106407428 (OP)
What kind of case is the one that OP has? or is it some kind of third party external protection for cats?
I really need one that stops my cat from turning off my pc

>>106414146
>TM32QHD165VA
>1440p 32" monitor
Bad.

The T80 IPS monitor is the better option, don't bother using HDR though.
>Why not?
If your phone has an OLED display, compare the HDR content image quality of that phone screen vs the IPS monitor's with HDR enabled.

watched some video on prebuilts that market looks so crazy
you've got intel 14th gen and arrow lake being sold at the same time competing?? Amd the few there are shove the 8700G into them? And they all have 5060s or want an extra $500 for a 5070 one. There was maybe one with a 9000 series AMD and a 9070 XT and it cost like $3500. A surprising amount did seem to have the 5060TI 16GB tho

what windows build version number do you guys run?

I installed a new 1660 gpu and 620w PSU on my thinkcenter but the pc doesn't display anything when the dp cable is connected to the monitor. It works when it is connected to the motherboard. The fans of the gpu are working properly and I already reseatted the gpu.
I'm out of ideas guys.
Some guy online told me to pull the CMOS battery out. Is it a good idea?
I would really appreciate if you guys could help me out.

Day2 FAFO'ing with the G80SD

recap of yesterdays adventures and more
>can't connect laptop with USB-C -> DP cable, as such can't test 4k240 over DP
>seem to not have any eye strain yet so far, compared to other glossy qd with same panel tested before

>can't run game motion plus meme shit with pc input even though I am in 60hz mode should be a fix in osd for it
>no pixel refresh notifications or nags quite yet
>seem to have 0 dead or stuck pixels, which would be my 2nd 32" 4k 240hz panel with literally no dead pixels

>considered going and getting a DP male -> USB-C converter and trying if it works with the standard dp cable, might try that tomorrow

>again 32" is not not that large on a desk, would maybe consider if there really is a point to 27", considering you can literally use unscaled 4k 32" quite easily (redacted my opinion on this, kind of maybe slightly)

>still feel monitors lack many picture setting adjustments, especially dark areas and gamma related shit, "black eq/increase dark areas shit" ok 3-5 points that almost don't move that insane, but I am used to a cranked to the bottom gamma IPS

>motivates me more to buy a 55" S95F since I kinda like this if anything, but wondering if 55" might actually be retarded

>almost always wish the panel is brighter always but settings that increase brightness almost always fuck something up idk

>tested HDR in ER and increasing brightness slider in this game does not blow out detail, it did some how on older monitor in hdr on pretty much all settings, even with full windows HDR calibration, what the fuck is that?
>on old qdoled monitor could see almost all the black boxes on lagom lcd test, but on Samsung can't see fucking none of them except the last, only increasing black levels in osd shows some more, should not that mean that it's worse calibrated? very strange

>matte coat almost glossy at an angle

what more to say, to be continued

>>106412692
>>106412728
>>106412936
>>106412981
>>106413166
I did it, anons! Are you proud of me?

>assemble everything
>doesn't turn on
>check power connectors
>everything fine
>change one 4-pin CPU for the other (they're exactly the same)
>start to doom that I broke something
>mfw my clumsy ass somehow switched UPS off with my toe

>>106414608
Grats n hf.

I'm in the market for a new monitor and trying to figure out resolution between 1440p or 4k.
I got a 4070 Super Ti. I play games mostly, including fighting games so I want very low response, but I also watch some movies here. Am I supposed to go a lower 1440p for high settings andgreat refresh rate, or 4k with lower settings and good refresh rate?

Also is OLED still a meme?

>>106414768
You're supposed to get gaming monitor and a good TV.

>>106414768
at a certain distance the difference between 1440p and 4k becomes insignificant. OLED is fine for exclusive TV (with no static logos) and movies but for anything with static elements like regular PC usage or gaming I wouldn't get one.

