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Anonymous No.106518060 >>106518110 >>106518183 >>106519053 >>106519169 >>106519194 >>106519666 >>106519780 >>106521109 >>106521653 >>106521692 >>106521704 >>106522602 >>106522635 >>106522873 >>106522895 >>106523147 >>106523585 >>106525376 >>106525414 >>106526680 >>106527843 >>106527984 >>106528584 >>106528803 >>106532785 >>106533537
lmao, i can't believe i used to pay artists hundreds of dollars for artwork

do you feel bad for artists?
Anonymous No.106518090
Now we get to pay Google hundreds of dollars for Veo 3.
Anonymous No.106518096 >>106518213 >>106519409 >>106520926
>28 generation attempts later...
Anonymous No.106518110 >>106518195 >>106521201 >>106522143
>>106518060 (OP)
artists don't feel bad for us, so it clearly isn't a AI problem fundamentally thanks to that
Anonymous No.106518183
>>106518060 (OP)
No. They can all fuck off.
Anonymous No.106518195 >>106518211
>he went out of his way to spent "HUNDREDS of dollars" for art
retard.
>giving any of this attention
another retard. you two should kiss.

>>106518110
>artists don't feel bad for us
correct!
Anonymous No.106518211 >>106518231
>>106518195
>>he went out of his way to spent "HUNDREDS of dollars" for art
i needed art for my website, everybody paid for graphic art years ago
Anonymous No.106518213 >>106518227 >>106521031 >>106521642
>>106518096
>28 generation attempts
>3-5 seconds per gen
>total time: 140 seconds
>total cost: 3 cents in electricity
hmmmm
Anonymous No.106518227 >>106518232 >>106519013 >>106519222 >>106520347 >>106520376
>>106518213
>1024x1024
Anonymous No.106518231 >>106521732
>>106518211
and you just HAD to spend "hundreds of dollars", right?
Anonymous No.106518232
>>106518227
sry not catching your meaning
probably some kind of weird cope though based on ignorance
Anonymous No.106519013 >>106538199 >>106538408
>>106518227
> Use AI uspcaler to make it a 1 GB 258000 x 258000 photo that doesn't pixelate because AI
Checkmate, paint piggy
Anonymous No.106519053 >>106526901
>>106518060 (OP)
>do you feel bad for artists?
no, good artists are fine
Anonymous No.106519169
>>106518060 (OP)
>do you feel bad for artists?
no, they're still able to draw to their heart's content
Anonymous No.106519194 >>106527750
>>106518060 (OP)
if anything, i'm going to be getting back in to art
slop has inspired me to leave the corners of the internet filled with it
Anonymous No.106519217 >>106519231
you never spent any amount of money for art ever in your life
in fact you are a complete poorfag that could not even afford to do so if you wanted
you simply wanted to ragebait because you are so poor that you cannot afford anything better to do
Anonymous No.106519222 >>106521139
>>106518227
Takes 12s to gen a full 1920x1152px image with all parameters set for max quality possible with noobai highresfix double pass workflow that produces prod ready images at the end, without any extra special optimizations on my 400$ used 3090.

Depending on your GPU, optimizations, model and workflows used, you can basically gen at real time for the first pass where you pick which image you like before deciding to go forward with that one to the end and modify it further with inpainting and 4k upscaling.
Let alone letting it run overnight and collecting thousands of images to just go through instantly and pick which ones you want in the morning away lmao.

And this was basically possible since year one anyway, it never began for paintpiggies.
Anonymous No.106519231 >>106519460 >>106523544
>>106519217
Entry level AI rigs cost 1.5k$ minimum already doe
Anonymous No.106519409 >>106520103
>>106518096
I'll just take a shit while it's running
Anonymous No.106519460 >>106519627
>>106519231
Good thing you can rent them for a few cents per minute
Anonymous No.106519627
>>106519460
You're gonna spend more on renting then than buying a gpu that you will use for 5+ years and will be able to use for gaming, video/image editing and everything else anyway
Anonymous No.106519666
>>106518060 (OP)
>do you feel bad for artists?
Only if she's a Japanese and draw a lot of hentai.
Anonymous No.106519780
>>106518060 (OP)
lmao the AI video got like 10x more views
Anonymous No.106520103 >>106520791 >>106526708
>>106519409
Seems redundant.
Anonymous No.106520145 >>106520352 >>106521046 >>106527787 >>106529291
Not in the slighest.

Artists have been gatekeeping creativity for millennia. Now, it's OUR TIME TO SHINE.
Anonymous No.106520347
>>106518227
more than enough for my 1024x768 screen.
Anonymous No.106520352 >>106520388 >>106522665
>>106520145
Gatekeeping? The only thing that was holding you down was your complete lack of skill and talent. AI slop is not going to change that.
Anonymous No.106520376
>>106518227
-- at a time, i'm by no means an expert, but i've done some successful "upscales" by means of generating an image using multiple 1024x1024 tiles.
Anonymous No.106520388 >>106520542 >>106520940 >>106521068 >>106522500 >>106527879 >>106532335 >>106533297 >>106536739
>>106520352
Taking the bait: Creativity is in the head, not in the material world.
It is created in a person's head, and is shared to other people's heads over a medium ("art" in this case).
There are tons of people with creativity in their heads, who don't have the time or will to invest years into a craft to share them to other people's heads.
But with AI, anyone can communicate their creative ideas to other people without having to invest years into some unrelated craft like rubbing pencils on paper.
Anonymous No.106520542 >>106533297
>>106520388
This.
While ideasguys are generally mocked, they are only mocked by people who try to gatekeep and usually lack those skills themselves, they're usually the entrylevel retards who settle for being shit, aka deviantfart tier shartists.
It's funny that the majority of the time I see people whining the loudest about AI generation are usually the shittiest ones who use their niche "talents" to make fetish shit.
Furries are screeching hardcore over it because their Patreon bennies have been gutted. kek
I saw one particularly hilarious case of this of a furry screeching about some diaper brand supposedly using AI for an adult diaper design... on Instagram on the announcement post that was immediately after a video of their artist DRAWING THE FUCKING DESIGN.
Elitist scum piss me off and ruin so many industries that it isn't even funny.
Worse yet, I've seen so many of these very same people screech at AI for "mass theft", then they go and stream or post videos of them going on to Google and copying images in to canvases and sketching over them to come up with ideas, not even images off of stock sites either, nor were they paying for them.
Some people consider Google itself of mass theft for web-scraping.
Motherfuckers can't stand on some moral highground while doing the exact same workflows the AI performs.

