Thread 106540665

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106528809

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Spam duplicate thread
Real thread below
>>106540541
>>106540541
>>106540541

>>106540708
This thread is not spam. You keep your inflammatory OP until it's moderated out of the board.

Are you an ATX, Micro ATX or ITX fellow?

>>106540760
ITX or E/ATX, mATX is a bit in-betweeny.

>>106540754
>Only Im allowed to bake the OP with my opinions
Go back to plebbit

>>106540800
Except I waited for someone else to make their own, sane, drama-free, OP.
I trust you'll be able to make an OP that won't be moderated away.

>>106540760
I've built exactly one of each.

>>106540809
Different opinions then your own does not equal drama. Again you need to go back. Expression of opinions even unpopular ones against consensus are allowed on 4chan. You do not have a monopoly on the OP.

>>106540887
>not equal drama
>'Umm TransForce xisters wtf?'
>'AVOID Shittel'

And just straight up misinformation/marketing shill about SAM.
>ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM
The chart doesn't show any performance advantage for AMD GPU + AMD CPU.

>>106540914
>The chart doesn't show any performance advantage for AMD GPU + AMD CPU.
5060 ti is simply a little bit faster than 9060 XT in many gpu bound titles kys shill that chart is irrelevant. AMD GPU + CPU provides the most benefit in CPU bound games due to less overhead on nvidia cards and SAM helps with better frametime stability. AMD engineers have themselves said there are specific optimizations with SAM when it is both an AMD CPU and GPU.

>>106540958
>less overhead on nvidia cards
less overhead on *radeon cards.

>>106540958
>AMD engineers have themselves said there are specific optimizations with SAM when it is both an AMD CPU and GPU
AMD engineers have never said this because it's bullshit

>>106540958
Why are you even looking at the 5060 Ti in that chart when I was talking about the bullshit claim about AMD CPU + AMD GPU is the most optimal combination for Radeon cards?
The FPS difference between similar tiers of Intel/AMD CPUs is basically a run-to-run variation.
Obvious except for the X3D because Intel doesn't have an answer to that.

>>106541001
>The FPS difference between similar tiers of Intel/AMD CPUs is basically a run-to-run variation.
Again because these are almost entirely gpu bound results dumbass. kys

>>106541021
>almost entirely gpu bound results
So they're not entirely gpu bound.
No clear SAM benefit in CS2 either (far more CPU bound).

>>106541055
>Posts another gpu bound chart like a retard
CS2 on very hight setting is clearly gpu limited since 9600x is getting pretty much the same performance as 9800x3d
Kys

>>106541243
Your SAM shilled charts weren’t running the systems at CPU bound scenarios.
>>106540367
>>106540386

>Have an i9-9900k
>RTX 3080
>Still get 75+ fps on high-ish settings on single player games.
>120fps+ in any game with competitive titles (apex legends, Overwatch, etc)
>only game that dives to around 25fps is World of warcraft during extremely heavy player open world areas and 30 man raids
>Go into BIOS and disable Hyperthreading so my 9900k is essentially now a 9700k because I read that MMORPGs are very CPU bound and on die cache dependent
>disabling hyperthreading cores makes the cache shared to less logical processors
>overclock the 9900k to 5.3GHz because no hyperthreading cores gives me more voltage headroom (used to only be able to get 5.0GHz with all 16 threads)
>Getting almost 50fps in WoW in areas I used to drop as low as 30

I was like super close to buying a 9800X3D which would have required a new motherboard, new cooler, new RAM, and new SSD (current Samsung 960 EVO 500GB is at 39% health). Now it looks like my 9900k just isn't gonna die. Honestly I think I'll end up just building an entirely new build, GPU included when Intel releases their 3D cache competitor to AMD's 3D stuff.

