Thread 106460419

Is it possible to use this piece of shit, without basically live streaming the contents of your hard drives to "them" and having all your actions on the internet archived?

I mean like some anti-spyware software or something?

I have looked into O&O ShutUp10++ and it seems decent(ish). Is there anything better out there?

Inb4: use Linux. I did for months ... and I just fucking can't anymore. It's always something with Linux. It's just a matter of time before you have to fix some basic shit which would never even be a problem on Windows.

>>106460419 (OP)
Unplug the ethernet cable

>>106460419 (OP)
install gentoo

ChrisTitus.com

I don't know why people pretend like nothing ever breaks on windows
Microsoft shat out an update like 10 days ago which literally destroys SSDs
I'm not a linux shill but try using a non meme distro

>>106460443
ext4 or btrfs won't save you either.
Although that bug report is for ZFS on the same SSD as the Windows article (WD SN770), the faults described in the Linux bug report look like would also happen with ext4 or btrfs.

So I searched for reported problems with SN770 and ext4, and found enough results to convince me.

That particular SSD fails with Linux and ext4 too.

>>106460419 (OP)
Those kinds of scripts are either placebo, or only kind of work for a little while, or actually harmful. At the end of the day if you use Windows you're going to have to take at least a few inches of Microsoft's cock up your ass. Your best bet is probably network filtering like adguard blocking Microsoft's telemetry and ad domains.

>>106460419 (OP)
No, not 100%. You can mitigate the real world damage by not storing PII on your system, but then that limits what you can do with it.

Ameliorated Windows
>inb4 muh updates

>>106460443
>I'm not a linux shill but try using a non meme distro

OP here. I used Linux Mint, Fedora, Nobara and Manjaro so far. Fairly certain that using another distro is not the answer. No matter what distro I use, eventually I will run into some problem which I can't fix or find a solution for and then it's down to "can I live without [thing that doesn't work]".

oo shutup 10 with recommended settings
titus script to set services to manual and updates to be delayed
hagezi blocklist for hosts
defender remover
removeWindowsAI script
revo uninstaller to remove all bloat

Takes 15 minutes and you'll end up with a faster and more stable system than any linux distro will ever be

>>106460432
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil?tab=readme-ov-file
>Press the Windows key.
>Type "PowerShell" or "Terminal" (for Windows 11).
>Press Ctrl + Shift + Enter or Right-click and choose "Run as administrator" to launch it with administrator privileges.
>copy/paste: irm "https://christitus.com/win" | iex
PROFIT?

>>106460516
I would go with Chris Titus. Everything just werks.

>>106460419 (OP)
Windows 7 64-bit will give you the absolute best leverage if you have the skills to secure it and bring it up to date, but since you're using 11 already, that means you're retarded and have no business doing any of this. Enjoy your 30gb rootkit.

>>106460419 (OP)
You can't, m8. I'm not a Linux shill, I don't like it either and would rather Microsoft just made a normal OS like Windows 7 again but I've reluctantly made the switch now and won't go back. I use Fedora KDE which as far as I can tell is the Windows of Linux. There were absolutely issues but I've resolved them all and everything has been working without issue for around two years now.

>>106460443
Issue was so rare neither Microsoft nor Phison could not recreate it so they concluded it was fake news

>>106460419 (OP)
block all domains your shitdows doing handshakes with on startup

Don't use it in the first place. If you weren't a retard, you would have made the switch back during the Vista days.

>>106460419 (OP)
It possible, but IDK it will possible in future. Use a firewall for blocking shit. I prefer Simplewall, but you can use what do you like.

>>106460607
Well to be honest if you're simply that incompetent you shouldn't be posting here
PEBKAC

>>106461971
hey I didn't know this board turned into reddit with arrogant fat fucks!

>>106461983
Cry harder retard
While I'm not fat, you are obviously incompetent

>>106461991
? I'm not the guy you're answering to, and loonix is a hodgepodge of poorly written scripts mixed and matched together under the guise of muh unix philosophy.
An OS that requires me to follow news, do manual interventions under the hood, or debug shit I didn't write is not an OS but a timesink hobby project.

Windows 11 and macOS Sequoia are the best operating systems out there. Only troons and poors will disagree

>>106460419 (OP)
Yes.

>inb4 Linux

Ok. Put FreeBSD on another drive and use that to load your Windows drive as a VM and only use it as needed. There are almost zero reasons to be using Windows in the year of our Lord 2025.

>>106460419 (OP)
>Is it possible to use this piece of shit, without basically live streaming the contents of your hard drives to "them" and having all your actions on the internet archived?

The short answer is "No."

