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Previous thread: >>106481242

>have laptop
>want to limit cpu to lower power consumption when not plugged in
how would i go about achieving this? working sans DE, just a window manager.

>>106499598 (OP)>>106499650
you can take a look at this
https://thadeutucci.medium.com/journey-to-a-tiling-window-manager-i3wm-439e0de585c9

>>106499650
Use Power Profiles Daemon:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/upower/power-profiles-daemon

>>106499598 (OP)
artix linux

I love Windows!!

>>106499753
Enjoy your dead SSD

>>106499761
Truly the newest FUD of our time

>>106499770
probably the worst too since windows has plenty of other issues going on right now

>>106499761

ah yes hitler had v1 rocket v2 rocket and a beetle

>>106499770
It's not actually FUD though, loads of people are reporting the issue.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/latest-windows-11-security-patch-might-be-breaking-ssds-under-heavy-workloads-users-report-disappearing-drives-following-file-transfers-including-some-that-cannot-be-recovered-after-a-reboot

It doesn't seem to affect everyone though but it's a real issue.

>>106499812
I'd expect if they can figure out what's wrong then the September update will fix the issue

>>106499816
So far they've denied there's even a problem altogether, but I wouldn't surprised if an update silently fixes it and they just don't mention it again.

>>106499761
>he says while posting from a web browser which is one of the biggest culprits of massive ssd writes

>>106500150
That's not hypocritical at all though, you expect it from your web browser, you don't expect it from your operating system. Not to mention the fact you can run with cache completely in RAM if you really want and then the browser will make zero writes to disk.

>>106499598 (OP)
post beef

I love seeing the repo diffs on Gentoo when I eix-sync. I wonder why other distributions don't have a similar "state of the repo since you last updated diff". It's a great way to discover new packages that you might not have heard of before.

I just found harper a grammar checker, this way. It seems like a useful tool:
https://writewithharper.com/

>>106500199
Nobody expects their web browser to write loads of shit to your disk constantly...
It would make more sense for your os to be doing it, not your browser.

>>106500674
I think you would be very disappointed in your web browser's performance if it never cached anything and always had to re-download every single image, script and static HTML and CSS file over and over again.

>>106500668
Example of the diff I mean.
Do any other package managers on other distros display a similar diff?

I upgraded a couple of packages in debian unstable I shouldn't have.
How do I revert to the previous versions?

>>106501142
Did you set up btrfs snapshots? If not, you'll have to manually reinstall the packages individually, but instead of just doing "sudo apt install" you'd also specify the version. I'm not on a deb machine right now so I can't help you much, but I'm pretty sure something like "sudo apt install package=1.0.4" (or something similar) should work. Just check what the previous version of your package is.
However, if Debian already purged the old versions from their repo then you're out of luck. I'm not sure what their policy is with the unstable version regarding keeping older binaries.

>>106501207
>Did you set up btrfs snapshots?
No. I won't be running a filesystem that's known for causing data loss and is plagued with bad engineering practices. I'd rather go through the pain of using ZFS.
> If not, you'll have to manually reinstall the packages individually,
I did that now, partially getting the files from /var/cache/apt/archives/ or their awful web interface, guessing all the package names I needed.
But I must say, this is stone age shit. It's awful usability. Is that all what debian can offer? Why can't I just downgrade to a previous state with one command? I'm really wondering how it's 2025 and I still have this miserable user experience that's worse than fucking DOS.

>>106501253
>Is that all what debian can offer?
You're working with apt, so yes. It just doesn't have this feature. If you want to be able to revert your system, then you need system snapshots. If you don't want to use btrfs, you can just use regular snapshots.

>>106501253
>Why can't I just downgrade to a previous state with one command?
You can, just take a snapshot before you run updates. You can even make the package manager do it for you automatically.

>I'd rather go through the pain of using ZFS.
Can recommend. Go with portable ZFSBootMenu and give the entire OS disk to ZFS so you can have full disk snapshots.

>>106501332
NTA but does zfs support encrypted swap yet or would you need to put lvm on luks first? Only reason i dont use zfs is because encrypted swap doesnt work properly on luks+zfs

>>106501371
Just use ZRAM. No need for encrypted Swap if it never leaves non-persistent storage in the first place.

You couldn't hibernate/resume this way though but realistically you don't need that.

>>106501371
native ZFS encryption with a swap file should be fine.

Anyone with amdgpu PCIe card, can you make the card use less power than 30W when idle? It displays 30W power use even if I set the cap at 10W.

>>106501446
Pretty much every GPU on the market has a minimum power draw. Your GPU seems to require a minimum of 30W. If you want to fuck around and find out you can mod the firmware, but it's very likely that if you manage to reduce the power draw below 20-27W your GPU will just fail to run. The limit is there for a reason.
If you want a low power draw, get a GPU that's rated for TDP under 75W. Those usually have a minimum somewhere between 5W and 15W.

>>106501483
Man I really wish something like laptops on Windows have would work: have a low power GPU that takes care of desktop things, and a usually off second high power GPU that can be used for games. PCIe cards could in theory just turn off most power if they're not needed.
But nope, can't have that on desktop Linux. It sucks too much.

How does Ubuntu modify Gnome? I recognize gnome tweaks but what else?

>>106501637
Besides their branding and theming, they carry some patches that aren't upstream.

>>106501599
>have a low power GPU that takes care of desktop things, and a usually off second high power GPU that can be used for games
What are you even talking about? Linux works fine with multiple GPUs.

>>106501669
What changed recently? And does it work with X, or only its inferior "replacement"?

>>106499598 (OP)
>literally for my entire life "neat but just use windows" plays over and over in my head
>microshit in their infinite wisdom declares their operating system incompatible with the new -1 gayming hardware i build my pc out of
>looking at l00nix seriously for the first time

i still got another month to put it off. but it didn't have to be this way. you did this.

>>106501697
How is it incompatible with Windows of all things? You mean it doesn't fit with the 11 requirements?
You'd honestly have a good time if you just used something Arch based like Endeavour or just vanllia Arch itself.

>>106501697
>incompatible with the new -1 gayming hardware i build my pc out of
that sounds unbelievable

>>106501682
>What changed recently?
Nothing. Linux has pretty much always supported multiple GPUs.

>recommending something like arch to windows-onlies
This should count as trolling.

>>106501744
Maybe if you started separate sessions on each GPU, which is not what most users want or expect. Or perhaps nvidia SLI crap. But dual-GPU setups like in laptops were always hacky and a severe pain, and probably still are.

>>106501765
>dual-GPU setups like in laptops were always hacky and a severe pain, and probably still are.
They're a pain even on Windows 11, at least when it comes to Intel+nVidia. So, I'm not sure what you're expecting.

