Thread 106465571

Host the planet edition.

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READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn (embed) (embed)
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS

>>106465571 (OP)
Sweet setup OP, made me want to doxx myself as well

>>106459789
>>TIL they removed the crab.
The RTL8125B (no G) still has it. Suspiciously cheap 2.5G cards on AliExpress and such are usually this chip. The original, large RTL8125 should be hard to find, which is good because it performs like ass and has compatibility issues (not as bad as early i-225V's, but still).

RTL8125 (large package, crab) >>106458690
RTL8125B (small package, low power, crab) pic related
RTL8125BG (also small, low power, no crab) >>106458677

>>106465853
It's really not mine. My entire setup consists of a Orange Pi 5 sitting in a drawer.

Amuse me for a second /hsg/
Is the Intel X520 and it's chip just going to live forever? It's been 16 years now.
I bought a Sonnet thunderbolt 3 10G NIC and it's an Intel 82599 NIC inside, they still sell this with the same NIC.
The seemingly legit looking X520 I got from ebay was made in 2019

Are these ever going to be dropped from the Linux/BSD kernel? Or are they so well understood and bug free you can still use them decades from now?

This is pure sex

Why dont they make this as a NAS? Only the 6 bay

>>106466565
Nevermind they do, but without the sexy handles, SAD!

Is there a way to automate the distribution of local SSL certificates among all devices and browsers on a local network? I already took care of HTTPS setup for my public xxx.com domain using letsencrypt and certbot, but how about a local xxx.lan domain? I know how to create local certs, but I don't want to have to import them manually on every device and browser I have, it's too much of a pain in the ass. Is there a way to automate this? Or am I overthinking it and should stick to HTTP instead? I'm running Debian 13 with pihole as default DNS for the whole network, and my machines include Linux, Windows and Android phones.

>>106465853
I wish I had a full server cabinet, but I'm pretty fine with my little 10" rack so far.

Disk shelves are fucking expensive. Over $300 for a 20 year old backplane inside a metal box with just 15 slots.
You can get an entire supermicro server, 2U, complete with mobo/cpu/ram for around the same price. It's just 12 slot instead of 15. What the fuck.

>>106466105
Got a bunch of those cards, small package, surprisingly reliable.

>>106466647
This is what a certificate authority is for. Sign all your https certs with a CA and import it manually on each device once.

>>106465571 (OP)
just upgraded to proxmox 9 and PBS 4.
other than the installer grenading grub and me having to mount the EFI partition and reinstall, it's gone fine.

don't really get what happened but whatever. I caught it before rebooting so didn't have to crawl under the desk and plug in the IPMI port so how mad can I be really?

>>106465853
damn this and the OP is crazy. I want to be there.

You guys have cool stuff. I need a bigger house.

>>106467616
>grub
I hate grub so much I learned to use efibootmgr

>>106466494
>>106465853
I don't really get why people even want to run rack gear in the home.

I get enough exposure to noisy rack gear being in comms room or setting up gear before I take it to the customer to install.

I have a mikrotik switch inside my TV cabinet and a single ATX Supermicro.

I got my RAM in and the BMC is blinking
Time to touch the power pins...

>>106467695
You really should rotate those heatsinks 90º.

>>106467695
I might get one of these too. I replaced my i5 3570k rig with AM5 finally and I still have the leftover gfx card..

>>106467679
To quote someone, "Nerds don't want all this professional grade stuff to do something with it, we just wanna waste time"
It's fun to play around with the stuff that's normally "behind the curtain".

>>106467723
That would require redesigning the brackets, I'm probably capable of doing that but I'm also more likely to just to get noctuas if I get a new job

Everything seems to be detected and working.
For some reason both the BIOS and IPMI is fucking ancient.

>install new nvme
>put zfs on it
>already 130GB written after just a few days
bros wtf

>>106467977
>copyright 2015
jesus
also that's a sick keyboard

>>106466647
how do you create local certs? i've been trying to host simplex on localhost bit caddy from docker compose always fails

>>106468100
openssl?

>>106468002
trust btrfs

How much ram should I allocate to a vm that is used only for a samba server? Is 4gb enough or can I get away with less? The vm is running debian with xfce because I figured why not but I guess I could use something more lightweight instead.

>>106459801
>Just hold them or are you CI/CD'ing?
Just cloning/diffing
But that's a 2.2GB repo, using sqlite and running off an USB stick so YMMV

>>106468276
>How much ram should I allocate to a vm that is used only for a samba server? Is 4gb enough or can I get away with less?
i have a bananapi r3 mini that operates as a samba server as well as a fuckton of other things and it only has 2gb of ram

>>106467652
>efibootmgr
I hate efibootmgr so much I learned to use portable ZFSbootmenu.

>>106465571 (OP)
I am feeling the weakness of my lil' Chinese N100 nas board already.
I want some dedicated horsepower for my home server, I was tinkering with buying one of the Aliexpress re-listings of a minisforum mitx board, what're the chances it will give everything in my house pc-aids?
Price-point appears to resemble what the sold out refurb units were going for on the minisforums official storefront.
If you have any other suggestions it needs to be an mItx form factor board - I want to make a 4U mItx multi-motherboard mount for the 10" server rack form factor, I think it would be neat.

>>106469026
are you planning on sticking anything pcie in it?

>>106469055
Thats kind of why I wanted it, the PCIE 5.0 x 16 slot is really nice, I could toss any modern Pcie hardware into it I want, so it could be flexible with my needs.

sorry for a basic question, i'm only starting to get into serving, is it better to fill drives one by one or spread the files (somewhat) evenly between them?

>>106469087
>PCIE 5.0 x 16
You are never going to need that.

>>106468013
I actually have two of them just because I like the feel of them.
The BIOS and BMC is updated now atleast and I have feature parity with my other Supermicro X10 board. You literally cannot use the KVM on a modern system without updating because Java will refuse to run the applet it originally shipped with.

>>106469088
How many drives do you have and how big?

>>106469099
he could be putting a 5090 in it, although given he's looking at lower pricepoints it doesn't seem likely

>>106469110
planning to get 3 drives 4 tb each
want to build a general jellyfin media server and also store game installers that i got from gog

>>106469099
>>106469120
I wanted to snag an Intel B60, was originally planning on trying for one of the Dual GPU's until I found out they're going to go for ~$1500, the cheaper board with budget friendly everything else helps me justify going all out on ram, GPU (or other accessories), etc.

>>106465571 (OP)
So now that I have a homelab, I have servers for all the games I play for my wife and friends, we have self-hosted Jellyfin at a quality that surpasses any streaming service, we have self-hosted music streaming with literally every single album we could think of, we have an e-book server that has more books than any of us could feasibly read in decades, we have self-hosted wikipedia and wikis for random things so we can look up anything and we even have self-hosted Deepseek, I feel like I barely even use the internet anymore. When the internet goes down we barely notice because all of our entertainment and 99% of the stuff we use for learning or work is running out of an old server in the closet. I can't believe just a few years ago I was paying for multiple streaming services, over $100 a month, and constantly being annoyed at them removing shows that I enjoyed. This is truly the end for me, I don't know what I could ever possibly need that I would need to pay a giant internet company for ever again. I feel... fully content.

>>106469120
pretty sure a 5090 never uses 16 lanes of pcie-5. I haven't seen benchmarks to prove it but it's been a theme for many generations now that you don't need that bus for video cards. there's other limiting factors in their performance.

>>106469123
How important is your data going to be?
You could do a Raid0 - all data is striped across your 3 drives, so you'll have one large "drive", and accessing data from it will be faster because its pulling data from across the 3 drives at once. (You probably don't need this currently, your hardware elsewhere is likely going to bottleneck you)
However, if any 1 drive fails, all of your data is corrupted, no backups.
Raid1 will create a mirror (in this case 1 or 2)
So you will have your original files, which will automatically be cloned to your mirror drives.
If a drive fails, you still have a copy of your data.

