Thread 106508841

>>106508841 (OP)
Sweet, when everyone dumps them on eBay I can upgrade my Linux machine to a 1080 Ti.

Its not that they stop working right away, they don't have api to support new games already, I used an HD4870 with windows 11 for a while

Can't wait, then I'll finally be able to install the legacy gaming driver on my P40 and use it for PhysX.

>>106508841 (OP)
Yolks on jew, 1080 Ti is still plenty for every game on the planet worth playing - even with its launch driver.
All this "driver" updooting is copium, Your shit either works, or it does not. If it does not, it's the dev's fault. If the devs are absolutely fucking retarded and NVIDIA can step in to fix one of their mistakes, you might see your FPS double.

Under no circumstance is a driver update ever mandatory. It's basically workaround after workaround after workaround, proper games run fine with drivers literally and I mean literally a decade old. There's never a valid reason to upgrade your graphics drivers, I'm not saying there's never a practical reason, but if your shit works you'll never need a new one. This shit doesn't rot over time. Only shit devs can fuck things up.

Stop playing AAA games with hundred million dollar budgets that can't even abide by standards and work on functioning graphics cards without a copium patch.

1080 Ti is plenty good and will remain so for the next 20 years easy.

>>106509297
some games are just garbage but what else can you do
i remember having some driver updates break physx on borderlands 2 on my 1080ti while older ones would work

>>106509320
>NJUDEA: SAAR WE OPTIMIZED
>Consumer: FPS went up, but we lost features... when will we get PhysX back?
>NJUDEA: DLSS FRAME GEN DLDLSS UPSCALE FXAA TAA AI AI AI AI!!! why do you want lower FPS? Buy a 5090, no you can't have PhysX.
>Consumer: I want my game to look how it did 10 years ago, why did you take that away from me?
>NJUDEA: SHUT THE FUCK UP WHY DO YOU HATE CHANGE??????
It's actually hilarious at this point.

Remember kids, anything not standard is never going to last.
NVIDIA shit might be shilled hard and full of proprietary tech that makes AMD seem like it's missing out at times, but none of this proprietary stuff ever lasts. It's always a meme.
Havok was always better than PhysX, Havok games still work on any GPU. Even Intel's GPUs for fucks sake. When NVIDIA takes their PhysX shit away, you have no recourse. Avoid games that bow to NVIDIA and implement shitty proprietary solutions instead of time-tested methods.

>>106509297
retarded take. driver updates are important for new vulkan and directx features. 9 and 10 series cards set the baseline for what developers can universally work with

>>106508841 (OP)
I already "upgraded" to a RTX 5080. What should I repurpose the 1080 Ti for?

>>106510814
Dedicated physx card on the second slot.

Nvidia dropping support for my GPU is the reason why I'll never consider buying GPU without decent FOSS support again.

what's the deal with pascal on linux? I've read before that the open source driver doesn't support it(?)

If I put one in and boot Nobara, would it work as well as windows?

>>106509007
hopefully it drives the used market down, cuz years old shit is expensive as fuck

>>106510828
I already have a 970 for that.

>>106509368
PhysX wasn't removed you dunce. The problem is that 32-bit CUDA dependencies were removed from Blackwell and onwards. It is force to run in CPU only. This was done for the professional scene to force those customer migrate to newer platforms. There's nothing stopping Nvidia or somebody to create a translation layer from legacy stuff if it matters that much.
In practice this impacts almost nobody. Nobody gives a shit about almost 20 year old content not running as fast it "could".
>>106509381
Sweetie, they haven't been the baseline for some time. PS5/XSX already moved that goalpost. Their successors will have platform that will require more VRAM capacity (16GiB minimal )and mandatory mesh rendering and meme-tracing. Maxwell/Pascal are completely cooked and are joining their legacy predecessors. It doesn't matter because vast majority of /v/tards will be running something much newer by then.

>>106509368
Nothing last forever in computing not even standards. Ecosystems are as finite as their hardware, users and developers. We are going to see that more of the hard stops when baby boomer/older generation X types retire and die along with their knowledge on legacy platforms that have long been depreciated.

>>106510899
It is only expensive, but it is a just a front for low-key money laundering/drug smuggling.
The hardware that ewaste "traders" are peddling are actual worth a fraction on what they are trying to command.

>>106508841 (OP)
Why aren't there such a strong 3rd party driver community for nvidia like it is for AMD when there are so much more nvidia cards?

>>106509297
>1080 Ti is still plenty for every game on the planet worth playing
I could not play cyberpunk on the lowest settings on my 1050 gpu passthrough vm
it was a literal slideshow
it went smoother after I upgraded it to a 3050

>>106511107
>In practice this impacts almost nobody. Nobody gives a shit about almost 20 year old content not running as fast it "could".