AI is a tool, it's auto-complete, it's a wizard, it's mish-mashing others works together which is an entire art style itself - photomontages allowed the expression of ideas, parodies and so on.
Would I use it in a work? Dunno, haven't found a use for it nor found a good way to integrate it smoothly.
AI code gen is ass but I've sure learned a lot of new techniques through asking.

t. artist and software dev who doesn't associate with most of the community any more because they are insufferable clowns and hypocrites.
Anonymous No.106520791
>>106520103
not if I need to take a shit.
Anonymous No.106520926 >>106521144 >>106542878
>>106518096
That sounds like soul crushing office task, wouldn't it be more satisfying to actually draw? OP's image is not even complex/hard enough to justify using ai.

Plus in the long term the drawfags can actually improve their skill. How do prompt engineers improve on prompting skills?
Anonymous No.106520940
>>106520388
not him, and i completely agree with you, but there's a flip side to this as well, or rather an alternative view of the same issue. that is, ai art tools are /not/ a replacement for creativity. i know this first-hand because i know i'm not a creative person. i could learn to draw, but i don't really have any ideas of what i'd want to draw. and even being introduced to ai image generation, i still don't know what i'd like to generate.
so i agree with you, art is the sharing of ideas, and it doesn't matter at all how that is done. pen, paint, or prompt. the substance is in the ideas that come before the implementation. ai art can absolutely be creative because the creativity was never in the drawing itself, that comes before you start drawing anything.
personally. if you have a compelling idea if what image you want, it doesn't matter how you make it.
Anonymous No.106521031 >>106523358
>>106518213
>normal art
>"hmmm what if I add something new in my pic? I'll just add it!"
>AIjeet "art"
>"saaar I can't add anything without messing the whole thing even after regenerating a hundred times saar"
Anonymous No.106521046 >>106521071
>>106520145
>gatekeeping creativity
What the fuck does this even mean? Gatekeeping what, how? Just learn to draw, retard.
Your brain is completely rotten from the garbage your read online.
Anonymous No.106521068 >>106521316 >>106521326
>>106520388
Then HOW are they "gatekeeping" it, moron? Are they force feeding you with meds so your head will stop working?
>who don't have the time or will
Then they don't have, nor need to share anything. Useless, lazy cattle with no drive nor aspirations.
"You see, I can be a millionaire but I am so lazy and don't have the time! Therefore I am entitled to free money!"
>But with AI, anyone can communicate their creative ideas to other people without having to invest years into some unrelated craft like rubbing pencils on paper.
I wish.
Anonymous No.106521071 >>106521086
>>106521046
but it's haaaaard....and takes tiiiime....my time is precious and I can't be wasting it on learning to draw :(
Anonymous No.106521086 >>106521101
>>106521071
You are wasting it on endless scrolling online and wasting days on nothing, leeching welfare and getting fatter and fatter.
Excuses, you don't want to draw, you don't need it. Nobody is holding you back, especially in modernity, where you have all the time and money on your hands. In first world, you don't even need to work to get housing and food.
Anonymous No.106521101 >>106521113
>>106521086
FUCK YOU my mom supporting my NEET lifestyle doesn't mean I have "free time" as you perceive it
AI just lets me enjoy life without any hassle!
Anonymous No.106521109
>>106518060 (OP)
>my art
Not anymore! LOL
Anonymous No.106521113
>>106521101
Diapers also let you enjoy your turds without any hassle. Disgusting, useless pig in a pen.
Anonymous No.106521139
>>106519222
You can locally generate images on an iPhone these days, they're basically pocket RTX 3050 8GBs.
Anonymous No.106521144
>>106520926
It's not just about prompting, but you can get better at that by learning about the nuances of how the models you use respond to different words or prompting styles. You can also learn about new things to prompt for (art styles, angles, lighting, etc). And you can further develop your taste and discernment to better pick between generated options.