If you had one more 4tb HDD you could do Raid 1+0
You would have a set of drives that are stripped, with a mirror set of drives that are also stripped. Boosted transfer speeds, and a backup.

You could also alternatively look into mergerfs
It will let you combine multiple drives into one pseudo-drive, I don't believe it stripes the data, just stores files across multiple drives but lets you access them in one location, if that makes sense. If a drive failed you would still have access to the files on the drives that are working.

>>106469120
>>106469184
The only realistic use of Gen5 x16 is 4-way bifurcation with Gen5 SSDs.
Not that it matters anyway; unless you have perfect copyless I/O going on, you'd be slamming into the system RAM bandwidth limit way before saturating the 16 lanes (~63GB/s).

>>106467326
You don't(and probably never will) need a full rack. A full rack is for businesses and/or people who have money and time to throw away.
>>106467633
W-what do you want to do in my office?
>>106467679
I don't want to run it in my home, hence no blinking lights. I just moved and don't have a better place to put the rack yet, going to be buying a garage soon.
But I AM actually using it for business purposes(and the ~$7k(I think) in it was written off). Renting a cloud server cluster until I can get the rack back online.

>>106469165
Based, this is my end goal too. I've been tinkering a bit in my spare time for a while but I just got my first "production ready" iteration of a server up and running. It's a little janky since I tried to reuse old hardware I had laying around as much as possible, but it works. I got a small form factor optiplex at my grandma's house running as an NVR recorder for some security cameras, and another box hidden away upstairs as a NAS to store the footage. I also use it for remote backups of my media collection, and I plan to also use the NAS as a torrent seeding box.

Eventually I'll probably buy some kind of small system to run as a torrent box at home (and maybe a minecraft server too), and keep grandma's NAS just for remote backups. Baby steps...

Also it seems your pepe was slightly cropped. Here, have the original.

Has anyone sold bigger servers here on eBay and was it worth it over trying to sell locally? I have some older servers I'm trying to sell to get some other equipment

>>106467616
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_8_to_9#GRUB_Might_Fail_To_Boot_From_LVM_in_UEFI_Mode
and
There were documents about grub.
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_8_to_9#Systemd-boot_meta-package_changes_the_bootloader_configuration_automatically_and_should_be_uninstalled and

and if you used the provided script pve8to9 it probably would have warned you too.

>>106468330
Maybe the USB, same as the OS, right?

Jesus Christ it's being a pain to find a cheap and good Mini ITX components. Last time I made one it was half the current prices. Then again it was many years ago.

>>106467463
So there's always going to be a manual certificate import involved? Fucking hell. Why can't it be like the letsencrypt certs, that are automatically accepted and recognized? Is it because they are a known and trusted entity?

>>106468100
>how do you create local certs?
I've been using mkcert and it just werks

Does anyone have experience buying a wall mount rack cabinet? I am looking for something to hold my network gear in a closet, I was considering this but not sure of what other options are out there: https://www.legrand.us/critical-power-and-infrastructure/cabinets/server-and-network-cabinets/8ru-vertical-wall-mount-cabinet-split-door-42-in-h/p/vwmsd-8ru-42-b

I was looking into options for NASs on a budget but I've been getting quite annoyed by a few factors mostly being cost per drive and raid.

I'm at the cusp of saying fuck it, removing the internal battery of my T460, sitting it on its dock permanently with life support, attaching a couple 4~8 TB drives (not sure if to have RAID as I will probably have it on clamshell, wake up from LAN and turn off when not needed) and making that my NAS.

I looked at the power usage and it doesn't seem too bad from the image?

Is this a bad idea or should I look into investing into a shitty NAS or looking at the local CEX for some mini PCs?

>>106469099
Unironically the most annoying thing about AM5 server boards
Give me 2x 5.0 x8 slots instead.
Wasting an x16 slot on an x8 SSD is a ballache

Lads, which are quieter, WD Red Plus, Ironwolf (regular) or Toshiba N300?
Looking at 8TB models if that matters.

>>106467679
>I don't really get why people even want to run rack gear in the home.
If police-sims and crime shows taught me anything, it's that people who have racks in their home usually distribute 'za.

>>106471326
either stay with that laptop and attach some storage to it or go all-in and build a server. don't bother with mini PCs, you'll probably end up with a dead end motherboard with little upgrade routes.

I would not switch off the laptop though, part of it is setting up automation and forgetting it even exists, if you're switching it on and off every day - what's the point? just watch on your desktop then

with the cost of drive - what I did is get enough storage to get me by for the short term (I actually just reused old 1TB drives) and wait for deals on good, big drives. ended up buying 3x 20TB Toshiba drives a couple of months later when they were around £12-14/ TB price mark

>>106471734
I have both a WD Red and Ironwolf and I can tell you the Ironwolf is a bit noisier, but not by much. Toshiba drives are all noisy.

>>106472291
How noisy would you say they are in the first place?
My NAS currently is composed of a hodgepodge of 2.5" SSDs and HDDs and I can't hear it at all when they're idleing or I have headphones on or I'm in the next room over.

>>106472332
>How noisy
Have you ever heard a hard drive from the 90s? Toshiba never improved the noise levels.

>>106470468
>same as the OS, right?
No, I'm using Alpine in RAM
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Diskless_Mode
But yeah the USB probably doesn't help with lots of small random writes, I'm also seeing 100% CPU usage so I don't really know where the bottleneck really is. But it's good enough for my use case and I only sync that repo once a day anyway.
Normal use for my projects is pretty seamless.
My only gripe with forgejo so far is that it's a bit of a pain to rice.

>>106472586
Sorry, I meant the WD Reds, I haven't used regular HDDs in 10 years now.

>>106472880
Red/Red Plus is still the classic "Caviar" design, so they should be fairly quiet assuming the firmware doesn't have PWL enabled (the clicking while idle thing).
Ironwolf drives have a slightly louder idle, you can hear when they're on close by. Barracudas are dead silent, but, you know, SMR.
All of them are silent if you put them in standby while not in use, of course.

>>106473197
I currently have 8TB total split into multiple 2TB and 1TB SSDs but I'm slowly running out of space.
I was planning on getting a 8TB WD Red to move my less accessed files to and free up some space, but the 16TB Ironwolfs have a better price/TB ratio where I live.
But apart from the difference in makes (like you mentioned) I also noticed the 16TB ones are 7200RPM as opposed to 5640 on the 8TB WD Red, I assume that'd make them even louder, yeah?

>>106473649
>16TB
Sorry I have no experience with Ironwolf Pro drives, but I would expect them to be a bit louder than the non-Pro versions.
High performance/capacity anything always requires a sacrifice, either price, noise or power consumption.

>>106465571 (OP)
If your servers uptime is less than 311 days, lower your tone when speaking to me.

>>106473875
How many unpatched holes?

>>106473887
Doesn't matter because the server isn't accessible outside of my home network.

>>106473951
uh mmm uh if your server isn't accessible outside of your home network lower your tone when when speaking to me
huhhuhh

>>106473982
Check your tone, boy.

What's the cheapest used machine I can buy that supports ECC RAM? I'm wanting to make a NAS.

>>106474706
who told you ECC was needed for a NAS?

>>106474726
I'm very paranoid about data loss.

>>106474758
being mentally ill does tend to get expensive

>>106474798
>le mentally ill
Nice meme.

>>106470751
>Why can't it be like the letsencrypt certs, that are automatically accepted and recognized
Imagine connecting to a public wifi network and someone installs a new CA on your phone transparently. Now they can redirect any traffic to google or youtube straight to their own domains and you won't even see an unsigned cert error because it's "signed" by the CA they installed on your phone without you knowing.
If you want to make it easy you can setup a sign in portal with your local wifi that opens a domain.local/cert page to download and install the cert whenever a new mac address connects to wifi.

>>106474804
*being stupid does tend to get expensive

>>106474820
What's stupid about wanting ECC RAM? I've lost files due to RAM bitflips before.

