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>>106414441
>>106412299
literally such a common issue people recommend blacklisting it

>>106410127
They READ fine, it's the write support that's considered experimental. Nobody has ever had their drive corrupted when mounted read-only as far as I know.

Realistically, if you're going to use a drive long-term on Linux for storage then you might want to look into converting it to BTRFS or ext4.

It's a simple life

>download Debian 13 for my potato laptop
>lxde on gtk3
>hover over icons on bottom panel
>tooltips show up at the top of the screen
>reinstall with lxqt as that is too annoying and there is no solution to fix it
>login into lxqt
>it just throws me back to the login screen every time

fucking hell. stick with xfce /g/ on old computers. why haven't they scrapped lxde yet?

>>106415158
First, figure out what's using too much space (ncdu is great for this). If you're on Mint or some other friendly distribution that tries to nag you to keep updated, you might be accumulating older kernel versions that you don't need any more, see about removing them. Also see if

sudo apt autoclean
sudo apt autoremove


clear up any space for you.

After that especially check on how much space /var is using. Your Flatpaks will be in here if you use Flatpak but otherwise it will mostly be logs. Don't let /var/log grow to more than a couple hundred megs or so, there's really no point in keeping logs around forever. Speaking of Flatpak, if you're the only user on your system then consider uninstalling them all and then reinstalling with --user. That way it's all somewhere within your /home/user and you don't have to do anything fancy (and you'll also automatically clean up any unused shit).

If you find that you can't cut down on the space you're using, the next step is to relocate the files. The simplest way is with bind mounts. I'm assuming that you made this small partition for / and then a much larger separate partition for /home. You can store additional folders within /home and make it look to Linux like they're in the normal place.

Let's say for example that we're going to relocate all of /opt. From a live boot, rsync the files from /opt to /home/opt (as long as you don't already have a user named "opt", lol), then add a line to /etc/fstab:

/home/opt /opt none bind 0 0


This tells Linux that the /home/opt folder is "mounted at" /opt just like a partition would be, alternately you can think of it as similar to a symlink. Reboot the main system and confirm that everything works. If it does, you can go back into live boot and delete the /opt content from the / partition.

>>106415428
Did you reformat all of the partitions when you reinstalled? Maybe some LXDE files that were leftover broke LXQt?

>>106415339
They do not, I tried both modules and files are missing, like I said. I can't just copy if it can't actually see the files.
I can open a windows VM and mount the same drives and view the files properly.

>you might want to look into converting it to BTRFS or ext4.
What I'm trying to do. >>106409903

I've never once seen someone say they recommend using NTFS on linux, but I never seen a specific reason.
So now that I've seen them and went through all this bullshit to find out it's just unusable, there are people here telling me "it just works bro", when the common wisdom is it does not, and has never worked.

I get that some people get off being smug elitists and contrarian here, but it's a little annoying to step in dogshit and have multiple retards go "oh, dogshit? this is gold man" while slupring down handfulls.

>>106415430 (me)
Also yes you CAN relocate the entire / partition to a new partition or drive; you can even back up fucking everything and then wipe the drive and then copy everything where it needs to go on a single partition. But these approaches are trickier and more error-prone, because you need to re-configure the boot system (Linux needs to be able to FIND / in order to finish booting, which is kinda hard if it isn't in the same place that /boot already knows about). Overall the boot process is hard to get your head around and there are a lot of concepts to learn with it.

>>106415148 (OP)
mogged by xue

>Root: encrypted
>Secure Boot: enabled
>TPM2: emulated
>Bootloader: signed
>UKI: generated
Yep, it's secure computing time

>>106415448
>I've never once seen someone say they recommend using NTFS on linux, but I never seen a specific reason.
It literally isn't designed to record UNIX permission information, so everything is 777 unless you umask it when you mount the drive and then everything is still the same as what the umask says, and every file is owned by whoever mounted the drive.

>>106415446
Yes, I did a complete reinstall. I'm not sure why it does it. The journalctl wasn't really providing much info. Maybe lightdm replacing sddm or whatever it uses may have helped. I was too frustrated by that point, though. I fear Wayland will make a lot of older systems unusable.

>>106415502
Hope you're not using the Intel Management Engine.

>>106415533
Of course not!
I'm using AMD PCP

>>106415158
>time-efficient manner
Boot linux from usb, resize partition (since it's /).

>>106415339
>Realistically, if you're going to use a drive long-term on Linux for storage then you might want to look into converting it to BTRFS or ext4.
What's the best process for doing this? I have various drives that are all NTFS but would like to make the switch to Linux without losing data.

>>106415612
There are tools to convert it but if you want the safest way to do it then backup everything important and format the drive and then restore your files from your backup.

>>106415612
Back up your data from one drive to an external btrfs drive, then format your internal drive to btrfs, and then copy the data back to your internal drive. Repeat for each of your NTFS drives.

>>106415660
>>106415675
Alright, thanks. I read in some Linux thread either here or /vg/ or somewhere that btrfs isn't recommended and to use ext4 instead, any idea why they might have claimed that?

>>106415694
They like silent bit rot and data corruption but since you use NTFS then this probably doesn't bother you…

Ext4 is more similar to NTFS in terms of feature-set so if you don't care about data integrity then just go for that. It's the plain, boring default most distros go for.

Can we all finally agree that fedora is the best distro?