A modicum of drawing ability is also very useful for inpainting, and will allow you to create input images, so being good at drawing will also improve your ability to create AI images. AI artists should absolutely pick up a pencil, but they should also keep diffusing.
Anonymous No.106521201 >>106522675
>>106518110
Artists were luddites since the beginning on average, hence why large chunk of fiction actually taking AI and automation seriously is strongly against it. The word robot came from theatrical play about how we automate all work with robots and then the robots realise humans are useless and kill us. The idea that AI is bad is older then the idea of AI itself.
Anonymous No.106521316 >>106521329 >>106522552
>>106521068
>Then HOW are they "gatekeeping" it
By relentlessly attacking everyone and everything that uses AI instead of doing it "their way"? That should be obvious.
Anonymous No.106521326 >>106521348
>>106521068
Also,
>Then they don't have, nor need to share anything.
What you just said is gatekeeping. You're guilty of it with that very sentence.
Anonymous No.106521329
>>106521316
>Artists have been gatekeeping creativity for millennia.
"AI" wasn't here for millennia, moron.
Anonymous No.106521348 >>106521406
>>106521326
>I want a thing, but I don't want to work for it or do anything at all to get it, I DEMAND to be given!
>Well, then you don't want it all that much
>AAAAAAAA! SQUEAL! SQUEAL! AAAAAAAA!
Shits like you is why fathers need to beat their male kids and why bullying is sometimes very beneficial.
Anonymous No.106521406 >>106521454
>>106521348
You're still gatekeeping
>I do thing the easy way
>"AAAAAAA WHY AREN'T YOU DOING IT THE CUMBERSOME WAY LIKE I AM!!! AAAAAAAA! SQUEAL! SQUEAL! AAAAAAAA!
Anonymous No.106521454 >>106521516
>>106521406
You are free to do anything you want, learn any skill and draw anything you want. WHO and HOW is gatekeeping what, retarded mutt?
>I do thing the easy way
You aren't doing anything. Pressing a button to get random result is an act of consuming slop, that gives your useless ego a boost and an illusion that you "did" something. You have no control over anything, just pressing a button and getting slop thrown at you.
Anonymous No.106521516
>>106521454
I'm a different anon (which doesn't use AI) but have you tried local genning with professional setups? Comfy-UI looks extremely cumbersome. Outputs are really customizable beyond "write a prompt and press a button".
Genning is another skillset akin to drawing, maybe equally challenging. I myself prefer drawing because it's comparatively the easier route. Not sure why you all feel the need to cope so hard about this. Is it because your income depends on your outputs?
Anonymous No.106521642 >>106540722
>>106518213
Yes, hundreds of dollars for graphic assets for a website was very normal. It's also not a lot of money. You can tell you're a neet or underage if you think that's a big deal in any way.
Anonymous No.106521653
>>106518060 (OP)
I still kek how AI is just copyright whitewashing at this point.
Anonymous No.106521692 >>106521724 >>106534042
>>106518060 (OP)
the art you're seeing is in that post is literally just the original artwork posted by the artist but poorly animated by AI. The shitty animation is not shown in the screenshot ofc.
He is not mad at AI making a nice looking artwork and putting him out of a job or some shit, hes mad some retard is making what is essentially one of those ugly interpolated 60FPS anime clips out of his artwork.
Anonymous No.106521704 >>106521716 >>106521776
>>106518060 (OP)
the people claiming AI can replace artists are the same people who claim that mcdonalds or cup-o-noodles can replace restaurants (fat stinky retarded autists.)
Anonymous No.106521716
>>106521704
It's different here because AI makes better art than 99.9% of artists out there.
Twitter artists are already the mcdonalds of artists, that's why they're shitting themselves so hard.
Anonymous No.106521724
>>106521692
despite a certain group largely populating this board, /g/ still doesn't understand the concept of "bastardization" and/or "pride".
Anonymous No.106521732 >>106521750
>>106518231
>no answer
Anonymous No.106521750 >>106521903
>>106521732
not him, but yea, art used to be really expensive
Anonymous No.106521776 >>106521792
>>106521704
99.999% of modern "artists" are making slop worse than AI. Good riddance.
Anonymous No.106521792 >>106521943
>>106521776
This just in: Majority of people practicing an art are... complete garbage?

amazing thread.
Anonymous No.106521903 >>106521933
>>106521750
>used to be
exactly.
Anonymous No.106521933
>>106521903
yea, that's my and his point. "needed" and "had" are both past tense. he had to, because there wasn't a cheaper option than paying an artist hundreds. now you don't.
Anonymous No.106521943
>>106521792
most ai art is shit.
... most non-ai art is also shit.