>>106468415
>samba server as well as a fuckton of other things
I'm curious. What other stuff, anon, if you don't mind? I always thought these days 2GB wouldn't hold many things, I guess they are all running on-demand?

I'm using OPNsense any ideas how I can set it up to use my Pixel 7 Phone USB-C connection as the WAN?

Pic related I can find it connected through SSH "ifconfig -a" command but it doesn't show up in Interfaces > Assignments

>>106474842
>I'm curious. What other stuff, anon, if you don't mind?
Besides the samba server, it also hosts a uhttpd server with php support, a dropbear ssh server, and a python flask api

>>106475016
did you try doing the assignment from the shell? I think it lets you type the interface you want to use.

>>106475123
Nice. Pretty lightweight stuff, I guess that's warranted.

>>106474837
>I've lost files due to RAM bitflips before.
It's more likely your drives were bad.

why don't openbsd support docker
i will killm yself

>>106475394
BSD can't into namespaces. Enjoy your jails, I guess.

>>106466647
why not just also get a private yyy.com domain and use it on your lan

>>106466647
>>106475474
This. Use DNS-01 method, set the domain as the primary name and internal IPs/names as alternate names and just use the certs in your LAN.

what's the best bang-for-your-buck single board computer for about $100 right now?

>>106475591
anything with an intel n100, doesn't even have to be an SBC

>>106475591
What is your use case? Do you prioritize low power? Do you want x86? Tiny form factor or ITX? Lots of RAM or can get away with little? Doing AI shit? Home application server? NAS?
You just sound like someone who wants to spend $100 because they can. If that's the case just buy a Raspberry Pi 5 and extras and leave them in the drawer when you're done like all the other morons.

>>106475728
>>106475739
well, just curious really. I have a Raspberry Pi 3 going right now that does its job as a low-power NAS, seeder box, and pi-hole. I might be interested in one more powerful to run a (local) Minecraft server on.

>>106470119
yeah I ran it. made some adjustments and it came back clear prior to me doing the actual upgrade (other than me leaving my firewall and pihole VMs running).

>>106475591
I think the mini pcs are better.
they're under 100 used (well under if you get an old one) and they pull around 10w at idle).

I don't really understand the raspberry pi obsession. I have one running mainsail to control my ender 3 and it gets hot just downloading new packages with apt.

>>106475876
how many m.2 slots does your mini pc have?

>>106473875
>not automating quarterly updates
Service uptime is a flex. Server uptime is what brainlets think service uptime is.

>>106476020
>he doesn't live patch his kernel
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Server uptime is also a flex, poorfag. It means you have stable power sources, hardware in good condition, good air quality & temps, etc.

>>106475893
I have an old 8th gen i3 dell one and it has a 2.5" slot and either sata or m.2 slot.

newer ones are probably all m.2. it just runs plex and youtube on my TV so I don't need any fancy shit

>>106476048
All those things you're "flexing" are bare minimum in 1st world countries. I wouldn't even consider flexing good air quality kek
Server uptime means nothing anymore because you should never have a single point of failure. Live patching kernels doesn't mean shit if you're taking down services for patching anyway.
Again, you don't know the difference between system uptime and service uptime. Your unpatched LAMP stack cooled 21% oxygenated air doesn't impress anyone.

>>106476048
how are you doing it? I know red hat does but even some based on red hat don't even enable it

is there any reason to use 3.5" over 2.5" HDDs for backups? requiring an extra power adapter sounds annoying.

>>106476352
Smaller size and 5V power only is good for some use cases but
>limited capacity (may or may not be an issue depending on how much backup capacity you need)
>2.5" is usually SMR (may or may not be an issue but it also makes data recovery much more difficult/impossible in case of hardware failure)
>2.5" tends to be less mechanically reliable leading to more hardware failures
2.5" is by no means "avoid at all costs" tier bad but it has its limitations.

>>106476048
>>106476133
I'll admit, my intent in asking this was to not get an answer because you're not doing it.

>>106474706
Get any 3785r atom motherboard system for ECC support. Most new Intels require w680 MB's to get ECC.

For cheap, I recommend you get an AM4 pro motherboard and a AMD 5650G Pro that supports ECC. CPU ($75) + MB ($75) but you need Unbuffered ECC ram rather than the much cheaper and omnipresent ECC R dims.

Or you can spend more and do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc5FiEWdgpw

I would do the latter if lazy and retarded.

>>106465853
Sweet, but are you deaf in one ear now?

>>106475728
just get the cheapest chink NUC you can find used, they go for about 100$ new nowadays on Ali so cheaper than a fucking raspberry and several times more performant while sipping power.

>>106476131
>I wouldn't even consider flexing good air quality kek
Well then idk where you live but I'm in Texas and I need to clean my servers quite often due to the dust buildup
>Server uptime means nothing anymore because you should never have a single point of failure
Those two concepts are not mutually exclusive. If all servers in your cluster have years of uptime, that's good.
>Live patching kernels doesn't mean shit if you're taking down services for patching anyway.
Again, you're confusing different concepts. You drain the server, live-patch, then reintegrate the server. This should ideally be automated and with enough of a gap between servers for you to monitor their health and verify the patch works properly in your environment.
>Again, you don't know the difference between system uptime and service uptime
I sure do, bud. Your cluster should tolerate server downtime, but downtime is only necessary when hardware fails.
>>106476133
TuxCare
>>106476523
I'm not doing ALL the things I mentioned, but I do livepatch my kernels.

>>106476994
>drain the server
always wondered if this was a common term

>>106476352
I've lost so many 2.5" drives that I would personally always recommend against them. not to mention plugging in a power adapter is significantly more convenient that the 2.5" write times not even factoring in reliability.

>>106476994
>TuxCare
I see, similar to rhel it's a paid thing for rhel based distros. weird why not just use rhel? is it cheaper?

>>106476994
>Well then idk where you live but I'm in Texas and I need to clean my servers quite often due to the dust buildup
You're making things sound worse by the minute.
>If all servers in your cluster have years of uptime, that's good.
No, it's definitely not good. I bring in contractors for projects all the time, anyone flexing server uptime instead of service uptime goes to the bottom of the pile immediately. Server uptime is archaic and only useful in mainframe architecture because they're stuck in a pre HA world where server uptime IS service uptime. If a contractor can't tell the difference they're not worth my time.
If you have a system with 1 year uptime my first question is why haven't you rebooted it. If the answer is uptime, you lose. If your answer is we just live patch everything, you lose. If your answer is the customer can't afford a service downtime and refuses to make it highly available it's justified. Live patching kernel upgrades is not as good as rhel/suse/canonical makes it out to be.
>You drain the server, live-patch, then reintegrate the server.
Live patch is ALWAYS inferior to a patch+reboot. If you can afford a reboot you take it every time. If you can't afford a reboot it's because you're either not highly available and the system uptime becomes a factor in the service uptime, or you know for a fact every single part of a kernel upgrade is hot patchable. Different patching SOPs based on kernel versions is a whole 'nother can of worms though.
I get that you're using live patch as a crutch argument because it's the only way to justify high system uptime but service uptime is all that matters, system uptime has been decoupled from service uptime for a long time now.
>Your cluster should tolerate server downtime, but downtime is only necessary when hardware fails
Absolutely your cluster should tolerate server downtime. Downtime isn't measured in necessity it's measured in acceptability and usually from the perspective of an application.

People with netapp shelves, do you think replacing my normal drive caddy's with printed ones that have much more ventilation will result in lower drive temps and the fans not being so aggressive? The normal caddies only breathe through the small finger hole in the front for the release latch, so I'm wondering if a far less restrictive caddy will help the fans not have to go berserk to draw enough air to keep everything cool and so can hopefully be slower and quieter.

What is the new good babbys 1st ex enterprise server, or is it still the r720?

>>106465571 (OP)
Anyone here use solar to power their home server equipment? I've recently been going down a Google algo hole on the subject of solar and found out that they already make giant backup batteries that are easy to charge via solar that slot right into standard 19" racks.