>>106541491
You'll be spoiled for choice next year, but Zen 6 is more likely to be a good chip than Intel's Nova Lake
You should also overclock the memory to improve FPS. Intel CPUs scale well with memory OCs.
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md

>>106541512
>You should also overclock the memory to improve FPS. Intel CPUs scale well with memory OCs.
my Memory kit is unfortunately pretty shit for overclocking, but fantastic for timing tuning. I had a first generation Ryzen back when Ryzen was extremely picky about memory kits. It's a G-skill 2x16GB kit of Samsung B-die 3200Mhz @ 14-14-14-34 timings. I was able to get it down to 3200MHz @ 12-12-12-32 with stock voltage. Will not OC past 3600MHz even if I feed it stupid voltage. I have a Patriot Viper kit of 4400MHz CL19 memory in my closet but it's only 2x8GB and games/Windows uses so much RAM these days, I don't wanna downgrade to 16GB
>Zen 6 vs Nova Lake
I'm just hoping Intel brings something with 3D on die cache that beats AMD in some way, even if it's only more cache. I know AMD has 96MB of cache but I remember reading somewhere Intel was floating ideas of 144MB cache and MMO's LOVE that cache, so I'm going to buy the best option for WoW.

>>106541538
It's likely because the 9900k just sucks at handling dual rank sticks and z390 and z370 boards prefer four slots, and not your memory sticks that are the problem. 4x8gb b-die will fly on your 9900k if you have an MSI or Asus board. Gigabyte board has problems training memory speeds faster than 3800mhz
Anyway most of the gain with memory oc can be had from tightening timings like trrd_s, trrd_l, tfaw, tRFC and tREFI

So the only thing left on my build is the gpu and the bar is that it has to be capable of running mh wilds on 60fps on 1080p looking here on my third world country the 5060ti 16gb and the 5070 have a difference of roughly 70usd so what should I choose?

>>106541628
At only a 70 USD difference, get the 5070.

>>106541628
Why is being able to run a fundamentally broken game the requirement

5070 is better value

>>106540760
I like matx. It's easy to build smaller machines, but you've usually got at least one PCIe slot available for expansion needs. It also avoids the ITX tax. ATX is great, but a lot of them are built in an odd way, where populating all the m.2 will turn off all your PCIe slots, which sorta defeats the purpose of having the slots IMO.

>>106540760
atx because you won't have as much clearance issues

nicotroon clitty leak melty because his brand loyalist thread isnt getting used

>>106540665 (OP)
Right now I'm just using a basic laptop, but when I do upgrade I want the best consumer-grade components on the market for gaming and video editing. I haven't upgraded yet because I'm not completely satisfied with the 5090's performance and the power cable being a fire hazard. The most powerful gaming CPU's AMD 9800x3d and 9950x3d lack QuickSync. That's why I think it's better to just wait for the 6090's release so I can see how it compares and determine if the higher price is worth the extra performance or if it makes more sense to settle for something cheaper. I'm hoping that Intel will release another flagship CPU that beats AMD's flagship not too long before or after the 6090's so I can pick a clear winner. AMD does not have QuickSync or something equivalent as far as I know. You may wonder why I care so much about QuickSync. Because I intend to spend a lot of time learning and using DaVinci Resolve. I want that to be a smooth experience when I finally spend the time and money building a system I've been holding off for so long. One of my concerns is that I get unlucky with the "silicon lottery" where components fail/die prematurely. I'm especially concerned with the more expensive parts. Can you conservatively estimate lifespan for the various component types assuming I have optimalized cooling? Speaking of cooling I think custom watercooling should be optimal, but I'm unsure if the extra price and hassle will be worth the potential increased longevity and performance. What are your thoughts?

>>106541730
>wait for the 6090's release
lol
it'll be 600W and have the same cable just like the rtx pro 6000

>Me when no one cared enough to bother even just shitposting in my bake of the general and also when I remember I way overpaid for a 7900xtx 24gb in the name of "future proofing"
Getting so sick of being the loser

>>106541802
You're part of the problem.

