Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:07:10 AM
No.106407715
>>106413747
/twg/ - Tech Workers General
>Tech News & Industry Insights
The Register -
https://www.theregister.com/
TechCrunch -
https://techcrunch.com/
Hacker News -
https://news.ycombinator.com/
Fudzilla -
https://fudzilla.com/news
ZDNet -
https://www.zdnet.com
>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending -
https://github.com/trending
DevDocs -
https://devdocs.io
JavaScript, CSS, HTML sandbox -
https://jsfiddle.net
MDN Web Docs -
https://developer.mozilla.org
Stack Overflow Blog -
https://stackoverflow.blog
The Missing Semester of Your CS Education -
https://missing.csail.mit.edu
>IT Operations & Infrastructure
AWS Service Health Dashboard -
https://status.aws.amazon.com
Cloudflare System Status -
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com
DownDetector -
https://downdetector.com
Microsoft Azure Status -
https://status.azure.com
Microsoft Office 365 Status -
https://portal.office.com/servicestatus
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>>106398185
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:13:24 AM
No.106407770
>>106407780
>>106408903
Yoga is fine i did that alot for after martial arts to work on ballance.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:15:04 AM
No.106407780
>>106407795
>>106408856
>>106407770
did you try this one?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:16:25 AM
No.106407795
>>106407842
>>106407780
The fuck is that supposed to do? Sounds like a nightmare revolved around self suffication.
>>106407795
read up on it
>Through the performance of Kechari Mudra, touching the tip of the tongue to the uvula, or "little tongue," (or placing it in the nasal cavity behind the uvula), that divine life-current draws the prana from the senses into the spine and directs it up through the chakras to Vaishvanara (Universal Spirit), uniting the consciousness with spirit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khecar%C4%AB_mudr%C4%81
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:25:02 AM
No.106407866
>>106407842
Oh right i forgot its some indian cope that they have to perform a ritual since they have no inner monologue to deal with the pain of silence.
I do yoga purely for the balancing benefits you get from holding positions.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:39:39 AM
No.106407976
>>106407612
some science fiction would be nice
technology isn't fun anymore
games aren't fun anymore
anime isn't fun anymore
4chan is dying, irc has been dead for some time
you can't even make internet friends anymore, social media has destroyed the last traces of the old web
we didn't know how good we had it bros, we lived through the golden years of computing (and of civilization in general) and didn't even know it
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:04:41 AM
No.106408115
>>106408136
>>106408106
Unless you were an adult in the 80's you only saw the tail end of the ride. Nothing is getting better. I feel like nothing i am doing is going towards anything good.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:07:58 AM
No.106408136
>>106409040
>>106408115
you're right. i wasn't around for those days, but it's crazy how much worse things have become in just the last 10-15 years alone.
i don't even know what to look forward to outside of work
Today for lunch at the Microsoft cafeteria I had the chicken pad thai, and it was... pretty good... nothing special. Decent enough for cafeteria-tier pad thai, but I've had much better at restaurants.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:45:59 AM
No.106408396
>>106408106
stop whining every day
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:49:30 AM
No.106408424
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:16:29 AM
No.106408577
>>106408321
Best poster on this general. Please keep us updated on this
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:17:14 AM
No.106408581
learn a trade
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:24:36 AM
No.106408621
>>106408718
gm wfh chads
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:38:58 AM
No.106408709
Anybody planning moves during the winter season?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:39:50 AM
No.106408718
>>106408621
gm office mega chads
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:50:15 AM
No.106408778
>>106408876
>>106408321
is Microshit still full of jeets now? Every post I read about them is how shit they are now and the jobs are too taxing for how much you get paid.
It's widely known Microshit pays very bad compared to their peers.
Anyways, any other ideas for jobs that don't have jeets other than Defense/govt? money doesn't mean much if the job is easy and I am getting very lazy in my older age, just a chill job with zero jeets.
Skills/etc. doesn't matter, worked as a SE lead for a decade now at this point, just want a chill job.
Am seriously considering joining ICE so I can raid foreigners.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:50:23 AM
No.106408780
>>106408797
Got accepted to UT Austin and GT's online MSCS programs. Not sure which one to pick, although I'm leaning towards Texas.
I don't expect immediate rewards, but I'm hoping that job hopping now and finishing up the degree in 2-3 years will put me in a better position career wise. No matter what I do, I think I need to leave this company in the next year. The advancement pipeline is clogged, and it's hybrid and I realized that aspects of the small town life are making me miserable.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:52:18 AM
No.106408788
>>106408106
>civilization was only good when I personally peaked, its so over, civilization is done billions must die because i dont have le fruiteger aeron
yes, absolutely, now kill yourself
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:53:51 AM
No.106408797
>>106408832
>>106408780
this is probably not what you want to hear, but companies are absolutely shitting on MS peeps right now, a Bachelor's might give you more opportunities than having both, not even joking.