>>106470905
i hate everyone in this thread you are all useless and RETARDED. rot in hell furfags

>>106478335
Yes, I do. I power my router, modem, laptops and homemade server — Z270 Prime with 16GB RAM 276TB of storage running Jellyfin and Qbittorent.

>>106479293
Ohhhh, forgot to mention 6700K

>mini-pc with arr stack
>everything is talking to each other and downloads shit and it just werks
Feels really good fellas. Shame lidarr is broken right now
Copyparty has already seen a ton of use and I watched two movies after not watching any for like 2 years.

>>106466647
https://github.com/linsomniac/lessencrypt

>>106470905
it's good but make sure it's secured well to the studs, especially if you have a lot in there

>test torrent speed
>literally 10x higher on my non-docker/vm machine on the same torrent
>turns out i never needed to have qbittorrent in the docker anyway? maybe?
oops

>>106465571 (OP)
I thank all of you for keeping in your servers the most niche and stupid bullshit for me to randomly find on torrents, doing gods work for me not wanting to keep shit on my pc (500 gb ssd)

Is HTTPS worth it for services in my LAN which can also be accessed remotely via Wireguard? In this setup, plain text traffic can be seen only by devices that are physically at home, right? But if my LAN is compromised, then the web server being plain HTTP is probably the least of my concerns anyway?

But even if the above is true, let's say I wanted to use Let's Encrypt certs (just to try something different, as I've already went the route of generating my own certs and adding the root CA to the trusted CAs on Windows and Android), I suppose I would need a domain, and could use the DNS challenge to prove ownership and would get a "proper" cert. Then the main trouble I see would be the DNS resolution. I can have records pointing to LAN IPs and that would probably just work 99% of time, but then suppose Internet connectivity goes down, I still want to be able to access my stuff over LAN when I'm at home, but now DNS resolution will fail. On Android, I'm using adblock.dns.mullvad.net as the resolver for the ad blocking benefits, so would I need to run my own resolver that has my LAN hosts hardcoded, and delegates to mullvad as the upstream? Or do I just set a very high TTL on the A records and hope it'll stay in Android's cache long enough until Internet connectivity comes back?

>>106481839
>would I need to run my own resolver that has my LAN hosts hardcoded, and delegates to mullvad as the upstream?
that's how it's normally done, yeah

One of my co-workers posts here constantly and has a very expensive setup, but is also like incredibly obese, morbidly, even.

Hes also an iToddler. Just wanted you guys to know an ultra fat itoddler is among you.

AAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>106481839
use ssh bridges for ez and secure connections.

>>106481839
>>106481839
How I do it is basically I have cloudflare edge protecting it on the internet, but I also have a VPN bypass that bypasses cloudflare's file transfer transfer limits and so on.

The internal DNS server is accessible over the VPN and it resolves it to the private IP, but if I'm on the public internet, it uses cloudflare.

To connect the public stuff to CF, I use CF tunnels.

I use a Lets Encrypt cert so it's valid for both.

>>106482350
All of my coworkers are redditors, lucky you

>>106482351
And now i accidentally booted myself off off ssh GG wp

>>106482437
what happens during your ISP's outages? you get no DNS resolution at all on your mobile devices, or do you have some sort of public resolver fallback set up?

Currently have a 5600x and it's perfectly adequate for my truenas. Should I get a 5700g while they are relatively cheap and available? Getting two cores is nice, but mostly I was just thinking about it for the igpu so I don't need a gt710 taking up a whole slot just for the purpose of being able to use the terminal just in case it's needed

Are SATA's unrecoverable read errors still an issue with modern filesystems like ZFS? Do I need to pay the SAS tax to build a >100TB storage server?

>>106485026
ZFS doesn't care it's a URE, it only cares if it can't read. SAS won't help you.

>>106484847
>AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
> 8 Cores
>16 Threads
>65 W TDP
>3.8 GHz Frequency
>4.6 GHz Boost
AMD APUs are one of my favorite things. I regularly play with them without GPU. If they are cheap, I think it's a good investment

is 7 vlans to many?
>management
>users
>DNS
>IOT
>ip cameras
>public facing
>DMZ (reverse proxy so I can scan unencrypted packets headed to public)
I have no guests. if I did they can IOT it like normies. any way to simplify this?

>>106486654
Yes.

>>106486205
Currently 165 on amazon, they'll probably be cheaper if I wait till black friday or christmas but I kinda doubt they'll be THAT significantly discounted. Also forgot to mention that pcie3 is ok, all of my cards and nvmes are 3 or 3.1 so nbd.

I asked this a few days ago but either didn't get a reply or went to bed early

>have 2nd PC acting as home server/Plex
>harddrives set up in RAID 1 (2x20TB), nearly full
>want to expand storage
do I just get 2x drives and set those up RAID 1?

or should I just get a 3rd drive and not RAID it at all?

is it worth RAIDing non-critical media? yeah it'd suck to lose it, but it's 99% tv shows and movies I could re-get within a week or two.

and should I pony up the extra money for NAS drives or just shuck a $250 external drive and use that till it fails?

is there a max amount of drives I can have installed on a Windows PC?

>>106465571 (OP)
anyone else using this lil fucker as homeserver?

>>106465571 (OP)

How to setup a network that I can access a large amount of drives (16+) from a linux distro. I'm looking to setup multiple 8+ drive bays/cases interlinked by fiber. Is this SAN territory?

>>106486654
lmao i have >26 dont be a fucking pussy
>>106486734
gimme that fruit cup

>>106487269
Your setup explanation raises more questions than it answers.
>I'm looking to setup multiple 8+ drive bays/cases interlinked by fiber.
Are you putting 8+ drives in a raid array? Are you doing this one multiple machines or just one? What does fiber have to do with this?

>>106487187
>do I just get 2x drives and set those up RAID 1?
You can but they'll be separate RAID arrays with separate mount points. You could convert your current mirror to RAID 5 and add the extra drives. Or make your array RAID 10 but you'll lose half your storage for mirroring data. It depends on if you care about having separate mount points or not.
>is it worth RAIDing non-critical media? yeah it'd suck to lose it
You should have backups if you want to avoid losing data. If you don't care then all RAID will do is buy you time to fix the problem but eventually WILL fail you.
>and should I pony up the extra money for NAS drives
Just shuck drives
>is there a max amount of drives I can have installed on a Windows PC
I'm pretty sure you're limited by physical sata ports or your power supply before you get soft capped by windows.

>>106487269
>looking to setup multiple 8+ drive bays/cases interlinked by fiber
Do you have an actual reason for wanting to do that this way, or do you just not know how to properly approach the problem and this is the first thing you thought of?

This thing doesn't support NVMe booting
REEEEEEEEE

Where are my GPU server friends???

>>106487520
saw this on plebbit, where can i get this?

/sqt/ referred me to /hsg/ for this question.
Want to start seeding 6TB+ of stuff. 24/7, long term. Need to buy new disks. Which is best for the purpose?

>SSDs
most expensive, but perfectly suited to long term random reads, no physical wear and tear, no noise, no excess power draw
>3.5" HDD (8-10TB, a NAS/Enterprise one)
cheap, but noisy, uses more power, and I worry about the it not being suited to the job. Tons of simultaneous small random reads. Those arms and heads are gonna be working really fucking hard.
>2.5" HDDs
BONUS = I already have some. So I don't have to buy them. I am using them for something else, so I will need to replace them for that purpose. But I wanted to do that anyway, for their current purpose I wanted to switch to SSDs.
But how do 2.5" HDDs stack up against SSDs and 3.5" for long term 24/7 seeding of 6TB+ comprising of a lot of different files? Are they the worst of both worlds? Or the perfect middle ground? I would have them in RAID so the workload will be split between them. Same with the SSDs. A big 3.5" HDD would probably fly solo for now, until I get more shit to seed.

>>106487747
>Want to start seeding
Why?