>>106501750
Arch's a fun learning experience IF you have even done the most basic shit in Linux before.

>>106501786
>So, I'm not sure what you're expecting.
Computers not being completely fucking shit. Yes, laugh at me.

>>106501765
You just set an environment variable to run on the GPU you want. I think KDE and GNOME even do this automatically if they detect multiple GPUs then you can right-click the application icon and tell it to run on the non-preferred GPU. Where things get really interesting is when you have more than two GPUs, I have no idea which one it picks in that scenario.

>>106499770
I do tech support and recently saw a dead 2TB Samsung 980 on a Windows 11 pc, happened after a software update.

I'm daily driving Linux since that lol

>>106499761
>>106501821
Explain. I should probably avoid buying Samsung SSDs if they can simply get killed by changed driver behavior?

KDE Linux has reached alpha stage, what do we think of it?

>>106501863
>actually using KDE

>>106501845
It's apparently something the August W11 monthly update did where if an SSD has a certain Phison controller it'll start acting strangely or just die if you do large amount writes.

>>106501863
Is this KDE neon but actually meant to be used by normal users?

>>106501863
I haven't tried it yet but I hope it reaches its goal of being the KDE distro.
>>106501869
There isn't a better desktop. KDE with all its flaws is still the best.

>>106501863
Does it have distrobox and/or homebrew pre installed? Then it's good.

>>106501869
>Xhe doesn't use a bit-by-bit facsimile of my very own software choices in a vain attempt to emulate my greatness, thus pricing xheir complete inferiority and inability to understand the genius within
Wow..
How can you be SUCH a loser, anon? The whole world is laughing at you and your parents wish you never were born.

>>106501863
what's the point? what is it based on?

>>106501446
my rx6600 is idling at 4-5W according to LACT. i haven't done anything to achieve this

>>106501872
>Is this KDE neon but actually meant to be used by normal users?
I'm not sure actually, it's not a normal distro, for one, it doesn't have a package manager. It's meant to fix the issues Neon had.

>>106501879
>distrobox
Yes, also flatpaks and snaps. Homebrew no, but it can be installed by the user.

linux troubleshooting is actually kinda fun
yesterday i fixed a usb controller not being detected and got vr working at the same time
now i kind of dont have a reason to dualboot anymore

>>106501910
>what's the point?
KDE Neon got obsolete, and GNOME OS exists, so KDE wants to make their own too.

>what is it based on?
Based.

>>106501877
>There isn't a better desktop.
A raw window manager like icewm has better window managing capabilities, uses little memory, doesn't leak memory, doesn't crash all the time. KDE is windows 95 tier.

>>106501908
Are you repeating what people are telling you all the time?

>>106501910
The point is to have an official KDE distro. KDE software you have on other distros might not be packaged the way the KDE project wanted it to be.

>>106501943
KDE doesn't Krash all of the time. That's a complete and utter meme.

>>106501943
Eventually you'll have to upgrade from your Pentium II, grandpa.

>>106501910
It's Arch based btw.

>>106482784
OpenSUSE-kun, did the dependencies end up working?

>>106501975
What, because icewm seems old? I'm always surprised how trash the mainstream DEs still are when I try to switch away from them. KDE and gnome are the windows 11 of Linux.

How do I grep to search for a string in files and output only the file name? I don't want to see the string I searched for, just which files the string is present in.

My knowledge of grep is really basic.
grep -inr "string"

>>106501997
Oh wow. I'm sure you don't use systemd either and think pipewire is the devil :^)

>>106501973
>>106501943
The KDE crash meme is literally being pushed by one Indian on this board butthurt that LXDE is the only DE that works on his laptop. He sometimes makes shitposts about GNOME too (for the same reasons), though obviously not as often. I surmise that since GNOME obviously isn't a traditional desktop, he's less interested and therefore the sour grapes effect is lessened.

>>106502015
$ grep --files-with-matches vim .vimrc
.vimrc

>>106501863
I'll try it out at some point. I have a few bugs I'd like to report, but I'd like to konfirm they're KDE bugs.

>>106501943
>A raw window manager like icewm has better window managing capabilities, uses little memory, doesn't leak memory, doesn't crash all the time. KDE is windows 95 tier.
Stop troll posting.

>>106502022
Meant for: >>106502003

>>106501943
>tell me you use nvidia without saying

>>106502017
I just switched from Windows to Fedora KDE (For HDR support) and been having crashes, just a few, but noticeable on a fresh install.

>>106501410
Need swap for hibernation
>>106501422
Swap file doesnt work properly with zfs last time i checked

>>106502015
I use systemd, but I don't think it adds anything useful. I'm only using it because my distro forced it upon me. Sometimes it fucks up hard. I used pipewire for a while, but got sick of its erratic behavior and it added very, very little, so I got rid of it again.
Yeah, I use Linux because I hate bloat. MacOS and Windows unironically work better if you want a fully loaded desktop. This was the case 20 years ago, and it's still the case.

>>106502017
I use some KDE applications. They still crash sometimes, all while some other programs had uptimes to up to a year.

>>106502026
What's your highest KDE desktop uptime?

>>106501981
Yep! It's pretty smexxy so far, no big issues or inconsistencies. Although i am looking for some upscaled W7 backgrounds atm for my big screen.
Here's some gushing over Windows 7 while i am at it.
Windows 7 is the only operating system i have ever properly loved. Windows xp while nostalgic was pretty fugly. I just like the pretty yet functional look. Functional as in not being too much yet not overly minimalistic. The start menu does what's needed and i wish every UI designer out there gave it a look. Same with explorer, minus tabs, is perfect as it is.
The glassy look feels so much better than the dull flatness of modern design desu. I want to lick it in a sense, like a icicle.

If Windows 7 was offered as a updated OS in 2025 with up to date drivers n stuff i'd jump ship in a moment.

>>106501863
Looks like KDE

>>106502017
>>106502060
>only very little crashes
top kek (no KDE pun intended)

>>106502060
>list of crashes
What's this called? I'd like to check if there's something silently crashing on my machine (I haven't had any KDE crashes in a very, very long time)

>>106502066
>What's your highest KDE desktop uptime?
Over a month on my laptop. I always just suspend it by closing the lid and plug it into a wall when I'm done. Literally to the point where uupd warns me that I haven't updated my system in over a month.

>>106501933
>all the bloated package managers is installed
This is stupid, just keep one of them and thats it. Having five different secondary package managers is way too much.

>>106502022
>>106502040
You're the best. Thank you.

grep -inrl "string"

>>106501877
XFCE has always been better and is only limited to still being stuck on x11 (not like it matters that much)

>>106499598 (OP)
okay this isn't a bait
can I fuck my system up in a way that it launches apps horribly slow?
I installed arch manually on a old laptop and firefox takes about 20 seconds to open.
I booted my even older laptop (dual core, w7) chrome takes 4-5 seconds.

is there way to see what causes this or check logs?

