Thread 106519156

FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

>W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
Same as W10 version except:
UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet/Scoop or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W10/W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>106435981

First for I love Windows!

>>106519156 (OP)
pedotroon thread

>>106519324
that's not a search box, you were probably searching for

>>>/g/fglt

Fourth for Sophie!

>>106519156 (OP)
Is this girl a windows chan or something

>>106519405
It's a random character from a 4koma manga. A 500 year old little girl vampire who's into otaku shit.

>>106519430
she has a show too!

How do I inject my 'acestep --port 7888' command into my batch? The first line activates but I can't get any combination of commands to continue.

>>106519926
Don't you need to use CALL for this?

>>106519963
yea, okay. I put call in the wrong line I guess. Thank you.

>>106520109
Looking around it seems you can also use conda's "run" command as well
conda run -n ace_step acestep --port 7888
Something like this.

i liked these threads better with the cat OPs

From the last thread:
>>106511172

I'm looking for recommendations for drive cloning utilities that are reliable & free for Win10. I'm trying to get about 8 systems prepared & stable for family members and need options for several different approaches to cater to specific needs of each. So yeah, I've got a bunch of experimentation to go through and I can't lose some specific configurations. Help, suggestions, and pointers to resources (not in the /fwt/ OP) very much appreciated. I'm not stupid, but I've been (personally) on Win7 up until now and have a bit of a learning curve to climb through.

>>106520142
Me too.

>>106520155
From the OP
>https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

the windows photos app doesnt seem that bad now
it actually seems a lot faster than it used to be and seems that can also play videos

>>106520301
Alright. Thanks. I didn't like Macrium a few years back, so I was hoping for something else to check out. Guess I'll give it a try again. Gonna take a look at whatever Partition Wizard is these days, too, when I get a couple hours free to play around. Never tried Reflect, and had a couple bad experiences with Clonezilla.

Partly I was fishing for people who've used these and can recommend or not. Or something not on the list to look at.

>>106520423
thanks satya but i'll be sticking with imageglass

>>106518540
>>106517683
The only way I found to remove this message was to accept defeat and reinstall ms store and the game bar app

>>106520577
I got it to work, see
>>106518769
>>106518785

Is there an easy way to install the Xbox app and dependencies on w11 iot ltsc?
I have a game pass sub and I want to use it

>>106520734
https://sysconf16.github.io/information/technology/lists/installing-the-microsoft-store-xbox-app-on-ltsc.html
Personally I'd install winget with the winget-install script by asheroto then install the Xbox UWP that way. Remember to select "only in ms apps" when you log into the MS account with the game pass on it so you don't have the system try to automatically sign you into a non-local account.

Is there any screenshot tool better than Lightshot? The default Windows snipping tool is ass (takes like half a second to actually take a screenshot).

And while on the topic of slow ass behaviour, why is scrolling in the path bar so fucking slow and is there anything I can do to make it faster or do I have to cope with Microsoft being run by Indians now?

>>106520962
The most well-known tools of the screenshotting trade outside Snipping Tool are ShareX, Flameshot and Greenshot.

>>106520991
Thanks, I'll take a look.

>>106519308
>create overheads
>35mm slides
somehow i've never considered powerpoint as a publishing tool for making presentations in a format besides just viewing them from powerpoint itself, and i'm 35

I'm afraid of bios updates bros

>>106521036
You shouldn't be scared. BIOS updates are pretty easy to install these days what with how the BIOS themselves have easy installers within.
Just make sure you have solid power at all times while the update is happening.

>regular account isn't admin
>can't run diskmgmt.msc
>have to start it through elevated pwsh or something it just can't handle starting from a different user that doesn't have the permissions
>doesn't even show up when searching in start menu

>>106521138
Why aren't you using an admin local account?

>>106521138
If you're launching from the Run dialog, make sure you invoke Ctrl+Shift+Enter instead of just Enter, this way you'll explicitly launch the program with elevated permissions - the UAC consent dialog will kick in, requiring you to authenticate via an administrator-level account
Similarly when you type in the GUI shell search - right click on the entry and press "Run as administrator" from the context menu
>and it should show up if you *also* specify the .msc extension

Is there any use case for actually installing AMD's Adrenaline Suite? I don't really care to look at any overlay benchmark shit, and I feel like the default settings are most tested by game developers and the most intended way of using the GPU by the AMD niggs. I feel like it's just bloat, I already got rid of Logitech Hub and just replaced it for OpenRGB that never runs in the background since I just switch to 800 dpi manually with the button and only care about LED's being off. I fucking hate how every single piece of hardware has a dedicated app.

>>106521443
Pretty much any kind of GUI suite for driver related stuff is pure bloat. IMO you should just use RadeonSoftwareSlimmer on a driver installer from the AMD website and pick out all the bloat like the telemetry and such.

>>106521036
despite what other anons say, you should be. I had a work desktop (Dell) become unusable by one.

>>106521443
I have a Dell S2721DGF monitor. It's a wide gamut monitor that has no sRGB mode. The AMD software actually helps me fix it.

>>106521036
I've been updating my GIGABYTE motherboard with every single UEFI security update as soon as it releases and never had any issues. Nowadays I think it's a pretty mature way of updating with the UEFI rolling back if it notices any issues. The only problem would be a power cut I imagine, which does make me a bit anxious but it is what it is.