>>106487747
What's our expected IO usage from this? Seeding doesn't usually need much from your disks unless you're seeding extremely popular shit that for some reason has very few seeders other than you. I seed tens of terabytes of shit from my HDD raid array and it uses a tiny fraction of the available IO. SSDs are almost certainly overkill.

>>106487269
>>106487445

I need to sanitize drives in a large quantity, and need a way to setup a modular system that is expandable, handles wiping as needed. Literally, I need to switch drives out after wiping, while having a larger enough capacity per wipe session.

I know there's drive bay modules, just don't know how they all connect. I must grok.

>>106487798
Connect a USB hub to a raspberry pi for that. You need basically no bandwidth to wipe a drive.

>>106487791
Hard to say because
1. I haven't started yet, I need the storage to do it
2. Situation might change soon anyway, might get faster internet
3. Don't want to dox myself by talking about my typical speeds for other stuff. But perhaps we can call it 'low' by veteran and 'pro' seeder standards.

I'm a fucking retard when it comes to Linux. I've got Proxmox set up and a fileserver/plex/etc through Portainer. It works fine, the only problem is that whenever the server restarts I have to go in and manually re-mount the disks (there are two, in a raid 0 setup) before the containers will work. What file(s) do I need to change to automatically mount them on boot? Right now I'm just hitting
>mount UUID=[drives] /srv

>>106487587
My X10DAX supports booting from NVMe
I have the supermicro 2x NVMe adapter card
and I enabled bifurcation

You might also need to update the BIOS and make sure you are in UEFI mode (tons of options I had to mess around with them)

>>106487876
I mean this in the nicest way, but your question is pretty much perfect to go type into Claude, you even give the right amount of detail. Go ask AI

>>106487876
Modify /etc/fstab

>>106487587
You could work around that using another drive (even a flash drive) with rEFInd and a UEFI NVMe driver.
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/765738/how-do-i-boot-from-an-nvme-disk-without-bios-support

>>106487798
Well fortunately you won't need a storage network or fiber anything for that. What you're looking for in those drive bay modules is called a backplane. They let you slot in a bunch of drives into a single board that distributes power and has data over a single cable to an HBA or LSI RAID card. You can look for jbod or das on ebay and find what you want but they're absurdly expensive for having no compute power.
You're probably better off with a few dual drive toasters plugged in over usb. I used to use DBAN to wipe up to 16 drives a day with that setup but I just found PiBAN which would probably do what you want for pretty cheap.

First realtek RTL8127 10gb cards are beginning to appear on the market. Only seen one manufacturer yet, makes this card called TXA401.

Chip seems to be PCIe 4.0 x1 only.

>>106488351
>Chip seems to be PCIe 4.0
In other words there will not be 2-port cards with this chip because just the PCIe switch required would make them prohibitively expensive.

>>106487897
>>106487949
I flashed a BIOS I got off of STH
Probably sketchy but it flashed right through the BMC and after I enabled 4x4x4x4x in CPU 1 slot 2, my old boot drive was recognized and booted right away.

Would you believe that this monstrosity only takes ~20w more than a 10700k on a desktop board?

>>106465853
What do you do with the server?

>>106488130
thanks. all I needed.

>>106487152
The only problem with it is AM4 which is getting harder to find around me at least.

>>106487152
First time I see a component cheaper in Europe, lmao. 125 here

>>106479293
How much are you consuming on average?
I will be doing the same coming next Spring.

>>106488530
I also got fat and let go.
People that call themselves bears are pathetic.

>>106466510
never gonna be dropped, too many enterprise customers running these on their racks still. some will continue to for 20 years

>>106466647
you can have dns point to local ips if you own a domain, ex. "localserver.mywebsite.com" could point to 192.168.xxx.xxx and then you'd be able to make legit certificates signed by a real CA

avoids having to install your own certs to each device while still gettin https

>>106476825
>>106475591
Can we offically stop shilling these SBC, raspberry Pis and fucking NUCs. We do these anons such a disservice when all they will ever need is some type of Dell or Lenovo mini PCs. These things are cheap as chips, Lenovo in particular has a very good reputation on /g/ anyway, anons can upgrade CPUs, RAM, tinker away. You can get <15watt idle usage.

>>106487520
where can I get this?

>>106488947
it's every fucking day that someone is asking about it. they don't listen.

>>106488947
But but but
*whisper*
No lanes

>>106488947
i agree on SBCs but the n100 boxes are pretty good and use less power than 7th-8th gen i5 in old lenovo/dell minipcs while having better performance

>spin up navidrome because it sounded neat
>Open webui
>Everything is sorted into albums
>All I listen to is game and anison shit so there's 100 albums all consisting of one song each
This was prob retarded

>>106466105
>removed the crab

dropped

Anyone ever use https://serverpartdeals.com/?

>>106489126
No, but I plan to in the future. Seems legit and my the price cant be beat. My biggest regret is listening to Reddit and shuking externals from Best Buy.

>>106489126
No, but I plan to in the future. Seems legit. My biggest regret is listening to Reddit and shuking externals from Best Buy.

Anyone tried netbird?
I need 5 emails and tailscale has only 3 on free tier

Is it fine if the little heatsink near the sata ports on my mainboard gets got enough to burn your finger if you touch if for a second too long? I dunno how much heat they are made to handle but its going for a couple of years like this and so far there are no issues that forced themselves in my way.

>>106488372

It's probably aimed for motherboards, a cheap way to integrate 10gb into new computers.

>>106490116
>My biggest regret is (...) shuking externals from Best Buy.
What happened?

>>106490610
If it's a server board with an onboard SAS controller then it expects high airflow over the little heatsink, which your case may not be providing. Easy solution would be to strap a 40mm fan to it.
If it's regular SATA it should not be heating up that much, and the extreme heat could be a sign of impending failure.

>>106488351
>>106488372
>>106490849
It's 2x
For some reason this is one of the few times that a vendor decided to make a 1x card even if it fucks over PCIe 3.0 users.
Most Aquantia cards are 4x even if the most recent chip supports PCIe 4.0 and is good at 1x

You can make a dual port card with any PLX/switch chip with a 4x host interface.
Quad port can be made with any chip with a 8x interface.

>>106465853
Badass, but how do you deal with the constant WHRRRRRRRRRR?

>>106467679
>I get enough exposure to noisy rack gear being in comms room or setting up gear
And they don't.

>>106488456
>Would you believe that this monstrosity only takes ~20w more than a 10700k on a desktop board?
yeah. my dual 2699v4 was relatively efficient, but I had a lower end video card (gtx 960)

what is the fastest way to dump my spotify playlist songs?

>>106481606
no problem, leech

I have 8TB for porn. 8TB for movies. They're semi-old HDD. I want a larger HDD for my porn though, and to turn the original 8TB porn HDD into a comic/manga store station.

What HDD do you guys recommend atm? I don't use a NAS, just an older PC with a 3060.

>>106489126
I've used them for years buying manufacturer recertified drives. I've done two RMAs and both were painless.
Youtubers are shilling them now so their prices are going up but I'll keep using them until I find something cheaper.

>>106493232
buy two more 8tb and put them all in raid 5

>>106491362
I use the shucked drives as backup drives. Once a month when I plug them in I have to reapply electrical tape to cover the 3rd pin from conducting.

>>106489090
Not true. the chips use less power, but the motherboards are all chinkshit jbod frankenmess shit and they typically idle in the 20w range while doing nothing. C3 states are the BEST they can do.

Meanwhile pic related can idle sub 4w because HP's suppliers actually talk to each other and can achieve c3+ power states AND have expandable (low profile) PCI slots which none of the n100's have.

Pop in a x710-da2 card and you have a 10 gig network firewall appliance that is cool, efficient and comfy.

OR get one of the m920q with PCI riser cards and get similar results. My server rack has no lack for space so I prefer bigger SFF factors.

