Thread 106438845

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>106405948

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.


This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

Checking back in after I became a speakerfag 6 months ago
Has my collection of pos become obsolete yet?
>Simgot EA500
>Aful Performer 5
>Kiwi Ears Cadenza
>Moondrop Dawn Pro (1)

>>106438845 (OP)
I know this is not the general for it, but now that I got my mega5est's, do you guys have any cheap but still decent mic recommendations ? Best cost benefit possible on the lower end if possible.

>>106439244
everything is obsolete if you don't use eq

New to IEMS, are there any good planars?

>>106439316
no real benefits to using them, but there are a few decent ones

>>106439275
well what mic? usb for computer, fifine chinkshit is shilled, i guess it's prob fine for the price. if you mean in-line on the wire they're not very good. celest bundles a boom mic style one with some iems and sells it by itself

>>106439455
USB would be better. Any ideas?

Been redoing HTL training with 3 dB peaks and dips, and as I talked about before, it gets exponentially harder past level 4. Reaching level 6 is much, much harder than reaching level 9 in the usual test.

>>106438845 (OP)
Thinking about buying the sennheiser Momentum TW4s. Redpill me on them.

>>106439670
uuhhh /hsg/?

>>106439673
of course not.
>>106439676

>>106428539
I chose the zero2 (Type C), thx!, If I see that IEM's for me I might get to try the DACs as well.

>>106439673
wait do you even know what you're looking at in this rack? lmao

So do we know by now if Daybreak and P50 are the same pos/EPZ is Crinear's OEM?

Anyone know what's a good replacement for my TKZK Ouranos? I'm on my 3rd one and the right side sounds lower right now. Is the conch good enough? I'd rather have something that sounds closest to a MDRV6 if I can but something close to an Ouranos would be fine as well.

>>106439244
Pre-obsoleted by fox IEM.

>>106440515
you need to die, painfully preferably
>>106439492
anyone? It seems like a waste of cash but I have heard sennheisers are realiable

>>106440473
I cleaned the gunk from the filter and that seemed to fix it. Still would like some recommendations though. already have a kz edx pro that I alternate but I'd like to have a backup for why my Ouranos dies since it already has cracks on the shell.

>>106440571
>twshitter can't handle fox IEM
Lmao.

>>106438845 (OP)
imagine hooking something up to a vacuum tube and then sticking it into your ear canal kek

has someone chopped one of these up yet to see if it's real?

The collab between Hiby and Hatsune Miku is this DAP here, look like the Hiby R3 Pro II combine with the old walkman a35 miku edition, I love it
The IEM hasn't been reveal yet tho.
( I would've say it's the r3 pro ii but it's Hibydigital, not Hiby so it might be a new dap

I have in fact abandoned true wireless and gone back to wired headphones. Spent months sourcing a pair of Momentum in-ear from Japan lol. I also got several Sony Walkmans with built-in ANC piping to wired earbuds, and imo they easily sound better than any true wireless product up to $200.

True wireless is a huge source of electronic trash. Extra batteries, short shelf life/designed to be unrepairable. Railway workers in Japan have to pick up from the tracks, dozens of them falling out of people's ears each day, they even invented special contraptions for this. You can't be green or sensible and still use one of these things, that's just hypocrisy at the highest level. And - even LDAC is not as good as a physical cable. I'm just gonna say it. These 6-8 years was just one big running around for nothing, My answer is I've gone back to the wired earphones I'd been using before all this and I'm happy as a clam. Should have never fallen for the true wireless con.

True wireless is nice some of the time, but I also realized later on that I only "can't tolerate cable" when I'm having low-energy days. It's a great reminder to work on my health.

>>106441953
ehh I love my tws when I'm exercising
and when I'm doing shit that needs 2 hands and I want some music to drone out the boredom

>>106439730
you turn them knobs - trial and error

>>106439730
Hiss blaster 9000.

>>106441212
They're real pisces of shit.

What's the most efficient way to spend my money on some almost disposable levels of wireless bluetooth IEMs (not earbuds).
>Budget
Around 30$.
>Intended use
Listening to podcasts and any kind of music.
>Frequency Response
Don't care either way as long as they're cheap.

>>106442351
space travel?

>>106442351
>What's the most efficient way to spend my money on some almost disposable levels of wireless bluetooth IEMs
https://www.scarbir.com/tws/soundpeats-t3-pro-review
Less than $15 on Aliexpress

Just copped the artti t10s

Anyone had experience with them?

I really really like these, but the QC not so much; the first pair I got had really bad channel imbalance.

anyone knows where to get one with better QC across the board? I don't mind paying a premium as I really like these.

>>106442565
should have gotten the KZ ZSX Pro

>>106442617
I'll try them next. any recommendations on where to get them from?

