Thread 106462628

What went so WRONG?

>What went so WRONG?
Apple Derangement Syndrome caused by poverty and your brain chemistry being altered by Google marketing and recommendation algorithms, which resulted in your making this thread for the 10th time.

That's what went wrong.

>>106462628 (OP)
No killer app.

>>106462628 (OP)
the only people interested in VR are gaymers and coomers.
Apple cockblocked them both for some insane reason

The thing was like 80lbs nobody could stand to wear it for more than 30min

>>106462792
Even with an external battery? Pathetic.

They tried to enter a two decade old market with an overpriced product and no porn games

>>106462656
>Apple Derangement Syndrome
>screams rajeesh the ishill spammer
>that gets shit on by everyone
GOOD MORNING SIR!

>>106462628 (OP)
VR headsets are inherently dogshit. Almost nobody actually wants to regularly wear a heavy clunky piece of equipment that covers their face just to do computer shit. The only half-reasonable use is videogames and even there it's pretty niche and only if you never ever have people over to play games with you.
VR glasses *might* actually be the way to solve this but it'll be years still before we can get an acceptable combination of weight/clunkiness, performance and battery life. And even then, losing physical interfaces will be a tough sell. Voice-activated UIs are slow as fuck to operate, less accurate because language is inherently less precise than pressing buttons and very few people want to be sitting on public transport going "HEY VR-FRIEND, PLEASE REMIND ME TO BUY CREAM FOR MY ANAL FISSURE TOMORROW AT 8AM".

tl;dr: Big tech has been insisting for decades on pushing a device format that may simply be irredeemable.

>>106462628 (OP)
The thing looks like a fucking NES accessory.

Is MS the only megacorpohomo smart enough to stay away from this insta-perma-fail paradigm? Being back Ballmer so we can have a nokia headset with a keyboard for your tongue!

>>106462628 (OP)
VR is completely useless for anything besides gaming and this is a VR device without games

>>106462900
Yeah, I used Quest 3 for an hour and was just annoying how imprecise the hand controls are. Like, mouse is right there so why wouldn't I just use the mouse?

>>106462628 (OP)
VR/AR is less comfortable than looking at a conventional screen and using a nice big clicky keyboard. simple as. techbros will never understand that people don't actually want to enter the Torment Nexus unless it's got good ergonomics

>Too heavy
>External battery pack and not long enough battery life
>The eye screen thing was shit, either make it perfect or completely get rid of it
>Had to adjust it back up on my face a lot
Needs a lot of work, hopefully they fix it cause the software experience was fine

>>106462628 (OP)
vr is a mistep from people who don't know what the future is going to be. apple hasn't innovated since steve jobs died. facebook mark is a lot closer with his ar glasses. vr will not catch on as long as you have bulky retarded headgear that blinds you

>>106462941
Yes but MS also literally tried to release a gaymer table. I'm pretty sure the only places that bought these were avant-garde sushi restaurants though

>>106462976
>hopefully they fix it
anon the project is most likely axed

>>106462978
Guess it could be rad for dnd. Was that ever explored?

>>106462941
>what is hololens

>>106462992
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/13/apple-code-confirms-vision-pro-with-m5-chip/
They're still working on it

>>106462998
yes but the Surface Table was made in a time where good touchscreens were still expensive and it itself was a gimmick product mostly made to advertise the rest of the Surface line, so one unit was like 15k MSRP

I have vague memories of seeing one in a restaurant once and i think the target market actually was supposed to be cafes, gaming lounges, and nightclubs (i guess the idea is you sync your Microsoft Surface Phone to it and get music store integration and can run powerpoints to VC techbros and such)

iirc it was also supposed to have XBox Live integration so while you wouldn't like play games directly on it you'd use it to pull your save files from home or use it for the "in-game rewards app" every AAA game had at the time

>>106463023
wtf this actually looks SICK

>>106462978
>>106463040
the tragedy of MS truly is that it is a software company. every time they make (or lease production of) hardware they knock it out of the fucking park, but then anything actually running on it is complete ass

>>106463023
Shit... never even heard of it.

>>106463072
That's why their few pieces of hardware are always good, they have to actually try instead of bolting it onto Teams and getting 99% market penetration for free

>>106462941
I want them to bring back windows phone and I want windows to look like windows 8 again

>>106462628 (OP)
kys shill

>>106462628 (OP)
its still amazing to me every faggot in cupertino looked at the extremely stupid front facing screen and thought it was a good idea

maybe there's something in the water in california, makes them all retarded

Headsets are for gayming and porn. Apple doesn't have games, doesn't have porn. So they lied and said headsets were for business and coding. A couple losers chimed in saying how they work 6 hours in a headset and whatever. Turns out wageslaves don't care to spend $3k of their own money on something that has no games and no porn.

I'm sure Apple is going to sell directly to large companies next time, probably schools too, try to edge in that way. Does Apple even understand the only reason iPhone is so popular is because you get the phone for "free" with a $120/mo. 2 year contract? They should have sold the iGoggles as a $500 addon for Apple++ or something.