>>106541802
why
do you
spam that
picture
every thread
with redundant
green text
????

>>106541817
Why aren't you?

>>106540665 (OP)
I picked up a RTX3080 10GB for $200 (presumably stolen). Did I make a good decision?

>>106541855
If it works you made a great decision. Usual going rate is at least $300 for cards that are deshrouded or have broken ports or something.
Still faster in most games than a 5060ti
10gb you're solid for 1080p, 1440p you can see some issues but it's only with settings you probably wouldn't use anyways.

>>106541869
im playing cronos on 3080 and it hovers around 100 fps with dlss at 1440p with the occasional unavoidable traversal stutter

>>106541730
See you in 2 years
And that isn't silicon lottery. SL is when you get a chip that maxes out at 5.5ghz if you're unlucky or 5.8ghz if you win the lottery
>>106541746
There's no way they'll fuck up again now that it's been identified that current balancing is the problem and the fix is just 5 dollars worth of components and PCB changes

>>106541735
How the fuck do you get the GPU out now smart man

>>106541730
>AMD does not have QuickSync
Why do you want this again????

You have to specify a budget when you talk about video editing. What kind of videos (resoution, length)?

video editing itself can scale all the way up to maxed out threadripper builds with 8TB nvme drives since video encoding is very parallel.

>>106541869
>Usual going rate is at least $300 for cards that are deshrouded or have broken ports or something.
It's an Asus TUF Gaming OC in perfect condition. I furmarked it for a few hours and it's been great. I did have to take a friend and a conceal carry to the meet up.

>>106541897
It's soldered in for extra performance

>>106541926
>I did have to take a friend and a conceal carry to the meet up.
Was it a nigger?

>>106541730
>I'm hoping that Intel will release another flagship CPU that beats AMD's flagship not too long before or after the 6090's so I can pick a clear winner.
This is unlikely to happen next year or even in 2027. Temper your expectations.

>Can you conservatively estimate lifespan for the various component types assuming I have optimalized cooling?
Set a minor undervolt to the processors, and they'll run cooler. The factory-fused V/F tables for the processors are slightly overvolted.
The overvolts help some of the worst processor bins run stably out of the box.

just buyed this dinky little case, please validate my purchase
rgbtqia+ fans not included

>>106541943
>Was it a nigger?
How could you tell?

>>106541979
>fans not included
you fucked up mate, unless it's real cheap

>>106541926
>Asus TUF Gaming OC in perfect condition.
That's one of the best & most popular RTX 3080/3090 cards. You did well.

>>106542015
real cheap indeed

>>106541979
When did you realise you were trans?

>>106541923
>Why do you want this again????
Buttery smooth timeline scrubbing in realtime. Lag is annoying. Intel's QuickSync is unmatched at this afaik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video
>You have to specify a budget when you talk about video editing. What kind of videos (resoution, length)?
What is the best I can get? How pricey is that? I just hate the idea of finally putting together a system and learning soon after that I could've bought something else with more capacity, more functionality.

>>106541923
>video editing itself can scale all the way up to maxed out threadripper builds with 8TB nvme drives since video encoding is very parallel.
I was thinking of pairing it with whatever flagship gaming GPU comes out the next generation. It's probably the 6090 I don't think AMD or Intel will beat Nvidia's flagship.

>>106541973
>This is unlikely to happen next year or even in 2027. Temper your expectations.
I see
>Set a minor undervolt to the processors, and they'll run cooler. The factory-fused V/F tables for the processors are slightly overvolted.
The overvolts help some of the worst processor bins run stably out of the box.
I appreciate the advice

Going by 5070ti sizes I dont think anyone is going to release a 5070ti super thats shorter than 280mm. FUCK this means I may have to change the gay little faggy case I wanted to stuff my new build inside of. anyway post your favorite mATX cases.

