Thread 106531496

Coding is a fucking joke now

>>106531496 (OP)
These conferences are for the markets, it’s mostly bullshit. He’s trying to make “line go up” and cash out.

>>106531496 (OP)
Yes.
Learn to plumb.

>30% of LoC
>code is a joke now
How is that a bad thing? Maybe compare percentage of commits containing AI "written" LoC or developer time spent doing inane verbose bullshit vs actually fixing meaningful problems.

they're gonna need actual programmers when all the pajeets crash FAGMAN with no survivors

>>106531496 (OP)
>30% written by AI
>now bricking your ssd
hmm.....

>>106531496 (OP)
Learn to flip burgers

Before LLMs, what percentage was machine generated boilerplate code? Anyone who has worked deep into the internals of Windows knows boilerplate is a huge percentage of its code. LLMs should be able to at least match up with the percentage of boilerplate code.

>written by AI
i.e. tab complete but 2% better

Someone post that "Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI -> New Windows 11 update kills SSDs" headline compilation.

>>106532248
at your service, kek

>>106531496 (OP)
Before AI most code was copy and pasted from Stackoverflow. (Especially for Webdev )

>>106532287
webshittery shouldnt be even called programming
its fucking arts and crafts
the most complicated thing one has to do is to code a menu

>>106532328
Webshit is quite difficult in my opinion. All those retarded frameworks are a pain in the ass.

>>106532338
i dont disagree, but its something you "solve" by learning em by heart
it doesnt compare with any other branch of programming

write a wolfenstein clone. preferably in c so that you have to manage memory
and that is an easy programming problem to solve

webshittery doesnt even register on that scale

>>106531623
>only one confirmed report
two more weeks!

>>106531698
Right?
If you use AI for anything but Wizard-tier generated code, you're risking disaster.
One off simple functions that don't do anything important, easy simple framework to work with.
If it is for secure code, generate, test the fuck out of it, rewrite it even.
But do not use that shit as-is, we're simply not there yet, not for anything reliable, consistent or secure.

>>106531496 (OP)
I have to install Windows for my courses and I hate having to touch this vide-coded malware.

>>106531496 (OP)
1. This number(30%) is made up
2. 30% is ridiculous. Most of it is probably boilerplate code, docs, huge hash tables and things like that.
3. OP is a nigger.

>>106531496 (OP)
>INVESTOR SIRS,,, AI DOING THE CODING NEEDFUL THIS IS CALLED AS EFFICIENT GAINS
>BOARD OF DIRECTOR SIRS KINDLY PREPONE THE DIVIDEND DISTRIBUTIONINGS

>>106532499
I agree. Most webshittery is "hard" but you can "brute force" a shitty solution without problem (especially on front end) Meanwhile if you make something complex in C you need to manage memory correctly and safely.
It doesn't change the fact that WebDev is annoying as fuck, with retarded dependencies everywhere, making it "complicated"

>>106532800
The both funniest and scariest trend I'm seeing is letting LLMs write both the code and the unit tests for that code. People keep declaring it to be the most wonderful thing ever until they actually take a peep into the code of the unit tests and see it's mostly "we investigated ourselves and determined we did nothing wrong".

>>106531623
Phison actually put out a report on that.
According to them it's neither due to faulty SSD controller hardware, nor due to a faulty Windows update. The actual cause appears to be the affected end-users using SSDs that for some weird reason were using outdated pre-release firmware. Firmware versions that normally are reserved for early review models and were never meant for everyday use.

For those not realizing it yet: this is a covert admittance on Phison's part of what's been suspected for a longer time:
That SSD manufacturers rig performance comparison reviews by using non-standard firmware that knowingly and intentionally makes SSDs perform outside of long-term safe margins for everyday use.

>>106531496 (OP)
Op is a joke

>>106531496 (OP)
>more progress in python than c++
this has to be because python will accept almost any dogshit and run in no matter how wrong

>>106531496 (OP)
Nothing fills my heart with joy quite like seeing codemonkeys absolutely raped by golems who are incapable of saying anything than stock business catchphrases and buzzwords

I wrote like 90% of a project I've been working on at work this week with AI. Shit's nice. But I do have to correct it a low and keep it on track. You can't be a retard and get paid the big bucks to do this. Or maybe you can I dunno, if so good on you.