not really sure why they think this is a good argument for them
Anonymous No.106522143 >>106522225
>>106518110
>artists don't feel bad for us
Why should they? When this shit was first kicking off /g/ was filled with anti-artist "should have learned to coooode", "get a real job", and "programming will never be replaced" posts. Instead of working together toward a command goal you retards decided to shit fling back and forth for years like good little cattle. It was programmers first move not to be dicks but you failed at it so now don't expect any kindness in return and as someone on both sides its sad to see.
Anonymous No.106522225 >>106522686 >>106527310
>>106522143
>When this shit was first kicking off /g/ was filled with anti-artist "should have learned to coooode", "get a real job"
This was a little blackpilling. Most of it was out of spite. I never understood it, even being an artist who has used AI.
>SEE? HEHEHAHAHAHAHA I CAN MAKE ART HUEUEHEHAHAHA
It was the weirdest thing ever.
Anonymous No.106522459
Whenever i see posts shilling AI Art i think of this guy
https://youtu.be/u_v9Gbw6kcU?feature=shared
Anonymous No.106522500
>>106520388
Take what you just said but swap rubbing pencils with banging on a keyboard. And making art with making programs. That's how stupid you sound. Sure you can get an output but much like ai code it's going to have lots of issues, and you can't tweak it exactly. I don't care how many rounds of nanobanana and stable diffusion you use. If you don't understand fundamentals you won't know good art vs shit art.
Anonymous No.106522552
>>106521316
Everything is allowed instead of AI because AI does 90% of the work including the creative decisions. There is almost no difference to the outside observer between AI artist image and image made using random prompt from ChatGPT put inside Midjourney. This is why AI images are not fully considered creation of the prompter, the same way book made using mostly ChatGPT isnโ€™t, or tracing a picture isnโ€™t.
s0ychan No.106522602 >>106522645 >>106522682
>>106518060 (OP)
AI cannot make art because it does not think, at least as far as we know.
AI does not have real life experiences to draw from.
What you are actually seeing is just a collection of pixels. There is nothing artistic about it. Some people (nihilists) are fine with that.
Anonymous No.106522635 >>106526680
>>106518060 (OP)
>paying an artist mere pocket change is le bad and we should fuel the beast with data and shekels instead so Jeets can hire more Jeets in Silicon Valley
Nah, I'll continue commission's talented artists in third world dumps like the Philippines and Indonesia to draw me cunny.
Get fucked Anti Christ worshiper, your tech bubble will bust AGAIN and you'll be left holding the bag while corpo CEO's will get government issued golden parachutes/bailouts AGAIN (tax payer funded of course).
Anonymous No.106522645 >>106522706 >>106527848
>>106522602
a paintbrush can't think, either
Anonymous No.106522665 >>106522683 >>106522687 >>106527817
>>106520352
AI is the future. Artists are the past. It is simple math. You are already behind.
Anonymous No.106522675 >>106522687 >>106527340
>>106521201
I remember when photoshop was less wide spread and people online were like
>no real graphic designer uses digital graphics
>using photoshop is cheating
>real artists use airbrushing and not just some toy
Anonymous No.106522682 >>106522834
>>106522602
>only artists obsessed with money can create art
Stop gatekeeping, retard.
Anonymous No.106522683
>>106522665
not him, but they aren't mutually exclusive
Anonymous No.106522686
>>106522225
>It was the weirdest thing ever.
you mean the brownest thing ever? it was jeets.
Anonymous No.106522687
>>106522665
>AI is the future.
Correct. Doesn't change the fact that no "gatekeeping" was ever done.

>>106522675
I remember experimenting digitally in the 2000's. It was very exciting.
s0ychan No.106522706 >>106522726 >>106522731
>>106522645
What is your point?
AI is not a paintbrush.
I cannot generate a full image by just tapping the paintbrush on the canvas.
It requires hours of work to create a painting using a paintbrush, all the time deliberately choosing the angle, pressure, hue, concentration, speed, layering, type of paintbrush, texture, and many more things you cannot comprehend.
AI can never make art unless (or until) it gains free will, independent thought, and real experience.
Right now it's about as artistic as taking a photo of a painting in a museum, putting a snapchat filter on it and calling it your own.
s0ychan No.106522726 >>106522788
>>106522706
>AI can never make art unless (or until) it gains free will, independent thought, and real experience.
And at that point of course, it wouldn't be your art anyway, it will be the AI's
Anonymous No.106522731 >>106522782
>>106522706
i don't disagree with anything you're saying.
ai doesn't make art, people use ai to make art
s0ychan No.106522782
>>106522731
>people use ai to make art
people use AI to steal art.
The person is not making the art and neither is the AI. It is a demonic creation at worst and stolen valor at best.
If you value art at all, do not save images, videos, or music where AI was used, and especially do not generate that shit.
Anonymous No.106522788 >>106522941
>>106522726
>artists get inspired by other artists
>this isn't considered theft however
I'm by no means a fan of the gAIy hype but if you make art it's your art. Anyway the glorified and over valued webcrawler chatbots powered by thousands of Nvidia GPU racks or Jeet slave labor in Myanmar is far from being sentient being regardless of what retarded Boomers and Zoomie investors think otherwise.
s0ychan No.106522834 >>106525420
>>106522682
>>only artists obsessed with money can create art
Never said that. Also you're a commie.
Anonymous No.106522873 >>106531015 >>106531328
>>106518060 (OP)
You need either a beefy PC or a paid account to generate images, and either way a lot of patience. Art is still inaccessible to the working man.
Anonymous No.106522895
>>106518060 (OP)
You're crass as hell that's the main issue
Hard to believe that there are still real people on xitter, habit is to be reckoned with
Anonymous No.106522897 >>106522930 >>106522996 >>106524773 >>106532502 >>106532582
Anonymous No.106522930
>>106522897
>implying
Anonymous No.106522941
>>106522788
>but if you make art it's your art.
NTA but by the very word of the law for AI art, it isnt. AI art and other gens are uncopyrightable, iirc the argument and decision was something akin to when that monkey took a selfie and the owner of the camera tried to claim ownership of the photo and failed.
Anonymous No.106522996
>>106522897
kek
Anonymous No.106523023 >>106523038 >>106523057 >>106523219
Why do Indians in particular and third worlders in general worship generative AI garbage so much?
Anonymous No.106523038
>>106523023
theyre like negative energy parasites they thrive on crushing another bug beneath them because thats their civilization
Anonymous No.106523057
>>106523023
Cargo cult. They worship anything that has even the slightest chance of either getting them out of the shithole they are in, or at least making it a bit funnier to rot there alive.
Anonymous No.106523147
>>106518060 (OP)
creative bros... i thought we were supposed to be irreplaceable???
Anonymous No.106523219 >>106527659
>>106523023
you realize ai is literally unironically more intelligent than 99.9999999% of pajeets? why wouldn't they worship it. when the retards on social spam about how ai is so intelligent and smarter than "humans" unknowningly are right. it's just in their demented low intelligence minds they think ofwhite or east asian men whereas in reality it's already better pantonoids and women. even with ai being wrong about so much and simply hallucinating it's better and more worthwhile to talk with than 99.9999999% of pajeets and 99.999% of women.
Anonymous No.106523358 >>106523420
>>106521031
>ai art
>"hmm what if i try this completely different concept? i'll just add it to my prompt!"
>normal art
>"saaar i already started, i can't just redraw the entire work to fit in your new design saar"
Anonymous No.106523420
>>106523358
>friend asks me if i can make him a logo for his company
>sure maybe
>describes what he wants
>generate some images, pick the best one and clean it up/vectorise it in inkscape
>he likes it
as shrimple as that
Anonymous No.106523544
>>106519231
Making artfags seethe: priceless.
Anonymous No.106523585 >>106525396
>>106518060 (OP)
Democratization of value creation. Everyone can create art, music, writing, that only costs few cents vs traditional means of hiring someone to do it for hundreds/thousands per work that takes weeks to create vs seconds/minutes with computer.
Anonymous No.106524773
>>106522897
i wish an AI could make these
Anonymous No.106525357
Thankfully as a philosophy major AI hasnt impacted my job prospects in the slightest.
Anonymous No.106525376 >>106525819 >>106528619
>>106518060 (OP)
Anonymous No.106525396 >>106526396 >>106529265
AI bros have a deep hatred for anyone who spends time honing their craft. They hate skilled people.

