Thread 106524052

>30% of Microsoft code is written by AI

>"I'd say maybe 20%, 30% of the code that is inside of our repos today and some of our projects are probably all written by software,"

>Google CEO Sundar Pichai in October said that more than 25% of new code was written by AI. Earlier this month, Shopify CEO Tobi Lutke told employees that they will have to prove AI cannot do a job before asking for more headcount. Similarly, Duolingo CEO Luis von Ahn on Monday announced in a memo that the language-teaching company will gradually turn to AI in lieu of human contractors.

Is this true?

>>106524052 (OP)
Unit tests are about as big as the actual code.
AI has become pretty good at writing unit tests, so this statistic is not as big of a deal as it seems.

>>106524052 (OP)
That would explain why everything they put out lately is even more broken and buggy than usual.

>>106524236
>AI has become pretty good at writing unit tests

so they use AI for mostly useless tasks

>>106524236
How do they know that the unit test tests the correct thing and verifies the results correctly?
He also said "some of our projects" are all written by AI.

>>106524052 (OP)
Last time a MAGMA company said that it was only true because they replaced their autocomplete algorithm by an some AI that did the same thing 3% better.

>>106524052 (OP)
That was four months ago. AI is writing at least 50% of all software developed now. The future is here and it is coming.

A ceo wouldn't know a git repo from a foosball table, the fuck does he know about the percentage of code across repos that's generated?

>>106524338
The amount of unit tests correlates with how shitty the software is.
If people rely on unit tests, it means there no longer is a single dude who knows how all of it works and checks the newbs code.
Instead everyone is just guessing and praying to the Unit Test God, that their change won't break it.

>>106524052 (OP)
cheap shitskins and AI will ruin everything, mark my words.

>>106524465
I dug into a set of repos at work where Claude was being used recently to write tests, and the new tests are complete dogshit. The critical parts of the data ingest validation process that we actually need tests for are just being mocked out instead, and all the tests have ended up has an obfuscated way of performing a "True == True" check.

>>106525348
True. The Microsoft CEO statement doesn't make sense at all. Most Microsoft code is probably old shit that nobody dares to touch because it will break. There's no way they would have rewritten 30% of it, even with AI.

>>106525408
>>106525595
Fun. I believe it.

>>106524236
>vibe check the vibecode
Horrifying.

huh so that's how all those ssds bricked in an update

>>106524052 (OP)
These dumb assholes used to gatekeep by asking inane bullshit riddles. Look at where we are at now. Fuck you microsoft. Also fuck Microsoft Answers no I will not sfc /scannow

https://www.amazon.com/How-Would-Move-Mount-Fuji/dp/0316778494

>>106524052 (OP)
Since AI stands for "actually indian", yes it's true at Microshit.

>>106525137
Post hands and pay stub

>>106524052 (OP)
Take it with a grain of salt. These numbers are based on reports from employees who were informed that "using AI" is a new KPI. Nobody actually counts anything as it's rather not possible and also you have incentive to report a number that is slightly higher than what the other team reported.

t. MS FTE

>>106526722
You don't have to tell that to me, but the media who keep repeating it, and the retards who fully believe it.

>>106525518
karma

>>106525518
Yeah they will control the robots with a joystick and youll be seething.

>>106524052 (OP)
Good to know that pajeets are destroying microsoft from the inside out

>>106524052 (OP)
C#/dotnet is the only microsoft product I use. I don't think you can ai code a compiler or a runtime.

>>106528259
C# is their only based product. Azure sucks and Postgres is far superior to SQL server

>>106526474
just vibecode a vibe check for the vibe check. simple.

>>106524052 (OP)
yes that's clearly the publicity you need after pushing an update that fucked up a bunch of SSDs

>>106524052 (OP)
>Dogshit company continues to be dogshit
What's the problem?

I hope it becomes 100% fucking Ai so I can break through security barriers easier

>>106525518
It has already ruined everything, the issue is that the government continues to bail them out every quarter
These fucking dinosaurs need to be put down

To be expected no? AI writes better code than all juniors and most seniors. If anything I expected the number to be higher given they have unlimited access to internal models. Number will be close to 100% around 2030. I'm the lead programmer in my company and I'm pretty sure I've written less than 50 LoC myself during this whole year.
Doesn't matter what anyone thinks this is corporate reality.

>>106529612
>AI writes better code than all juniors and most seniors.
retard alert

>>106524052 (OP)
>you really think a pajeet would do that? Just go on an interview and lie?

>>106529671
I know where you're coming from but believe me you're overestimating the abilities of the average SWE or CS grad. Once you've managed a team you'll come to realize this. Also thinking AI is a fad or an autocompletion machine will only be a disservice to you.

>>106524052 (OP)
AI is Actual Indians. That thing isn't running by itself, so you get retarded jeets with AI software

>>106529726
My GPU is a Pajeet? is local LLM slavery?

>>106524052 (OP)
Microsoft was already shitting out shit products before theu shitted up their code with AI.

>>106525595
Not surprised one bit, "AI" is automated jeet coding, completely useless

I need to see headcount drop by the thousands, every six months or so, for me to believe that. And barely no hiring. Then I will believe they are truly relying on LLMs.

>>106524052 (OP)
This is like saying that 30% of the code was written by an IDE.

>>106524324
that has been the case for couple of decades

>>106524338
Its pretty good to write a decent chunk of code, it fumbles after a certain period. however it still can be mitigated with good MCP framework. Rate limits are the true bottleneck an that is likely gonna get better in handful of years

>>106525348
They mandate the CTOs to implement it and everyone below scrambles below to comply

>>106532170
I believe this is what the big companies, which are pushing for AI, really want: to replace code monkeys. They want it to be true, so they will try it.

>>106524052 (OP)
>Duolingo will gradually turn to AI
I could see this for a more interactive approach for something like conversations to learn, but still, you can't replace real humans with AI, like holy shit bro, they put a fucking ad every time you finish a lection, how much more money do they want?

>>106529589
If you dont support corporate bail out, you're a billionaire Nazi who wants to pull the rug for the poor big corporates.

>>106525137
>The future is here and it is coming.
don't forget to close your eyes

>>106524052 (OP)
>old tech company that's probably mostly legacy code is 30% AI generated
not believable. what a dumb statement

>>106524052 (OP)
>30% of new code is AI written
>windows has never been worse/less performant, Linux usage has been increasing, windows has fucked up peoples hard drives via updates

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>106533072
>be indian
>graduated from most prestegious american university
>land job at microsoft
>do absolute best, using every bit of knowledge and wisdom that was taught
>helloworld.c: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>Windows doesn't work, push it to Windows Update anyway
>customers threaten to sue
>the AI did it I swear
tl;dr they're using the elon defense

>>106524052 (OP)
>Satya: It's not enshittification, it's a feature!
Does that mean that now is the golden time to learn Windows system programming?

It's going to be very funny in a few years when they rewrite the windows kernel with AI and none of the ancient boomers who actually understood a fraction of it are around to bail them out.

>>106537090
At least the zoomers will stop becoming programmers and/or AI rot their brain so much that they're useless and never learned their craft. Well possible that the old man they laughed at will save their lives with a single bash command!

>>106524052 (OP)
they will take everything that was laid before them and destroy it