>Yes you must only consume the new correct AAA slop, why even care about anything from before

>>106511155
Because Nvidia cards need closed encrypted blobs and the drivers are fully closed unlike AMD

>>106511182
>lowest settings
and I mean lowest settings
I had the resolution set to like 1024x768 for like deus ex graphics and it was still not enough
even hacky stuff like disabling graphics things with unsupported ini file edits

>>106511182
Incredibly insightful anon, it's almost like the 1050 was the lowest performance bargain bin GPU of the time

>>106508841 (OP)
>Game Ready
it's not like you could run any new AAA games with those

>>106511182
>1050 bad
>therefore 1080 Ti also bad

>>106511206
Sorry baby, that's how the gayming world has already operated. Legacy content inevitably gets depreciated and forgotten. Outside of historians, nobody gives a rat's ass. Your cherished content will face the same fate as you grow old and inevitably die.

>>106511182
>gpu passthrough
why not just use wine or proton ?

>>106511218
uhhh it worked amazingly for legolegends and all the other games I played like talos principle or hat in time or even overwatch
but it just could not do cyberpunk

>>106511233
I am not running a russian repack exe on my host os lol

>>106511240
ok but the 3050 was €180 and like the next step up was €300-400+
if I am spending €300+ I might as well go all out with 24-48GB of vram instead of halfassing it
but I did not need it right now so I might as well hold off on a big upgrade

>>106508841 (OP)
I stopped updating my gpu a few months ago when stability problem started, is it safe to upgrade now? (4080)

>>106508841 (OP)
1080Ti is already extremely dated and gets easily outpaced by low-end modern SKUs in every metric.
It is time to let it go.

>>106511240
oh also I have the 6GB 3050 not the 8GB one

When shall we move to 128 bits? Things are not moving fast enough.

>>106511182
The 1080ti outperforms the 3060 in most games.

>>106511298
>he spent actual money for 3050 6GB
You're just baiting right?

>>106511182
>1050
Anon... 1080 Ti is 4x faster and has 4.5x as much VRAM

>>106508841 (OP)
>optimized drivers
retarded anyway you optimize your software for my hardware not the other way around lmao

>>106511254
>>106511298
RTX 3050 8GB would've been 25% faster and RX 6600 50% faster, both are only a little more expensive than the RTX 3050 6GB.
RTX 3050 6GB only makes some sense if you require slot powered or low profile (or if you're going for passive).

>>106511568
>>106511384

>>106511568
yeah but 8GB is more expensive so at that point the 3060/3080 stuff is on the table and at some point you just have to say nah 3050 is enough

>>106510851
>going to linux for graphics drivers
anon pls

pls

>>106511107
>Nobody gives a shit about almost 20 year old content not running as fast it "could".
there is a difference between a game not running at 10000 fps and it being humiliated by EIGHT fucking generations old GPU

>>106511975
forgot the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4w_aObRzCc

>>106508841 (OP)
>oh no my ancient card wont get the newest placebo drivers
Still on 431.60 and all womm

>>106511107
I know you have callused lips and blisters on your nose from constantly sucking NVIDIA's dick and brown nosing them, but guess what?
You're wrong and we all know you're wrong.

>PhysX wasn't removed you dunce.
>It is force to run in CPU only.
This means it was removed.
There has never been a single game where running PhysX on the CPU was viable. NVIDIA went to great lengths to make CPU PhysX unusable in order to make AMD setups look bad, and to try and convince people to buy dedicated PhysX cards just for the feature.
We're so far into the future now and CPUs still can't run PhysX well because it was designed to run off of GPUs.

>almost nobody
Nobody but the 100% of people who might want to run games that used to run with PhysX enabled after they buy a new card but for some reason can't, OY VEY STOP PLAYING OLD GAMES, BUY THE NEW ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY DO YOU HATE CHANGE????????
Only NVIDIA has problems like these due to their proprietary anti-consumer predatory bullshit.

>>106511240
these poorfags are clinging to a card worse than a 5050 lmao

I don't even know if this is poorfaggotry. Everyone ITT can afford a 5050. This is just some autistic rage seething kek

>>106510899
>he didn't buy a dozen 1080Ti's when they went for 100€ each when people thought the 3000 series would be cheap
ngmi

Yeah but I'm not going to upgrade from my Titan xp until I get 200% performance for 350 dollars. That's the way my GPU upgrades have always worked, and will always work.