>>106521477
does that look better to you?
if i use those settings it looks too saturated on my laptop

>>106521830
I have other monitors I can cross-reference with and yes it makes the colours accurate instead of oversaturated as they would otherwise be.

>if i use those settings it looks too saturated on my laptop
Odd, it's supposed to be toned down in saturation, not the other way around. Is Color Temperature Control DISABLED? Is your screen wide gamut? It's also useful to do this test.
https://www.wide-gamut.com/test

Should I install windows terminal? It seems to be a bit bloated

>>106522059
It's basically a UWP console that lets you run tabbed instances of Powershell or Command Prompt (plus some others)
Personally I just use base cmd or PS cause they're lighter.

>>106522059
Eh, for a terminal emulator it should work, i guess
Though I prefer ConEmu instead, the cmder suite bundles it with their own personalizations (though I've heard they're planning to change the terminal base for future releases, reckon they were considering windows terminal among other consoles)

>>106522243
cmder seems to just take ConEmu and make it look more modern/clean (and include a git for Windows install as well)

>>106523600
Yeah, hence this excerpt
>the cmder suite bundles it with their own personalizations
They also bundle Clink integration for CMD, which is also nice, along with their in-house script helpers, providing support for e.g. persistent alias support
>which in CMD context uses doskey macrofiles, afair

Windows 11 iot LTSC just killed one of my NVME, after downgrading from newest update the sistem is just acting weird... so, is it safe to go back to Windows 10 and wich kind of 10 should i main?

>>106524282
>Windows 11 iot LTSC just killed one of my NVME
How

>>106524433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU_WepeHUd8&t=33s

>>106524282
>he lied on the internet!
>in the year 2025!
Do you have any forensic evidence to support your claim? Of course you don't, Rajesh!

>>106524581
>ThioJoe
Into the trash!

>>106524634
meds

Hot take: we're finally seeing the TRUE failure rate of SSDs.
Just as a freetard will never admit his Linux install shit itself and he had to "distrohop" for fear of being piled on by his leet "friends" for being a retard, Scamshills now have an out in blaming Windows for the immense failure rates that SSDs have always had (and always will) - now they don't have to admit their SSDs shit themselves, and being piled on by other SSD shills ("hurrdurr u bought chinkshit", "hurrdurr u didnt put a heatsink on it", "hurrdurr u defragged it", "hurrdurr ur psu blew it up", "hurrdurr ur holding it wrong", "hurrdurr", "hurrdurr", etc. etc. etc.)

>>106524634
welp, my main NVME died after that update, it's now sitting in my desk as a 200 usd fidget toy.
The drive went from having writing issues to connection issues to fully brick, i guess is my fault for buying Corsair stuff.

>>106524729
>it isn’t Windows that’s causing the problem but rather preliminary firmware versions on certain SSDs. These unfinished firmware versions, which were never intended for end users, appear to have been triggered by the KB5063878 update and thus began causing the problems described by users.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2901830/finally-the-real-reason-why-ssds-are-disappearing-in-windows-11.html

It still works on my machine!

>>106524811
>triggered by the KB5063878 update
So it's Windows

do i need w11 for a 9800x3d build? i had to decrapify a win11 laptop for a family member and it left a bad impression. i'll be dualbooting with linux, windows is only for games and music production. i've used w10 for so long that it's become sort of comfy and i even made my kubuntu install look like it.

>>106524811
>drive works just fine for 5 years straight
>it dies after a windows update
i wonder what caused the NVME malfunction

>>106524905
Just use Win10 then.

>>106519351
30 years using windows and never got this "activate windows" message on the screen, and today it simply appeared, what does it mean?

>>106524934
Didn't mean to quote!

>>106524729
Doing a full power cycle seems to bring these ssds back online, did you do that?

>>106524934
did you make any changes to your hardware? or did you reinstall Windows?

I installed nvim and fvim via scoop, and I can't see shit when I open fvim. What can i do to fix this?

>>106525081
I haven't do anything, just turned on the PC, here it says "error: 0xC004F074".

>>106524947
too late! you have my attention now! did you watch her show, anon? didja? go watch her show! immediately!

>>106525248
You're such a silly boy! :3

>>106525278
come back when you ready to display your undying (heh) love for Sophie!

>>106525223
According to MS docs, it could mean that the KMS just failed, the time of your PC is off, or the some network settings are preventing the KMS to be reached

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/licensing-and-activation/error-0xc004f074-activate-windows

Maybe restarting it or re-entering your key might fix it? To be fair, Windows activation systems are kinda shitty these days

>>106525447
I already solved it but thanks, I used a youtube video because for some reason google fucking sucks these days.

I'm finally biting the bullet and doing a clean install of LTSC
I've been putting it off because I know it's gonna be a pain in the ass getting everything back to the way I like

>>106525447
What he actually did was do a one-shot KMS activation, because the instructions specifically state that permanently activating by KMS has to install the KMS_VL_ALL fake server, and this frightens the Dunning-Krugers. Suffice it to say, one-shot KMS activation is only good for six months, and then you become unactivated again.

This was a VERY common problem on this board until HWIDGen A) became common, and B) started working on the LTS versions, because people are stupid.