>>106502100
Xfce will always use X11. You want Wfce instead.

>>106502100
>is only limited to still being stuck on x11
Seems like a feature. My xfce experiences was awful tool, though.

Worth it to encrypt my desktop? Is the performance loss big in twoo keeee tweeenty foiv?

>>106502103
I mean, you can launch it through the terminal and see what errors and warnings it shows, and where it gets stuck. This is pretty unusual behavior. Unless you installed one of those malicious AUR packages?

>>106502114
>Is the performance loss big
yes

>>106501253
>I won't be running a filesystem that's known for causing data loss and is plagued with bad engineering practices.
OpenZFS has a data loss defect with filesystem encryption going back to v2.2.

I refuse to use anything involving arch because they don't have secure boot.

>>106502136
Bro just sign it yourself, then you can have secure boot on anything.

>>106502066

>Yeah, I use Linux because I hate bloat.
I propose a name for this disorder: Linuxia nervosa.

>>106502061
>Swap file doesnt work properly with zfs last time i checked
yeah my bad, looks like it's a bad idea.
best i can tell you'll want a raw partition for it and either LUKS or dm-crypt

>>106502114
It depends on your hardware.

>>106502136
secure boot is worthless unless you roll your own pki anyway.

>>106502169
>spends a lot of time to run a Linux system
>and to make it like Windows
What does that make you?

>>106502116
Nope, haven't used AUR yet. it's a sandy bridge laptop with hdd, running xfce.
My initial thought was that the hdd slowing it down since it gets way better after the initial launch (3-4 seconds).
Same for simple terminal commands or the app launcher.

I will try the terminal and see what happens.
Would preloading help in these old junks maybe?

>>106499598 (OP)
What are some good distros that I can install the latest stable nvidia drivers without much hassle?

I'm fine with adding 3rd party repositories.

>>106502068
Glad it's working, I've gotta send that list of dependencies over to the gitlab. Btw you can also set the colour of your glass via the desktop effects section of Plasma Settings.

>>106502239
alma linux

>>106502075
>only very little crashes

>>106502234
>Would preloading help
yes. If you have enough RAM you could also store the binary in a ramdisk, it's pretty easy to set up.

>>106502225
>Everything I don't like is Windows
Are you Russian???

>use old abandoned program
>stops building properly
>keep using existing install for some time
>finally sick of seeing build error on emerge
>throw error into chatbot
>gives me a solution
>make a patch for it
>do this once more
>builds and runs
neat

>>106502352
I doubt anyone here hasn't started with Windows, didn't just pick Linux because they didn't like Windows anymore, and has used Linux for longer than couple of years.

>>106502209
It's useless when you can just reset it anyway a lot of the time. Most motherboards do not have very good protection.

>>106502457
i started on ms-dos, didn't really 'pick' linux but rather saw it on a neighbours computer and ended up leaving with a linux cd having never heard of it before, and that was 20 years ago

>>106502482
actually shit, 21 years ago. i'm not anyone you were talking to either.

>>106502482
>>106502494
>ms-dos
>21 years ago
yeah, I kinda doubt that

>>106502585
read my post again

I bought a SuSE CD back in 1997 and have been using SUSE Linux, now in the form of OpenSuSE ever since.

>>106500753
This is why you use longterm instead of "stable" unless you have the latest hardware.

>>106501446
If it's a Polaris (e.g. RX580) card or older, forget it. The only way to get them to idle lower is use them as a secondary headless dGPU (with the iGPU running all outputs) and letting power management turn them "off". Then they'll use somewhere around 5W.
NB: If you have more than one monitor and they run different resolutions/frequency the idle power is even worse, closer to 40W.

>>106502078
Read the title bar.

>>106502266
That won't help, unless you're running software off a hard drive it's just a waste of memory. Unlike Windows, where binaries are memory mapped straight to RAM and pages can be discarded and reloaded later, the ELF format is not so simple and requires all the important parts to get copied to RAM and then shared. Putting binaries on a ramdisk just duplicates shit in RAM so the one-time copying happens from RAM to RAM instead of disk to RAM. If you have any decent SSD, that's pointless.

>>106502819
>If you have any decent SSD, that's pointless.
He said he had a shitty hdd and wanted to make firefox startup times go down from 20s.

>>106502819
Yes, it say RX 580 / polaris10. Maybe I should just buy a new card.

>>106499598 (OP)
>krashing daily every time
This is the peak loonix experience, at the moment. Loonix developers are more intersected in political activism these days than writing a working piece of code.

>>106502190
Unfortunately at that point it would be better to just go with btrfs + swapfile ontop of LUKS.

>>106499753
>I love Windows!!
>>>/g/fwt

>>106502585
Thats not the 21 years ago part hes talking about. And despite XP being the boom and craze back then the majority of pcs couldnt run xp well and stayed on 98 or ME (unless you were lucky to find a win2k sticker somewhere and order a cd for it)

>>106502819
>Read the title bar.
I did. I can't find this thing anywhere.

>>106502060
So why does this crash so much?

>>106503006
>stayed on 98 or ME
yeah, like not ms-dos. You'd have to go back to the mid 90s for that.

>>106503064
Technically that still used DOS underneath. But at that time, most in-the-know already switched to win2k, which was pretty good, except for games.

>>106503032
Blind or mentally handicapped?

>>106503064
Both run dos underneath
>>106503076
Only issue with win2k was that it was expensive compared to ME

>>106503080
This does not exist on my system, Plasma 6.4.4.

>>106501877
>KDE with all its flaws is still the best.
I kind of agree, but every single time I give it a try I encounter some weird bug that stops me from properly daily drive it. Just some weeks ago I had this problem where my fans would go apeshit after screen locking because of high CPU usage, caused by a QT6 bug under X11. I think it's fixed now but I don't want to be dealing with this shit constantly.
>>106502949
>Loonix developers
Developers in general. Have you seen what the Librewolf guys said?

>>106503126
It got pirated.

>>106503136
That's what I'm using, on Arch.

>>106503140
>caused by a QT6 bug under X11
None of the developers even test X11 anymore and KDE Linux is Wayland only. You're bound to run into these issues now and again. They aren't dropping support for X11 yet but nobody is really working on it.

I will never give up on X11.

>>106502981
i'm not sure btrfs plays too well with swapfiles either.

>>106503182
BTRFS plays fine with Swap. I'm not sure where the myth that it doesn't work comes from. Maybe if you were using an ancient kernel you'd have issues but it's fine nowadays.