It might have been good to stand out in 2020-2023 but job.market is FUCKED.
Also the GT program is much better.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:55:38 AM
No.106408806
Also you are competing with jeets that infiltrate all of tech and steal your jobs, your race is being slowly removed from all the good jobs, jeets need to be deported asap.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:01:21 AM
No.106408832
>>106408843
>>106408797
I have a bachelors, but it's from a mediocre state flagship. I'm trying to mulligan and maybe get something from access to the recruiting mailing lists. I just noticed that all the engineering and software managers at my current job have Masters from places like Virginia Tech.
And having visited them, I can see myself living in Austin or to a lesser extent Atlanta. It's not like my current locale where jobs are my current company, woefully underpaid frontend contract work for small businesses, and dead ends like Oracle Apex for some government contract.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:03:59 AM
No.106408843
>>106408866
>>106408832
Just do it online so you can still make money while going to college. Time missed making money is not great for retirement or other investment options. Any kid that could swing full time job and full time college online is a winner.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:07:01 AM
No.106408856
>>106407780
>>106407842
maybe they were onto something, isnt this basically "mewing" like zoomers are obsessed with
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:08:22 AM
No.106408866
>>106408843
That's my plan, taking 1-2 courses a semester while working full time. Regardless, I need to job hunt; it's not worth rotting in my current role because I'm taking classes.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:09:37 AM
No.106408876
>>106409082
>>106408778
Yeah it's basically majority Asian now, either Pajeets or east Asian... though surprisingly my team is majority white men. One is a European immigrant though. As for the work, it's fine. I don't feel especially pressured or anything. Yes, the pay is lower than the other companies, but honestly I make more than I can spend anyway, and I'll probably end up dead (kms) long before I retire anyway, so my dumbass siblings will get whatever I have saved up.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:16:42 AM
No.106408903
>>106407770
Nah, yoga is too pagan.
I will do normal, western, scientifically backed stretching. Then pray and meditate in my own time. All the benefits with none of the demon worship.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:24:44 AM
No.106408955
when do we start killing
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:38:55 AM
No.106409040
>>106409051
>>106408136
Sad to think that in 10 years we might be saying the same thing about 2025. Remember to appreciate all the good things in your life, anons.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:41:24 AM
No.106409051
>>106409040
>all the good things in your life
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:48:05 AM
No.106409082
>>106409161
>>106412126
>>106408106
>we lived through the golden years of computing (and of civilization in general)
Golden age of civilization was 1945-2001
It is crazy how badly the economy broke in 2008 and it never truly recovered
>>106408876
Are you the anon in his late 30s who literally has nothing going on in his life besides work or is that another anon
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:01:20 AM
No.106409161
>>106409082
>It is crazy how badly the economy broke in 2008 and it never truly recovered
the economy "broke" in 2008 because it was already fucked up and unsustainable. thankfully, techbros have made the situation even worse
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:19:03 AM
No.106409278
>>106409855
Last thread there was a discussion on pointing stories, made me think about my job and how we do it.
We do fibonacci based on complexity. My problem is that there doesnt seem to be any real weight to them. We just kinda do it for ritual sake.
We have a 3 point story a couple of guys have been working on for 3 weeks now. Literally nothing happens. They chat all day doing nothing and when they do work they are morons about it.
Granted I guess I shouldn't even care as this is all a management problem, but id hate for this project to get canned and moved onto something potentially worse.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:01:16 AM
No.106409549
>>106409872
>>106412126
>>106408321
No idea how you are not disgusted by eating in a cafeteria. A minimum wage worker touching my food? Almost guaranteed an shitdian or other blight who definitely did not wash hands after scratching his asshole, then sneezed at the food with mucus. I don't even go to actual restaurants anymore, cook 100% of my food.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:04:37 AM
No.106409855
>>106411045
>>106409278
sounds pretty normal
also, if you are buying into the bs you are still a junior. You should be aiming for working on the most straightforward and ez tasks. Break them down as many times as you can and give them as high as a score as you can get away. If someone interferes just rebut
>what about quality? What about testing?
etc. the reverse goes for the tasks of your peers. Your cadence should be the baker's dozen of your peers, but you should still underdeliver as much as possible.