>>106523585
Yeah bro that slop you generated in 2 seconds is definitely "value".
Anonymous No.106525402
good morning saars just 2 more week until ai world pooperpower
Anonymous No.106525411
>"my art"

There is no such thing. You release it into the world and then society claims and does what it does with it. If you're successful, that is.
Anonymous No.106525414 >>106525871
>>106518060 (OP)
>NOOOOOO, AI art ia not real art!!!!
>You have to pay for my furry futa dragon vore fetish art because it is real art
>Stop cooming to fake art REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.106525420 >>106525455 >>106525871
>>106522834
You did say that. The only reason anyone ever does anything is for profit. The US Supreme Court recognized this. It is effectively the law of the land. If a human is involved there is a profit motive. End of story. Artists create art for profit. End of story. It is simple logic. AI unleashes gatekept creativity by allowing anyone to profit from art rather than letting the elites and artists keep their market closed.
Anonymous No.106525455
>>106525420
> The only reason anyone ever does anything is for profit
Anonymous No.106525819 >>106526383 >>106527770 >>106529116
>>106525376
Outside of /g/, it is not like this and I have no idea why. This board in particular seems very spiteful regarding the subject.
Anonymous No.106525871
>>106525414
>>You have to pay for my furry futa dragon vore fetish art because it is real art
who are you talking about in particular.
>Stop cooming to fake art REEEEE
we can pretend people actually give a shit that you jerk off to ai generated art.

>>106525420
meds.
Anonymous No.106525948 >>106526680
>paying mediocre Western artists hundreds of thousands of dollaridoos to draw stuff you want
Skill issue, Koreans will do a better job for pennies by comparison.
Anonymous No.106526383 >>106526816
>>106525819
This fucking website is nothing but combative contrarians. Doesn't matter what you say someone will show up and go "Uhm actually having to drink horse jizz is actually based and you're a retard for saying society would be better if we didn't have to service the cocks of our Mongol overlords. I've actually learn many stories about how in other lands they have no Mongol overlords and they're starving to death. Be happy you get free horse jizz straight from the tapp!"
Anonymous No.106526396
>>106525396
anon you can't even tell it's ai generated anymore. you couldn't refute its value even if you wanted to lmao
Anonymous No.106526680 >>106526723
>>106522635
>>106525948
^ These anons get it OP >>106518060 (OP)
Commissioning competent third worlders whom who can basically make a killing in their country not because they're actually asking for a lot but because USD paired against their own national currency more or less sets them up quite handsomely. It's a win win for everyone, you get loli's that don't look like shit and they can pay rent and go to the grocery store.