>>106503168
I know, which is a shame because Wayland on my machine is even worse. I think Plasma will fully drop X11 support for v7 iirc. Aside from that, there's also some small quirks and stuff I don't like about Plasma, but if you like its way of doing things and you don't mind using Wayland, then yeah I guess it's pretty good. I don't like its bloat though.
>>106503179
Same. Have you tried Xlibre?

>>106503224
>Xlibre
No, but it seems just another doomed to fail/obscurity thing because it's out of corporate interests.

>>106503136
it's drkonqi, you can install it from your package manager. my system didn't have it either since i always do minimal installs.

>>106503182
Btrfs plays fine with swapfiles as long as you give it its own subvol and turn off COW

any other distro with something like this?
opening terminal just to perform an update is unacceptable for me

>>106503431
Pretty much every distro?

>>106503431
>opening terminal just to perform an update is unacceptable for me
lolwut

>>106503358
Swap files are never subject to CoW.

>>106503441
like which

>>106503358
>>106503182
There's literally a built-in command for it:
https://man.archlinux.org/man/btrfs-filesystem.8.en#mkswapfile

>>106503639
I think that command is new as i dont remember using it the last time i set up my system

>>106503655
It's been there since November 2022 in 6.0.2:
https://marc.info/?l=linux-btrfs&m=166930827109312

>Ctrl-F "6.15"
>No results
Maybe I've just missed the thread where this was discussed, but what's happening with the Linux kernel update that fucked everyone's Internet connections? Mine is especially hilarious because on my laptop, it disconnects and fucks the laptop only when I come to 4chan. That must be a random coincidence, but I would like to fix it, please. Do I just need to wait for an update?

>>106503693
No idea, I'm on 6.17:
$ uname -a
Linux host.docker.internal 6.17.0-rc3-2-cachyos-rc-lto #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon, 25 Aug 2025 02:14:00 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux

>>106503627
>>106503431
Are you asking if there's a GUI tool to update your whole system? Yes, there is.
Anything using KDE has Discover, and anything using GNOME has GNOME Software.
Universal Blue distros (Aurora, Bazzite, Bluefin, etc.) have a single button called "System Update" which updates system packages, flatpaks, distrobox packages, and several developer package managers.
Is the "Update Manager" specific to Mint or is it a part of the Cinnamon DE? In which case any distro shipping with Cinnamon would have it.

>>106503693
It was talked about. You need to either downgrade or upgrade the kernel.

>>106503693
I'm on 6.15 and my internet works fine, what is this even about?

>>106503431
>>106503723
Cinnamon itself doesn't come with it, I think it's part of Mint. Besides, opening a text box and typing "update" or an equivalent isn't really difficult.

>>106501446

grellm say 48 celcius two fans maybe at 15% barely any power used in gpu

>>106503710
anon edges

>>106501446
set your performance level to low
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/gpu/amdgpu/thermal.html#power-dpm-force-performance-level
will draw almost no power it caps clocks

>>106503765
It doesn't always happen, and I think it depends on the type of Linux you're using. On my version of Fedora, I get the following:
>Everything works fine
>At some point, usually opening a new site, the WiFi switches off and my laptop claims to have a wired connection (which it doesn't)
>No websites load, I am no longer connected, I can't reconnect, shitposting is kill
>Can't even shutdown or reboot the laptop
>"top" command shows gradually increasing load, so it would probably crash if I left it on for long enough
>The only solution is to hold down the power button till the machine goes off
>Switch it back on
>Maybe 50% of the time, it happens again immediately
I am very mad. I saw somewhere that the only fix is to wait for the kernel upgrade to 6.15.5 (or downgrade to the previous version, of course).

>>106499598 (OP)
Is it possible to completely get rid of things like gtk or freedesktop stuff in a Linux system? ever since the xlibre drama I've been curious if it's possible to make the ultimate chud Linux os, completely free of bloat or redhatware. This is mostly a thought experiment, I just think it's funny to see how dependent all modern Linux distributions are on things like systemd, xdg, gtk, etc. and wanted to see if an alternative is even possible (without having to resort to BSD or something).

>>106503927
>>106503765
wtf happened to cause this. is this a common occurence? you have thousands of people working on the kernel, how do bugs like this slip through?

>>106503927
I don't use shitty garbage, only a hermit-tier setup, and I don't have such problems.

>>106503990
Since that trash doesn't actually do anything useful, in theory yes. But in practice Linux devs will just add it as dependency for dubious reasons, so it's like fighting against the stream. In addition, "freedesktop" is very vague, because it's just some sort of hosting site.
What xlibre drama?

>>106503990
install gentoo

>>106503692
Yeah i set up my system way before that
3 years is pretty new

>>106503927
that's not the internet is broken, that's just some wifi driver shitting itself. Obviously, that doesn't affect everyone.

IF YOU USE ARCH YOU ARE A NEET TERMINALLY ONLINE COOMER STOP FORCING THIS SHIT UBUNTU WON

>>106503990
gtk yes, freedesktop is more a general standard that pretty much all guiware conforms to. You could get rid of all such software but it would be pretty pointless.

>>106503639
let's hope ZFS gets this one day!

>>106504025
IF YOU USE GENTOO YOU ARE AN EVEN WORSE FAGGOT GO FUCK YOURSELF

>>106504025
I unironically want ubuntu to win over normies so they fuck that OS up instead of based arch

https://multicorewareinc.com/what-we-do/audio-video-solutions/x266-vvc-encoder/
what happened to it

>>106503990
You can get rid of elogind and replace it with seatd
Polkit is kind of easy to get rid of as well on some distros
Dbus might be difficult to purge
It will be hard to get rid of gtk

>>106504025
>>106504042
fact

>>106504054
>femboy poweeerrrr
KILL YOURSELF NOW

>>106504042
I considered switching from debian to gentoo...

>>106504080
arch doesn't even think about you

>>106504127
>HURRR DURRRRRRRRR TRANSPHOBIA HOMOPHOBIA MUST VALIDATE MUH FAGGOTRY AND COOMERISM AND PORN ADDICTION
if you post images like these then enjoy the insults, woke contagious faggot

>>106503992
I saw an article that I now can't find, which explained that some additional variable was added to the kernel for some new feature, and this has broken things, but they're scared to remove it again in case it breaks other things when they take it out.

>>106504021
This is an interesting theory. Maybe I will check all my processes next time I'm on my laptop and see if I can kill -9 the relevant item.

Uh oh, tripschizo melty!

>>106504150
you are posting those images tho. I never posted images. your a dumbfuck

>>106504155
the wifi driver is not a process, it's a kernel module and can totally bring down your kernel with it.