>>106524729
>Corsair
My Corsair SSD still works. Sounds like you got a model with one of the affected Phison controllers.

I need a drawing software, I don't want to pay $400 for Clip Studio and GIMP is GIMP. Is Krita a decent alternative?

>>106525777
i mean it wont hurt to try

>>106525777
pay? what's that

>>106525839
With real money. You know, the thing you get after working.
Pirating it is extremely risky since a lot of the sites have been infected with malicious files. Even the safe downloads from r*ddit are infected.

>>106525887
Right... You seem like a real expert.

>>106525777
Krita and GIMP don't have much overlap in their userbases, as far as I know. Both are excellent. Krita's workflow is a little closer to Photoshop.
Also, fuck you, GIMP rocks.
Medibang Paint is another good one, but it has ads unless you buy the Pro version.. It is my go-to on Android, along with Snapseed. I really like Medibang Paint's warp tool, it is pretty great, but GIMP's is something else... to the point that I need more practice with it, lel, as I'm too used to Medibang Paint's. I haven't figured out how to accomplish warping like how Medibang and GIMP do it as far as Krita. That's one of the tools I use the most, so I tend not to use Krita often, and when I do, it is mostly for redrawing or modifications that don't require warping, other wise I'd use one of the other apps.. I'm more about modifying stuff, so I lean towards other apps rather than Krita, but any of these three are , for me at least, adequate for drawing and redrawing stuff. GIMP and Krita both work well with my vintage Wacom tablet when I want to draw more, but any drawing I do tends to be related to modifying stuff rather than drawing from scratch like most folks that draw do..

>>106525976
I use GIMP but not for drawing. It's not meant fro drawing. It's literally the first sentence in this documentation. I use it for editing photos, not actual drawing.
https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-using-rectangular.html

I hate ads so no thanks. I might just try Krita or find a crack for PaintTool Sai.

>>106525023
i know, i have even switched between M2 ports and the thing is 100% dead.

>>106526037
I think that's just GIMP's devs trying to cover their own asses.
GIMP is adaptable to pen pressure and stroke hardness, size, rate, etc. as Krita and other drawing software. It has rulers and guides and other stuff that are very helpful for drawing. GIMP's devs probably got told off at some point or something. I don't see how GIMP is supposed to be bad, or there are tools it is missing towards that that I'm not aware of and the devs are just covering their asses to avoid too much negative feedback?

There is minor advantage that Krita has over GIMP in this, in my opinion: second-click opens up the brush menu and most of its options while second-click in GIMP just opens up a general menu with more options, but not geared towards brush settings. I think that is a poor design choice on the part of GIMP's devs, but not any kind of deal-breaker for me, I consider it pretty minor.

I'm about to bite the bullet and let my win 10 "upgrade" to win 11. It's just another chore I can get rid of from my to-do list. Anything I should know or prepare beforehand?

Also my laptop has 8 GB ram and an AMD ryzen 3 3200U cpu. Will upgrading my ram to 16 GB really make my computer much faster, or am I bottlenecked by my CPU so much that it's not even worth the effort of a ram upgrade?

yooooooo vector layers in gimp! iv been waiting for this!

>>106526269
Huh? You'll be fine. Even the most overloaded, overbloated W11 install won't use 3GB on startup. All those Task Manager screenshots where you see 4-8GB startup RAM? They've shoved a Hyper-V VM in the background.
3200U is also plenty, well within requirements. Remember, it's the (lack of) processor features that is the issue - no matter how much you overclock a 2500K, it's not going to make up for the lack of SLAT, MBEC/GMET, hardware sidechannel leak mitigations, etc.

>>106526269
If your machine can accomodate Win11's Core Isolation security feature, that will cause Win11 alone to require 8GB RAM just for itself (though with some flexibility there for your convenience, however much that ends up being), best to to go 16GB. It's not an absolutely necessary feature, though, so you will be fine with just 8GB and Core Isolation disabled.

>>106526325
>mbec/gmet
>(used by core isolation)
>which uses literally a SINGLE BIT per memory page
>(which is 4kb - so an 8gb machine has about 2097152 pages)
>um... 2 million divided by 8 is
>*randomly scrawls symbols in crayon*
>not 256kb don't be silly
>its really 8 gigabytes honest
Don't ever change, /g/.

>>106525676
good luck anon!

>>106527020
To be fair, the people who know how Windows actually works are long gone from this thread, and quite possibly this board, so it's all braindead asspulling to cope with their 2500KYS not running 11 properly.

>>106527592
literally me

>>106527592
No one is still on Sandy Bridge e-waste except for the occasional schizo, right? Right?

>>106527815
Gentlemen, I regret to inform, but
>desuarchive.org/g/search/text/you%20don't%20need%20more
Poorfags.

I'm having a (not so) small issue with my Windows installation. Whenever I boot up my PC, I get a KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED BSOD after which the computer reboots on its own and gets back into the system. The cycle repeats on the next reboot. Going into the BIOS after the BSOD triggers it again once I come out.

I'm pretty sure this happened after I uninstalled Docker Desktop and Hyper-V. I tried re-enabling Hyper-V just in case, to no avail. I've also noticed that occasionally I will have an issue where I get a completely black screen from the BIOS all the way to the login screen and to fix this I need to remove a RAM stick and reinsert it. I don't think it's a RAM issue, however, as I can load into Hiren's BootCD just fine.