>>106463134
this but unironically. i was on Windows 8 until the computer running it finally died in like 2020

>>106463170
maybe thats why california has "WARNING THIS PRODUCT CAUSES DEATH" on literally everything
maybe all the wildfire smoke from the exploding eucalyptus and shit is poisoning the air worse than boomers had with lead fumes

>>106462628 (OP)
>we want a VR audience but not the audience that wants VR
Even if they shipped a fucking magic chip that instantly teleports your brain into another world, if it's locked down and this is the mentality of the product team, then the product is already dead on arrival.

>>106463134
windows 8 and 10 look pretty similar except for the honestly cancerous start menu that 0% of devs actually bothered making tiles for

>>106462628 (OP)
N

>>106462628 (OP)
Apple marketing doesnt know what Apple actually is.

Did Apple invent the smart phone, or the mp3 player, or the laptop, or handhelds?

No they just made it cool for normies. They stole it from sweaty tech nerds. They deleted all the gatekeeper bullshit nerds put on their tech. They prioritized form and easy of use over function and specs.

This did none of that. This shit is for fat tech obcessed brown nerds, not for hot White women. Thats why it failed.

>>106462641
/thread

>>106462706

It’s really this. They made hardware looking for a problem to solve instead of software that requires the hardware.

>>106463230
Nodding my head in agreement.

>>106463252
Jeets really are a godforsaken plague, almost as bad as zoomshits flooding to 4chan. If I had a nuke I'd drop it on cowshit or whatever the stinking curryniggers call their """capital""".
The fact that a subhuman jeetoit is a moderator on 4chan only shows how far this place has fallen, Never should've allowed an animal raping, shit eating, devolutioned little shitskin rat like a jeet moderate this place. Holy shit I hate these fucking animals so much its unreal, everything from their stupid fucking accents to their neighborhood polluting stench. I hope a meteor or nuke ends up remove that entire godforsaken continent and turns it into another Atlantis. At least, removed from human sight, we can imagine India as a better place, and not filled with demi-human wastesuckers as it is currently inhabited.

Please God kill ALL curryjeets and send them back to hell where they belong

>>106462900
>>106462960
They need a control scheme that allows you to control with your fingers, but easily. Some kind of glove maybe? Maybe something even less, some kind of magnetic fingertipped thing?
Then you can be on the bus, hands in your pocket, or on your lap, making subtle movements with your finger to control the screen.

Honest answer: it was dead on arrival
There was already a VR headset market, but apple circumvented that and tried to target toward their existing user base who hadn't heard of VR before, aiming for the expensive high-end hobbyist market that didn't exist because they refused to call it a "VR headset"
They alienated VR fans by offering no support for the existing game ecosystem, e.g. no ability to connect to PC with openxr or steamvr, and spun it as boring as possible, like a productivity tool which is the weirdest angle possible

>>106463402
The problem is the usage profile you allude to is completely outside of their usual target demographics.

>>106463461
>>106463230
i thought modern apple was trying to be the new "executive phone(and peripherals/services)" brand now that blackberry has basically given up on the phone market instead of just MDM shitware

>>106462628 (OP)
>buy VR
>*dies* (either from accidnets or brain cancer)

>>106462961
i am a heavy user and i only jumped through the hoops to play kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVXt9lyMmRo
for the average normaloid it is as useful as tablets and glossy surfaces on modern cars.
maybe if the thing costed 100 dollars weighted 100 grams and had perfect optics then it wouldnt filter people so hard

>>106463466
You think so? I don't think it's all that different from using a touchscreen. It'd be a mix of using a touchscreen and a mouse.
I can't see why it couldn't become as ubiquitous as either of them.

>>106463756
>RTCW
what a fucking meme game, kek what a bitch

>>106464146
>meme game
dumbass broccoliheaded zoomnigger bitch

>>106463402
The original HoloLens in 2016 had the Clicker. You would hold it in your hand, point, and click. It was pretty much mandatory because the hand tracking was god awful. I honestly wish AVP had this, because it would remove the requirement of the hand tracking at all, which is retarded. You can pair a Bluetooth controller to AVP and use the "A" button combined with your eyes to navigate around, but the controller is too big and bulky. Something like the Clicker would really be ideal.
The only downside of HoloLens was the poor graphics quality and tiny field of view. You could only see the mixed reality content from the projectors in a tiny 640x480-like window at the center of your view. With HoloLens 2 they improved it but I never tried that one, only the original.

>>106463461
>>106463338
I unfortunately bought into the whole "spatial computing" meme when it came out, because I really thought it would be good.
Now all I have is a paperweight that I only use for watching TV and movies once a week on the weekend. Don't get me wrong, it's by far the best TV and movie experience I've had, but... really? This is all it can do?
It's not a "computer" at all no matter how much Apple markets it to be. It's a fucking VR iPad, completely locked down and only has 1-2 usecases. Gaming and productivity are not either of them. Computers are only real computers if they have a terminal and can compile and run programs, with no restrictions or workarounds.