>>106531496 (OP)
>now

>>106531496 (OP)
it always was, bro

import another npm module faggot

>>106531496 (OP)
>less in C++
Obligatory picrel

>>106537094
kys jeet

>>106537550
>he doesn't work smarter not harder

>>106537362
this is not only fake but ripped off from a Dilbert strip (canonically, Dogbert and The Garbageman invented the internet as a prank to see how long people would wait for pornography)

>>106531623
Nadella just pulled that number out of his ass, because he believes people want to hear that more code is being written by AI.
Probably not wrong, since I think they have their own AI.
They probably want to justify all that spending in it, so
>HURR DURR 30% SAARRS
>THIRDY BURCEND WINDOWS CODED BY GORGEOUS AI SAARS
to kind of create the illusion that investor money is going into something worthwhile.
Yeah, I'm sorry, no wonder they all have Jeets as their CEOs, if nobody's going to call them out on their bullshit.
Those guys are the most shameless!
You either call them out, and that's where it hurts those that are shameless the most, or you don't, and suffer more Jeet CEO.
>picrel
Windows, if that were remotely true.

>>106535366
Thanks for the info.
How exactly did one specific update fuck it all up?
Massive (re)writes?
Did Windows just execute a "kill all non vendor approved firmware devices" command?

>>106537847
>Windows, if that were remotely true.
This was the choice, of course, but
>nothing
fits just as well, lol.

>>106537847
>How exactly did one specific update fuck it all up?
no one knows because it's made the fuck up and one (1) high profile retard bricked his SSD and merely blamed windows update

>>106537847
>How exactly did one specific update fuck it all up?
Nvm, I missed that part where that correlation only seems like causation, I see.
>>106537903
>one (1) high profile retard bricked his SSD
Ah yes, often the case.
I really have no idea, since I don't really care about Windows anymore, derp.

>>106537903
this sounds like corporate damage control. i dont believe you with how often this "it was only one person" shill line is spammed here. sure man, one singular individual amongst a billion windows users had this problem. sure man.

>>106531507
This. Most AI related shit you'll see online is marketing garbage. Global markets were kind of going to shit in the last decade so they really needed some stupid shit to hype up their products.

I read somewhere that they are forcing at least a percentage of their owned subsidiaries to use AI code on a daily basis, like fucking King (Developers of Candy Crush).
What type of fucking productivity are you going to see from developers that made a bejeweled clone using AI?

90% of code written prior was by copy-paste from Stackoverflow, so this is just ragebaiting.

>>106531496 (OP)
Learn to draw, it's fun at least

>>106539748
Stack overflow hasn't been updated in over a decade.

>>106531496 (OP)
>Our success is generating 30% of our code
I hear
>30% of our entire company's value exists due to a copy paste function

>using a LANGUAGE MODEL for ENGINEERING
lol

>>106531496 (OP)
yep and Bloatbuntu is averaging 15% better on encoding benchmarks than Win 11 now

https://www.phoronix.com/review/windows-11-25h2-ubuntu-2510

That explains a lot.

>>106537189
28pbp

>>106539895
>that pic
lmao, can ai create a pic like this?

>>106531507
fpbp

>>106532781
"If we just don't confirm any reports, we win!"

>>106541461
thats a big straw

>>106537603
I am working smartarr saaarrr you bloody benchod

>>106533345
It's fine bro, we just write a unit test for the unit test, and then one for that.
Surely it won't get it wrong THREE times? :^^^)

Nadella is obsessed with AI and completely invested in it, so he will absolutely lie about this to prop up this failed experiment. This infatuation with AI might be the thing that removes him as a CEO.

>>106531549
HOLY SHIT

>>106531496 (OP)
Developing high level programming skills is still useful (for now).
Personally I'm glad for our AI vibe-coding tools. They make an awful tedious task bearable.

>>106531496 (OP)
Microsoft is a joke, being an actual programmer is cool.

>>106541613
Nope, I tried, it can barely even gen Yakub, and I'm literally using the artist's lora

Who the fuck is going to MAINTAIN all this vibe code shit 10 years from now?
Where does M$ see itself in 10 years?

>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE LE HECKIN AI TO PRODUCE AN APP THAT'S MY JO-ACK!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1n319nn/dentist_built_a_cephalometric_analysis_app_with/

>>106531623
>Actually Indians
Checks out.

>>106545614
>bro just let your dentist vibe code radiography equipment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25

>>106545604
They will pivot to the hardware market and will make you buy a new computer every year.

I will now shut down.

>>106546470
theres boobies on that page