I have tried DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth and sfc /scannow, as well as updating my OS but the issue persisted. Has anyone else here had any similar experiences and might be able to help, or is my only option reinstalling Windows?

>>106527888
I still lean toward it being a RAM issue, if wiggling the RAM fixes it. Otherwise, the motherboard itself could be faulty - this has "genuine hardware failure" written all over it.

>>106527909
I mean, wiggling the RAM only fixes the occasional black screen issue and that's probably because the BIOS detects the change in configuration and prompts me to either reset everything, or enter the BIOS setup. The BSOD doesn't budge and follows the exact same pattern every single time, even if removing a RAM stick entirely (either one). What sucks is that I can't get a good idea of what drivers are launching on startup either, since boot logging only works when the OS boots successfully for some reason...

It can't only be RAM, even if that's a factor, it's way too consistent with its pattern, unless I'm missing something as to how Windows works at a core level.

>>106527940
You just said you're getting blank screens from moment of startup to logon. That's obviously hardware, man - your system isn't even starting your GPU all the time.

>>106528187
Not in a literal sense, I just used anon's wording. Removing the RAM and reinserting it.

>>106528237
my ram wiggles though

>>106528307
DON'T STOP MOVIN BABY
OH THAT BOOTY'S DRIVE ME CRAZY
WIGGLE WIGGLE
W-WIGGLE WIGGLE

>>106527888
Honestly sounds like a hardware issue. I would do this:
Boot to bios and restore default settings. I don't know if you fucked with RAM OC or not but just do it.
Make a boot device with MemTest86 on it and test. If it's bad then replace the RAM.
If you didn't get a problem boot in to Windows safe mode. Download TestMem5, run the test anta777 extreme. That will push your RAM to the extreme. If it's all good then it's not a RAM issue.

Then look into it being a CPU issue. Is it an Intel CPU? Those had problems for shorting out. I forgot how people tested if they got a bad Intel CPU but you could probably google it. If it's AMD then look at the next component. Your motherboard.

I would say at this point I would do a fresh install of Windows than replace my motherboard. If a fresh install fixes it then it was probably a shitty Windows install (I doubt it since you did all that to check). My bet is a hardware issue.

Good luck.

>>106527815
Why is it ewaste if it still work completely fine?

>>106529886
The same reason your grandma's asshole is ewaste, even though she's still alive.
It's had its day, and it's time to stop sending Jamal over to sodomize her while you video it and upload it to your GrannyLover329843298742 account on xhamster.

>>106529886
something is "ewaste" when the owner doesn't want it and it's not worth the time to sell it.
i have a haslel machine i use as a jellyfin server among other things, which is a bit newer than sandy vagina, and it works just fine. but they can be bought for peanuts because they're at that age where they're worth as little as they ever will be (old enough to be worth nothing performance-wise, but also new enough to be worth nothing retro/nostalgia-wise)

anyone have a duplicate finder that works? ccleaner doesn't work for very small files

>>106530670
Try Bleachbit instead of CCleaner.

I'm performing some experiments on a Win10 system I need to maintain. For Reasons, it's an important system & install config that I need to preserve, so I'm desecrating some clones to arrive at a satisfactory & stable system.

Per picrel, it has a system recovery partition (from the factory, Hewlett Packard). But, it's probably for Win7 pro (what this PC was before I upgraded it to Win10 pro). I have no idea if Win10 needs that partition or any data that may have been written to it, but I would like to delete that partition, safely. I have no need/intention of reverting to Win7, but I'm concerned about fucking my registry over.

1)
How would I go about doing that safely?

2)
Would Win10 require a recovery partition at all? Would I need to create a new one, or can I safely operate without one? The data recovery is trivial, but having an extra primary partition available would be useful. Will Win10 automatically adjust & fix the registry to live without it, or would I have to sacrifice some chickens or something to perform system voodoo to stabilize it?

I have more experiments & fixes to apply going forward, but I want to be building on a fairly stripped & stable base. Not sure if I want to convert MBR to GPT. Would there be benefits to that? It's an older i5 4600-something CPU & 8 GB 1600 DDR3 RAm, not intended for heavy lifting/games, etc., but it is a critical test bed I need so I can learn enough to work on & maintain other systems.

>>106530670
https://github.com/qarmin/czkawka

>>106530718
Bah. To be clear, it's the 10GB HP_RECOVERY partition I'd like to nuke, not the disk 0 partition 3 recovery.

Also, if it means anything, it's an i5 4590 cpu. Between that & the motherboard, it fails for a Win11 upgrade. Not that I want one, anyway. Once I fix a few things & get it as stable as is reasonable, I do intend to massgrav it into an ENT version or something so I can play with it for the next few years.

Thanks for any idle thoughts or advice.

>>106530718
contradictory post
if it's that important, leave the fucking system alone
if it's unimportant enough to fuck with, then just nuke everything and reinstall from scratch

>>106530718
find other disk same size
dd drives
test delete the not important one
when it doesnt work give up

>>106530718
Win10 doesn't need either recovery partition. HP_RECOVERY is actually an "OEM" partition, booted in an interesting way: your HP machine's BIOS has a special keypress/combo (likely one of the function keys) that instructs the BIOS to specifically boot THAT partition, which contains a VERY custom Windows Setup equivalent made by HP themselves. Acers of the era had a very similar system.