It's cheaper than subscribing to JeetGPT or hiring a Westoid troon artist. Why aren't more anons doing this?
Anonymous No.106526708
>>106520103
kek
Anonymous No.106526723
>>106526680
>Why aren't more anons doing this?
Because they fucking love whining 24/7. They've got no idea what the hell they're talking about, implying there is only "one" option. Everyone is supposedly charging $9,000,000 for a shitty fart porn stickman drawing.
Anonymous No.106526761 >>106527415
>Literally EVERY SINGLE ARTIST is charging 10 TRILLION DOLLARINOS
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE PEOPLE
FUCKING. SKILL. ISSUE.
Anonymous No.106526816
>>106526383
shut the fuck up faggot
Anonymous No.106526901 >>106527773
>>106519053
But nobody buys my furry art anymore
:(((((
Anonymous No.106527310
>>106522225
Most of /g/ are technophiles that probably donโ€™t have tech jobs. Also everyone is mean on 4chan.
Anonymous No.106527340
>>106522675
Yeah, but AI hits different. Photoshop gives you ctrl+z and color picker, but for the rest you actually need to be creative and graphically capable. AI just gives you what you write and only reason to learn proompting is to get exactly what you want.
Anonymous No.106527415
>>106526761
>FUCKING. SKILL. ISSUE.
OP shoulda maxed out his barter skills rather than putting it all in Sรณyence just so he can play with the terminals like some giant nerd honestly. No wonder he's fucking poor, lmao.
Sucks to suck
Anonymous No.106527659
>>106523219
even considering the West and Northeast asia are ~2.6b, out of 8b people, the vast majority of humans are retarded
Anonymous No.106527750
>>106519194
Same, the collective extreme gag reflex most people have for AI art is what convinced me to get into it
And since I started drawing, I can see why, with a pencil in hand, you can create anything you want.
With a model, you accept whatever the gen regurgitates.
Anonymous No.106527770 >>106532286
>>106525819
/g/ is the tech board full of people (mainly of Southeast Asian origin) who have no hobbies outside of coding, so for some reason this leads to them having a sense of superiority over people who enjoy creative hobbies like making art and music
Anonymous No.106527773
>>106526901
skill issue, all the popufur artists I know are raking in as much as ever
Anonymous No.106527787 >>106527855
>>106520145
>MAXIMUM BRAINROT
Anon, go find a hobby, please.
Anonymous No.106527817
>>106522665
Sure thing, Michelangelo.
Anonymous No.106527837 >>106527985
I'm an ex-slopper, and all the increasingly nervous diffusion addicts ITT are just desperate for engagement
Despite all the gloating of AI jeets in this thread, most of the art posted in this thread is hand-made
AI to this very moment cannot do any meaningful character interaction, cannot do multiple characters or anything remotely technically difficult, it still fucks up hands and feet, and ironically now it's harder to detect because sloppers cannot tell a good hand from a bad one due to slop overdosing.
They always gloat how they have replaced artists, but most studios have not let go of their artists for AI prompters.
Even Artstation which was adamant about defending AI gen, go look at it now, AI posting is essentially dead.
Most social media platform continue to be dominated by human made art, even though AI art is effortless and has already matured (its user base has plateaued in places like reddit, google search trends have stagnated)
Even 4chan is dominated by human art, even though it is the home turf of terminally online technophiles.
AI art could be as good as you claim, but none is biting
This inevitable great replacement of artists seems ever elusive.
Anonymous No.106527843 >>106527870
>>106518060 (OP)
>Robots replacing cleaners, miners, bus drivers... etc
Hahaha not my problem, should have studied like me!

>Robots replacing artist and programmers
Nooo this is worse than 9/11 and holocaust combined, stay the fuck away from art and code
Anonymous No.106527848
>>106522645
neither can a nigger
Anonymous No.106527855
>>106527787
This is what I imagine that anon's thought process goes like:
>People who are good at drawing were born with artistic talent that they hardly even had to work for, if at all
>I wasn't born with talent, so that means I'm being gatekept from making good art
>People will never accept or be interested in what I make because I have no talent. It's so unfair
>I have such great ideas. Everyone would love and appreciate my ideas if I wasn't being gatekept
These people never actually have any good ideas to begin with.
Anonymous No.106527870 >>106527891
>>106527843
People don't clean, mine, or drive busses because it's their joy and passion. It is only a job, and nothing more. Same with programming. I'm a programmer, and I don't feel as though there's anything inherently wrong with AI-generated code.

AI generated art, on the other hand? It just feels like a complete waste of time to me, because part of what makes art interesting to me to begin with, is the fact that other human cared enough to take the time to represent that idea in the way that they did, instead of just effortlessly prompting it. I care about the effort that went into art because I look at art to feel impressed, and other emotions like that. Algorithmically generated slop is boring in comparison.
Anonymous No.106527879
>>106520388
Damn, you AI fags would literally do anything else other than actually creating art and developing your skills. Creating art is equally enjoyable as practicing and working to perfect it. But you would know that if you actually loved what you do. You just want a machine to churn out your "creativity". Sorry, but art doesn't work that way, and it never will.
Anonymous No.106527891
>>106527870
I agree 100%
I will not waste a second of my time over what a random pixel generator cooked up, however, many times I find myself zooming over a piece of art, or comics, taking in the details, and more often than not you find funny fuck ups or even easter eggs in there
One of my favorite memories is me and my friends looking for Rembrandt hiding himself in his paintings
I have never looked at an AI slop image that did anything to me, and even when one piques my interest, the moment I notice it's AI, I lose all interest.
Anonymous No.106527973 >>106531587
Artists, behold, your replacement
Anonymous No.106527984 >>106528002
>>106518060 (OP)
>i used to pay artists hundreds of dollars for artwork
Really, like what? Paintings? Sculpture? Photographs? Lithographs? Mixed-media?

Tell us about say just three pieces of art you own and how much you paid for each, just roughly. You must be quite a collector, OP.

And why don't you post say, three of your favorite AI pieces, why are they your favorites? What are the technical or emotional or art-theoretic ideas they explore and how do you feel when viewing this art? Come on just three.

I'm really excited to hear back from OP, I always wonder what kind of art 4channers collect. It's fascinating!
Anonymous No.106527985 >>106528045
>>106527837
>I'm an ex-slopper
Same here, though I was already familiar with art for years. I used to post in the /de3/ general very early on. The amount of defeatism in those threads was insane.
Anonymous No.106528002
>>106527984
This question is for anybody who previously purchased or commissioned art, what are your three favorite pieces and why? And how much did you pay? And then, if you feel AI is now good enough to replace human artists, what's your favorite AI art? Can you describe why it's your favorite?