>>106495174
*attached pic

>>106495174
>4w
lmao sure, in S1 maybe
do you actually have one or are you just regurgitating from the bullshit germoid
spreadsheet
>Pop in a x710-da2 card and you have a 10 gig network firewall appliance that is cool, efficient and comfy.
pop in a x710-da2 and it'll no longer idle under 30 watts moron

Is there any way to permanently nuke intel boot agent (Press CTRL+S to enter setup) shit on Intel X520 and X550 series NICs?
Every time I turn it off it inevitably comes back and when you have 8 NICs all individually going through that whole shebang that takes about three times as long just by itself as the entire pre-boot, BMC initialization, RAM training and OS boot sequence does and at this point I don't give a shit if I have to hack the drivers if need be just to get rid of this.
I vaguely remember nuking this shit off an X550 years ago with some intel tool but I can't find it again so it might have been some Russian skiddie tool and I'm misremembering it as being an official tool.

>>106495493
pretty sure you need the intel program that modifies the firmware to disable it.

>>106495493
You'd have to wipe the UEFI BSD from the card firmware so the cards can't provide boot services.

Can anyone recommend me a PCIe 1x card that will give me 6 SATA ports?
I've found some random AliExpress ones, but I really have no idea how to evaluate them.
I've run out of SATA ports, and I've run out of larger PCIe ports, so it's PCIe 1x or bust. Not too woried about getting high throughput though.

>>106497339
Look for a card with 4-6 ports that specifically mentions PCIe 3.0 and an ASMedia chipset.
If the slot is open you can also use larger cards, they'll just be limited to x1.

>>106497339
you can get this card and then cut the back edge of your 1x slot to make the connector fit

this card is pcie 4.0 so double the bandwidth of a 3.0 card.

>>106497339
I was in your pricey a few weeks ago, asking the same thing. Get a SAS HBA. it can do BOTH SAS and SSD. You won't regret it

>>106497339
predicament*

>>106497339
Do this!
>>106497894 you will thank us later. Be sure to put it on the chipset (south bridge) and not any of the x16 slots. Make sure to get extra cables

sorry to blogpost but I finally got my fortigate and my ruckus 650 APs mounted on my ceiling.
gotta say I am very happy with the router coming from google home. Would've loved to have all the same manufacturer but I can't complain if it's all free.
next steps is trying to figure out how to vlan.

whats a good 2U case that's pretty cheap? preferably comes with a backplane? I'm looking at trying to get a good deal on a supermicro one

bump

Replaced a drive in my md RAID 6. Rebuild succeeded and the array is clean. For some reason the new drive did not replace the device number of the old drive. So the list of member disks on /proc/mdstat and mdadm --detail looks like
>sda2[0], sdb2[4], sdc2[2], sdd[3]
Previously sdb2 was device 1, but now it is 4. The old disk was was flagged failed and remove from the array before being physically removed from the server. Is there any way to renumber the drives in mdadm? I suppose this doesn't matter it is more of an OCD thing for me.

You know how when you read up posts of people discussing their server setups and whatnot, you'll often see them say "we" use or do this or that. Reading that stuff kinda hits me in a strange way. It carries the implication that this person is doing this stuff with other people, like he has other individuals directly involved in whatever projects he's doing, i.e. two or more people are assembling server solutions together. Or at the very least, it implies that other people directly depend on his project, for their own projects, i.e. someone manages the client side of some software while the other sets up the hardware and the containers and whatnot. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, how do I keep the motivation going with this stuff, when I don't really need much of it myself (just give me a cable to a modem), people around me could easily live without any of this, and I've more or less lost hope in this leading me to some kind of tech career at this point? Or at least how can I get over the fact that other people do this stuff and it's seemingly useful?

>>106497423
It's a closed slot and I'm not looking to cut it open at this time. Thanks for your pointers. That puts me on the right track.

>>106502054
Maybe you should find a hobby you actually enjoy

>>106502054
>motivation
If you’re not inherently interested in this stuff, it might be hard for you to get a job in tech. Let alone enjoy it as a career.

>seemingly useful
Sometimes you just wanna learn how something works.

>>106502150
>>106502195
I do enjoy it, I've spent many hours a day fucking around with it.
I'm talking about the occasional recurring feeling/realisation of pointlessness and/or inadequacy of it all.

>>106502241
You should ask yourself why you desire a "point" to it at all.

i wish chinese and russian niggers didn't make exposing shit to the internet so annoying and tiring

>>106502302
geoblock them you don't need or want them anyway.

>>106502325
what could I use to allow only my country ips?

>>106502363
Cloudflare. or assuming it’s web content, nginx + a geoip db.

>>106495730
>>106496490
Found it, it was the "NVM Update Utility" tool that can modify the onboard firmware. Just nuked the netboot part off of all NICs.

>>106502195
It's not hard because I don't enjoy "this stuff", it's hard because I never built up any job experience in tech and never made any connections. It's also hard because I'm reaching an age where I'm losing hope and am feeling burned out without seemingly having anything substantial to show for it.

>>106502291
I want to feel like what I'm doing is more useful than just intellectual masturbation. Doing it as a career would be a "point" in itself, because then not only do I know that I'm doing something that's useful to someone out there, I can also use it to economically sustain myself and a potential family. It's hard to maintain enthusiasm when everything I've done up until this point hasn't produced any real results in that aspect, but it seems like enthusiasm is a crucial prerequisite, so I guess I don't have much choice but to get over being miserable and keep doing my thing.

domain name registrar jacked up the renewal price 1000%...

>>106502812
Novelty TLD? Should have stuck with com/org/net.

>>106486654
This is a stupid way to segment your subnets.
>I put all of my x86 machines in one vlan
>If it has RGB LEDs then I put it in the RGB vlan

Simple is best. At the end of the day, you segment based on trust.
>vlan 10 - trusted devices that I admin
>vlan 20 - untrusted devices/ guests
>vlan 30 - iot (shit that has no business on the internet)

less firewall rules are better

>>106502054
comparison is the thief of joy. why do you care what other people are doing? it has literally zero real impact on anything you create. if you want to feel like what you're doing has purpose, maybe contribute to some small open source projects? or even donate processing power to one of those distributed computing projects that cure cancer or whatever.

>>106502860
Nah you definitely want cameras on a separate VLAN, and you want a management VLAN for IPMI/SNMP/SSH to hypervisors and networking gear. The only stupid VLANs he has are DNS and public facing

>>106502826
le sigh, now I know
luckily it's just like 4-5 people who use it so I should be able to switch over without too much hassle. Is Cloudflare still the recommendation if I'm already using their DNS?

>>106503125
Personally I wouldn't put both eggs in cloudflare's basket. It's bad enough to let them control DNS for the entire domain. But if you're less paranoid, go ahead.

>>106502924
nah, you're right. 99% of the time i just do exactly what i want and am sufficiently content. but in the 1% moments i think i want some kind of external expert validation to tell me whether or not what i'm doing is a good use of my time in terms of helping me get where i want to be - i'd happily burn my entire setup down and focus on some completely different tech path if someone convinced me it would be a guaranteed job for me at the end of it. unfortunately due to my introvert autist nature i don't have anyone like that so i'm mostly just sticking to what feels right.

>>106469165
>self-hosted music streaming with literally every single album we could think of
where'd you get it all?

>>106503097
>cameras
have no business accessing internet, belong in vlan 30 with all other iot chinkware

why are you overcomplicating this?

>>106469165
>This is truly the end for me, I don't know what I could ever possibly need that I would need to pay a giant internet company for ever again. I feel... fully content.
Yeah at some point the only real things to add are more storage servers or the occasional network gear upgrade. Absolute bliss.

>>106502826
is there something that makes those TLDs safe from price jacking?

>>106502363
my router has pfblockerng with geo blocking as a setting.

>>106503902
.com and .net are run by Verisign but they're also the de facto world wide TLDs for historical reasons, any significant rises would be met with resistance by private and public interests.
.org is under the Public Interest Registry and there was already backlash when they tried to sell out to Ethos Capital (which WOULD have jacked up prices) five years ago. ICANN stepped in, PIR backed down. It'll probably remain the most stable in price.