Impressions after using Palavox Akasha over the weekend:
TLDR: Mid-forward, extremely wide-sounding, shrill air-maxxing pos with literally no mid-bass.

>Timbre
Akasha has this really clean and analytical tuning to it as a result of having zero mid-bass impact. Upper-mids and treble energy causes the Akasha to be shrill-sounding with lots of air/shimmer. But it is not lean-sounding, A/Bing with something like the Helios, you can tell the Akasha does have relatively thick lower-mids to it, but most of the time it is overpowered with its shrillness.

>Bass
No idea why Palavox even bothered putting a DD. Akasha has zero mid-bass. As for subbass, the Akasha does have BCD drivers which gives a slight hint of subbass rumble and texture. Bass on the Akasha is best described as ‘rumble with no slam/decay’.

>Uppermids/Treble
Akasha is quite the shrill pos, but because of its late pinna gain, it’s not shouty – female vocals have this breathy texture, and the midrange has this glassy sheen to it. The Akasha has tons of air and is very extended – much better than the Helios.

>Soundstage
One of its strong points. Very wide-sounding. Comparable to Storm in that regard.

>Cons
Noteweight for lower-register instruments is a real problem area: the lack of mid-bass punch and slam makes bass guitar sound really anemic; you can barely make out the strumming. It’s impossible to hear the initial “thump” on the jazz drums so all you get is the constant shimmering of cymbals/snares.

I wouldn’t use the Akasha for instrumentals because Akasha just lacks that initial slam to give instruments authority.

>Pros
Detail monster with great separation for busy/fast electronic tracks or female poison genres like jpop/kpop. Transients are sharp and fast, and the lack of mid-bass bloom/decay allows you to scrutinize details in the music.

Verdict: Very unique tuning and worth demo-ing for the experience. Canjam goers should make an effort to audition this pos if possible.

which normie tws to downgrade my fox tws to?

>>106440473
take the filters out entirely or buy new filters. ouranos is a way better pos than what its basic harman tuning shows. it's one of my favorite pos and as far as a1DD upgrade from that...kind of hard to say when EA500LM exists.
>>106442671
don't listen to him. ZSX is actually still pretty fun in 2025, but Hydro exists.

why is epz g10 so good, bros?

Let me guess, you need more?

>>106442952
I like these well enough.

>>106442929
ok nigga... now cable/source/tip/rock roll and do a 180 with your opinion

>>106440700
Imagine having sex. And then imagine having sex with a woman.

>>106443359
Yes.

>>106443671
what is a woman
what is sex

>>106433662
Can anyone recommend me something PLEASE, TANGZU SUCKS

>>106444292
but the chart looks good!!!

>>106444321
Tangzu is good, it's just that the qc is shit, and I need more bass desu, just a tad bit more

Can anyone help with white noise/hiss? I'm hearing it constantly while using Kefine Klean and Fiio JA11 on OnePlus 11. I've lowered device volume to 40 using the Fiio Control app, but the white noise is still audible especially during quieter parts of songs. The DAC adapter also gets disconnected from time to time, I'm not sure if that's just the app acting up but the white noise doesn't get louder when it happens. What other DAC should I get to eliminate this?

>>106445268
you got fiio'd, tough luck

Endgame with totl techs

>>106444344
just EQ?????

>>106445503
eq is cope, and no one reads the guide
eqtards will never learn

>>106444344
>qc is shit
What does this even mean? Are you afraid it's going to just fall apart? It seems pretty appropriate for $20. I've heard some complaints about the cable, but that's about it.
>needs more bass
So just add a low shelf filter w/ EQ.

>>106445298
I'm aware, that's not really helpful.

>>106445420
wild take. t10 pro is under $100 and is objectively better. pr2 is known to be holographic and can be had for $24

>>106445571
you don't need a guide to add 5dB bass shelf

>>106445420
zogslop

>>106445764
>pr2
got mine for 0 (zero) dollary-doos on aliexpress dot com

>>106446958
lucky fuck

>>106447022
protip check local shipping page at 3am and get the $10 voucher

>>106447293
3am 4chan time i mean

/iemg/ is dead, long live /hpg/

>>106448060
our shills rest during weekends, nigga. /hpg/ is literally dead if the OP stops bumping past 10 PM

Tututu~~
Connected! Shii... Hmm?
Disconnected...

>>106439670
goals

>>106448140
That's only because europoors can't afford headphones.

>>106438845 (OP)
WTB:
IEM with good sound quality (preferably Harmann or with a bit more vibrant sound particularly over bassier frequencies), think like the DT1990s
Budget is anywhere up to 1000$, but lower is preferable and sensible choices are preferred unless a clear concise justification can be given for a pricier product.
It needs to seat well in my ears even if I take it motorcycling without a helmet at high speeds.