Anybody and everybody, please feel free to answer this question. I don't think anybody HERE actually can. Not adequately. But I'm open to hearing people try.
Anonymous No.106528043 >>106528407
And when one says AI has now replaced human art, does this include music? How about film and TV? Poetry? Bas-reliefs?

I can believe AI 'art' is making inroads in the corporate world. For sure. And I can believe that artists who work with corporate clients or who themselves are on staff, are seeing less work and the possibility of job cuts, less pay, etc. as they become redundant in the field of soulless, corporate 'art.'

OTOH I can't really think of a field outside the corporate one where AI art is making inroads or encroaching. Certainly not fine art, likely not music excepting pop where it's likely been used covertly for a couple years now. Probably 3D animated bears you see on soda commercials smiling and drinking a can of soda could be AI generated quicker and cheaper than having some 3D animator model and animate them. But I doubt you can 3D animate a natural behaving bear battling some other bear with AI, no way. You still need humans to do that.

I'm open to AI infiltrating the fine art world, that'd be very funny indeed. Fine art world is so far up its ass that its ripe for it. Much like how the Sokol Affair needed to happen and showed everybody how fake and gay high and academic culture is.
Anonymous No.106528045 >>106528120
>>106527985
I'm no artist, sorry, just was interested in a novelty toy at the time, no idea what /de3/ even is, but I do follow tons of artists in twitter and pixiv, the latter not so much now since the slop avalanche.
I just feel like the AI side of the pond is more interested in getting a reaction from artists than actually making interesting.
I cannot actually think of a single AI-driven artistic project that actually matured and garnered respect.
In the end, and believe me, as an ex-slopper this will hurt me as much as the AI jeets ITT, we, like the talentless hacks on twitter they like to harp on about, want quick recognition and easy money, but I realized early this is a fool's errand.
Scarcity is the source of art's value, destroy scarcity and you have nothing.
Anonymous No.106528120
>>106528045
>I'm no artist, sorry, just was interested in a novelty toy at the time
It's fine.
>no idea what /de3/ even is
It was a shitty general dedicated to a quite versatile (at the time) image generator.
>the latter not so much now since the slop avalanche.
It's quite bad over there, indeed.
>I just feel like the AI side of the pond is more interested in getting a reaction from artists than actually making interesting.
Good to see more people finally starting to nooootice how little heart there really is going around in the space.
Anonymous No.106528220
What is 'good' AI art though? Like how do you benchmark how good it is? And can AI art have meaning?
Anonymous No.106528407
>>106528043
>I doubt you can 3D animate a natural behaving bear battling some other bear with AI
Depends entirely on what you mean by that. I'm fairly sure the tools to create actual 3D assets and then use machine learning to control the final character while using carrots and sticks to get to to something approximating the behavior of a bear is entirely within the realms of possibility. Its mostly a case of "yeah but why would you?" since its not like it'd be cheap to do since you'd be the first to actually put to gether all these components and also train the bear animation AI.
If a company like Rockstar wanted better bear AI in RDR 4 I'm sure they could create an internal workflow system to for AI powered generation of unique bears models with slight modifications to their behavior to create distinct personalities capable of fighting each other just like real bears would.
But why?
It'd be multi-million dollar project for a team of people to spend a year or two on. Just on the off chance that the player runs into a bear and it does anything other than just walk around sniffing at stuff and the player have seen enough bears to know that it looks like Bear #5 from the database? Better to spend the money on improving variation and behavior in human NPCs.
Anonymous No.106528555
I think one of the big issues with AI art is that peoplr that gen it dont know when its enough, flooding every site with it made most people just react negatively, like a fad of the month but on steroids, remember when everybody was doing Ghibli versions of everything? What happened to that?
Anonymous No.106528584
>>106518060 (OP)
>"my art"
>it's literally just a rip off of gandalf walking to the shire
Anonymous No.106528619
>>106525376
other way around. artists have ai living in their head rent free, finding any reason to shit on it
Anonymous No.106528803
>>106518060 (OP)
>Get the fuck away from my art and do something of your own.
This "AI is killing art" screeching is so fake and gay because professional artists who make art in the real world have nothing to fear in AI. AI is not a threat to your work unless you're one of those faggots who draw pictures on your iPad then sell the jpg for $20 and pretend that's on the same level as an oil painting.
An image generating bot cannot replicate 1:1 a sculpture, or a painting, things which are tangible and unique because they're actual fucking things an actual artist made, not pixels on a screen.
Anonymous No.106529075
AI should be able to read my mind. I should be able to think up an application design and it should be able to make it. Same with images, it should just be able to make an image that I'm picturing in my head.
Anonymous No.106529116
>>106525819
AI haters need an outlet to vent their frustration. No sense to preach to choir in the art board so they deliberately jump into the line of fire as trolls.
Anonymous No.106529265 >>106529299
>>106525396
Nah, AI "bros" have deep love/appreciation for it, thats why they are creating AIs that create art. You are just seething
Anonymous No.106529291 >>106532538
>>106520145
Only thing I've seen an explosion in is cuck porn desu turns out midwits with the shittiest fetishes had the least skill the entire time
Anonymous No.106529299
>>106529265
If they had a love for it then they would learn to do it themselves you dumb fuck.
Anonymous No.106529576
If I want art, Iโ€™ll just use AI. The truth is most people donโ€™t actually feel anything from โ€œmodern artโ€ anymore โ€” the market is so oversaturated that genuine emotional attachment is rare.

Art only matters when it resonates with you personally. Out of everything Iโ€™ve ever seen, Iโ€™d only pay for two artists: one because his story hit me, and another because his style was the first time I understood what โ€œartโ€ meant.