>>106414768
>fighting games
literally locked at 60fps usually no? so 4k

>1440p or 4k.
unless you want 500hz and play esport fps there is no point, looks bad compared to 4k

>Also is OLED still a meme?
only if you buy a bad firmware monitor which is annoying or you run into the few classical problems like blackscreen flicker that might be to nv, windos driver or software or hardware or dsc
which also existed on lcds before but I digress

or you can get a 4k 55"+ oled tv for the best quality and brightness if gonna play at 60-165hz and have the distance

>>106414793
>at a certain distance the difference between 1440p and 4k becomes insignificant.
the less you see, the more you save

>15x hopeful stakes and tenno sho sashes off from 5* golshi
Uh oh.

>>106413800
Ah yes, russian retards, 100% trustworthy

Jewfus is shilling the 14600k live right now, considering how cheap it is
is it the current based cpu?
not even recommended on OP with the current sales

>>106415235
yeah it's based
reddit is scared of 14th gen now so you can pick them up for cheap
very good upgrade if you're on AM4 for example

>>106415235
It's very cheap, it performs well in modern games and not actually that hot after minor undervolting and setting PLs.

>>106414196
because of
>VA
or
>32"
?
Also, keep seeing the
>Samsung Odyssey G5 LC32G55TQWRXUF
as a recommendation for example, does the gook solve these problems?

I can't wait until late 2026 to build a PC
It's just too far

based? based on what
also not being retarded is redditnigger behaviour now?

>>106415391
I'm going to update to Bartlett Lake and Z790 + DDR5 this year then wait 7-8 years and buy whatever NPU from Intel/AMD/Nvidia/Valve would let me play most games into senility.

>>106415373
NTA but I just bought the 27 inch G5 G50D 1440p IPS and it's pretty damn awesome for 200 euro. The stand is a fucking transformer, it can do anything. The only downside is that it's way too "deep" and takes a lot of space on my shallow desk.

Any ATX cases with either maximum height of 375mm or depth of 350mm?

Don't have much space...

>>106415485
>227$
Would it be fine if i just bought the Sonic T80?

Any reason not to get the 16GB Palit GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Infinity for 439€? Radeon cards are not an option due to ridiculous energy prices here and I don't want to spend more than 500 for a graphics card

>>106407847
it unironically is. Why is the board full of luddites?

AI upscaling is magical and is the only way to get out of the constraint of moore's law which has failed.

>>106415517
There is cheap chink case made for Turkish market, Zeiron Montreal Mesh RGB. I've assembled 2nd ATX system in it and it fits 315mm GPUs. The quality of metal is as expected, but paint is fine and internals are reasonably thought out. Has gay 2-wire RGB fans that need to be replaced though. Also not sure what's it availability outside of Turkey & Balkans.

I have also bought it to fit into coffee table >>106414608 because there are precious few compact ATX alternatives even on Amazon.

>Case Dimensions (Body)
>Height: 364 mm
>Width: 185 mm
>Depth: 425 mm

>>106415610
>Any reason not to get the 16GB Palit GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Infinity for 439€?
Yes, the coming release of Supers.

>>106407428 (OP)
I wanna know if my 750w psu (SeaSonic GX-750) can handle a 3080ti upgrade with my current rig but all these "psu calculators" online give different results from 550w all the way to 1000w. can my psu handle the 3080ti /g/ents? I'm kinda worried since its the first time I'm pushing a psu to the limit.

>core i7 12700
>4*16GB RAM
>2*m.2 SSD, 1 SATA SSD and 1 HDD
>4 fans in case they make a difference

>>106415654
All it's done has made game devs target a lower resolution for their performance budgets.

>>106415699
Should be fine. The GX has the fixed OCP and Ampere got driver updates to curb the transients.

>>106415699
It's a good PSU, you should be fine

>>106415670
>the coming release of Supers
Won't they be like 620€+? At least that's what would make sense to me. When will they be available anyway?

>>106415747
They would, but 5060 Ti would get cheaper.
>when
Q4 this year, I guess.

>>106407428 (OP)
i run a sex shop, anal only. pc built to track customers and insert promotions?

>>106415770
macbook pro