If it supports a TWS module to use on the gym, then all the better.

>>106448940
>It needs to seat well in my ears even if I take it motorcycling without a helmet at high speeds.
this would have been the hardest requirement if you were to wear a helmet as there are few iems that sit flush with the ear
assuming you are not able to use eq, you are limited to the chopin, nova, and supermix4 as the defacto harman iems, but all are relatively bulky and do not sit well in the ear
maybe try the elua ultra, relatively very cheap and is useful for getting a feel on harman

>>106449022
I didn't mean it that way, but rather, something that is guaranteed not to come off my ears if I go too fast because of wind. Or worse, something that is incapable of blocking wind noise at higher speeds.

>>106449159
>something that is guaranteed not to come off my ears if I go too fast because of wind
this shouldn't be much of an issue
>Or worse, something that is incapable of blocking wind noise at higher speeds.
this is VERY hard, and is caused by the same issue that i described with wearing helmets; a lot of iems jut out of the ear, so any helmet you wear will push on them, and any wind that is blowing past will be amplified and transmitted
if isolation from wind is a top priority, then the usual shure/westone/etymotic iems will be ideal

>>106449338
I see, thanks for the help anon. If I go the shure route, which one should I go with for that specific sound signature (Harmann or maybe more vibrant )?

>>106449383
none to my knowledge have anything close to harman, same for westone and etymotic
you will have to sacrifice isolation and form for sound or vice versa.
the solution is to use eq, but that might not be possible

>>106440571
>you need to die, painfully preferably
BE NICE, you butt hurt dumb boy! BE NICE! :3

>>106444172
You're so cute and silly! :3

>>106449409
do the good thing and summon a ziigaat whore for me

I don't clean my Kiwiears Cadenzas. My Zero's (All of them). I use the dirtiest possible in the favela electric network. Fox niggas need to be skinned for their fur.

so we all agree that guidezo is the iemg professor of sounding?

>>106450265
professor of writing things nobody ever reads

>>106450380
sounds like the perfect professor then

>>106438845 (OP)
Hey guys, does the Ve Odo hold up well with the Kefine Klean or Artti T10 without any issues? I'm new to this hobby.

>he needs more
I am pretty comfy with this.

>>106450476
>Artti T10
overrated uncomfortable IEM

Let me guess.

>>106449409
You are not a woman, you will never be a woman either

Contemplating an upgrade from Truthear Nova.

Was considering Thieaudio Monarch Mk3 now they're on clearance, but would Tanchjim Origin/Xenn Mangird Tea Pro be a more logical incremental upgrade?

>>106451242
completely different tunings
nova is essentially a more sane take on harman and the only thing that remotely can be considered upgrade is moondrop variations

I want to have desktop audio and 3ds audio through my headphones. so I need to mix 2 RCA analog lines, is this thing the way to go or am I about to waste $40

the battery on my beloved r3 pro saber is expanding and the charge is suddenly shot. I guess I'm looking at the r3 pro II?

the suede backing and the protective case being open over it seems like ass, though

anyone have it, or any thoughts?

>>106442952
the cmf buds 2 have some annoying quirks:
- the eartips are not round but sorta elliptical. you can't really use aftermarket ones since they don't fit the "stem" well. you can force them on but then the buds don't fit in the charging case...
- the controls are garbage if your hand is wet/sweaty. they rarely register commands and you end up just switching the anc mode on/off. makes it almost useless for working out which is a big minus for me
- speaking of controls: they way you customize them is incredibly stupidly designed. for example, volume control can ONLY be assigned to tap+hold. you can't bind it to double tap or anything else. either tap+hold or disabled completely. and most of the functions are like that. and while i understand why there is no single tap control at all, i still would like to have the option.
- there is an option to make the buds pause playback when you take one bud out of your ear. and while you can disable that function you can NOT disable the beep that the bud makes when you trigger it, so it still does beep every time you take it out your ear. very annoying
- on a positive note - the buds have different sound alerts for triggering different functions so you can always tell if something got turned on by mistake
- you don't get a charging cable in the box. thankfully the charging port is usb-c

>>106438845 (OP)
How good is the Fiio K11? I've been thinking about getting the non R2R

>pos
What does this mean? Just "piece of shit", or does it have a different meaning in this here circle of autists?

>>106451980
pinnacle of sound

reddit cracked the code ;-;
is it over??

Received my Aful Explorer today, and have listened to them for an hour. These are just amazing. They're the closest of my IEMs to my Klipsch RF-8000 floor standing speakers so far. The sound is super balanced. Good bass, very clear vocals, great treble that is never shrill or sibilant. I don't want to EQ them at all.