Everything else just blends together into noise. Without that emotional spark, itโ€™s just another pretty picture in an endless sea of pretty pictures. And thatโ€™s why most people donโ€™t care, and definitely wonโ€™t pay.
Anonymous No.106531015
>>106522873
>You need either a beefy PC or a paid account to generate images,
no lmao
Anonymous No.106531328
>>106522873
you really don't, i bought an rx6600 second hand for very little which can generate images fairly quickly. the barrier for entry is not 0, but it's very low
Anonymous No.106531587
>>106527973
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Kek
Anonymous No.106532286
>>106527770
Wrong, half of /g/ are technophile normie consumers and the other half are programmers who keep to themselves. Techbro niggers being put in the same places as programmers is what ruins the image of programmers.
Anonymous No.106532335
>>106520388
>Creativity is in the head, not in the material world.
Ergo, AI is creative
Anonymous No.106532502
>>106522897
Me at the bottom part of the pic
Anonymous No.106532538
>>106529291
This, whenever i check a gallery in pixiv that only post AI, 80% of all gens is blacked porn, its almost absurd
Anonymous No.106532582 >>106532618 >>106538727
>>106522897
That was year ago. The opinion of average programmer on AI has shifted a lot since Claude became number one coding LLM.
Anonymous No.106532618 >>106532641
>>106532582
Most programmers are cucks who want to be seen as "modern", "unafraid of change" even If the end goal of ai is replace them. Fucking retards.
Anonymous No.106532641 >>106532667 >>106532774 >>106532998 >>106539821 >>106541341
>>106532618
The end goal of AI is for us to get UBI after AI can do our jobs and spend the rest of our lives doing what we please to do dumbass fucking luddite coping artist
Anyone with braincells is pro that
Anonymous No.106532667
>>106532641
Bait or indian?
Anonymous No.106532774
>>106532641
And the noble knight in shining armor will arrive on his steed and proclaim UBI for all individuals! The wealthy elite will then gladly redistribute their wealth so that all humans can now do as they please! If not, the knight will force them to. We just have to wait. Then we will live happily ever after in a new AI utopia.
Anonymous No.106532785
>>106518060 (OP)
>do you feel bad for artists?
Not at all
Anonymous No.106532998
>>106532641
The end goal is that you starve to death or get executed by death squads.
Anonymous No.106533297
>>106520388
>>106520542
very well said
Anonymous No.106533537 >>106533892 >>106539843
>>106518060 (OP)
I feel more bad for myself being forced to experience AIslop everywhere
Anonymous No.106533892
>>106533537
you poor thing!
Anonymous No.106534042
>>106521692
I am a big user of AI but I wouldn't use any work of a living artist as a base for a derivative (I know their art is on the models training, but that's a different issue). I also think that there are a lot of crappy artists today whose art I wouldn't use even if it was free to use for anything.
Anonymous No.106536739
>>106520388
The head is the material world you fucking schizo
Anonymous No.106538199
>>106519013
>258000 x 258000
good lord
Anonymous No.106538408
>>106519013
that's a big picture
Anonymous No.106538727 >>106541247
>>106532582
I'm a programmer and I use Gemini and Claude heavily at work.
I'm less worried about being replaced after how underwhelming GPT-4o => GPT-5 was
Anonymous No.106539821
>>106532641
You are retarded.
The visceral response artists display is the right idea, except they are losers screaming at a digital screen.
The end goal is the destruction of the middle class and the creation of a clear cut two-tier society: Ultra rich and ultra poor.
Anonymous No.106539843
>>106533537
Same, I go to extreme lengths to filter slop and outright abandon sites that tolerate it.
Anonymous No.106540419
Lmao my missus wanted some basic art for decorating the kids room but thought the 200 price tag was a bit much for what was an image of basic shapes making a kangaroo and a koala. Instead of buying it from the artist she took the thumbnail and used AI to scale it up and make it look good, and had it printed for 20 bucks.
Anonymous No.106540722
>>106521642
Don't care. I'm going to get everything I want for free, do any minor edits myself, and that's it. Not going to pay you to add up numbers on paper for me when I could just use a calculator.
Anonymous No.106541247
>>106538727
It was a performance update. GPT5 is like bunch of times cheaper then 4o while being 5% better at almost everything. The reason the launch failed was because they thought the last time not use used their product was when GPT4 got released. And also because OpenAI chose for once the moral choice and screwed over schizos who got attached to their chat itโ€™s that validated literally everything.
Anonymous No.106541341
>>106532641
UBI is literally impossible unless you do full on communism (good luck with that). Where will you get that money from? Print it? Good luck with inflation. Tax it? Good luck with taxing corporations that now hold all the power.

The entire human history since invention of agriculture was a trade between rich and poor. Rich give away their resources which they own to the poor and the poor trade their work to make raw resources rich own into refined usable resources that rich now own. From aristocracy and peasants to free citizen and slaves to business owners and workers. This system always existed and even Marxism that tried to get rid of it still fell back into it with state bureaucrats and socialist citizen working for the state. You canโ€™t get rid of this system, and when you introduce AI and full automation into the equation it just results in elites culling off the useless masses. This is guaranteed to happen and every small advancement in AI puts us one step closer to that future.
Anonymous No.106542878 >>106544272
>>106520926
You do realize hybrid AI workflows exist, you can draw AND use AI.
Anonymous No.106544272
>>106542878
Nooo, stop, stop making sense, you're not allowed to use AI as a tool!