>>106540665 (OP)
What is going on with these super cards? Is this Nvidia's new marketing tactic? >Release a bunch of cards with obsolete memory sizes
>People buy obsolete cards
>12 months later release a 'super' variant with the correct amount of video memory
>Early adopters who brought less than a 5080 buy yet another 5000 series card.

>>106542190
I'd worry about securing one near MSRP first. GL.

>anyway post your favorite mATX cases.
Silverstone ALTA G1M

>>106542308
people buy gpus that work and are best price performance
they know super variations come at some point but since they dont live in the future that doesnt matter
They dont buy a new gpu, the people buying supers have like shitty amd or nvidia ampere gpu or its someone who needs vram for local llms

>>106542308
24Gb (3GB) GDDR7 chips weren't readily available for a 24GB 5080 launch model.
NVIDIA was prioritizing those VRAM for workstation cards until memory supplies improved.

>Is this Nvidia's new marketing tactic?
NVIDIA's refresh cards are usually a reaction against Radeon's.
9070 non-XT has better performance with 16GB, so the 5070 gets a slightly better-binned chip with 18GB total VRAM.
9070 XT competes very well against the 5070 Ti, so it gets 24GB VRAM
5080 was initially planned with 24GB variants in mind.
https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-again-teases-geforce-rtx-5080-with-24gb-memory

>>106542353
whats a "24gb" chip?

>>106542359
Industry convention to list a single memory chip (IC: Integrated Circuit) capacity in gigabits (Gbit).
JEDEC, the group responsible for memory standards, specifies chip densities in bits.

>>106542394
seems tad confusing when everyone uses 2gb vram chips terminology when talking about vram modules?

>>106542034
From my simple google search of reddit answers, quicksync only had hevc 10 bit 4:2:2 decoding accerleration. The new nvidia rtx 5000 series gpus have that feature nowdays so I don't think it is important to get intel quicksync.

If you want fast scrubbing of the timeline you need: pcie 5.0 nvme and lots of system RAM.

CPU: Intel core 285k
Ram: 128 GB ddr5
Storage: 4TB WD SN8100

Now, depending on what effects you are doing to the video you may need a dedicated gpu.

High quality footage or renders are going to be in a lossless format that has massive bitrates so storage and ram are important.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/pugetbench/results/compare/PugetBench%20for%20Premiere%20Pro/23/CPU/Intel%20Core%20Ultra%209%20285K/AMD%20Ryzen%209%209950X%2016-Core%20Processor/

>>106542353
The 5070ti is flat out better than the 9070xt. The super have nothing to do with that lmao

>>106542456
5070ti barely works it has driver issues

>>106542456
9070 XT falls behind in PT, but you'd obviously go NVIDIA for that.
It's up to the buyer's preference & market prices.

>>106542439
Let's say instead of the 285k I get 9800x3d or 9950x3d. How will that compare when video editing?

>>106542487
You mean the driver's issues that 99% of real users arent experiencing? Lmao!

>>106542489
Way I see it, it's entirely dependent on whether someone is after MAXIMUM FRAAAAMES and shit like the highest level raytracing, frame gen and upscaling shit, or if you want something that's more power efficient for wider setup scalability, still gets the job done quite well for basically anything you throw at it short of RT or games so badly optimized that they need the bestest upscaling ever. Or for people that chug 4K gaming like an energy drink and expect anything but the beefiest of the beef to keep up with no issue, and even then 9070 XT is nothing to scoff at. For the price value, MSRP or scaled up in comparison to the 5070 Ti, it's definitely down to preferences and user builds.
Plus, y'know, less fuss with NVIDIA drivers as of late which are too focused on AI with the 50-series forwards over proper performance upkeep.

>>106542489
I gotta wonder did amd just hope that the industry wouldnt care about path tracing, like gamers would flat out reject the technology, games wouldnt implement it and the future was raster only?

rdna 3 was so far behind nvidia it was strange, or perhaps excused with amd focusing on other stuff and desktop gpus being an afterthought

Is it time to get an upgrade of RAM? Is 16GB no longer sufficient these days?