>>106504177
he is referring to the arch coomunity in general

>>106501446
do you have a high refesh monitor? my gpu memory can't idle properly on my 75hz monitor, but setting it to 60 (or 72 with a kernel parameter) fixed this for me. try using a multiple of 30 or 24 and see if it changes anything.

>>106504171
just hide or filter the posts and move on

>>106504150
You're a retarded pushover NPC.

Is Steam ridiculously inefficient for anyone else? It's by far the chuggiest software I use. If I forget to close it after I launch a game, I lose like 20 fps. It makes my otherwise buttery smooth plasma shell stutter. The app itself is so slow, too. Videos and scrolling are hideous.

Before I try alternate installations, I wanted to get some feedback here first.

How do i install the yaru sound theme for gnome? i am on fedora and it aint working. the ocean sound theme from my kde install is fine but yaru for some reason doesn't work.

>>106504373
Yes. They've given up on making the Steam client reasonably lean. But if it makes you feel any better it's just as buggy and heavy on Windows.

>>106504373
It's extremely bad software engineering. They could have so much, but they refuse to, because every single of them on the team is fucking retarded.

>>106504407
>>106504428
Shite. What a shame. That makes me second guess Valve's commitment to Linux despite the Steam Deck.

>>106504010
>What xlibre drama?
Excuse me for not elaborating. What I meant was the fact that Wayland is being pushed as the new standard, with Xlibre being an attempt to keep X11 alive (which I hope succeeds). So in a way, it's an example of going against the stream while ignoring the [current thing]. This made me wonder what I described in my original post.
>>106504027
>it would be pretty pointless
I know, I'm aware of how Hyperbola Linux handles things for example. It's an interesting way of building a system, but it's barely usable due to this.
>>106504014
>>106504062
I think Gentoo might allow to get rid of that to a certain extent (idk, never used Gentoo before), but then I think about how Firefox requires you to install gtk, so if you want a modern usable browser you pretty much have to install it (unless you go full autism and use Lynx or Surf). What I was trying to say is that, while some anons in this board seem to hate some or all of the components I've mentioned this far, they're pretty much required for a functional Linux system, like it or not.
>>106504397
What problems are you having? I'm not sure about Fedora, but on Arch you can get the "sound theme" from the AUR. The files should be placed at '/usr/share/sounds/' and available in your settings (or whatever Gnome uses).

>>106504373
No. Smells like nVidia.

>>106504428
>>106504516
why would you samefag something like this

>>106499598 (OP)
so im trying to install Arch on the same ssd i have Windows on. I already created a partition for linux but when im in the disk configuration page i cant pick the 2.7 TB I partitioned to use as a root folder to actually install it.

>>106504610
the weird thing is that the sounds do not register. ocean does, both have legit index files, so should work. but it doesnt.
fedora in my case so no aur sadly

>linux mint 22.2
is there a /g/ approved temperature panel app?

>>106499598 (OP)
>printer works without driver
>i can live with onlyoffice
i am on my journey to delete winblows. Anons helped me with selecting OnlyOffice.
Now I have two small problems (debian/kde):
1. PDF viewer
>can't disable js in okular
>no right-click save image like sumatra. can select an area though.
2. Mono/Unity games support
>I don't know where to start
>not that important

>>106504792
>mono games
That a joke?

>>106504647
>disk configuration page
the what?

>>106504811
disk configuration then partitioning thats what its called

>>106504856
Are you using some installer script or something?

>>106504647
probably because you already created the partition
baleet it and try letting the installer create its own partition

>>106504373
There's a more minimal version of the steam client that you can launch that will only show libraries. But what's slowing your stuff down to 20fp isnt actually steam itself but their shitty notifications. If you disable steam notification popups you'll notice it go away.

>>106504880
yeah im using archinstall should i just install it manually?

>>106504920
theres tons of stuff you can do with steam to make it more optimized for linux, like i did for arma3 turns out steam wasnt even using the most optimized drivers, etc and i could manually tweak and download a more autistic version for an increase

>>106504923
never used it, and never trusted an installer to not fuck up the partitions I manually set before installation. Can't you just skip the step?

>>106504944
don't know i'll try partitioning everything myself and installing arch manually should hopefully fix the issue i hve

>>106504792
>mono/unity games
just use Proton or Wine instead of trying to run games natively

>>106505019
Save yourself the headache:

Get another SSD. Install CachyOS. Sharing a drive with Windows is just asking for future pain..

>>106505394
Personally the only thing I've seen happen sharing a drive with Windows was an unclean unmount of the ESP on Windows' part causing its own bootloader to eat shit, which is still amusing to me.

>>106505019
>>106505394
what this guy said
you can get a 240gb kingston ssd for $30
leave your other drives as is, most shit just runs on linux with wine/proton

>>106504810
No, I am a sucker for platformer games.
>>106505217
I had previously (many years ago) ruined a debian install trying to eff around with wine but I rarely had luck getting things to work. Don't ask how I managed to ruin debian.
I'd hate to ruin this install which I am comfortable with.

How do I allow multimedia keys to be used from the xfce4-screensaver locker?

>>106505815
Mono was originally developed to run Microsoft garbage (C++, .net) on Linux. You must be joking.

>>106505905
I am talking about MonoGame, the XNA successor. Are you saying I can easily have windows executables that bundle the entire runtime+libs on debian? My understanding is that mono was merged into coreclr minus the wasm/android/iOS part. I don't know how to install it (nor do I want to ruin my install with hundreds of mono packages)

>>106505815
>I'd hate to ruin this install which I am comfortable with.
Use Bottles

>>106504373
It works like shit on Windows too unless you have at least 2 near idle CPU cores. Disable the notifications, helps a little.

>>106505953
Use flatpak

I want to use Debian, but from your experience how buggy are containers with systemd services? Not sure how well libvirt/qemu will age on Debian's repos (I use a Windows VM for legacy RTOS shit and work with the rare government signed cancer that only Acrobat can open properly) so I want to run those packages inside an LXC or Podman container. That's like the only thing holding me on Fedora. Everything else like the small annoyances from kernel regressions and lack of RPMs for some software keep pilling up.

>>106505969
>>106506029
I am going to install bottles from flatpak

>>106506045
>inside a LXC container
Small typo. Also, what's better between BTRFS assistant and Timeshift for system backups?

>>106506045
>buggy are containers with systemd services?
not at all? what are you thinking is going to be a problem? fedora uses systemd too. and systemd has its own container system that nobody uses if you want to try it
debian is going to be similar to a red hat or rocky linux experience, your packages are going to be older than fedora but most of the modern virtualization and container software has mature features by now.
for some reason red hat removed spice graphics from libvirt, so debian is already going to be better than the more stable rpm distros

>>106506046
Flatpak is downloading @ 60 - 150 kB/s. How to fix this?