>but I'm concerned about fucking my registry over
You won't fuck your registry over. Your registry lives on Partition 2 (OS, C:) once Windows has been installed.

>How would I go about doing that safely?
It could be as simple as right-clicking that partition and clicking Delete from the pop-up menu. But it almost certainly has the special "OEM" partition ID - in which case, you'll have to fire up the command-line version of Disk Management (called DISKPART), and issue these commands at its special CLI:
>SELECT DISK 0
>SELECT PARTITION 4
>DELETE PARTITION OVERRIDE
>EXIT
You're done. Of course, your HP BIOS will now chuck a hissy fit if you use its special "Recovery" keypress/combo at boot.

>Would Win10 require a recovery partition at all?
Strictly speaking, no. You CAN do away with it entirely, or even put Windows Recovery onto your C: drive if you really want. The reason Microsoft puts it in a separate partition is so it can still start up and try to perform recovery steps, even if your entire C: drive has been trashed into unrecognisability.

Just to reiterate, Partition 3 (the 474MB one) and Partition 4 (HP_RECOVERY) are two, entirely separate, "recovery" partitions: the former is Windows Recovery Environment (the one with Startup Repair, Memory Test, Command Prompt etc. options, and the other is your HP "OEM" Recovery, which will reinstall Windows 7.

So, to finally answer your question: no, you don't NEED WinRE... but you WANT WinRE (even plonked on C:).

To be completely honest, I'd probably play it safe and back up HP_RECOVERY before blasting it - it's only 10GB.

>>106530816
>reinstall from scratch
Not an option for this system. I plan to do that to some others.

I have the luxury of resurrecting this system from an original drive, so I don't mind breaking a clone or three along the way to making a new base system to resurrect from. Like I said in the original post, I have Reasons for what I'm doing, but it would take several long, boring posts to explain them all.

I need to learn on this system because I have a couple others I won't be able to install from scratch, I'll have to update & maintain them, but I don't know if I can convert them to ENT or be stuck with whatever state they're in when the Octoberpocalypse gets here.

And, please don't bully. I've had a fuckton of shit dumped on me I'm trying to deal with. This Win10 deadline wasn't part of my life until a week ago and now I have to solve a bunch of problems that were not part of my agenda. I'm caring for two elderly parents sliding into dementia, I didn't need this shit.

Thankyou for not adding to my stress levels. Help if you can, please.

>>106530927
do the dd thing then. heh that sounded dirty. :3

>>106530927
>don't bully
I didn't? All I fucking said was leave it alone if it's that important. This is objectively logical. Meh.

>>106530878
I tried that & it did boot, but I'm concerned about long(er) term stability wit problems I won't see in the next 48 hours. I'm trying to create a master drive that I can make future clones from and use the old drive(s) for other things.

>>106530879
Thank you. That's nice & clear, and about where I'm at. Yeah, I intend to keep the partition 3, I do WANT to keep that. Once I'm happy this is a stable configuration, it's getting cloned to a 512 GB SSD and I want that 4th primary partition as a data partition to keep the C: drive as clean as possible.

As I said, I think that HP partition is for reverting to Win7, something that's not even possible anymore. I did intend to keep a copy, but wasn't certain it would be useful. Kind'a curious if there might be some Win7 code & such that is worth copying from it to modify the Win10 install ... but that's a pipe dream I'll probably never have time to explore.

I really do appreciate the help, guys. I used to hang out on /g/ a lot back years ago, but since ~2018-ish or so life has been mad suck & I just haven't had the time. Was happy to pop back in here and still find some sort of community semi-functional.

>>106530960
OKay. Meh, too. No harm, no foul. I have to fuck with this system, so leaving it alone and installing from scratch aren't part of this problem. I have some systems I can slag & rebuild, but I have a few that I can't, thus my blog.

Thanks for reading. Peace.

>>106530670
Dupeguru and Czkawka should be good, especially as they check for true duplicate files (identical checksums), and include their own methodics depending on what filetype (fuzzy search for images, determining by metadata tags for audio)
Just keep in mind there's no "one-size-fits-all" solution: there are other software that check for file duplicates, but they may resort to determining e.g. by filename/size/date criteria, which is not exactly bulletproof
>>106530718
The ~10 gig partition is the HP recovery partition that you can access from the firmware boot menu, independent from the ~500MB WinRE one that the OS uses for its own recovery purposes
Pretty sure that the OEM recovery is in its own env., and doesn't utilize any hooks for the "push-button reset" thing Windows has since 8
>it most likely contains a Win7-based factory install image, including OEM customizations like bloa-software, drivers etc.
I'm sure you won't miss it nor require it further, no?