Point is, you are not supposed to give accurate estimates, you are supposed to maximize comfy and/or elevate your status as much as possible.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:06:47 AM
No.106409872
>>106410070
>>106409549
do you grow your own food? who you think handles your grocery before you buy it. I agree with your point, but the alternative is not much better imo
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:27:58 AM
No.106409967
>it's a "proprietary editor doesn't support HOME or END keys or CTRL+arrow combinations" episode
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:29:29 AM
No.106409977
make it end
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:47:39 AM
No.106410070
>>106409872
Fruits and vegetables can be washed. Half-cooked things like pasta are handled in automated environments that in EU must follow strict sanitary requirements, which means they sterilize the raw ingredients they use too.
Ofc you cannot cover ALL the bases, but I'd rather try and fail than do nothing and fail by default.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:12:12 AM
No.106410162
>>106410175
I will NOT develop a crush on my cute coworker I will not I will not I will not I will not
watching the team fall apart in real time is quite something
>job search
yikes. i don't want to move either. how long would you guys tap into your savings if you didn't find anything?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:14:01 AM
No.106410171
>>106410187
Might apply for some jobs today, your thoughts on this?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:14:50 AM
No.106410175
>>106410196
>>106410162
Yep just cuck yourself so the manager can get a piece of it. Then she can settle down with you after her second kid and 3rd divorce.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:18:58 AM
No.106410187
>>106410432
>>106410171
Good fucking luck.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:19:28 AM
No.106410190
>>106412450
>>106410170
>how long would you guys tap into your savings if you didn't find anything?
Until I run out? What kind of a question is that?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:21:06 AM
No.106410196
>>106410208
>>106410175
>Cuck fantasy
I'm literally engaged to someone not work related
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:21:50 AM
No.106410203
>>106410170
You worded it wrong. How long should you be prepared to survive in this job market without a job. The original answer was always 6 months of all expenses +400$ extra each month to cover random shit/training costs or whatever the fuck.
Ideally you need about 18 months. Most people without jobs are looking at 8 months or so before they find a job in any field. Way worse then the less than 2 months we saw during covid when everyone was playing musical chairs including companies moving HQ's around locations.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:22:51 AM
No.106410208
>>106410196
Ask your wife for a harem and declare yourself a sect of the amish then live in the woods anon.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:48:50 AM
No.106410346
Sometimes I'm sad
Then I remember
Lots of days I get paid a good amount of money for moving a box on a screen
Meanwhile someone else is getting paid a fraction of what I make
To move dozens of boxes irl in a stinky warehouse
It's ok
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:50:15 AM
No.106410350
>>106411297
>>106414637
>>106407181
roughly yeah, although those lists are skewed by the fact that you looked up jobs lost and jobs openings. What I meant is that when the world stood still for a hot minute and nobody was working/yet working remotely, there were a few sectors where work _couldn't_ stop (first responds, doctors, drivers, etc.). Those are the non-bullshit jobs.
How the fuck do I get a job or even an internship if nobody's hiring with zero work experience and my city doesn't have the jobs at all anyway? How do I move to a city that has the jobs when the rent there is so expensive and I don't have a job there yet?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:06:04 AM
No.106410420
>>106410559
>>106410387
If you want to believe your situation is hopeless so that you'll feel justified in not even trying, that's your choice and it's a free country so you can choose to believe that if you'd like. Now if you truly can't figure out how to make something of yourself, that's fine, you're just not cut out for this field, many such cases, there are all sorts of other jobs out there, good luck in whatever you decide to pursue instead
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:09:04 AM
No.106410432
>>106410187
I think I need it. I bookmarked a job the other day and I opened the page up a couple hours ago, planning to apply. Then I refreshed it and it now says the job has been filled. Even though they said they were open for applications until midnight tonight.
Fuck my life.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:25:25 AM
No.106410519
>>106408106
I've come to accept that this is hell.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:29:45 AM
No.106410542
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:33:40 AM
No.106410557
>>106408106
theyre all on chan aligned cords.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:34:27 AM
No.106410559
>>106410420
What? I don't even live in the US
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:36:36 AM
No.106410565
>>106410625
>>106410387
Do what people on the job does. Try to mimic them as best as possible and use their tools. Create your own business / LLC and list yourself as a consultant / tech worker / ceo / w/e and perform that job.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:51:22 AM
No.106410625
>>106410565
Donβt forget the most important skill. Always fake it til you make it.. always try to take charge, it literally doesnβt matter if youβre not qualified or done 100hours training, people are retarded and love confidence. If someone says something informative just counter with your best approximation and act like you know just as well or better, you can be even more confident about it if itβs a matter of perspective. If you get an interview especially do not let them scare you at all with large talk, thereβs no reason to ever not be confident.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:53:36 AM
No.106410639
>>106412505
When did you realise defence space was best space to work
>no jeets because citizenship and security clearances required, if there are jeets at least they can speak english well
>no ai faggotry because defence doesn't want to have their highly classified data used to train models and go into the library of resources that the general public can access
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:54:12 AM
No.106410642
>>106410665
>>106414075
If nobody likes corporate jargon and shit why does everyone use it
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 11:58:27 AM
No.106410665
>>106410642
Its just shitting out math formulas to make themselves sound smarter to consumers they have to sell a product towards.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:03:13 PM
No.106410684
>>106410387
Thats the thing anon
You don't
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:28:00 PM
No.106410805
>>106410819
>We're actually a bring-your-own-device company.