Now, should I just be happy here or is there an upgrade for me? Is there something more expensive I can buy that will sound similar but even better?

>>106452802
Bullshit. Truthear Gate sucks. It's the worst one I have out of 9 iems. Anything from KZ, like the Castor Bass, Vader Pro, AM16 etc will wipe the floor with it.

>>106451980
you'll understand after you take your HRT sweetie

>>106450265
>we all
no idea who you think 'we' are, but there is no consensus tied to editor's wishful thinking. that's about as nice as I can put it.
>>106450380
no face no case
>>106453476
HRTFS are when the techs kick in though

>>106453343
shut up rat

>>106453337
hey enjoy them, not a bad purchase. stay away from EQ and you will be smooth sailing.

Fucking poorfags, someone give good feedback of the daybreak, you bought it right?

Is there no alternative to this for a USB-C dongle without a cable?

>>106453814
BA pos, avoid.

>>106453814
what's good about it?

>>106453657
Chatgpt is not a source.

>>106453840
There's also the kiwi ears allegro pro but that one sucks since it hisses with iems. I think the ddhifi grip is probably the best dongle form factor, hopefully it comes to a US retailer soon.

>>106453840
Jcally ja56

>>106453922
>>106453840
and Jcally ja3t sorta

>>106453901
yeah and neither are Sean Olive's scribblings.

>>106453657
>but there is no consensus tied to editor's wishful thinking
you are projecting

eq guide my beloved...

>>106453814
it literally sounds like jm-1 pos lol what else do you need to know?

>>106450265
>iemg professor of sounding
It's clearly OP and his setup, sorry chud

Let me guess, you need more.

>>106454118
i need a delta-sigma DAC

>>106454118
are those the FX17s?

>>106453789
Imagine using speakers without EQ...

>>106454214
where are the all the hardware equalizers in everyone's speaker setups then?

>>106454356
In the AVR dummy.

>>106454364
you can load peq and hrtfs in those?

Do custom IEMs measure poorly? If so, why is that?

>>106454397
Yes.
>>106454415
They "measure" poorly because imagine fitting that thing into a coupler. Otherwise they're just deep insert IEMs. A more severe problem is that companies that specialize in making custom IEMs can't tune universal IEMs either.

>>106454415
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/precogs-iem-reviews-impressions.937468/page-186#post-17207314

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/precogs-iem-reviews-impressions.937468/page-139#post-16874193

>>106454118
>File's original sample rate is 44.1khz
>DAC plays it back at a higher sample rate than necessary
That's one of my biggest pet peeves despite knowing I wouldn't hear a difference if I were blindfolded.

>>106454415
longer tubes = physical low pass filters
+ use shitty BAs = low output and/or peaky inherent driver frequency response (undesirable peaks at 2, 5, and/or 8khz, no ultra-high extension)
= decades of mid iems

>>106454588
ermmm... just read the eq guide

>>106454639
Yes.

>>106454588
Why do they use a gorillion BA drivers anyway? Is it to justify higher prices?

>>106454568
>File's original sample rate is 44.1KHz
>DAC is NOS
>Play it back at 384KHz anyway

>>106454147
Upsampling with high quality algorithms is available even on portables now grandpa. You don't need to convert to 1-bit anymore.

>>106454738
yes

>>106454810
ok R2R grandma

>>106454834
Give me one reason I should bit crunch my 16-bit CD audio source to 1-bit when I can just directly upsample to 384KHz and play back with 15 more bits.

>>106454845
cuz it's not transparent as a good delta sigma ($9), especially with the NOS reconstruction filter https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/fiio-k11-r2r-dac-hpamp-measurements.60228/

>>106454895
Not an argument. Take meds.

>>106454900
enjoy inferior sound then i guess
any resistor mismatch adds up to higher non-linearity in the system, and you're 100% getting chink'd by fiio

>>106454920
Is the Chinese in the room with us right now?

how much do audio codex matter on tws earbuds?

>>106455164
not that much by itself. your device and files are also relevant.

>>106455300
thanks. ive never had tws but im getting somes free ones with my new phone (google pixel). even though they're like $200 msrp they only support aac. but i have apple music so should be good enough for on-the-go phone listening

>>106454214
You just need to EQ the room modes below approx 400Hz if present
Hifi speakers do not need any correction padt that

Remember to use PEQdB Studio

>>106445268
Anyone?

>>106455452
>Hifi speakers do not need any correction past that.
how? better quality speakers?

>>106455641
Just get an apple dongle and be done with it. Or spend extra and try Fosi DS2 if you want hardware controls.

>>106455723
Apple dongle doesn't really play nice on Android phones and if by some luck it does on a particular model the volume suffers. I think I'd much rather go for something like Fosi Audio DS2, thanks.