>>106504042
Gentoo is the only distro that works for me because I have full control over what goes into it. Moreover. I don''t get issues like >>106498664 because packages are built on my machine to it doesn't matter if the Gentoo infrastructure goes offline. I can even build and update my entire operating system offline providing I have all of the necessary distfiles available locally. Let's see you do that on Ubuntu.

>>106506315
And yes, I know about APT CD ROM package archives (does Canonical even make those available like Debian does?). I doubt they'd work well with half the system being a Snap nowadays, either.

Does Canonical even have freely available tooling that can update a system using both Snaps and APT packages in an air-gapped network completely offline?

If I have 2 ssds, 1 for windows and 1 for linux, can I access files from the windows drive while using linux? For watching movies/playing games and such?

>>106506472
Yes, Linux can read them no problem at all providing your kernel has ntfs support built-in or you use use ntfs3g. Writing data to them is not recommended though, and using it to play games, for example in Steam, can lead to issues sometimes with Steam not liking NTFS or wanting to re-download different files for Linux that Windows doesn't need, etc, so that's not recommended.

>>106500686
APT does.

>>106506521
Does this include packages that aren't installed though? It looks like those are only packages you have available locally.
The nice thing about the way Gentoo implements it with eix is that it gives you a high-level overview of the state of the repository. You can see when new packages are added or when a maintainer bumps a package you don't have installed. It's good for discovering new software.
Maybe there's an RSS feed somewhere for Debian but that might be a bit noisy.

>>106502066
Switch to bsd

>>106502060
Gnome supports HDR too.

>>106502136
You are correct. Fedora has more up to date packages nowadays anyway.

>>106506610
>Does this include packages that aren't installed
No, that would be useless. Gentoo can do that only because it has a fraction of Debian's packages.

>>106506618
So that nothing could work anymore?

>>106506618
BSD has practically the same userland anything above the POSIX layer.

>>106506721
Ok then, switch to chimera linux
>>106506749
No, it dossn't

>>106506811
Same X, same DRM/DRI, same window managers, same desktop environments, what the hell is different?

>>106506832
>fewer drivers and software
>more security

>>106506871
That doesn't have anything to do with desktop software, retard.

I just partitioned one of my ssds to run linux mint. I made the 3 partitions: EFI, swap,and the ext4. For some reason I can see the EFI as a volume when Im on windows. This bothers me. Did I fuck something up, or is this normal. And I realize this is a linux thread but is there a way to hide this volume it bothers me. Thanks

>>106506229
Not sure if i spelled it wrong, but what i actually meant was "containerizing software that normally requires systemd services to run". As i said i'm tempted by the idea of running qemu/libvirt inside a container if i face a problem with the versions packaged by Debian (there's one bug with bridged networks right now i.e. it but at least it requires a simple workaround) i wanted to know if anyone here already has tried this.

>for some reason red hat removed spice graphics from libvirt
I don't know, i installed the virtualization group from Fedora and just worked, extremely retard proof. I guess something there should've installed spice. No complains. Fedora's repos are decently organized and DNF is a nice package manager since the rewrite, but the 6.13 line of Kernels is introducing so many annoying regressions i don't feel it's worth dealing with them right now (for some reason my network perfomance is ass, like less than half than it was a week ago. Doesn't happen on Xubuntu Live nor the other devices i own) If i have to compile kernels or use external repos to avoid them, then why just not use Debian? My hardware is supported, i don't need cutting edge versions of 99% of anything i use (the 1% are development tools that are better served inside a container or installed manually like dotnet anyways) and i can deal with apt's weirdness by using snapshots.
>>106506070
Bump

>>106507167
>Since the 6.13*
Fixed

>>106502745

you are garbage like your materials

>>106507088
Windows only hides the ESP it booted from.

>>106507285
Idk about this does that mean what I am seeing is normal?

What distro will make me want to kms the least

>>106507333
Yes

>>106502114

no
multiple encrypt builds up
ssd might have bitlocker might have software might have and then os hates you and begins defragging ssd

>>106503431
All of them lol. And unlike Shitmint, in every other distro the program that update software is the same program that installs software

>>106502100

who claim lxde is better than xfce?

>>106504647

you do not do such thing computer filthy after other os maybe even bios reflash will not help

What's up with copy-pasting? Sometimes pastes via control-v, via right-MB-paste and via middle-MB-paste result in different content. I just want a single clipboard not multiple

>>106507571
found out half a week ago that it's apparently a hold over from older systems (I think X11), something about the "primary selection clipboard"
since MMB (and RMB) are now used for other functions within Clients, newer shit blocks it for Ctrl V

>>106503212
>I'm not sure where the myth that it doesn't work comes from.
because it literally didn't support them early on. support was added in linux 5.0 iirc. before then the only way to have a swapfile on btrfs was using a loop device, which has reduced performance

>>106507846
>5.0
Jesus. Is that still shaping perceptions of modern Linux? Stuff THAT old? No wonder people still get told to use Mint, or that they can't use their NTFS games drive with Proton.

>>106507902
it's more common than you think, first impressions are huge, especially with people who don't actually regularly use the software in question. they hear something negative or just an apparent fact about it, and it just never gets updated in their mind.
this perhaps happens more often seen in linux-related stuff likely because fewer people here either use linux or use it enough to keep up with changes

>>106507571
>>106507652
it's an X thing, highlight+mouse2 is primary selection, while ctrl+c/ctrl+v is the clipboard. there's also a third "secondary selection", but it's rarely used

>>106499598 (OP)
imagine ricing so much that it crashes your computer.

>>106507902
The average age of 'common knowledge' on computer topics has always been about 10 years.

What can I do to make grub boot faster?

>>106508563
remove it completely and I'm not even joking
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_kernel_image
there's nothig faster than this. have no clue why people still use grub in $current_year

>>106508584 me
you can also have it signed so it works with secure boot. if you have more OSes installed on your PC just use the BIOS boot menu when you need to boot different ones

>>106508563

does grub need to boot anything?

>>106507479
Just one Indian troll on this board.
>>106507373
Aurora or Bazzite, both are made by Universal Blue.

>>106507846
That's like saying ZFS doesn't have encryption because it only got it in 2019 (the same year BTRFS got Swap support).

I guess people can't be bothered to Google something to check if their common knowledge is still up-to-date. I'm guilty of that myself sometimes to be fair but I try to look things up or at least ask an LLM if I'm still right to say that.

>>106508563
Stop using GRUB and start booting EFI-stubs. Also embed everything into the kernel image.
>>106507088
Did you set the partition type correctly?

>>106499753
I always buy extra copies whenever I think about it, just to try to offset Microsoft's losses from piracy.
I encourage others to do the same. Pick up a copy today!!!