The longer answer is "You can fuck around with the OS and fight it and try to uninstall the AI bullshit and disable Recall, but in the end, it's closed source and Microsoft push out updates that you can't prevent from installing automatically, so... No."

>>106462063
For real work

>>106460607

I want to switch to Linux Mint but I'm worried about something like this too. Can you give me some examples of these "unsolvable" problems?

>>106462077
I work for a Taiwanese network equipment manufacturer. I know for a fact they use Linux exclusively for everything.

Trying to claim that Linux can't be used "for real work" is pants-on-head retarded.

>>106461564
No dark theme in windows 7 unfortunately the way it's implemented in 10

>>106462119
Yeah Linux and every UNIX based operating system is great if you develop it and tailor it for your needs, the PS5 based on FreeBSD for example does wonders, in the other hand I won't use the shitty meme os with horrifically glued software that just doesn't work, call me when i'll be able to launch 3DS, Maya, Unreal Engine, the ps5 sdk or playfab on Loonix

>>106462077
There is no such thing as work in a computer

>>106462211
Yup I found the loonix unemployed neckbeard

>>106462077
Are you retarded or something? The work I do is undoubtedly more real than whatever the fuck you’re doing on Windows.

>>106462047
Works on my machine

>>106462198
> Games
Grow up loser

>>106462276
I'm a game programmer, specialized in engines and porting to systems, and you are?
>>106462297
"I'm an adult now mom games is for kids i'm not a kid anymore!!!!!!" this is how I see you teenadults kek
>>106462289
lmao

>>106460419 (OP)
Try Mint Cinnamon.

Over the past 20 years, I tried Linux well over a dozen times (including several attempts at Mint), never managing to last longer than a week, as my daily driver, before going back. Somehow, though, I've managed to stay on it for over 3 weeks this time; everything seem to be working a lot better than in the past.

It does require a bit of tinkering here and there, initially though. It's not the straight swap for Windows normies some people shill it as.

>>106460419 (OP)
I wouldn't trust Windows Home/Pro to be private or reliable, they're testbeds for businesses. If you *have* to use Windows 11, grab yourself the Enterprise build if you must use GAC features, or if you are fine with LTSC go for Ent LTSC or IoT LTSC depending on your needs. For me? It's

Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 + Offline Install + EEA Region + Local Account + HWID MAS Activation + Simplewall + Group Policy Tweaks + Task Scheduler Tweaks from fwt

Just doing this and running a proper browser like Brave or Firefox+uBO with DNS over HTTPS, Proton VPN, DuckDuckGo Search or Brave Search, and a self-hosted or encrypted email makes you more private and secure than 99% of linux users that run meme linux forks and download random rices, scripts, and programs from the internet.

>>106462457
What a massive poser
Isn't school back yet?

>>106460419 (OP)
Literally no windows version does that by default. Even recall, which is only available on accelerated HW, and disabled by default, cant really do that. Tinywall can help you decide whether to allow certain software to connect to the internet or not though. Regardless, you need some strong meds and thick, juicy BBC.

>>106463016
what a weird thing to post

>>106460432
Insecure

literally the UI of 11 is entirely javascript
do you want hindu hands on everything you interact with, like how you want poo-infested iphone 17s?

>>106462047
That's why you use a proper distro like Ubuntu or Fedora and not done hobbyist crap like Arch

>>106460419 (OP)
Theoretically yes
Practically your settings will magically revert every few months
Use linux (will never do it but its still janky af) or macos (is decent now but will probably send all your data in like 2 years since lol shareholders want more)

>gnome, kde, xfce
why do you need that many? How about polishing one instead of having a bunch of half finished ones?

>>106463331
Because different users want different things. Why do car manufacturers make so many different models of cars instead of just one car for everyone?

>>106463348
>Why do car manufacturers make so many different models of cars instead of just one car for everyone?
Cause theyre tarded, just as linux devs
Splitting the few dev resources available i to twenty projects means linux will never be as seamless as alternatives

>>106463373
Why would forcing all the devs from different desktop environments into a single project when they all have conflicting ideas and methods result in s better end product? Why do you think gnome or kde don't already have enough developers? How many developers do you think are necessary?

>>106463444
>Why do you think gnome or kde don't already have enough developers?
Cause I tried all three and all of them are pretty mediocre, with piddly software that have early 2000s limitations (Ristretto shitting itself on 50 MPx photos are you serious) or are buggy in general like Evince
>How many developers do you think are necessary?
More, clearly

>>106463239
but gnome and KDE are the biggest pieces of shit I've ever interacted with, gnome slighly better though

>>106460419 (OP)
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
+
firewall

>>106460419 (OP)
>Is it possible to use this piece of shit, without basically live streaming the contents of your hard drives to "them" and having all your actions on the internet archived?
Just like with every version of Windows since Vista.