>>106455762
>fosi ds2
seconded. it's more than I need for pos as it doubles as a desktop/mobile dac.

>>106455864
Does it use an app or no? I'm asking because Fiio's app isn't the greatest.

>>106450634
>he needs more
No, I need less boomy bass. The original Zero is still better imo

>>106452802
>>106453343
Gate isn't my absolute favorite but it has a very safe tuning. Plus I jumped in the pool with them, completely submerged the driver and wires and they still sound totally fine. Most hybrid IEMs would be fucked after that.

>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2AY76Cxkrw8
>survives the washer test
epzchads simply never stop winning

>>106456171
>bald jumpscare
kyskyskys

>>106455886
nope

>>106454118
Indeed, I need EDC Pro

I fell for the meme and ordered ruta10, zero2 and will order tanchjims next 3am. Is it worth it? I spent almost all my damn ali coins.

>>106456727
>is it worth
>$0
yes pagpag emperor

>>106456727
How is that even possible

>>106456778
Coins, coupons, Aliexpress Prime and picrel

>>106456786
>Aliexpress Prime
I have never heard of this
>picrel
Where even is that?
Might be a regional thing too

My haul rn, waiting on 9 more pairs

>>106456801
Local shipping in the app, might be US only

>>106456850
you are the goyslop king

>>106456850
ow my neck

>>106456292
iems be clean af tho frfr

>>106456865
Local shipping tab under any product's listing? Or is it on the homepage?

I finally got the Kiwi Ears Quintet. I previously had the Simgot E6ML.

>>106457056
you liking them?

>>106457087
Yeah, I love them. I see what some Anons meant by the Simgot being "a bit bright" now that I have another IEM to compare it to (still new to IEMs in general). I've always been a fanatic for bass. It's great.

EQ guide really is the ultimate litmus test.

>>106458491
the word grifter REALLY is not used enough

>"essentially a less detailed, less technical version of the EPZ P50. it does have more sub-bass going, however."
interesting since I returned Xuan NV for EA500LM and the difference is night and day. fuck an EPZ

editor here
july posted with unformatted pics
thoughts and shit
pretty long
pretty tired

IEMs are free.

>>106459189
don't let the shitposters get you down brother

planning to change the termination of my old Sony Ericsson HPM-20 earbuds from whatever proprietary shit there is to 3.5mm jack and relive the 2000's peak aural experience again

>KZ now goes for the full tranny tuck meme
its over KZbros...we're no longer the chuddie iem brand. at this rate, we might even get a KZ waifu soon. time to save up for HRT.

>>106460518
holy mother of coondrop gayriations

>>106456727
>>106456786
>Coins, coupons, Aliexpress Prime and picrel
This doesn't explain how you got IEMs for free.

>>106460526
jokes on you. even coomdrop's tuck aint that deep.

>>106456895
You mean paglord, but thanks

>>106460629
lol, lmao even
imagine KZ's next pos tuned to Supershartman Target with tranny tuck like in Pissces but also super shouty 5k

Just got the Ruta10 for $1. Sale price + coins plus coupon. Great deal.

>>106438845 (OP)
Should I get the iBasso DC04 if I want something portable that can also drive a HD600 or higher impedance headphone, or is there a cheaper option ? The guide mentions some other options but I couldn’t find codecs/specsheets for most. Keep in mind by drive I mean something like 4 V @300 ohms with good SNR.

Anyone help ?

>>106460518
>>106460526
>>106460629
>>106460712
they've been into the meme for a while now.
KZ Castor (non-pro) Bass edition is literally Moondrop Variations.

>>106461328
2DD W

>>106461304
Fosi ds2 has 4V over balanced, you might even be fine with jcally jm20 max(2.5V unbalanced).

>>106458983
Chatgpt pranked you bro.

Theres not a single good iem ever since the qkz x hbb got revised

>EDC Pro
Revised too

>KZ [...]
Revised even before releasing

>>106462904
revised sounds better because kz drivers are too good

stop whining

>>106438845 (OP)
Should I reinforce the seam in my shure se535s and if so, how? I heard many complain about the plastic shell just splitting for no reason, particularly when pulled at an angle by the cable. I believe reinforcing might change the tuning ever so slightly, so the repair must be done in a way that minimizes this impact. What material do I even use ?

>>106453343
>>106453725
>>106455975
>>106455975
>>106452802
kz castor pro is all you need until they release a kz castor pro tws

soundpeats t3 pro :|
hifiman tws450 :)
audio technica ath-sq1tw2 :O

>>106463002
What is the sound signature like ? And does it have a version with a boom mic , because KZ mics on average suck massive dildos.