>How would I go about doing that safely?
If diskmgmt won't allow you to delete it from the context menu, you'll have to do it from within diskpart command-line:
>list disk
>select disk 0 (diskpart's and diskmgmt's enumeration shouldn't deviate, but make sure you adjust the no. accordingly)
>list par
>select par 4 (ditto)
>delete par override (in case regular 'delete par' fails)
>exit
Careful with these stuff, so that you won't wipe your entire disk
>Not sure if I want to convert MBR to GPT. Would there be benefits to that? It's an older i5 4600-something CPU
A haswell system oughta be UEFI-compliant, so it (probably) won't hurt using the mbr2gpt CLI utility windows has since 10 v1703, especially as you won't be stuck with the MBR layout constraints
https://ss64.com/nt/mbr2gpt.html
Do it from a WinPE-based environment (boot from your Windows install disc, press SHIFT+F10 for cmd prompt)
As long as you have data backups, feel free to take the risk, and set the boot mode to UEFI afterwards (no CSM)

>>106531019
Wonderful. I've used diskpart quite a bit over the years, mostly to clean disks for new installs/reformatting. Not an expert, but but just fearless and stupid enough to be dangerous with it, so I use it cautiously.

I was hoping the HP recovery partition would have no impact in the Win10 install. These couple of posts give me the confidence I wanted to to assume deleting the partition wouldn't need any other cleanup Thanks for the advices & resources.

Especially, thank you for this:
> https://ss64.com/nt/mbr2gpt.html
That's a really helpful jump-off point for me to evaluate if & how I go about it. The system has been decluttered a bit and performs fairly snappy, so the MBR seems to be fine for the moment. Just wanted to know if GPT would give any stability or performance enhancements that would be worth it. I hope to have time to play with that later, but I want to get all possible Win10 pro updates available on all system before microsoft turns them off.

Then I'll move on to ENT conversions I raw install of LTSC versions. If I was doing just one system it'd be fairly easy, especially if it was just mine. But I've got like 8 to do, and each has different considerations for different users who are vastly more retarded than I am about this shit, and have very messy systems I have to somehow clean up.

Ugh. Sun's coming up & I haven't slept since 30 hours ago. This day is going to suck hard.

Thank you, all.

I just did a fresh install of win 10 ltsc, what should I do now? I don't want a bloated OS.

>>106531196
Do whatever you usually do on a new install? Run ShutUp10 on it to disable telemetry and the like and disable auto sample submission and cloud protection in Defender. Then let Windows Update install what it needs and then just do whatever else like install a browser or install a VCRedist AIO pack, maybe install winget via asheroto's winget-install script.

>>106531210
Thank you, I'm new at this, I wanted to try Chris Titus Tech Utility, but I'll do what you said first

>>106531276
WinUtil can do other system-related things as well if you wanna try that out as well.

Friend has a PC whose motherboard was 'shorted out' according to the PC shop he sent it to. It just wouldn't turn on one day.
They replaced the motherboard, but now he's getting crashes to desktop and no display issues when gaming. He's getting around it via hardware tweaks (undervolting his GPU and getting rid of daisy chain PSU power cables for two separate ones for the GPU) but the issues still come back intermittently.
I asked him if the shop did a clean reinstall of Windows after they replaced the motherboard, and apparently they did not. Now I'm wondering if Windows driver conflicts are causing his issues.

>>106531116
>I was hoping the HP recovery partition would have no impact in the Win10 install. These couple of posts give me the confidence I wanted to to assume deleting the partition wouldn't need any other cleanup Thanks for the advices & resources.
Nah, it's not tightly connected to the installed OS; after you delete the partition, the next time you try to access "System/Factory Reset" or something like that from the firmware boot menu, it might whine that there's (obv.) no OEM recovery partition located
But let's be honest, the existence of it is "ease of convenience" rather than "very critical don't delete or you will brick your hardware"
>Just wanted to know if GPT would give any stability or performance enhancements that would be worth it.
For starters, you will overcome MBR's limitations like the maximum limit of 4 partitions per disk (excluding all kinds of ugly stuff like dynamic disks) or the 2TiB disk size limit
Indirectly, you won't be stuck in CSM mode (which given that it was running 7 initially, this is the case) and are able to use native UEFI mode now, and benefit from UEFI-only stuff like Fast Boot (not to be mistaken with Windows' Fast Startup) and Secure Boot

>>106531424
Sounds like a clean re-install of Windows might help here.

>LTSC LTSC LTSC
Why isn't image modification ever seriously discussed here? I know there are a bunch of removemaxxingfags around that obsess over process count like some Unix autist but that shouldn't discount the whole principle.

Also image modifications is an officially supported method for custom installs in enterprise environments, you can fairly easily do any modifications using only MS tools, though injecting GPOs is certainly harder than it should be.

There's not anything present in a default LTSC install that you couldn't do with a modified enterprise image in 10 mins. Also even regular Enterprise gets 3y security updates on any given feature release so stability isn't really a reason and MS is actually providing tools to stop install of unwanted components during feature updates like the group policy to disable particular ProvisionedAppXPackages (though this will only be released to GAC with/after 25H2).

>>106531506
These days people either change to or install Enterprise 10 and run MAS's ESU activator to keep it updated until late 2028, or install IoT LTSC 2021 to get the updates until 2032 and stay on 10.

>>106531458
Yeah. I suggested that to him, but it's going to take a while to do that since he isn't the type that keeps regular backups of his stuff.
Even if a reinstall doesn't solve the problems, it would at least rule out any driver issues. I've always thought that reinstalling Windows after replacing a motherboard was part of the procedure.