>>106463874
this
this board is full of fear mongering incompetent lincels

>>106460443
Weird how this stuff never happens to the vast majority of users and the only reason you even know about it is because 100000 faggots have decided slandering tech companies on youtube is a real job now.

Its almost like Microsoft collects data for a reason. Its almost like it uses that data to improve its product. They collect generalized user data from yiu and the other 10000000 dipshits out there just like you. They statistically analyze that data. They couldnt give less than 2 shits about you personally.

Ill spell it out for you idiots who still dont get it.

>YOU ARENT INTERESTING
>NOBODY CONSIDERS YOU A THREAT THAT MUST BE MONITORED 24/7
>NOBODY GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU DO
>NOBODY HAS TIME TO READ YOUR BORING SHIT
>YOU ARE SO BORING WATCHING YOU WOUKD BE A MISUSE OF AI

>>106463935
>Its almost like Microsoft collects data for a reason. Its almost like it uses that data to improve its product.
Thank you satya poodella for improving my miserable life by showing me more ads than ever before

>>106463889
>Just like with every version of Windows since Vista
Facts.

>>106460443
All OSes have their issues, I think Linux has many more due to lack of DE maintainers, but the system is so much cleaner than Windows.
It requires someone technical, but once you learn it, it's really, really good. Like that scalpel meme that used to be posted here.

just dual boot OP

unfortunately they both suck just in different ways.

>>106460456
simple fix: stick with the tried and true, HDDs

BECOME AN iTODDLER
OR USE LINUX OR STFU OP.
BUT YEAH DONT USE WINDOWS, ITLL CORRUPT YOUR HARD DRIVES EVENTUALLY.
ALMOST LIKE THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE.

>>106462389
nta, i use adobe and other "proprietary" programs that are a pain to use on linux, besides of course games
How is mint currently handling?

>>106461124
I wouldn't trust windblows 11 with a functional update feature.

>>106462096
Nta, but Mint and all other Ubuntu/Debian variants have so many users and so much information online you can just :google' your problem and get the solution in minutes. It's the same thing you do in windows. If it doesnt work, reinstall the program or OS, again, same as on windows. Steam was borked for me on fedora, reinstalled steam, bam.

The only problems that you cant fix or are "too dumb" to fix are the ones where you are the problem, like getting some exotic hardware to work on a distro that isnt arch where the only other user of that specific thing made the drivers available. Or trying to run some retard game with malware style anticheat like fartkike or Faglorant. 99.9% of all steam games work asode from those.

t. mid tech literate zoomer with a soundcard and a 4k screen with high refresh rate, got all of it to work in 15 minutes, there is no excuse.

>>106462047
but enough about windows 10

>>106460419 (OP)
>Windows 11
>Is it possible to use this piece of shit
No dude and that hasn't been possible since the early 2000's if you don't want spying don't connect the pc to the internet ever and live in a faraday cage

>>106467178
>BUT YEAH DONT USE WINDOWS, ITLL CORRUPT YOUR HARD DRIVES EVENTUALLY.
Shut the fuck up you useless cunt and go be a disappointment to your parents some more you waste of fucking space

>>106460419 (OP)
yeah, don't connect it to the internet

All the anons advocating that wanglows "just works" are actually gaymers that have no other choice.

>>106460419 (OP)
Best thing you can do is just never connect it to the internet.
Next best thing is never use an online account, only local, and block unwanted connections with the firewall.
Other than that, no. Not that it matters anyway, you got a phone right?, connected to you home wifi, right? Then (((they))) can get you whenever they want.

>>106469103
maybe, but it does literally just work.

>>106469103
Nothing "just works" anymore. Not windows, not linux, neither android or ios. Everything is coded by jeets paid in peanuts.
It's all degrees friction and silicon lotteries.

>>106461208
>Windows 7 64-bit will give you the absolute best leverage if you have the skills to secure it
No one ever explains how they are allegedly securing their win7 machines.

>>106460443
>Microsoft shat out an update like 10 days ago which literally destroys SSDs
More like triggers bugs in broken controllers that then require a full power cycle to start working again, but yes they did.

>>106469103
That's because Windows Just Works.
After a bunch of tweaking, and if an update doesn't malfunction and corrupt core system components (uncommon) and force you to reinstall Windows.

>>106469373
This. Just make a local account then (((they))) don't have anything on you that they wouldn't also have were you running linux.

>>106460773
I kneel

>>106460424
That won't work, they'll demand you reconnect after a while

>>106460419 (OP)
>year 7 since our emperor naruhito assumed the throne
>still using wangblows unironically on your personal machine