Just remembered the original intention of using earphones is to enjoy music as I opened my $0 PR1. Thank you KZ.

>>106462904
*blocks your path*

>>106463395
WRONG. It is to improve techs.

>>106463080
just buy a $30 3rd party cable for your $20 IEMs :o)

I can already tell PR1 mogs Sennheiser in instrument separation and bass lol

>>106463726
I mean if you could actually recommend a good 30$ cable, I would. We need a iem+mic guide ASAP for retards like me, albeit the kinera wyvern pro mic sounds really good from what I have seen online and it is on the guide “technically”. Same for antlion shit I believe.
>>106463747
Bait so obvious, /g/ might actually fall for it
>>106463551
Can you stop with your futa furry spam already? Everytime you post this shit it SCREAMS troon. I don’t particularly care but it’s getting EXTREMELY repetitive. The other anon could learn a thing or two about baiting from you, because you are unironically being annoying.

>>106463811
>sennfag needs a $30 cable to fix his IEM
kek

>>106463747
Any IEM mogs sennheiser. The least resolving piece of shit on the planet. It's like you're only hearing 50% of music.

>>106463818
You are wrong, I only need 50$ foam pads to fix my headphones. The IEMs are unfixable, and if it’s TWS, they come broken from the factory.

>>106463811
Since this thread is reddit already I figured you'd be ok with a reddit screenshot.

>>106463811
>Can you stop
No.

>>106463847
Only >>106438953 is reddit.

>>106462371
it was a reviewer's quote.

>>106463811
>Futa furry
Averi has a futa cock? With this new information, it could potentially make her an unironic W Faps.

>>106464200
Bro...

>>106464357
what?
who is to be taken seriously then? the people that actually have tried different pos
OR
a no-name, no-face anon who thinks xhe runs this general and who's 'eq-guide' is backed by sean olive notes.

can't have both and expect to be taken seriously

>>106464547
>who is to be taken seriously then?
Definitely not chatgpt I tell you what.

>>106464129
Correction, this >>106464547 is also reddit.

>>106464559
so you don't disagree with me thus far. great. you really are aimless with your shitting up these threads

>>106464570
Literally the same guy lmao.

thinking of biting the bullet on og Odyssey or Odyssey 2. anyone here own a ZiiGaat they're proud of?

>>106438845 (OP)
are you trolling?

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MW2Q3AM/A/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter

Apple dongle is by far the best DAC on the market, what you do after with clean signal is your business.

It even works with PC audio out, so there really is no reason to go any other way

>>106464743
>you. contributing nothing. derailing any possible attempt at a conversation. looking to disrupt and pick a fight at every opportunity. keep thinking different anons are all one.


this is you. an actual nutjob. successfully killing this general like clockwork.

>>106464743
who cares epziggers do the same shit all the time

>>106465043
Unlike them Saint doesn't own a single IEM, let alone an IEM he shills.

why is epz g10 so good, /g/irls?

>>106465058
quite frankly i don't give a shit, they're both just as bad except saintzo at least doesn't shit up every thread (just most of them)

>>106464669
>ZiiGaat
i've heard several of them, they're fine. decent tuning. the resin shells (odyssey1) are all the same shape, kinda meh, doesn't sit flush and sticks out quite a bit. i prefer more pseudocustom molding.
imo odyssey is pretty overpriced. tea pro gets you better accessories and arguably a better iem as a whole

>>106464669
super review vid is up.
tl;dw it's just more "new meta." dozens of releases over the past few months that are basically the same shit. there isn't some magical answer to a "best." some tilt warmer or brighter, up to you to pick one. besides sound, consider: price, accessories, fit, design.
again as far as accessories especially when you drop more money, ziigaat really cheaps out. crap cables, the most generic tips, etc.

Anyone here with tanch lego? How's the quality irl? Tempted to buy.

>>106465347
>quality irl
Irl doesn't matter, look at the chart.

>>106465347
>Anyone here with tanch lego?
duh.
>How's the quality irl?
good.

>asks question about a brand
>"you're a shill!"

>>106465174
which of them personally appeal to you the most?
>>106465271
I've been keeping my eye on these pos that follow a value line leading to subtonic storm, but I don't feel a real need to upgrade right now. it's just that ziigaat really piqued my interest lately, but with how many pos they include with branded drivers, I'm likely going elsewhere.

>>106465780
That means they're a shill for another brand. Projection and all.

>>106465843
>which of them personally appeal to you the most?
frankly none. doscinco was fine but considered old now, superseded by various newer releases.
>>106465843
>don't feel a real need to upgrade
then don't bother keeping track. they'll probably release 4 more iems in similar price bracket by 11.11 (include all of linsoul brands maybe more than 10, seriously).

