Thread 106523547

New PC

What should I choose?

>>106523547 (OP)
I hate AI and engagement threads so much

i use windows btw

>>106523547 (OP)
Windows unless you'd like to get hacked.

>>106523547 (OP)
Why not both?

>>106523547 (OP)
macOS

>>106523547 (OP)
Operating system or a kernel? Probably the first one

>>106523563
nobody cares go be 1st post in some other thread you attention seeking faggot

>>106523734
Linux exploits:
>Usually discovered by a random autistic IT worker, and fixed in a day or two without any serious damage
Windblows exploits:
>Mostly discovered by black hats, sold in black markets, was probably a glowie backdoor and you had to wait until millions of computers got infected with ransomware so that mocroshit finally does something about it.

>>106523547 (OP)
That depends. What do you usually use your computer for?

>>106523831
Both are shit then? Cool.

if you must use massgrave scripts just keep an eye on your gpu "idle" temps.

>>106523734
jej

>>106523904
basically this, also I believe OP is a faggot troll or a 12 year old

>>106523831
>Windblows
You are a super edgy 13-year-old, I see.
>Windows exploits
I haven't seen one yet that affected the average user and didn't have to fulfill a fuckton of prerequisites to even happen.

>>106524007
umm anons? why arent you guys posting "womm" and "skill issue" screenshots to refute the implications here?

>>106524340
Those scripts are open source. No need to respond to a fool.

>>106524358
only guilt or cope would illicit such a response. dude, we hear this specifically over on the linux side all the time and its never true there either.
btw my isp blocked traffic to 62.102.148.189 from my laptop that has LITERALLY no other installed software on it. for no reason im assuming.

>>106524424
You are possibly retarded?

>>106524440
possible. is that relevant?
idk dude. i cant prove it and im not going to try. all i can tell you for sure is my gpu should not be idling at 53 degees. its cold here and now, when im sure nothing fucky is going on its idling at 32.

>>106524471
>is that relevant?
Well, this question makes it apparent. Good luck to you, stranger. I hope you get many (You)s.

>>106523547 (OP)
Windows runs everything, and has WSL if you want to work in a linux environment. The hacker culture no longer exists around linux, so what's the appeal? It's like running a bad version of windows. If you really just want to tinker with something, mess around with BSD.

>>106524525
what a strange exchange.

>>106523547 (OP)
>Windows 11 or Linux?
Linux with a virtual Windows 10. Or a dual boot if you really need a real Windows. But fuck Windows 11, if you use it, you encourage Microsoft to go on with the enshitification.

>>106524550
>It's like running a bad version of windows
but less bad than Windows 10 and 11, so...

>>106524029
Cope harder winjeet.

>>106524637
Immediately resorted to name-calling and didn't even attempt to prove me wrong. Thanks for admitting I'm right, and you're wrong, I accept your concession. Filtered. Reply more, I'll never see it. I know you can't resist.

>>106523734
>ai schizo babble on why only corporations should be allowed to do things
and people just take everything at face value. it actually, unironically, is over.

>>106524665
>0 actual arguments made
>gets butthurted and "filter" you like a redditor
Ok saar have a nice day

>>106524471
>monitoring temperature instead of power draw
i will answer the question: yes you are retarded

>>106524665
>Filtered. Reply more, I'll never see it.
lol

>>106524602
No, I run Windows11 Pro, I'd pick this setup over any other operating system out there. With a Linux desktop, I'd immediately run into issues running multiple monitors with different resolutions and scaling. Wayland isn't even the answer either, as software I require does not work with it.

What realistically do I gain in the end? Given that I'm also throwing out lots of useful Windows only software.

>>106524711
>Pro
lol

>>106523547 (OP)
There's definitely a learning curve to Linux, so the sooner you jump into it, the sooner you'll be comfortable. Windblows is just there and has a fuck ton of problems. My last machine on Windows decided to update (even though I manually turned off automatic updates) and bricked my SSD. Thankfully it was just a low end PC that I now use as my media server, but I'd be fucked if I had still been using it on other machines.

>>106524550
>Muh 1337 h4xx0r culture
What the bro is yapping about? I am just a poorfag with an ancient computer that cannot run bloated shit. I just run mint xfce.

Too many mendacious lintroons in this thread. Just use windows, thank me later.