>>106542557
64 minimum

>>106542557
If 16GB isn't currently bottlenecking your system, I'd stick with it.
I think some games are starting to recommend 32GB.

>>106542552
They're playing catch-up with the next major FSR feature upgrade.
I think AMD didn't expect DLSS Super Resolution to improve as fast as it did.

>>106542609
dlss 1 came out in 2018
dlss 2 in 2020 with 3080 which blew everything else out
amds fsr4 came out in 2025 which is bizarre, thats a very long time to lag behind the competition

>>106542557
If you're on Windows, I'd recommend 32GB+, The OS itself is a memoryhog

>>106542609
>I think some games are starting to recommend 32GB.
UR5 games lmao?

>>106542516
9950 / 9950x3d is slightly slower than the 285k in encoding and adobe benchmarks.
The real advantage would be able to move down the road to a zen 6 cpu with 24 core / 48 threads.

The zen 5 cpus are difficult to get working with 128GB of ram from what I hear. Maybe that has changed with a new agesa version? idk.

I'm also not sure if the igpu can even do basic tasks so you would want to get a dedicated gpu.

like i said though, it depends on what you are editing. If you are editing VR videos or high fps 4k videos, the lossless filesizes are going to be massive (1.4 Gb/s) and eat up ram so you want 128GB of ram.

>>106542629
>amds fsr4 came out in 2025 which is bizarre, thats a very long time to lag behind the competition
Considering the quality jump at the expense of not being as efficient for performance, something is telling me the GPU division just isn't getting quite the push they should be just to really pull the lead out. Doesn't help that FSR4 is barely supported either, forcing you to go all Optiscaler or simply get fucked by FSR3, if you're even playing something that supports that too.

>>106542759
>Doesn't help that FSR4 is barely supported either
Few game devs want to patch their old titles that have passed their peak revenue/support cycle.
But AMD added an FSR4 override option with their latest driver (with a few limitations).
I would worry if FSR4 isn't getting support for new games, but that doesn't seem to be the case..

>>106542516
9800x3d is way too slow because of low thread count
only the 7950x, 9950x or 9950x3d can compete with the 285k

>>106542672
agesa 1.2.0.3f supposedly improved 4 dimm ram support but i havent seen many people saying its easier to run 192gb+ now than before
also 128gb is easy these days because of 64gb dimms becoming available

>>106540665 (OP)
why isnt a flat orientation (cpu socket on mb facing up) the optimal PC desktop orientation.

>eliminates GPU sag
>air flow is arguably better in this orientation (source my ass) but be so for real, air flow/temps isn't a problem in the big 2025
>you're not tipping your PC over, your cat isn't fucking it up
>muh deskspace
>muh rgb art exhibit pc case

>>106543018
No one is brave enough to make a nice sized horizontal case with a solid top panel option. What a comfy footrest that would be.

Should I upgrade from my 3060 8gb to a arc b50 16gb?
It's apparently a bit better? Might not work though with my 150w psu.

Ch260 or 160plus?

>>106543131
what if you bought a better psu

>>106543143
I haven't looked in 5 months but at the time I just went with a 150w picopsu and cheated a bit with an external 220w power brick.
I would absolutely love to upgrade the psu but literally nothing fits in the case, and going with a dual slot Gpu is going to consume the one spot in this case I could potentially fit one. It's the left pc in my pic

>>106543183
what if you bought a bigger case

>>106543189
i like my tranny case thanks

>>106543189
Go fuck yourself retard

>>106543201
I think your case has poor airflow and restricts your potential hardware upgrades which is detrimental to your quality of life.

>>106543218
kek, is that why they call keyboards without numpads troon keyboards?
>take away a useful feature
>people still buy it
makes sense...