>>106511182
>this card is good
>well, my inferior GPU wasn't good
huh?
1080ti was a great card for the time. the other post is delusional and this card wont be fucking shit in 20 years unless you're just playing 20 year old games which no shit lol. one of my older rigs with a 670 still works for 2nd player coop that I still loan to people for lans where we play mostly games from ~10 years ago. Everything older than that was ewaste tier.

>>106511138
explain how you smuggle drugs by selling overpriced hardware on ebay

>>106512437
>"upgrading" to a card that's barely faster than your old one
yeah better just throw away money

>>106512711
with less vram too

ok well explain how the 1050 was a slideshow while the 3050 is pretty smooth for just €180

>>106512803
Because you basically bought a worse 1080ti

>>106509297
Agreed, these things are already plenty powerful for anything that isn't dedicated compute.

>>106512818
but the 1080 has like none of the hwaccel stuff of the 3050 plus it is end-of-support soon plus probably a bigger power hog and takes more space and heat
and I bet it costs more

>>106511219
I was running BattleField 6 at 1440p and default setting and it was fine

>>106508841 (OP)
Crazy that it's 8 years old

>>106512803
because the 3050 is a much newer card and the 1050 was a mediocre budget card even when it was released? Nobody is pushing the 1050 as a budget or good card in 2025, people are discussing the 1080ti as "still a good or good enough card" despite it being old. Possibly a budget card option if you could find one for $100-150 or something used but at that point just buy a 5050.

>>106512437
5050 is roughly on par with a 1080ti despite being what like 6-7 years newer? Do you people just look at the first number and assume that makes it a better card worth dropping money on?

>>106508841 (OP)
Shit is over for them
All that talk is gonna end once the drivers stop, it always does.

>>106512885
yeah but the 5050 is like 2-3x the price of the 3050

>>106512905

it has 2-3x the frames generated between real frames. it's fair pricing

>>106512885
>5050 is roughly on par with a 1080ti despite being what like 6-7 years newer?
worst of all 1080ti has more vram

>>106511182
anon a 1080ti is like 3x faster than a 1050

insane this thread people with a xx80 class card talking about the xx50 class and discussing which one is better

crazy how many anon have felled for him

>>106511241
that's what bubblewrap is for

>>106512970
Anons with older 80 class cards are the perfect demographic to consider newer 50 class as I'd argue your card becomes the equivalent of one class lower every new gen, so 1080 becomes 3060 or so etc.

>>106512970
some people don't understand gpu model numbers. more than once i've had to explain to someone why for example a "580" is better than a "650". they just see the whole number or that newer=better, which is understandable to be fair. gpu generations having massive overlap with adjacent generations only makes sense if you learn why it's like that

>>106512970
>>106512976
There are actually a lot of people who only look at the first number and assume it must make all previous cards obsolete. I run into them all of the time IRL. Including someone who upgraded a 1080 to a 3050

>>106508841 (OP)
Just got gifted a RTX3080, quite the upgrade from my GTX970. Good night sweet prince you did your time diligently.

>>106513034
>>106512976
>>106512965
it is me with the 1050
if you wanna know I had an 8800 gts until I bought a 950
then I added a second 1050 to use in vms
and now I replaced the 950 with a 3050 to use the 3050 in vms while my host uses the 1050

I just feel like if I were to get anything bigger I might as well go all the way
but nothing around right now feels like it is worth going all the way for

why do people keep saying a 5070 is actually a 5060

Mine was artifacting in 2021 and got replaced with a 3060 ti anyways

>>106511182
Bait or retard, but I'll bite - I finished Cyberpunk 2077 2 years ago on my 1070. Med-High settings. I replaced it recently with a 4070. Currently replaying CP2077 for a different ending and to see all the new content. I kept my 1070 around, I've used it daily for almost 8 years, it's a good boy and had a good run.

>>106512857
>hwaccel stuff
1080 Ti only lacks AV1 and some shit that's irrelevant if you're not editing video from camera (H.264/H.265 4:2:2)
>I bet it costs more
not if you already own it

>>106512905
here 5050 costs only 33% more than 3050 6GB and 15% more than 3050 8GB
and 5050 is 66% faster than 3050 6GB and 33% faster than 3050 8GB
so it's actually much better performance per price
which isn't to say the 5050 is that great, the 3050 is just that overpriced for what it is

>>106513151
>(H.264/H.265 4:2:2)
>irrelevant
yeahhhh no

>>106513025
I don't know people that buy 80 class cards that ever buy 50 and 60 class cards, at least not for their main PC.
I see 60 class buyers buy a 60 class card every other generation, things are weird now if you're saying people that buy 80 class don't do that now. What is a 5080, $1000? What is a 1080ti in todays money?