Maybe you should put that on your fucking job listing. Don't tell me that you're gonna force me to install monitoring shit on my personal computers too.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:30:02 PM
No.106410819
>>106410867
>>106410805
Do they do tls inspection and all that with byod ?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:36:24 PM
No.106410867
>>106410882
>>106410819
I'd hope that companies don't do TLS inspection at all, even on company devices. But I wouldn't be surprised if they require some sort of security shit installed on private devices under a BYOD policy. Push the costs of the devices to the employees but don't cede any control of the devices.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:38:43 PM
No.106410882
>>106410893
>>106410867
They do, just look into the vpn you run
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:40:07 PM
No.106410893
>>106410882
Doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:41:27 PM
No.106410902
>>106411020
>>106413662
>indians constantly coming in late and leaving early
>like by hours, not minutes
>I'm one of the few people that even shows up on time since they set specific hours for everyone
>indian manager brings me into office
>starts yelling at me because my coffee break conversations "are not work related"
>says I need to give him weekly status updates on what work I've done
>nothing for the indians who aren't even putting 8 hours in
They're definitely planning to fire me and keep the indians
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 12:59:25 PM
No.106411020
>>106410902
Look here, whitey thinks he can keep his job!
>>106409855
for a good year and a half i was convinced that agile was primarily a means for employers to squeeze every last drop of efficiency from employees and easily fire/move entire teams based on demand
and while it may still be its primary purpose as a process/way of working, us engineers can use it to maximize the time spent not working but still looking like we do
all for the sake of the process
lmao what a time to be alive
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:05:40 PM
No.106411066
>>106411045
this is the main purpose of agile and any other retarded corpo-approved process
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:09:07 PM
No.106411089
>>106411184
Can two companies agree on what βAgileβ means beyond βshipping more than once a yearβ?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:25:39 PM
No.106411184
>>106411089
>Agile
That would require them to actually get the certifications for the managers when most of them only took a single college class over management frameworks, which makes it good enough to boss people around with limited understanding as to why things are done a certain way.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:39:02 PM
No.106411297
>>106414637
>>106410350
office jobs are bullshit, period
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:42:59 PM
No.106411322
why would someone put "knowing pagerduty, servicenow" and that kind of shit as a requirement for a job? feels like I should consider it a red flag in itself
how much could it possibly take for you to explain how they work to a new employee? hell there's a free tier for pagerduty I could play around with it and pretend I have used it at a previous job
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:47:42 PM
No.106411349
>>106411045
>all for the sake of the process
it is amazing if you think about what the manifesto says. Yet another thing MBAs managed to hijack and fubar. Imagine taking in 4 simple sentences and the interpretation that come out on the other end is scrum aggrevated by atlassian products
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:54:54 PM
No.106411399
>Go to the gas station to pick up snacks.
What's good fr fr bussin.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 2:07:43 PM
No.106411521
>>106411678
>>106412059
Been living on 5h of sleep for almost 2 years
Crazy what the human body gets used to
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 2:24:35 PM
No.106411678
>>106412061
>>106412067
>>106411521
Thats about the minimum a person can handle. The full 8 hours of sleep is meme for alot of people. I used to sleep 9 as a kid, then 7 and now 6 hours.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:09:13 PM
No.106412059
>>106414104
>>106414104
>>106411521
depends, if you get 5 consecutive hours that is much better than most parents experience
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:09:23 PM
No.106412061
>>106411678
i think you just got used to the headache and fog desu
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:10:03 PM
No.106412067
>>106411678
When you sleep for "8 hours" you're really only asleep for 7
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:15:47 PM
No.106412126
>>106409082
>Are you the anon
Yeah that's probably me
>>106409549
I hate cooking, it's worth the risk
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:36:58 PM
No.106412285
>>106408106
Unironically go touch grass, you sound like you lack Vitamin D3 which is causing you depression and anhedonia
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:41:26 PM
No.106412322
Glowies are trying to poach me for 70k euro a year. Am i GMI?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 3:59:48 PM
No.106412450
>>106410190
Thinking asking the alternative of getting some job not even paying half of what they need.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:01:18 PM
No.106412465
>>106410387
Do what migrants discovered long ago. Live in a shoe box doing degrading jobs until you finally find something you want.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:05:56 PM
No.106412505
>>106412707
>>106410639
Day 1.