>>106540665 (OP)
hello guys :)

>>106543234
My desk is too small for full sized so I'm forced to buy tenkeyless. I don't use the numpad much either way, I got used to using the number row instead when I was forced to use a laptop for a while as a child.

>>106543377
post picture of a pc desk that cant fit a full sized keyboard on it

first timer here
im planing to do a boot test before i put my build into the case because i need to flash a new bios to my mobo
is it ok to run the thing with an aio mounted without thermal paste to get to the bios screen
thank you /g/-sama uwu

>>106543423
bios flash is before cpu install
you need thermal paste or cpu will not work

>>106543393
Before you ask, no, those pills are not HRT. They're my heart meds for my hypertension...

>>106543263
remember to apply thermal paste directly to the AM socket
it needs lubrication, otherwise it's going to scratch the contacts
then go to asrock reddit and share your achievement

>>106543434
>small desk
>puts pc on it
nta, but LMAO

>>106543434
I see
you could rearrange things so the case sits on the floor to get more desk space
you could buy a monitor arm so your 2nd monitor doesnt need laundry basket stack to hold it up

>>106543443
blud spent extra on rgb, now has to keep it on a table

>>106543443
If I hide it below I can't look at it. Which would be fine, but I'd need to rearrange things and organisation is my nemesis.
>>106543472
>laundry basket stack to hold it up
KEK it's supposed to be a plastic drawer cabinet thing. I keep lots of stuff in there. The monitor placement is ideal for discord or something random YouTube video while I do other stuff.
>>106543481
My only RGB part is the case actually, and I keep the lights off most of the time. I turned them on for this photo a few days ago.

>>106543263
>$400
>$8 core CPU
lol, lmao

>>106543263
WTF YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN A 14700K THAT WILL DIE AND A COPY OF BATTLEFIELD AHHHHHHHHHH WTF WHY BUY THINGS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>106543556
14600k mobo would have zero upgrade path so

>>106543569
nobody needs more than a 10400f

>check temperatures
>utility software bumps up the cpu usage
classic

>>106543429
so flash bios>add cpu,ram,ssd>mount aio with thermal paste>add gpu>test>wrangle the whole thing with aio into the case
doubt if pasting, cleaning and repasting would work since i only have 0,8g of it

>>106543587
noctua coolers come with thermal paste
doesnt ur aio also have some?

>>106543576
I just got rid of my 10400f and 1660S for a 9600 and 5070 actually

>>106543611
yeah, that amount came with my arctic

wait... Tctl on AMD reports higher temps than on a die, so fans use higher speeds?

>>106543538
what's wrong with it?
>>106543556
I'm a freetard, I will always give preference to amd since they are frenly.

Would this build work? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yomia/saved/#view=rGVn8d
Budget ~1500 euros, use case 144fps gaming

>>106543731
You're not playing 1440p144 with that GPU. Get a 9070/XT or 5070.

Seems some of the tandem oled 1440p's launch in around 1 month
the reviews indicate they're best user experience and some models are affordable even

>>106543833
Affordable meaning ~?

>>106543881
like 650€ maybe for the cheapest 280hz gigabyte model

> enable expo 6000 profile
> system crashes
yes i love amd

>>106540665 (OP)
As much as i like SAM she doesn't work that well, Incel and AyyMD just architecturally make worse cards
IP is mostly responsible for this however

>>106543898
>4x the price of an entry level 1440p IPS
OLEDniggers are not real people

>>106544399
its brand new tech that has novelty factor and the "competitive monitor right now" factor which you pay premium for
you can pay very little for a monitor it doesnt mean you should
a rule of thumb would be paying as much as you did for the gpu, if you spend 2k € on a pc but you cant budget for oled monitor you're making poor financial decisions

>>106541491
>Have a 9950x3d
>RTX 3080
>Use gamemoderun to pin my games only to the x3d ccd, effectively turning it into a 9800x3d
>100+ fps everywhere with maxed out settings
Life is good

>>106541491
I'm this close to giving my brother my spare 5090 due to no takers on the 2nd hand market and he'll have to run it on his 9900ks, upgrading from a 3080
The bottleneck will be insane :^)

>>106543914
If only there was a thing called motherboard-memory compatibility tables.