>>106531533
>people only install 10
Ah yes of course but its not like win10 22H2 couldn't do with some modifications
I'm also surprised that Server 2022 just isn't discussed here at all
>kernel from 11
>10ui
>superior server system management tools like an actually good update manager

>>106531608
I'm more of a live install tweaker then an ISO tweaker tbhdesu.
Tool out there like Winhance and WinUtil allow you to do those kinds of things to a live install so it's what I go with.

welp I have KB5064081 installed which is the update preview after KB5063878. am I safe or should I uninstall both updates?

>>106531743
It's Patch Tuesday this week anyway, so you might as well just wait for that.

>>106531781
wait for what? you're saying i should keep the kb5064081 update?

>>106531834
Could nullify whatever could be wrong with it who knows

>>106531570
No need to reinstall.

Just go on settings, "reset this PC". Then, pick the "keep my files" option.

Then, download and use DDU:
https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/Download-Display-Driver-Uninstaller-DDU-18131

So the display driver can be 100% removed, then just download and install nvidia/amd drivers again.

If the problem persists, it's a hardware issue.

>>106531617
That's fair enough.
>Winhance
Fairly good but not comprehensive. For example pretty much every home user will have no use for Microsoft.AAD.BrokerPlugin or PowerShellV2 (which even MS recommends removing because its a security risk).
>WinUtil
Kinda really sucks and so does MicroWin but I guess it serves its audience

I haven't been able to find a single graphical tool that is both comprehensive and customisable. May as well just use DISM and the other tools direct for offline or online customisation. Unless you just want to remove some start menu entries

>>106524868
>unfinished firmware versions, which were never intended for end users,
so it’s you buying shitty SSDs

I need some good ways to test my Windows security.
What apps can be used aside from winPEAS?

>>106533252
https://github.com/hfiref0x/UACME
If you want to see why the default configuration for UAC isn't necessarily the best, security-wise

So any /fwt/bros here use any tiling wm? komorebi, glazewm, jwno, whim, etc

Due to the recent interruptions of the Internet services due to the Red Sea incident, our /fwt/ experts will be unavailable for the time being, thank you for your're comprehension.

>>106528981

For my time's sake, I skipped the RAM test and went straight into making a second partition on my main drive and trying to install Windows there, using a Windows 10 LTSC 2021 USB I just made using Rufus. The result was a blue screen on WinPE booting, so yeah, it's definitely a hardware issue.

If you were wondering, just because you mentioned Intel CPUs and stuff, my specs are:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB @ 3200MHz
MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX
Samsung EVO 990 1TB (plus an extra 1TB HDD for data)
Nvidia GeForce 1650 Super
550W PSU (I don't remember the brand, I think it was Corsair)

I think I'll just shell out some money for an AM5 upgrade...

As a side-note, since I first booted into WinPE from a crash (I tried to boot into Windows first to see if the issue was somehow magically fixed), I actually did manage to get into it, but I got a "Windows installation encountered unexpected error" error when the installation was finishing. Trying to boot into it again, I got the same "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" BSOD. A very peculiar problem, indeed.

>>106533252
Seatbelt and JAWS (quite old but fairly popular) are other /sec/ tools used to find security holes, you can use them as second opinions since winPEAS probably found most stuff.

IT'S PATCH TUESDAY

LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR PATCH TUESDAY

>>106524718
This. For some retarded reason, SSD/NVMe are the only pieces of hardware which apparently gotta last for thousands of years.

When GPU/CPU/RAM etc die nobody says anything. But when a nvme from someone's favorite brand dies, it's ALWAYS something else that killed it such as windows, bad cpu overclock, bad psu, bad electricity, anything but admitting their beloved brand cut some corners and used shitty components making the ssd die in just a few months.

Give it to me straight: why are MacOS updates so slow compared to Windows?

>>106524718
To be expected with the progressive enshittification of SSDs from SLC > MLC > TLC > QLC

>>106533532
>>106535153
thanks, i’ll look into these
I’m fairly locked down from the CIS baseline + I use a standard account with renamed and disabled built-in admin and guest, and Admin Approval Mode with Enhanced Security, just want to test it out and see how well protected I am.

>>106520962
try FastStone Capture and LICEcap for screen gifs

I feel like I'm going crazy. I've been using win 10 iot ltsc for months and my FPS feels lower, my freesync only works in full screen games (no more borderless windowed for me!), and yet I love the lack of BS.

Linux would be my go to if it wasn't for the anti cheat stuff. What's my solution here? I feel I've spent hours reading and trying random solutions atp. CS2 and TF2 are the games I'm suffering with the most lately. Even League drops frames occasionally.

>>106530959
You dirty little boy! :3

>>106540179
did you update drivers or something? I'd start with the usual DDU/DirectX cache clear and reinstalling drivers

>>106534959
Just fucking test the RAM. Do it overnight or some shit.

>>106533532
>needs compiling
ugh

>>106519156 (OP)
sex with sophie!

>>106540197
Already done- this was my like 3rd or 4th thing I tried.

Minor MAS update

>>106540436
including an older graphics version?

>>106533532
I compiled and ran some of it and like nothing happened, no output or anything. I could only get the system enumeration to work.

>>106540472
Always good to see.

>>106530670
Get Duplicate Cleaner off of Softonic, but get the v4 instead of newest. Very easy and practical to use.

>>106527020
What the fuck is that technobabble? Any anon can verify via Task Manager for himself.
Fuck off with your pretentious /b/ullshit.