> Companies fight tooth and nail for you
> Shit tons of openings so easy to start something more interesting if get tired
> Viewed as genius because you give a shit about your work and read what private sector does.
> no immigrants and half the US pop exiled themselves due to drugs or crime
The lower compensations pays itself over 10x when I read the humiliation rituals /g/ fuckers have to go through daily for a job.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:10:28 PM
No.106412534
>>106412689
good morning
currently on a meeting where the new guy just sudo rm -r / like it's a comedy skit
"why does the new guy has sudo access", you ask?
very, very good question my friend
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:26:31 PM
No.106412689
>>106412722
>>106412534
Why wouldn't he have sudo access on his personal machine?
Unless this is a server, in which case: do you not have devops?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:28:46 PM
No.106412707
>>106412757
>>106412505
can you work remotely 100% of the time? if not go fuck yourself you glowie
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:29:49 PM
No.106412719
>>106412789
Got a second interview this monday for a second job. I sent them my resume where it says I'm employed, what should answer if they ask me my actual job? the topic didn't came up at the first interview and its supposer to be a full time position
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:29:58 PM
No.106412722
>>106412689
>do you not have devops?
you dont understand, time dedicated to setting up proper devops is time I'm not developing new bloat features, so it's a waste of time
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:34:07 PM
No.106412757
>>106412784
>>106412707
Yea you can actually depending on the spot. Had 3 remote spots in past few years.
Now shouldn't you get back to fixing up leet code git projects for your next interview? You're kidding yourself if you think SAAAR isn't going to fire you for taking a piss break and using the chance to import his Jeet friends in your place.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:37:20 PM
No.106412784
>>106412801
>>106413055
>>106412757
>he assumes everyone is an ameritard having to deal with jeets and no workers rights
lol, lmao even
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:38:14 PM
No.106412789
>>106412719
tell them you will give in your notice once you have signed a contract with them, then don't
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:39:48 PM
No.106412801
>>106412812
>>106412818
>>106412784
>Why is this guy on American web site in topic focused around Americans talking about American issues?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:40:46 PM
No.106412812
>>106412801
anime website owned by a japanese
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 4:41:49 PM
No.106412818
>>106412801
it is always incredible how fucking stupid you americans are
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:10:59 PM
No.106413055
>>106413123
>>106412784
Okay, but haven't a bunch of Britbong universities transitioned into diploma mills for jeets to commit visa fraud? The menace seems to be universal.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:17:58 PM
No.106413123
>>106413055
Jeets owned them from day 1 when they showed bongs can't cook for shit.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:18:53 PM
No.106413134
>be me
>oversleep
>miss weekly meeting with the CEO
>wake up, check messages
>If you're going to skip the meeting, tell me before I waste my time >:(
>"sorry boss, getting over covid and overslept"
>"oh no poor baby :( take all the time you need"
easy as
How can I make it clear to my software engineer superiors that trying to force us data scientists to work with their own scrum method (divvying up little predetermined work pieces that an engineer can implement) is a fundamentally retarded endeavor since data science (exploring unknown scopes all day every day) doesn't lend itself to that "agile" way of working at all?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:34:08 PM
No.106413284
>>106413254
Much of software engineering is the same way, it just doesn't fit
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 5:54:25 PM
No.106413489
>>106413254
You cannot make it clear, no actual job in tech actually fits with the ideas of scrum, it is just used to infatilize and control teams so that middle managers and agile evangelist have a reason to get a paycheck.
Either deal with it or switch career
>the new "proof" that AI is causing young CS unemployment that is causing so much of a fuss
>trend starts before ChatGPT launch
>half the drop was before start of 2024
>the post-2024 decline has the 41-49 age range following a similar trend to the 22-25
>graph starts in 2021 in the middle of pandemic at peak zirp
Many such cases
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:16:32 PM
No.106413634
>>106413522
this lines up with my anecdotal experiences in the past few years. i just got back from meeting my new team after org restructure. the average age I would guess is about 39 which is just crazy to me. I think we have one 28 year old and everyone else is 35+. I kinna wish we had some juniors
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:20:28 PM
No.106413662
>>106410902
I would unironically start looking into an employment lawyer. They all need to go back
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:28:34 PM
No.106413747
>>106414834
>>106407715 (OP)
>manager vibe coding with AI for 6 weeks >basically just querying databases
>often tells me about issues he's having
>timeouts during queries
>variables not populating
>eventually takes down the prod db
>get curious about what's really going on
>do code review
>AI slop, as one would expect from a nocoder
>misuse of sqlalchemy engine
>misuse of exceptions
>misuse of threadpoolexecutor variable access
>suspect python 3.8 being used in 2025
>.format() for queries
All that and the AI couldn't figure out what was wrong with the code.