>>106513157
>if you're not editing video from camera
great reading comprehension

it's over lads, we cant gayme anymore

>>106508841 (OP)
Not replacing my GTX 1070 until 10 years of service.

>>106513163
damn

Still not upgrading from my 980Ti

>>106508841 (OP)
so some new games might not work (but might not work anyway due to performance)
so this is basically irrelevant

>>106512982
thanks anon, i've been wondering since seeing that package name yesterday

>>106508841 (OP)
1080ti was always a cope card. Would rather be forced to use a 2060 or 3050

>>106509297
trvke. absolute trvth nvke. it will play any game at 1080p that is worth playing. You may need to repaste the gpu doe.

Just install latest linux mint cinnamon and use the driver manager.

>>106510814
Looking glass VM

>>106508841 (OP)
>when your corporation is so inept at creating drivers for computers to support their own fucking cards
>with the most convoluted and inefficient APIs imaginable
>that they need to issue their own performance patches to force games to perform better
>for every fucking game
cringe shit

>>106514726
anything worth playing already runs well on my 750ti at 1080p60 or faster

>>106509297
unironically based and true
still gonna upgrade my main to the 5060 ti 16gb, but the 1080 is not being retired yet, still gonna use it in my secondary for streaming 4k mkv's and whatnot.

>>106511182
>cyberpunk
you're a goyslop enjoyer, your viewpoint is invalid.

>>106514951
but this game is kind of sovlful at times

>>106514904
>t-there's nothing new worth playing anyway!
look, we get it. you're poor. no need to cope

>>106508841 (OP)

imagine paying $2000 for this fucking shit.
There is NO real reason to do this except to force new purchases and create e-waste.

>>106508841 (OP)
>AMD discontinue drive development for GCN or polaris and vega cards years ago
>AMD still sold vega APUs in 2022
>Nvidia 8 years later discontinue just gamer optimizer drives and newest version for CUDA or newest drivers but still support Maxwell and Pascal drivers for more years
Nvidia support for GPU drivers is like 12 to 15 years old until move to legacy and still you get security bug fixed for almost 20 years.

>>106512346
It wasn't removed. It is 32-bit CUDA that were never written for Blackwell family because Nviida wants its professional crowd up upgrade and move from 32-bit platforms. It is too bad older implementations of PhysX depends on this and got impacted. There's nothing stopping Nviida or another party to create a translation layer if there is enough fuss about it. In practice, nobody really gives a crap outside of rage-baiting.
All hardware vendors gradually abandon support for legacy platform and it is much more rapid if it doesn't involved enterprise customers a.k.a not silly gaymers.

>>106511975
Nobody cares outside of rage-batting. It is entirely because Nvidia intentionally crippled their CPU-only PhyX implementation. Just to promote sales of their GPUs. Welcome to what the rest of people outside of Nvidia's ecosystem had to ensure.

>>106509297
If you want perpetual support for what the hardware is actually capable of your best bet is unironically an AMD card on linux.

>>106517295
The A in AMD stands for Abandonware, at least as far as radeon is concerned

>>106512346
>There has never been a single game where running PhysX on the CPU was viable. NVIDIA went to great lengths to make CPU PhysX unusable in order to make AMD setups look bad, and to try and convince people to buy dedicated PhysX cards just for the feature.
you'd think they could at least now release a build of the cpu backend that doesn't deliberately use only 8087 instructions to keep performance to a minimum. only thing that would do is be an admission that it was made as slow as possible on purpose, but everyone who cares already knows this anyway

>>106517346
not on linux, like he said

>>106517346
>>106518960
or if that's too new, how about this one?

Thanks but I'm sticking with my RX 580.

>>106508841 (OP)
does this include by beautiful baoi the gtx 1060?

>>106519061
Yes, Nvidia move for Maxwell and Pascal Arch.

>>106509297
massive poorfag cope by an ESL

>>106512437
Its just 3rd world jeets seething because the e waste they bought from china is now not supported

>>106518960
>>106518980
Those are independent community drivers, not provided by AMD

>>106511182
I can still play CP77 on max settings minus memetracing at 1920*1200 just fine with 40-60FPS average. It would tank rarely due to the garbage that is the game. The nvidia boost shit, whatever that does it's even smoother.

>>106512437
The vram is more important than the speed of the card to me.

>>106520419
nobody claimed amd is maintaining them, he only said if you want really long support, use an amd card on linux

Still using a GTX Titan. No new game has captived me enough to upgrade.

>>106508841 (OP)
And it will be still expensive here. Fuck this gay market.

>>106509297
Reddit take + Reddit spacing = go back poorshit.
Captcha: GAAA4Y