I like to use my epz haha

>>106465347
What's the name of that website? :c

I want to buy one too! c:

>>106465860
how does that work? like a double agent/counterintelligence op?

Got £20
What should I get
I like noise rock mostly and video games

Anyone have both Tanchjim Bunny and Moondrop May, is the difference noticable?
Want to upgrade to something more, but keep it under $100

>>106466019
>Noise Rock
Truthear Gate is pretty detailed midrange-wise for guitars, a little soft on treble and flat on bass. The cable is great, especially if you take the effort to cut off the plastic hooks.

I've been using Oneplus Buds 4 for few days already, kinda great deal at $70. Snoys are still bit cleaner in higher frequencies but imo not worth extra money - better spend it on aftermarket eartips because stock ones offer dogshit noise isolation.

>>106465174
Tea Pro costs 60% more than the Odyssey

>>106466418
>he missed the $230 Shenzhen sale

>>106465271
Seems like Odyssey 2 is worse than 1. Less/no midbass and a bigger peak at 3k, and a bit more treble as well.

>>106465843
I haven't tried any but the Arcadia seems good. It's supposedly similar to the Aful Explorer.

>>106466456
Anon, Explorer is anything but good.

>>106451854
>How good is the Fiio K11? I've been thinking about getting the non R2R
The non R2R K11 is an excelent delta-sigma DAC with a mid amp. It's good if you don't intend to drive power hungry headphones.

>>106454895
>R2R DACs are not as transparent as delta-sigma DACs
Looks like we have a Sherlock here.
Of course they aren't, they add a distinctive distortion that increases the perception of a more analog/natural timbre, it's the whole point of owning a R2R DAC.

>>106466592
embarrassing

is kz dawn good for helldivers 2?

Why is the nothing is ever audible crowd sperging about R2R? Are they implying that something, in fact, is audible?

>>106466692
R2R, tubes and BAs are the holy trinity of intentionally bad audio. Sure, if you reject 100 years of progress by using these you'll get something audible.

>>106464733
>It even works with PC audio out, so there really is no reason to go any other way

It used to be before Android 16.

>>106466948
>obvious crosstalk diff between balanced and unbalanced
not audible
>hiss on gutter oil chinkslop daps
not audible
>high nonlinear output impedance
not audible
>2dB difference in SINAD between R2R and D/S
REEEE ITS HECKIN AUDIBLE R2R LE BAD

>>106467010
You get all of the above on R2R and tubes as well as destroyed low level signals due to non-linearity.

>>106467032
but all of the above are inaudible because it validates your purchases, therefore the end result is also must be inaudible

>>106467072
Why would I buy that pos.

>>106467095
i have no idea what garbage you bought why are you asking me

>>106467106
>i have no idea what garbage you bought
>but all of the above are inaudible because it validates your purchases
Pick one.

>>106467134
one

>>106467159
I accept your concessione.

>>106463551
>fox poster has an open lament configuration
checks out

>>106467166
nta, but cope harder

>>106467166
ata, but cope harder

>>106467426
xer nihilism/narcissism checks out as well.

>>106467665
who is this swarthoid

>>106467426
A necessary item to yiff in hell.

>>106466692
They're jealous of the superiority of R2R, multibit and NOS. There's not much more to it, you see how many fucking poorfags there are in this thread. They can literally only afford to post charts. Then they larp as if they've heard it. And pretend their charts are a scientific argument, when it's really as anti-science as you can get.

>MuHhHHH ANaloG sound
>MuHH superiority
You just paid for an extra roll-off, retard

>>106468684
>muh SCIENCE

>>106468684
Get a job faggot

>>106468113
>foxposter is a cenobite
I am suddenly scared of ever trying a pair of whatever he's using

>IEM has DSP only
This extension should be fine right?

>>106468863
>doesn't have HRTFS baked in beforehand.
Class 3 listener moment I guess

>>106463002
The Libra X / whatever the "High res" model is looks neutral enough to me. If I need any more IEMs I'll give that one a try.

>>106468949
Forgot pic

>>106468949
KZ has a bright future ahead of them.

>>106468952
>>106468962

>>106469104
IEMs are free.

I'm at work, working right now, working hard to afford a pair of Tanchjim Bunny that I will buy for $0

>NOOOOO you can't use my $0 IEMs to listen to pbthal vinyl rips on your $270 R2R and tube amp because my charts are the science
Did I miss any nuance?

As promised, Ruta10 review. Too lazy, didn't take pics, sorry.

Accessories: Average, which means it's relatively good, and for the price, great. You can get these for around $10, and the accessories are acceptable. There is nothing that immediately needs to be replaced, the cable and tips are fine and work well enough with the IEMs. The cable handles itself very well: it is very thin (think of the white cable that came with some TinHifi IEMs) but has practically no memory. The Y split design is old but doesn't bother me and the strain reliefs are good.