What's ironic, and somewhat grotesque is he said, "might as well used AI tools since everyone else is and that's the way things are moving." Yeah, and I'm sure he makes over 20k more than me.
It's been pretty quiet since I submitted the review, bro
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:28:51 PM
No.106413749
>>106413522
>graph not starting @ zero
instadropped
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 6:45:04 PM
No.106413887
>>106413254
can't you, like, tell them exactly that?
or maybe talk to a data science influencer/rockstar and ask them to push against scrum being pushed in your field.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:04:35 PM
No.106414075
>>106410642
because everyone is an impostor trying to sound like they can call out value with customer obsessed spend
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:06:12 PM
No.106414098
>>106411045
the purpose of agile is to let a flakey customer who is constantly changing their minds burn up all the allocated development hours as quickly as possible so that you can move on to a project where the stakeholders are not fucking idiots.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:07:32 PM
No.106414104
>>106414533
>>106412059
>>106412059
fuck parents. they made their choice. tired of hearing this kind of shit excuse from parents.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:09:55 PM
No.106414121
>>106413254
ask a software engineer. your plight is not unique; same shit different job title.
>Our company is BYOD, actually.
>Oh but we do have a remote working budget so that you can buy everything that you feel you need for work, like a laptop, monitors, etc.
>The budget is 1000β¬ per year.
>If you feel that you need a laptop for work, you could get an advance for your second year's budget.
What the absolute fuck? Does this company not realise how this is just one giant red flag?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:48:34 PM
No.106414442
>>106414455
>>106414288
I think this might be a company I interviewed with during corona lol. but IIRC the first year budget was 3k and then fell off to 1k per year
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:50:00 PM
No.106414455
>>106414474
>>106414288
enough retards complain about "locked down corpobooks" that they probably get a lot of excitement about that actually
thoughbeit the real good shit is
>get locked down corpobook
>want peripherals? go dig through the IT bins until you find something you like
>>106414442
corona was a dumb time because companies hadn't gotten used to the idea of actually letting people move equipment around yet. niggas still had laptops with kensington locks woven through the cubicle walls and shit
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:52:37 PM
No.106414474
>>106414517
>>106414455
>enough retards complain about "locked down corpobooks" that they probably get a lot of excitement about that actually
Unless they require you to install some management shit on your personal computer that allows an administrator to remotely wipe your entire PC. No idea if this company does it, but I imagine someone is doing it.
If I were put in charge of company IT security, I might have reservations about our company IP, logins being on the same PC that the employee is using to watch porn and play pirated games.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:57:44 PM
No.106414517
>>106414547
>>106414474
>If I were put in charge of company IT security, I might have reservations about our company IP, logins being on the same PC that the employee is using to watch porn and play pirated games.
sensible, which is why most sanely managed places (at least on the IT end) just hand you a locked down corpo book. but again, most people are NOT sensible and literally do not understand why they can't log in to the bare metal servers from home with nothing but a password over RDP and bitch and moan that they can't get onto pornhub or install steam on their locked down corpobook (usually thinly veiled by the usual complaint of "baww i cant install 'dependencies' for my 'project'" which only betrays their retardation even more)
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 7:59:55 PM
No.106414533
>>106414104
it's not an excuse it is a perspective. Anon did not even specify the reason for lack of sleep, might be a parent as well. I'm just tired of zoomies crying and throwing tantrums if they have to lift a finger and/or not get everything handed on a silver platter
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:00:45 PM
No.106414547
>>106414637
>>106414517
>sensible, which is why most sanely managed places (at least on the IT end) just hand you a locked down corpo book.
It doesn't even have to be locked down. You can just tell employees that the work computer is for work only and they should not use it for any non-work stuff. Most of your employees probably have enough common sense to figure out that they shouldn't install pirated games on it.
At my previous place, we had work computers with full admin rights, but also a device management system that logged installed applications to the IT department. One of the IT guys told me that they had to tell someone off for installing Steam on their work machine, but were otherwise pretty hands off.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:01:03 PM
No.106414549
>>106414723
why the FUCK am i still working and trying to figure out what this dumb analyst meant in his query? i already have my fagman offer signed. I should just do nothing for a month
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:11:20 PM
No.106414637
>>106414655
>>106411297
>>106410350
>hurr durr bullshit jerbs the only REAL jerbs are muh trades muh farms muh low wage physical labor
Fuck out of /g/.