>>106523547 (OP)
Every time you are making a retarded question this like, ask yourself what your friends or parents would do. Normal people would just install windows and get on with their day. Quit overthinking unimportant shit.

>>106524602
>freetard filtered by goysumer editions
windows 10 ltsc/server with defender uninstalled uses less ram than desktop linux with gnome or kde plasma and is better in every single way. stability too.
>>106524716
not a problem here.

>>106523904
web browsing and gaming (10%)

>>106524877
Kill yourself poltard

what's the DE on the right

>>106525024
l2n2google, newfriend.

>>106523547 (OP)
Do you have no life and enjoy problem solving with computers? If so pick Linux, if not Win 10 LTSC.

There is very little use case for bothering with Win 11 at this time.

>>106524711
>Wayland isn't even the answer either, as software I require does not work with it.
At this point that's kind of like someone in 2003 saying they can't move from windows 9x because they need software that requires DOS.
On the one hand, if it's true then it's true and no amount of arguing will change that.
On the other hand, at some point you surely need accept that you need to find and migrate to software that does use new standards.

What software?

Windows 10 LTSC
/thread

>>106523921
Kill yourself

>>106524665
Poo in the loo pajeet

>>106524711
Also keep in mind that even software that "doesn't work with Wayland" will still actually run just fine thanks to Xwayland. The only issue would be that those windows will look a bit blurry. Like running old non-DPI-aware programs on Windows.

>>106524572
ohhh hes pretending my "its not true" is refering to it being open source. it didnt even occur to me that somebody might intentionally missinterpret that. thats so silly.

>>106525849
>The only issue would be that those windows will look a bit blurry.
Lol, and I should just put up with that.... because?

>>106526525
You shouldn't, but you're also apparently insisting on using ancient broken software that can't scale properly.
I'm using Fedora 42 KDE with one monitor at 125% scale and another at 100%. So far all the software I've tried to use scales perfectly. What software are you using that doesn't?

>>106525784
>What software?
Vivado (FPGA software). Unless something has changed within the past year, it only supports X11 on Linux. Now you're going to tell me "I don't need that", but that's ok, this isn't my first time interacting with freetards though.

Again I'll ask the question, what am I gaining by switching to desktop hobby OS?

>>106526593
>ancient broken software
There's the linux cult in action.

>>106526647
>>106526670
I'll admit that "ancient broken" is a bit overdramatic, but high DPI displays have been widespread for many years now. If a recent release of a given piece of software doesn't support DPI scaling, that's a serious deficiency.
If it supports it on Windows but not on Linux, then it's not crazy to suggest that its claimed support for Linux is lacking at best and broken at worst.

Some X11 programs do actually have good support for DPI scaling and those have worked fine under KDE Wayland sessions since 2022: https://pointieststick.com/2022/06/17/this-week-in-kde-non-blurry-xwayland-apps/
I don't know whether Vivado is like that.

>what am I gaining by switching
Honestly I don't care if you switch or not, I'm not trying to evangelise it. If you need software that doesn't run well on Linux then that's a compelling reason to not use Linux.

I've personally found that KDE has improved enough in the past few years that any remaining reasons to use Windows have pretty much disappeared. My current setup involves switching between a Fedora 42 KDE work machine and a Windows personal machine with a KVM. I find Fedora nicer to use and less troublesome than Windows so I'll probably switch over the personal machine soon.

>>106523547 (OP)
Simple.

Are you planning on building a server?
>Linux
Are you planning on using your computer for work and any video game (all of them)
>Windows

>>106523547 (OP)
I recently got Kubuntu (2 days ago) because Windows started acting up after I tried renaming my main user acc, and desu it really depends on what you're going to do with it. My activities consist of gaming, programming, web browsing and arting, which are all the same apps as on Windows, so my experience basically is exactly the same. If you're going to be doing more Office-y stuff it might change more but generally speaking performance and experience is the same, other than a few small shortcut changes.

>>106523547 (OP)
If it comes with Windows, keep it so you don't lose the warranty, or at least up until it expires... otherwise, Linux.

>>106523547 (OP)
Im more of a IOS kinda guy

>>106523547 (OP)
>Deepin
FULL of xiaoxiao glowies. I'd take windows over that.