>>106508959
They're suffering so badly from losses that they make the .iso image freely available to download and install and use without activation (except the watermark in the corner).

They'll never publicly admit it but unless you're a business they don't care if you pirate it. If you really want to activate it then you can buy a volume key from a shady eBay seller.

>>106508970
There are legit websites that sell keys and they are cheap. But Windows is a sinking shit. Its been downhill ever since they tried to break in to the smartphone scene and failed. They have no talent. Just look at their gaming section, all they can do is buy talent then run it into the dirt.

>>106499598 (OP)
What is the most user friendly Linux for gaming that includes Nvidia support out of the box?

>>106509050
>Just look at their gaming section
XBox is dead. It's funny how they couldn't even make a good handheld to compete with the Linux-powered Steam Deck, they had to brute-force it by partnering with Asus to cram it with better hardware that costs a lot more than the Steam Deck and I bet if Valve ever made a Steam Deck Pro it'd kick its ass.

>>106509050
>Its been downhill ever since they tried to break in to the smartphone scene
since 2002?
windows mobile was fairly successful i'd say, i saw many of them. it's just that smartphones were a niche product at the time in general

>>106509109
Bazzite

>>106505468
I bought a cpu and mb on newegg and got a 512 gb t-force vulcan z ssd for free.

>>106506243
dont use flarpak?

>>106507271
Why so serious?

>>106507373
You can run any distro, your hardware isn't actually bad enough. As the other anon said, you're probably going to have the best time on something like Bazzite, or Aurora if you're not a gamer.

>>106509109
In the past year or two there hasn't been anything more user friendly than Universal Blue systems (Bazzite, Aurora). So, Bazzite is your best choice.

>>106507571
Middle click pastes whatever text you've selected last, without requiring an explicit "copy" action. Each time you mark some text it's automatically remembered and stored in the "middle click clipboard". While the RMB-paste is using your actual clipboard.
You can disable the default middle click behavior, for example in KDE it's under the General Behavior settings section. Then just manually add the middle click as an additional shortcut to paste from your clipboard.

>>106510001
The Gnome apps under KDE look like ass. I recommend bluefin instead.

>>106510007
>Gnome apps under KDE look like ass
Nobody cares about toolkit consistency since most software doesn't use Gtk/Qt for any of their elements.
As for borders and the titlebar, Gtk on KDE doesn't look bad at all unless you start applying random themes. And it looks much better than Qt on GNOME since at least KDE is actively trying to make Gtk software not stick out like a sore thumb. And again, it's not like most people care about any of this.

>>106510058
>Use Plasma scaled to 125% on Aurora
>Open Ptyxis
>Breeze cursor is fuck hueg
>Terminal all wrong
No thx

>>106510068
Why would you use Ptyxis over Konsole the best terminal emulator ever, though?

>>106510118
Because it's the default in Bazzite and Aurora?! Also has more cloud features, like a drop-down list for containers, which is what Bazzite and Aurora aim for.

>>106510068
sounds like a you problem, it works perfectly fine on my end on Bazzite

>>106510118
Ptyxis is a default because UBlue images ship with BoxBuddy (distrobox). Konsole doesn't integrate containers at all, so it's less user-friendly than Ptyxis.
It's not something many people would care about since most people don't use distrobox, but it's reducing the barrier of entry into using distrobox just like BoxBuddy is.

>>106510134
>Konsole doesn't integrate containers at all, so it's less user-friendly than Ptyxis.
Is there a specific need to? Couldn't you just make separate Konsole profiles for each container?

>>106499598 (OP)
>install arch
>find out pacman doesnt install optional dependencies
>if a program doesn't function as expected you have to know which dependencies you have to install apparently

is there a way to get around this?

>>106510141
>Couldn't you just make separate Konsole profiles for each container?
And why would you force the user to do this when you can just ship a terminal emulator which automatically handles this? The whole point of user-friendly distros is that the end user should behave less like a sysadmin and more like a child or a first-time computer user.
And even I as a developer prefer having some of these things handled automatically instead of fucking with configuring the same shit over and over again if I'm using many containers.

>>106510157
Yes, run pacman -Si to look at the optional dependencies and then install them all.

>>106510166
Is there a way I can install them all by copy pasting or do I have to install them one by one?

>>106510182
Copilot says to use expac because --print-format doesn't work with pacman.

Do you can do something like:
pacman -S expac
(Install expac if you don't already have it)

Then:
$ expac -S '%o' vlc
vlc-gui-ncurses vlc-gui-skins2 vlc-plugins-all vlc-plugins-extra vlc-plugins-visualization vlc-plugin-aalib vlc-plugin-aom vlc-plugin-aribb24 vlc-plugin-aribb25 vlc-plugin-ass vlc-plugin-avahi vlc-plugin-bluray vlc-plugin-caca vlc-plugin-cddb vlc-plugin-chromecast vlc-plugin-dca vlc-plugin-dvb vlc-plugin-dvd vlc-plugin-ffmpeg vlc-plugin-firewire vlc-plugin-fluidsynth vlc-plugin-freetype vlc-plugin-gme vlc-plugin-gstreamer vlc-plugin-jack vlc-plugin-kate vlc-plugin-kwallet vlc-plugin-libsecret vlc-plugin-lirc vlc-plugin-live555 vlc-plugin-mad vlc-plugin-matroska vlc-plugin-mdns vlc-plugin-modplug vlc-plugin-mpeg2 vlc-plugin-mtp vlc-plugin-musepack vlc-plugin-nfs vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-quicksync vlc-plugin-samplerate vlc-plugin-sdl vlc-plugin-sftp vlc-plugin-smb vlc-plugin-soxr vlc-plugin-srt vlc-plugin-svg vlc-plugin-udev vlc-plugin-upnp vlc-plugin-x264 vlc-plugin-x265 vlc-plugin-zvbi

You can then install them all using something like:
$ pacman -S --needed $(expac -S '%o' vlc)

>>106510218
thanks anon

>>106510225
I think you should also add --asdeps to install them non-explicitly:
--asdeps
Install packages non-explicitly; in other words, fake their install reason to be installed as a dependency. This is useful for makepkg and other build-from-source tools that need to install dependencies
before building the package.


So something like:
pacman -S --needed --asdeps $(expac -S '%o' vlc)

>>106499598 (OP)
Is there a way for sunshine/moonlight to use a fake virtual display on Linux
The reason I want this is because I stream to multiple devices and I want it to adapt to the various aspect ratios of said devices(phones are 21:9 now, My laptop is 16:10, etc)

>>106503431
Ubuntu has a GUI package updater which appears when you need to update. I dunno about other distros because I haven't used them very much.