>>106414547
That first paragraph outs you as really, really naive. When this company still did byod, you wouldn't believe how many people had personal shit, porn, talk radio sites on their byod work computers.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:13:23 PM
No.106414655
>>106414637
>When this company still did byod, you wouldn't believe how many people had personal shit, porn, talk radio sites on their byod work computers.
I would believe it. You know why? Because BYOD stands for "bring your OWN device".
What I find unbelievable is that companies doing BYOD don't realise that people use their devices for all kinds of shit that you wouldn't want anywhere near your work stuff.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:14:26 PM
No.106414661
Any game developers here? IMP you guys have the coolest job.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:17:48 PM
No.106414690
>>106414732
>>106414288
Why is this a red flag? I'd gladly build a dedicated work desktop
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:21:34 PM
No.106414723
>>106414862
>>106414549
I feel bad for anyone having to debug, let alone review, stinky data analyst sludge. Pandas, SQL, some python code to glue it together. And it never ends, dozens, if not 100s of these little sludge piles all feeding different data sources. It's a disgusting mess to deal with. Lucky AIs can help explain what the fuck pandas slobber is trying to achieve, but wholly mothers of Hades, there is no exit from the Data Analytics script-swamp. Pic semi related.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:22:08 PM
No.106414732
>>106414784
>>106414690
Because the company is signalling how they're too cheap to buy you a work computer, and if you actually need one, you're not getting any other work equipment for the next 2β3 years.
Is not paying 2β3kβ¬ for a work laptop really that big of a saving that you'd risk developers using some cruddy 2019 MacBook Air for development? Presumably your developers will need to run unit tests, compile code, etc. How little are you paying them by hour? Or are you just expecting them to do unpaid overtime?
Also, if they're cheaping out on this, what else are they cheaping out? And how good can the company IT security be with these practices? Because I'd guess that it's either not good, or you're forcing people to install some draconian shit on their personal computers.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:22:36 PM
No.106414736
>>106414745
>be remote worker Sergio for US company
>need to restore access to a special account
>try call support, 30 min waiting, $1 a minute for US calls
>try email, no other way other than calling
>tell boss, no answer
>tell manager, no answer
>tell account manager, no answer
>two days have passed and i haven't had an answer
what the fuck am I supposed to do in this situation?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:23:52 PM
No.106414745
>>106414736
>what the fuck am I supposed to do in this situation?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:28:55 PM
No.106414779
>>106414864
>>106414896
What's the plan B anons?
If I quit IT wtf should I do? I think if I quit IT I'd either NEET or milk cows or something
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:29:43 PM
No.106414784
>>106414879
>>106414732
>omg oh nooooo a 2019 computer for WORK!!! aieeee
bro you're just using a text editor not simulating what would happen if a plane crashed into the pentagon
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:34:55 PM
No.106414834
>>106413747
this shit sounds like AIDs honestly
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:40:33 PM
No.106414862
>>106415626
>>106414723
this isnt even some retrofit code of some salesforce abomination, my company has analysts literally build new marts in their dogshit sql then hand it off to us to implement into dbt, and I keep saying "give US the requirements" so i dont have to reverse engineer dogshit before implementing it properly, but they dont, so half my time is deciphering bad code, telling the analyst "this doesnt do what you think it does" then implementing it properly
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:40:42 PM
No.106414864
>>106414779
anon, just find an easier, quieter job at a smaller office or something like that
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:42:36 PM
No.106414879
>>106414914
>>106414916
>>106414784
We had like 30k unit tests and running those would take at least 30 minutes on all cores. I don't know what you're doing if core count and speed doesn't matter in your work.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:44:34 PM
No.106414896
>>106414779
Unironically just go do IT support for govt/other public offices, assuming you're not in the US you'd get decent salary, great contracts, and basically no chance in hell of getting fired until retirement
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:46:47 PM
No.106414914
>>106414943
>>106414879
so you're running 16 tests a second? what sort of tests are you actually running?
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:47:08 PM
No.106414916
>>106414987
>>106414879
>running that shit locally
lol
lmao
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:48:07 PM
No.106414928
>>106414937
>>106410170
i'm at a year and a month so far. wife is day trading our savings to make rent
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:48:59 PM
No.106414937
>>106415034
>>106414928
Is she a retail investor? If so, RIP home.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:50:01 PM
No.106414943
>>106414914
making sure CONST_ONE is still equal to 7
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:53:11 PM
No.106414968
>>106415013
>>106415084
>boss sends me a huge copypaste from fucking chatgpt
>"lets go to work on a lot of the stuff listed here"
>me: "why? like 75% of the stuff on this list is literally impossible and is well outside the bounds of reality"
>oh, well upper management is pushing for this stuff
>me: "well, someone needs to tell them none of this is possible, and this would also be like a multi-year long project if it even were possible. Are you going to scope that?"