>>106532398
Does resetting Windows this way remove all the installed drivers too?
If it's as clean as a full reinstall but keeps personal files, it's definitely the better option for him.

>>106541933
Using Reset This PC with "keep all files" selected is basically like completely re-installing Windows in a live environment, yes. Do what anon said though and use DDU to fully remove the driver for his graphics card to installing a fresh one will be truly fresh.

>>106541949
I'll tell him to try that first. Thanks anons.

September updoot for Windows 10 came out and surprisingly it changed the About page in Settings. I mean, why would MS bother with a system they're in the process of phasing out?

>>106542811
It's still getting the three years of ESU updates, anon. Plus IoT LTSC 2021's 2032 EoL.

>>106542826
I know, in fact it is LTSC with 22H2 enablement package. But ESU and LTSC updates are supposed to be security and critical stuff only. Why bother changing the About page?

>>106542840
The cumulative updates also sneak in shit like that sometimes. Like a cumulative update snuck in Windows Backup to LTSC as well.

>>106542811
Maybe it didn't took a lot to make that change, and it was already announced some months ago

>>106542811
I just got this on my IoT LTSC. What stupid bullshit. How about fixing something that's broken instead of trying to "fix" something that's not.
What even annoys me more are the stupid fucking FAQ's in that accordion telling (You) that you should update to Windows 11.
I hate Microsoft so much.

>>106542904
>What even annoys me more are the stupid fucking FAQ's in that accordion telling (You) that you should update to Windows 11.
I could understand this being in GAC Windows 10, but this really shouldn't be in LTSC

>>106542953
I hate Microsoft so much.

>>106542811
>updating

>>106542904
Condescending tone means they don't really respect their customers.

linux is so terrible, i want to go home

>>106544061
>he fell for the Linux meme
It's ok, we all make mistakes from time to time. Welcome back

>>106544061
It's okay at work if you need to stare at one software 24/7.
Irix is great at home too but that ship has sailed 20 years ago.
Linux is still trash for normal user.

I'm reinstalling windows this weekend. What version of LTSC should I use? I'm thinking win11 so I could fully utilize my 4070 tis.

>>106544276
Why?

>>106544276
Well if you want an 11 base then use IoT LTSC 2024.

>>106544317
Getting bsod by simply playing vidya. Nothing's wrong with hardware as far as my testing goes.

>>106544382
Still rocking a 3700x and 16gb or ram tho. I fear win11 would eat my already low memory.
Why though OP still recommends iot ltsc 2021?

>>106544425
Because the OP is incredibly bias against 11 personally.

Me >>106530765 >>106530718 updating, just in case any of the info is useful to anyone.

Thank for the help, anons
>>106530878 >>106530879 >>106531019
>>106530983 >>106531436

So, I used diskpart to nuke the HP_RECOVERY partition, did a few other things. For funsies, I used Partition Wizard to disk copy from the working SSD to a 64 GB SDXC card via a USB 3 adapter. Took some time, but resized nicely. Then disk copied back from SDXC card to old, repurposed 128 GB SSD.

Boot checked from the new copy SSD & system barfed at BIOS. Per pic related what it looks like with just the two SSDs on the system, and booted from the original that still has the factory recovery partition. Win decided to attach drive letters to some of the new partitions on the new SSD, so disk manager and removed drive letters. Shut down, pull all drives off and reattach new SSD without recovery partition, boots perfectly.

Played with the system a little bit to see if anything obvious broke, doesn't seem to be, although still too soon to say definitely. However, I really like using diskpart for the dirty work because the remote possibility of dicking the registry or something is largely eliminated since windows itself performed the operation.

Also did a diskcopy with PartWiz from the new SSD to a spare 64 GB USB 3 flash drive. I happen to have about 20 or 30 (including SDXC) around the place not doing anything since I have larger & newer data storage options since 8 or so years ago. Really comfy having two or three backups taped inside the case of each PC that I can revert to when Thing Go Wrong.

I sleep now. Been a couple days. Tanks for being /g/bros and all around good /g/uys. I be doing other weird shit in the coming months. C'ya all around.

Which group tweaks are important for privacy, or just getting rid of annoying nagging from Microsoft, that have no GUI alternative, I notice even PrivacyGuides and op rentry have so many placebo things applied that are for previous versions of windows and don't even work, or they're applied despite being able to be disabled through gui/settings. I have the essentials by now I think for a Windows 11 Education install, but wonder if I missed anything major I'm not remembering:
>Show or hide most used list from Start menu
>Turn off Windows Error Reporting
>Turn off Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program
>Allow Diagnostic Data
>Don't search the web or display web results in Search
>Prevent the use of security questions for local accounts

>>106544824
Disable automatic updates policy. You can still update but only when you click download..

>>106544425
Run furmark and some cpu benchmarks. Could be that your motherboard does not regulate power correctly.

>>106544837
Does the policy work properly? I hear conflicting info of a lot of people saying it's practically placebo and they often times have the PC update automatically on boot no matter what, which wouldn't surprise me with how Microsoft treats it as the biggest security sin ever to not auto updoot all the time. Or are they all just retards running meme debloated versions of windows that broke something?

>>106544923
That's b.s. If it's a configured policy it works.