Comfort: The shell is rather strange and is slanted, and when worn, the nozzle will twist and angle itself properly, in turn making the slanted faceplate be parallel to the ear. However, the fitting is weird, and in my experience requires a lot of trial and error with tips. The earhooks also hampered fit security a lot, so I removed them. In my opinion this is mandatory since the shell of the IEM only relies on the nozzle/eartip for security, it does not rest anywhere in the ear.

>>106469348
Pic shows the channel matching on top, and the effects of covering the vents on the bottom.

Sound: I won't go into detail, it sounds fine, bassy and decent timbre. Honestly sounds like a Wan'er with more treble and a bit more bass, both changes that I like.

Channel matching: I've seen worse, I've seen better. It is far from good, and the discrepancy is big and wide enough to be slightly audible. I wouldn't be bothered after a while but it is a bit disappointing. The only real issue is everything below 1khz, the rest above is small enough to not be distracting.

Vents: The effects of covering the front and back vents are as expected, but the changes are decent. You can cover the front to have more bass, cover the back to decrease bass, or both to reduce the region around 100hz. Too much of a hassle for me, I would just use EQ.

Distortion: Nothing much to say, inaudible and stuff. Surprising amount of 3H but that's that. 104dB.

>>106469356
Insertion depth: Shit looks so cool. Anyways it looks good, pretty much the same changes as seen with others. I have to remind you all that the range (7-10khz) is probably shifted higher in frequency, it should be probably be around 5.5-9khz, although since the Ruta is very small it is probably higher.

Conclusion: Another IEM that is well built, measures nicely, and fits fine. I don't feel strongly about it, get it if you want to. I do think it's a fine addition to the OP, it is basically a Wan'er with better build and increased treble. The differences are relatively small ccompared to others so I wouldn't fret over it.
I prefer it over the Gate and Wan'er. I would take the Q1 Pro and Bunny over it.

>>106469363
are you deaf? otherwise its odd to prefer shartman treble rape over ruta10

>$100 tier-breaker vs coomdrop wannabe flagship
>same 2DD+8BA configuration
if shopping guide editor would like to learn something about value and actually add that to their already piss poor list, considering CCA Hydro would make sense in the grand scheme of things. maybe salvage at best, some amount of credibility.

>>106469569
there are 8bas doing nothing. show me their crossover and implementation. what frequencies are they covering?

>>106469348
>You can get these for around $10
I got my Ruta10 for $1 yesterday because of the sale and coins and coupons.

>>106469569
>tunign
what in the third world brown shitskin website is this?
not gonna lie though it fits right into the shitty list lol

>>106469356
>It's a Waner except V shaped
Fuck, I wasted $0 on this.

>>106469499
Are you referring to what I prefer? If so, the Q1 Pro fits me much better. I prefer how the Ruta10 sounds.

>>106469650
oh okay just making sure :)

>>106469595
why ask for shit when you set the pretense already? look up and compare graphs yourself.
>>106469615
iemranking.com
I'm agreeing with you lol

>>106469723
i'm not talking about the frequency response on the whole. i'm talking about the frequency range that 8BAs are supposed to cover. show me proof of them working and covering a significant range of frequencies. otherwise, they are decorative. you're paying $100+ for 2DD. great deal?

>retards drooling on themselves fighting over pos
1dd + eq guide was in front of you this whole time and yet you still look back and step in your shit

>>106469723
>why ask for shit when you set the pretense already? look up and compare graphs yourself.
damn you are stupid lmao

>>106469739
nobody has ever read the eq guide

>>106469745
somehow even headfi and reddit subhumans are smarter than anons here, what a surprise

>>106469752
good point i don't think even redditors would waste all that time writing a shitty guide nobody reads

>>106469735
>>106469744
>decorative
I get being iffy because of KZ's past, but nobody has even suggested that fuckery is going in with their BAs. smooth and cohesive is the universal descriptor of its hybrid setup. don't sweat it.

>>106469758
with Hydros BAs*

ok seriously has ANYONE ever read the eq guide?
fuck it, has anyone even clicked on that link?

>>106469763
lots of people have clicked on the link... by accident

>>106469765
tragic, when will it be removed from out memories?

>>106469769
well considering nobody has read it, was it ever in our memories in the first place?

>>106469771
good question, might as well ignore it, but i don't like having a potential malware link in the op

>>106469782
Here you go: >>106469786

>>106469739
PR1 doesn't need EQ

>>106469763
I did a while ago
why?

>>106469791
everything needs eq

>>106469809
Sounds fine out of my power amp terminals