The terminal isn't difficult though. When you want to upgrade you just run:

sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y

>>106507373
Use Ubuntu, unironically. It just works. If you don't like GNOME then you can install other DEs from the repos.

>looking for a distro to run on my extremely old laptop that I bring to my trips where I could break it or lose it
>see antiX Linux, looks good
>Proudly anti-fascist "antiX Magic" in an environment suitable for old and new computers.
Why are they like this?

>>106510893
I mean, either get over the dev's beliefs or just use another one like Crunchbang++

>>106510893
They're Italian. Anti fascism is strong there. Bella Ciao!

>>106510918
Yeah I'll just use another one of course. I don't really have any experience with barebones WMs but I was considering that for the laptop (4gb ram and hdd lol). Currently it has xubuntu installed and it's almost fine though.

>>106510995
CB++ uses floating WMs so the learning curve won't be that high at all.

>>106511008
I'll have a look, thanks.

How hard is it to move your install if you reinstall it encrypted and then move your old unencrypted install there? Mostly just the home folder.
Doable? Just delete the new home and put the old one there?

>>106510157
>"""optional"""
>>106503990
How does one use stuff like Firefox without GTK?
t. stupid

>>106511358
Method 1: Use a backup solution like Pika Backup or BackInTime to back up your home folder and then copy it over again
Method 2: Just do the old Copy+C, Copy+V onto an external disk (May be slower than method 1)
Method 3: have separate /home and system partitions, unlock them during installation, and install new system.

>>106507953
>they hear something negative or just an apparent fact about it, and it just never gets updated in their mind.
This applies to hearing something positive, too.
Like the myth that "FreeBSD has built-in ZFS and it works better than on Linux", when GreeBSD actually uses ZFS-on-Linux and it doesn't even work at all on current BSD, unlike Linux.

>>106511465
Ty!

>>106511475
yea, that's something i've heard and believed before as well.

opened my laptop today
broken:
>touchpad
>touchscreen
>wifi and all networking
how the fuck do I fix this? EOS8/Ubuntu 22.04LTS

>>106511801
put them back in and close your laptop

>>106511823
thanks
pretty sure nvidia drivers are the culprit

I can't even fucking get into GRUB by hotkey/editing the configuration file/grub-reboot
fuck this shit I'm installing Win10LTSC

This is why I don't try to use Linux distros and DEs that want to be Windows.

>>106512082
I tried Manjaro but Pantheon doesn't play well with anything that isn't EOS, all other distros have shit font rendering anyway (I'm not spending 5 hours on setting up subpixel rendering) so if I'm gonna have shit fonts I might as well go back to Windows

>>106506045
I dont have any issues with native libvirt on debian oldstable backports. If you want a newer version of libvirt on debian you can just create a rootful distrobox and do it that way.

>>106506811
>chimera linux
Out of all the distros you could recommend. You had to recommend voidlinux2.0

>>106507373
I still use skylakes and my old main pc was a skylake i7 until recently

>>106510131
Its time to stop recommending Bazzite and Aurora when they're clearly not for new users.

>>106510654
Easiest solution would be to use a dummy hdmi plug

>>106510134
The average user won't be using distrobox in the first place...

>>106512441
I never recommended them. For me, Linux Mint just works.

I might be retarded but why is installing the latest Mesa driver(the beta/experimental) is so hard?
Why can't the devs just make a clickable file instead of making the user go through github and 10 thousand console commands?

>>106512712
Mesa is very dependent on system libraries so they can't just make a binary that you can install because it needs to be built for your specific system.
Usually, third-party repositories exist that can give you a prebuilt binary for your system in question (assuming you can't or don't want to compile it yourself)

>>106512712
it's not, at least if you use a good distro like gentoo

someone explain cachyOS to me like im retarded because i constantly see it shilled and have seen dozens of converts to it in other threads
but when i look it up its just arch with an installer and some "optimizations"
is it really that good as a daily driver and for shit like gaming?

>>106512910
It's Arch with a tweaked and modified Linux kernel that adds things like BORE scheduler support and x86_64-v3/v4 focus.

>>106512910
just imagine Arch, but better. Many people's wet dream.

>>106512929
>>106512954
well shit that does seem pretty good actually
might give it a shot in a VM

Main PC died 3 days ago so I'm stuck with an old HP probook (corei 3 gen2, 8gb ram, 500gb hdd). Would Linux Mint improve its performance or is it too old?

>>106513091
This will run literally any Linux distro without issues. You'll have more problems with your web browser hogging all the RAM.

>>106513091
>Mint
Just fucking stop.

>>106508873
>Did you set the partition type correctly?
Can you elaborate a little?

>>106513377
What should I run?

>>106513091
thats how i started using linux. main pc died, had an old laptop that ran like shit, installed ubuntu (only linux i ever heard about) and hey it's not so shit anymore.

if you're stuck with an hdd then linux should be less io intensive for the drive making it more responsive than windows. with an ssd maybe that i3 will run win10 ltsc just fine. there's always linux just in case it doesn't.

>>106513386
not him but ESP's should use the EF00 partition type. partition type isn't something most users will be familiar with, as it's usually set by the tool that creates the partitions and left as the default. if you made the partition manually, it was likely made with the 8300 partition type ("linux filesystem").
it's partition metadata to tell the system what kind of partition it is, windows hides ESPs by default, but it can't do that if it doesn't know it's an ESP

Id like to access the ext4 from windows and also not see the linux EFI folder which is currently auto mounted as volume "E"

>>106513429
I made the first partition after shrinking steam in windows. And then I made them all in the linux installer if that helps.

>>106513444
>I made the first partition after shrinking steam in windows. And then I made them all in the linux installer if that helps.
if it was made in an installer it's probably using the correct partition type code. perhaps windows hides esp's in another way than using said code.
in diskpart which you have open, you could right click the esp and remove the drive letter (aka umount). i forget if this is permanent, i don't use windows

>>106513541
its greyed out

>>106513609
idk maybe ask the windows thread

best distro for thinkpad p15?

>>106513407
https://getaurora.dev/>>106513626

>>106513429
>ESP's should use the EF00 partition type.
is that important?

>>106506046
Bottles on board and 100% working! Next problem: xboxdrv doesn't recognize my Generic USB joystick.
I used to emulate an xbox joystick on window and that worked just fine. I can't find any "controller" options in Bottles like some sources on the internet suggest.
>>106509349
Can't do that, anon. I won't trash my system with gigs of bloat and i386 compatibility.

>>106513649
so, you put gigs of bloat inside a flatpak on it?

>>106513091
Mint should be ok, maybe use mint XFCE instead

>>106513407
Ignore the anti-mint schizo.

>>106513407
Ignore the pro-mint schizo.