All this time I was looking for the wrong things. HoloLens, AVP, they are all approaching from the wrong perspective. The true solution for "spatial computing" is running X11 or Wayland on a PC with the VR headset as the output. This way you can run both 2D and 3D apps in a complete VR workspace. And you actually have a terminal and a compiler, instead of retarded locked down proprietary Apple bullshit. SimulaVR (X11) and WXRD (Wayland) are the two main examples.
>https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula
>https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xrdesktop/wxrd

>>106462871
Many would agree that: "Apple drones are the most pathetic people."

>>106464146
shut up nazi

>>106464272
the only worse game in the series is enemy territory and thats a fact

>>106464282
???

there's no "series". RTCW is the only wolfenstein game ever made and enemy territory is MP kino

the stuff made by swecucks decades later are elaborate scams and non canon

>>106464335
>zoomer obsessed with nostalgiafagging doesn't know about the 80s/90s games
why am i not surprised that even trying so hard to look cool you still obsess over the (2nd) worst one KEK WHAT A BITCH

>>106464353
Nobody gives a SHIT about oldnigger wolfenstein

>>106464353
tetris doesnt count

>>106462628 (OP)
Not usable for your mudda...

>>106464375
>tetris but you kill nazis
would be kino if modern tetris weren't lsd fueled Art House Hell already

>>106462656
/thread

>>106462941
Ballmer is unironically based tho. I fucking missed his crazy antics on the stage. Like where else can you find a CEO that is crazy enough like him? Current Pajeet CEO doesn't even hold a candle to him.

>>106463700
This is why glass tables are made out of tempered glass.

>>106462628 (OP)
Why is she brown?

>>106464252
The retarded part is that if it wasn't so locked down I bet people would have hacked together a bunch of cool shit.

Apple forgot it's humble beginnings once again.

>>106464808
apples goal is to build a software platform, not an open one

I as a dev seem to get better sales when I dont have any freeware competitors, that'll be $15 for simple QOL tools, please

>>106464718
all advertising today is projective and prophetic, don't call it a grave

>>106462628 (OP)
VR makes pussy dry

>>106464718
She can afford one. Get back to work.

If they actually wrapped this in a pair of prescription glasses everyone already wears then it would be popular but who wants to wear battery powered goggles all day

>>106462656
You'd look goofy as hell wearing that thing on your face lmao

>>106465377
lol no, she can't

>>106465385
Post yours.

>>106462628 (OP)
Wasn't as cool as Labubu

>>106462628 (OP)
>Bad marketing
>No controllers
>Not Linux
>No compatibility with anything, regardless of whether we're talking hardware or software
>No way to tie into the greater VR ecosystem
>Not usable as a development platform
>Locked down
>Shit ergonomics, basically just a movie prop
>Useless eye display that only looks "good" from one marketing angle
>No software, no games
>Overpriced
It was a 2011 headset being released in 2024 at an Apple pricepoint.
>>106462941
The fuck are you talking about? Windows Mixed Reality is a thing, it's just that MS after 2007 can't support any tech they acquire for longer than a few years without shitting themselves.
>>106463072
The tragedy of Microsoft is that they're fucking Microsoft. Even the Kinect got more niche appreciation away from them.
>>106463181
>Warning: The absolute state of California has been known to cause cancer

>>106465385
What color is your Vision Pro anon?

>>106465392
>>106465745
my techbuxx can get me just about anything, but I am not a fag to buy itoddler shit.

>>106462656
The negress is funny, it ain't that deep bro.

>>106462656
apple sucks and your a retard for white knighting it it is that deep bro

>>106464252
>The true solution for "spatial computing" is running X11 or Wayland on a PC with the VR headset as the output.
Imagine spinning the Compiz cube on this thing...

>>106465383
>goofy
>>106465883
>that deep bro
>>106467302
>that deep bro
holy samejeet zoomoid

They knew VR sucked and no-one liked it but thought that selling it as a different concept would work without understanding why no-one liked VR and why it sucks.
VR is actually great by the way but no-one fucking cares.

>>106465385
She can, with welfare money from your tax dollars.

>>106462961
I'd imagine god himself likes to use VR whenever humans look up to the sky

>>106462628 (OP)
>market to black folx
>black folx just get it with a 100% discount

>>106462628 (OP)
They can’t make anything good enough for this use case cheap enough for normies yet so the userbase isn’t there yet
Also nobody likes Apple’s capricious App Store enforcement so basically nobody is itching to make stuff for it
Also cameras that shoot two 4K or 8K video streams and look like a pair of eyes were just released like last year and there’s maybe one or two models total
If you ask me it hasn’t gone, so it can’t go wrong yet
>>106465580
I could have sworn they added support for headset controllers at least by visionOS 26 coming out in a couple weeks

>>106462941
>Surface
>Windows 8
>AI

>>106462628 (OP)
>We want the globohomo audience

>>106462628 (OP)
When the level of "tech review" of apple products is that the OS is "like IpadOS, but made of glass" you know your designers are in a bubble and won't keep up with the industry standard.

>>106471328
when did UI fags take over to the such an extent that tech is now all about new coats of paint and layout preexisting elements.

No one wants to imagine themselves looking like a jeetnog while using something I guess

>>106462628 (OP)
>$3000k porn helmet
Naaah

>>106470496
i made
>>106465383
>>106467302

but not
>>>106465883