>no reply
???
How much you wanna bet hes been chat gpt'ing on his meetings with directors and above and just pulling shit out of his ass we can do and promising them it'd be delivered. The shit it was recommending was legitimately nonsensical.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:55:43 PM
No.106414987
>>106414916
Some people on the team clearly were not running anything locally and our CI pipelines were clogged with a billion builds because they didn't do any testing locally.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 8:58:59 PM
No.106415013
>>106415084
>>106414968
post some examples i want a laugh (at either him for being stupid or you for thinking easy things are impossible)
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:00:52 PM
No.106415034
>>106415051
>>106414937
>Is she a retail investor
she's an ex-waitress but i have a nice place picked out down by the cemetery to pitch our tent when the money runs out
anyhow, at least I don't have to deal with all the jeets at ex company anymore and i'm not even looking again until I stop seeing jeet names in my email trying to get me to help them launder hibs
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:02:41 PM
No.106415051
>>106415034
>does not even know what "retail investor" means
>"hibs"
yeah assuming you're not some glowie demoralization shill, you're totally fucked m8. in fact even if you are a glowie demoralization shill, you're getting put on PIP for this blunder
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:06:02 PM
No.106415084
>>106415142
>>106414968
Update: after invalidating everything he recommended, he said we just have to "play the game" because this is what "they" want.
>>106415013
Not gonna paste the convo, but I'm a principal cloud engineer, I work in gcp/azure/etc for a gov related company. What has supposedly been asked for, the technology just simply doesn't exist, his suggestion was to "just use the APIs" if the functionality doesn't exist natively.
I informed him what they want, even if we automate everything via api still isn't going to work, and I asked, specifically, whose ideas these were to which he said he was going to keep it private.
Which is code word for these are his ideas, he tried to get chatgpt to figure it out for him, and hes pissed I told him this shit was dumb as fuck.
AI is unfortunately super behind on understanding anything in regards to cloud stuff, no clue why but its wrong an overwhelming majority of the time when you get into specific, non-theoretical work.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:12:02 PM
No.106415142
>>106415170
>>106415084
ok, try posting one (1) """impossible""" idea
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:15:09 PM
No.106415170
>>106415250
>>106415142
Okay tell me how to modify an interrupt handler strictly through gcp/azure.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:23:39 PM
No.106415250
>>106415420
>>106415432
>>106415170
nigga itβs literally trivial. you just pop open gcp or azure, spin up a vm, and youβre god of interrupts in like 5 minutes. want to swap out an interrupt handler? ssh in, tweak the kernel module or even just override the signal handling in userland if youβre lazy, reboot, done. all βthrough the cloudβ
on azure you can even wrap it in their automation so it redeploys the handler whenever you push to git. gcp has startup scripts where you can preload your handler on boot. itβs basically point-and-click interrupt hacking at this point
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:40:38 PM
No.106415420
>>106415434
>>106415250
Wrong, hardware level interrupts are abstracted by the hypervisor. You can't touch IRQs. You also don't control the host. You also can't control / reprogram the APIC.
Good effort thoughoverbeit
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:42:00 PM
No.106415432
>>106415250
Also signal handling /=/ interrupt handling. They occur on totally different layers.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:42:04 PM
No.106415434
>>106415454
>>106415420
>specify in my vm program that i want to simulate ps/2 keyboard
>press E key
nothin personnel
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:44:16 PM
No.106415454
>>106415434
Yeah, shame we're talking about GCP/azure and not nested virtualization though, huh? No access to ps/2 at all or scancodes.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:44:31 PM
No.106415458
>>106413522
they ran with the AI story to get people to stop enrolling in cs in such high amounts. its a better headline than trying to explain how inflated the market was at 0% interest. it also avoids having to explain that most new grad jobs are going to indians and how much h1b fraud there is in industry, on top of offshoring. even in 2019 40% of jobs were held by immigrants. its possibly over 50% now.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:50:40 PM
No.106415530
>>106415749
we need to start killing programmers
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:52:54 PM
No.106415561
>>106407842
retarded shit for indians
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:57:48 PM
No.106415626
>>106414862
We use dbt too. It's a slog in bog, init?
Pandas ETL tasks are just the cherry on top when more elaborate sludge is required than what dbt can nudge. Then your really bogged down in the slog trying to log a hog with your gob. Eh?
There's gonna be a fuck ton of untangling to do with all these shitty ETL pipelines, dbt or otherwise, in the next 10 years. Would be best to flush it all down the toilet and start over. Like what you do, essentially.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 10:09:48 PM
No.106415749
>>106415530
>we
>twg
Are you a poor digital nomad hater from trv?