>>106488934
At first I didn't understand this but after taking the time to set it up it made sense, this solution is genius. I assumed I would have to open services to the world in order to be able to have an SSL cert for them, but a combination of this and this other anon's approach here >>106475503 with a wildcard *.mydomain.com cert with DNS-01 authentication made it all work perfectly without the need for any extra shit like a CA or secondary domains. At home I just re-route all mydomain.com request to my home server's IP via Pihole with local static DNS rules, including subdomains that are not reachable through the internet, and out of the house I'm only able to reach exactly what I chose to expose. Thanks a lot frens, I learned a lot this past week.

>>106504175
ok thanks, i own a .net and an .org and i was wondering what's stopping them from jacking the price up the ass next time i renew

>>106504236
I've never renewed a domain with the same registrar, ever, it was always cheaper to transfer it elsewhere. Only other solution is to find a good deal and register for something crazy like 10 or 20 years.

>>106465571 (OP)
i know it says it in the OP, but seriously what is even the point of a NAS or home server? i have a big enough drive in my PC and can just use syncthing and KDE connect and stuff to store stuff on a paritition mounted for it. I guess having a backup would be prudent but i could just copy onto a cold stored drive. i really dont see the point of this besides for fun (still considering for that)

>>106504952
What's the point of art?

>>106504970
>mirroring dropbox service at home is art
bold

>>106505027
I was going to make a food analogy, but those tend to be considered tacky for some reason. What's the point of any non-essential thing in life?

>>106505048
I switched to Linux because the customization, security, and low bloat for my new pc that i built, because it saves me time and money not having to deal with that shit for longer. time and money = my life. i dont see why making a server is worth my time when syncthing and samba exists. maybe if you do RAID and backups and fire/electromagnet/water proof them, i coudl see it

>>106505115
im also not trying to shit on it, im agnostic. i want to know if theres somethign actually cool that you can do with it, besides the satsifaction of having done it and showing it to people

>>106504952
What's the point in cooking a meal when you can go to the store and buy something that's been premade?
What's the point in gardening when you can go to the market and buy vegetables there?
What's the point in doing anything when a lower effort option is available?

>>106504952
If you have only one machine and it satisfies your storage needs, there is no point.
If you have multiple machines and you want to share storage, then there is a point.
If you also want to run services, a combined server/NAS makes sense.

>>106505129
I've got mine running a booru so I can have all the pictures of the anime girls I like to look at tagged, you can set it up so that you can have your local music/video library available from your phone when you go out.

>>106502054
>I don't really need much of it myself (just give me a cable to a modem)
If you get on utility from home server stuff, I think you should just stop. In my opinion it's stupid to have home servers as just a hobby or something you build an identity around. It should serve a function.
Maybe that function isn't a great payoff of time to reward, and that's where having fun and a hobby element can come in and be OK, but for you it sounds like:
>You don't like it
>You don't need
So why on earth are you trying to do it?

>>106505203
Good answer.
>>106504970
>>106505139
Bad answers.
Home servers are tools. They're not identities.
The point of using them when there are lower effort options available is that they have - for some people - benefits. Why else would you spend effort if not for benefits?
If there was a premade store meal that was better and cheaper than my home meals, of course I would get that, but there isn't.

>>106502054
>I don't really need much of it myself (just give me a cable to a modem)
If you get no utility from home server stuff, I think you should just stop. In my opinion it's stupid to have home servers as just a hobby or something you build an identity around. It should serve a function.
Maybe that function isn't a great payoff of time to reward, and that's where having fun and a hobby element can come in and be OK, but for you it sounds like:
>You don't like it
>You don't need
So why on earth are you trying to do it?

>>106505497
>he can't imagine Sisyphus happy
ngmi

>>106505509
You're not Sisyphus. You just don't know who you are so you mess around with computers all day for no reason so you don't have to think about that.
Going back to the art comparison, if pointless home servers are art, they would be pallid art that requires some explanatory plaque to "interpret" them. They have no intrinsic value.

>>106505529
nobody cares about your esoteric existential fear of wasting your time

>>106505889
So this guy isn't having fun with home servers, he has no use for a home server, but you think he should do one anyway otherwise he's scared?

>>106505977
you're the one with the fear. anon asked if it's worth it and he might like it but doesn't know. who fucking cares if it wasted time, you do.

>>106505529
Oh no I know who I am, I'm a useless drain on society's resources who's only real skill is my ability to understand and synthesize information. I'll still climb a mountain just for the joy of the experience.
It sounds to me like the one who doesn't know who they are is you. That's why you have to challenge others, so that by the strength of their defense you can better learn what you feel just as strongly about. Or I'm entirely off base. I don't know you from adam.

>>106505497
>They're not identities.
You're projecting too much.

>>106506392
If you're "homelab" is your identity, you need a job and a shrink.

>>106506412
>If you're "homelab" is your identity
If your grammar is your identity you are a fucking pajeet

>>106502627
i got feels reading this post. at the end of the day, just do what makes you happy. if you enjoy computers and like putting stuff together and figuring stuff out, it's cool to have a nice server rack and nas and stuff. so what if you dont have someone to "share" it with, not everything needs a purpose for you to be proud of what you created

>>106504970
the act of creating it

>>106504970
Being entertaining in one way or another.

>>106506281
>>106506382
>>106506392
gotem

>>106507174
I accept you're concession.

bought this 8 drive JBOD enclosure to replace shitty ass proprietary Synology DS 220+ (4TB RAID 1). I want to start with 4 larger drives in RAID6 on my new array but the NAS drive prices and making me hesitate. 4 16TB Ironwolf drives at $300 would be $1200... considering the enclosure ($450) plus some mini PC to to handle software RAID ($150), thats around $1800. is that a reasonable amount to pay for a setup w 32TB of RAID6 storage? anybody else have a similar setup?

>>106465571 (OP)
This looks so uncomfy

>>106465853
Cool what what the fuck are you actually hosting with that setup that you wouldn't be better off having hosted in a data centre?

This sfp module has been cooking for so long the label fell off the moment it cooled down.
It has been 100% reliable however with zero active airflow

>>106508613
Why do these shits heat up so much?

>>106508518
read the thread

>>106476821
>>106491453
It's not running in my office, just sitting there until I get my garage built. I don't want to deal with the noise/heat/running more circuits across the house.
>>106488506
>>106508518
I run my business's infra. OneDev instance, documentation, file hosting and dropboxes, docuseal, uptime monitors, VMs for customer dev environments, etc. You're looking at 4x online UPS(each meant to be plugged into a dedicated 120v 10amp circuit) for redundant power, 7x r730xd, 6x r630, 3x 12 3.5 HDD storage servers, a KVM w/ KVM over ethernet switch, a Sophos XG 430 Rev 2 firewall, Brocade ICX6610-48P switch, and a rear mounted Mellanox EDR switch(haven't gotten around to setting it up yet, but all the Dells have 100G NICs ready to go and I have the DACs). Lots of SAS enterprise-gradd SSDs with PLP in there and a couple hundred TB of SAS HDD total in the storage servers, and a couple TB of RAM across the servers. Not exactly a full inventory but that's the gist of it: lots of decade old hardware in pretty decent condition that is mostly overkill and should offer quite a bit of redundancy(other than networking unfortunately)

>SMB uses Kerberos
>modern IDaaS doesnt use Kerberos
>there is no alternative to SMB
WHY IS IT LIKE THIS

>>106508905
host your own? this is /hsg/
freeipa is pretty straightforward just set it up on a container with a bridge to your lan

got adguard running on a pi4
plenty of spare power/room on it
got no fucking idea what to run on it though
i already have file server/media shit on a mini pc

I need to refresh my network knowledge.
Is GNS3 still the best simulator out there?
Anyone using it with VM to simulate their own networks?
I was thinking of doing some templates to simulate what I wanted to build for myself.

>>106508905
>SMB
Just to clear things out, you mean Samba?
What IDaaS?
As the other dude said, just host your own stuff.

