Thread 106484835

geerling got filtered by a 15 year old nissan leaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQQtFnLefqw

>>106484835 (OP)
a few years back, I seriously considered getting a cheap nissan leaf as my daily driver, even back then nissan leafs had the worst battery tech, zero cooling and people sold them used with the battery nearly entirely used up, I mean like not even being able to service a 30mi round trip,
love my 2010 pre-infotainment, pre-LTE civic, i'm never letting it go

you mean a 2 year old nissan leaf, most of his points were frustrations with new cars in general and not that it was a "cheap" EV

i wonder if ill be stuck with my current car forever until it cannot be repaired or is made illegal

>>106484888
>>106484835 (OP)
Leafs are the best electric car that exists and has ever exists.
Everything in them has been open source and hacked. It is the only freedom car & cannot be shut down. You can add battery mods and spare batteries.
The cooling of the battery is irrelevant unless there's some dumb fuck that uses fast charging stations while already driving, multiple times a day, instead of charging at your home.

>>106485061
how do you justify buying a new battery that costs more than the car

>>106484835 (OP)
he doesn't even answer the question posed in the title, also the comments section is disgusting, full of EVtards all justifying the car's shortcomings, EVs are a cult.

>>106485144
They don't. Plenty of them are cheap from oust car wrecks.
You buy a used car get used battery. Leafs are less than 8k.
You can also just use safer lifepo4 batteries in the trunk.

>>106485061
>The cooling of the battery is irrelevant unless there's some dumb fuck that uses fast charging stations while already driving, multiple times a day, instead of charging at your home.

The problem is the range is also poor.
So you will need to charge multiple times a day on a long trip.
And not cooling the battery during fast charge kills it, reducing range even more.

If you ONLY use it to commute it's alright but if you ever go on holiday there are much better options like from Hyundai/Kia.

Nissan forgot to innovate and are stuck in 2010 forever.

>>106485253
they don't have to innovate, japanese EVs are built to be disposable since nobody keeps their cars older than 3 years thanks to the shaken

EVs as a concept are a non-starter if you're not a homeowner with the ability to provide 240V charging in your garage, anyone else has to deal with trickle chargers hanging down from their apartment or power cords leading to the street where their EV is parked.

>>106485276
>they don't have to innovate
EV's are developing incredibly fast.
If they don't innovate they won't be selling many cars in the near future.

And it's sad because I like Japanese cars but I don't see how companies like Nissan and Toyota can still exist 20 years from now.

>Used EV
couldn't pay me

>>106485297
Depends where you live.
Adding chargers to public parking spots is easy and cheap, there just has to be a political will like wanting cleaner air in your city.

Where I live there are public chargers in pretty much every street and if there aren't enough in your neighborhood you can request one when you buy an EV.

>>106486133
>easy and cheap
public infrastructure is not "easy and cheap", it costs $1.7 million dollars to open a public restroom in a public park, they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars redrawing lines on the road to open bike lines and then even more money undoing them when nimby residents want them all gone.

>>106486133
who pays for the electricity on those things?

>>106486088
toyota bet wrong on hydrogen but they also never abandoned hybrids which are way more practical and they've been so successful they don't even make a dedicated "hybrid" vehicle anymore, instead adding a hybrid version of every ICE car they make.

>>106484835 (OP)
>or in a school zone especially
damn, throwing shade

leaf is way too small. every single car in my area is a gigantic SUV like a Tahoe or a pickup like a Denali. A leaf would be suicide.

>>106486209
It's about €1000 for the hardware plus another €500 for the labor.
Paving a parking spot costs a lot more.
And it pays itself back over time since >>106486213 the people using it pay for the electricity plus some extra for the infrastructure.

A petrol pump also costs money.

>>106485061
Sounds like if they are that open, there is already an aftermarket cooling pack that I could buy for one.
Surely someone has done that for the second gen, it's already out of produmjp2ction.

>>106486247
>€500 for the labor.

lol good luck with that for a municipal project

>>106486451
It's a guy with a shovel.

>>106486459
they won't let just anyone do it, you're not getting the work contract if you're not a nepo hire or in the pockets of local politicians

>>106486132
>>Used EV
>couldn't pay me
You are getting paid. The cars depreciate about 6x faster than the batteries wear out. It's a steal. Of course it's also a homeowner subsidy but what isn't these days.

>>106486247
but anon, what about the 200,000 for the planning permission, then the 50,000 for the environmental impact study, then 400,000 for the 3 year contract for the outsourced company to hire the guy with the shovel, then the 300,000 to bribe the guy at the council to accept your planning permission.
im joking but they painted two pedestrian crossings in my town and thats how 40,000 pounds went down the toilet somehow

>>106485297
Sounds like an American issue tbqsh

>>106485253
This is not a car you should be buying for a long trip. This is a town commuter car. If you need to do long trips buy a different car. You should never use fast charging for any car.

>>106486246
Write it in your diary, cry baby.