>>106509053
>host your own? this is /hsg/
this clusterfuck is largely caused by me wanting to host my own storage; theres plenty of services that will rent you storage plus some software layer that saves you from the abject horror that is AD.
>freeipa is pretty straightforward
windows machines cant join freeipa domains, and it only gets worse from there.
>>106509476
>Just to clear things out, you mean Samba?
i mean SMB.
>What IDaaS?
all of them. if you want an SMB network share, you need Kerberos. if you want Kerberos, you need samba/AD. and no one, not even microsoft, is going to sell you AD, because it is the worst piece of software ever written.
this is my frustration: SMB is inexorably tied to legacy software, which is currently being replaced with SaaS that is 100% not compatible with SMB (unless you want to fork over $110 to microkike every month for the privilege of not using their software), and there is no plan to remedy this situation. no "SMB4 will fix this", no from-the-gound-up next-gen file transport protocol, nothing. what am i to do? what are YOU going to? you can laugh at me all you want but i know most of you retards reading this are still on NTLM. youre on borrowed time fucker. i hope you like webDAV because thats all that will be left for any of us.

>>106509951
Dude, it's self-hosting. Stop overengineering stuff. Out of everything in the world you could bitch about, this is not worth the energy.
Just roll a FreeIPA as ADDC and use NFS.
> you can laugh at me all you want but i know most of you retards reading this are still on NTLM.
Sure will because I would never self-host anything on Windows and even if I did I would bend Windows to my Linux and not the opposite.

>>106502924
Why did he commit not alive?

>>106510009
>Just roll a FreeIPA as ADDC and use NFS.
lord have mercy.
1) i told you windows machines cannot join freeipa domains. even if youre underemployed ass doesnt care about using desktop linux, im not sure what the fuck you thought you would accomplish by saying it again.
2) freeipa is not an AD DC. it cannot be used as an AD DC. AD nor samba are able to use freeipa as an id backend.
3) NFS doesnt require any id backend whatsoever. if i was willing to use NFS, i might just say fuck it and no_root_squash that bitch. maybe i will. maybe i dont care anymore. maybe if i was more of a retard like you i would still enjoy this hobby.

how do you upgrade your proxmox and lxc's? i've been going into each lxc and doing update && upgrade, then on the host, then reboot it all

>>106510137
>thinking you need to be underemployed to use desktop linux
it's 2025, get with the times old man.

trying a homeserver for the first, I have a somewhat stupid question which I can't find the answer to.
every guide talks about dynamic dns which makes sense but if I have a domain name and I point it to a dynamic dns so that I can use my domain name then won't anyone be able to dox me based on my domain name ip?

>>106509468
I just buy physical equipment and put it inline to learn. But, depends what you want to use. If you're learning strictly Cisco then CML is better because it has cat9k images. If you want to learn other vendors then yeah, GNS3 is good.

>>106508666
The SFP form factor really isn't designed to handle the thermal load of the chipsets used to convert the signals.
The standard itself is only designed to handle 1.5w or so, way lower than the 2.5-4.5w that most SFP+ 10Gbase-t modules will consume.

>>106495028
I just have trust issues with Seagate would recommend Toshiba HDD, especially MG-series.
>>106509951
Yes, AD is shit, but I've come to accept it there is no way to change it. I'm using Univention docker image and Synology AD then i'm running eval Win server VM to tie it with azure. I hate MS, but relatives got used to teams MS shit software. Still trying to minimize MS footprint as much as possible.
SMB is pretty much only shit that is universal, and offers some basic access control.

what is some good guide for iptables?
i would like to use a vps with docker containers and tailscale so I assume i have to allow only ssh through eth0 and block the rest
but how does docker and tailscale iptables work together?

is one of the chinese n100/n150 boxes good enough to run jellyfin with 4k content?

>>106511832
>Can confirm, I run a Jellyfin server with an N100 and the thing is a transcoding beast when you set it up right

>16G single channel ram, 512G NVMe SSD.
>It can transcode a 4K HDR10 movie encoded at 60Mbps down to 1080p SDR ~15Mbps at around 78fps. 4K HDR to 4K SDR at around 35fps I think. Those are typically the most intensive workloads I throw at it. Dolby Vision encoding is a bit harder on it, I think it uses OpenCL rather than VPP tonemapping for that, so those can drop as low as like 28fps when going 4k DV -> 4K SDR, but for my purposes that's the most intensive workload and those would all be 24fps movies, so it generally just works great.

>I also have a fair bit of anime encoded in Hi10p h264 format, and it has no trouble decoding and re-encoding those (to h265) with burned-in subtitles. We're talking 90+fps. I note Hi10p mostly because hardware decoders for it don't exist.

>It's at the encoding step that we usually see it getting close to its limits for transcode speed, hence why 4k HDR to 4k SDR is the most intensive load. It's probably also safe to assume that when transcoding down to 1080p Jellyfin puts the scaling down filter first in the ffmpeg pipeline so that the tonemapping processes are less CPU/GPU/memory bandwidth intensive as well.

>>106511832
Aaa long as it doesn't overheat

bump

>>106510241
ansible can automate update/upgrade

>>106508852
And that's all run from a residential power source? What's the power draw? Isn't power/internet downtime un a home too much of a risk for business infrastructure? A UPS can only do so much. Do you have an out of band internet connection?

>>106515283
How is ansible better than ssh?

>>106508852
Not to mention the noise amd cooling considerations. It's impressive bto have all that at home but there's a point where I think I would rely on a professional data centre for business critical IT.

>>106515566
I run one ansible playbook to update all my containers at the same time. It also outputs logging for any containers that failed to update properly and rolls them back to the last snapshot.

>>106509951
i never had a problem with win-sshfs. why go the old complicated route which was designed for xp computers connecting to a small business's server

>>106511650
nigga u filter by subnet at your firewall, your wireguard clients probably in 10.8.0.x/24

>>106511650
>iptables
You start by forgetting iptables ever existed and learn nftables.

So Instead of buying a ubiquiti access point I want to buy some used router and set it to AP mode for my opnsense firewall machine and switch. Basically I'm building my own ass router. Whats a good model/brand to go for?

>>106516808
>for my opnsense firewall machine and switch. Basically I'm building my own ass router.
You could just add a wireless card.

>>106516808
why not buy a good pcie wifi card and use that? that's what an ap is really doing, internally it'll have an arm computer with a wifi peripheral using all of the i/o bandwidth.

>>106489104
it's always something with these mainstream FOSS programs

they can function, but the finesse to make it perfect is missing

immich is the same - it has to general thumbnails. Not practical for 2million images

jellyfin is the same - it has trancoooode. Even if Firefox and VLC supports the code.

Makes you want to kill

What is the point of transcoding, just download a shit version for your trash tier devices and use the 4K/2K/1080p for everything else.

>>106518628
jellyfin does live transcoding so that your poverty device can use the same file as your real devices, since it's all being accessed over the network anyway.

I was planning on getting this for my opnsense router plus one of those chink switches with 1 or 2 10g ports and like 8 2.5g ports. Do these generate a shit load of heat? I was planning on replacing my old opnsense router thats in my bedroom and I read they get super hot

>>106518646
What's the fucking point, just download a 720p version too.

>>106518665
>X540
You know that bitch burns >17W, right?

>>106518672
disk space

>>106518698
google ai says my current card uses around 10W
PRO/1000 VT (82575): Approximately 10.65W

Honestly I don't really even need 10g but I was looking at it for the price. Im really more worried about heat generation than anything. Is there a better card or maybe a 2.5g card I feel that if I am going to be getting a new card anyway I might as well get something that will give me more options in case my comcast gets upgraded or my situation changes

>>106518628
I know, it annoys me too that there is no STOP THE TRANSCODING FAGGOT config

>>106518834
>Im really more worried about heat generation than anything.
Power consumption directly correlates to heat generation. The X540 runs hot, it's a high-LFM server card. It also doesn't support 5GbE or 2.5GbE, it's 10GbE only.

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>>106515566
>How is a construction team better than a hammer?