The 5090 was 15% off, I had to do it.
They're the same size, but the asus is almost twice as heavy. Probably will have better temps in short bursts.

>>106544691
youd think that size gpus have a gpu support built in

"O-Oni-san.. W-what are you doing..?"

>>106544693
They should. They usually ship one with it though. This case came with an amazing one, it should be a standard for all cases.

if i'm rebuilding in a lian li a3 and upgrading PSU because mine is almost 8 year old, should I go SFX or just a shorter ATX? getting a 50-series at some point so would like to avoid a house fire

https://newsroom.arm.com/blog/arm-c1-cpu-cluster-on-device-ai-performance

>New Armv9.3 CPU cluster

ARM WON

x86 IS KILL

>>106544691
switch it to the quiet bios before using it since the rear fan is literal garbage

>>106544767
>11% more efficient youtube
>10% faster video scroller
>12% more efficient instagram

Looking for a good AM5 motherboard to be used for 24/7 PC homeserver operation. I need the following features:
- At least 2 PCIe x8 or x16 gen 4 or 5 ports working at full speed to CPU.
- At least 1-2 m.2 slots for SSDs
- At least 128 GB DDR5 RAM (ECC or non-ECC)

For the RAM I don't understand the concept of dual channel. I think it's usually advised to put DIMMs in half the slots and not put an uneven number of DIMMs. But what if I want to have 192 GB RAM, I would have to put 6*32 and populate all 6 slots for example. Will I get bad performance from that ?

>>106544853
>2 x16 on CPU lanes gen 5
threadripper? even X870E only has 1x16 lane to CPU

>>106540914
>sisters
Try saying that out loud. Try saying that retarded shit out loud, you fucking moron, so you can realize how dumb you sound.

>>106538924
>how do i stop windows 11 form automatically restarting for updates?
if it's anything like windows 10, then you start by googling this question, and then follow whichever guide you find that tells you which obscure settings to turn off
I think it'll end up being 2 or 3 things in "services" that you just have to disable

>>106544785
I use FanControl, calibrating them all. Sounds fine.

>>106543263
oh hey
mine just came yesterday, too

Alright fellas I've been asked to put together a parts list for a consolefag friend of mine looking to get into PC gaymin, but I could use some help myself since I've only done this once before.
He's a burger and the budget is $3000. However, there's a non-zero chance he gets filtered by the "complexity" of PC gaming (he is completely tech illiterate, to the point where operating a file manager without guidance intimidates him) so I want to keep this a bit cheaper just in case he figures out PC isn't for him. Maybe more like $1500-2000 or so.
I think keeping the OS and games separate is a good idea just in case he fucks something up, that way he can reinstall Windows without nuking his games library in the process. I was thinking a 500GB SSD for the OS at first but looking at prices it seems like you may as well just get a 1TB for nearly the same price. And then either a 2TB or a 4TB SSD for his vidya, still waiting to hear from him regarding how much space he reckons he'll need. I've just picked a 4TB one for now.
Here's what I have right now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X8qkNz
Anything turbo retarded picks that stand out? The PSU might be a bit overkill, but I figure if he ever wants to upgrade it's better to just swap out the GPU instead of having to redo all the power cables and swapping in a more powerful PSU. He's not gonna be building this thing himself after all so the simpler the better. For the GPU I just went with what I have myself since it's been good in my experience. No qualms about doing a 5070 Ti instead though. Brandwarring is gay and the guy who is going to be using this box doesn't even know what they are anyway.

>>106543263
Behold, the modern day 2600k.

Half of you niggas are paid actors on AMD payroll. Same with niggas on Reddit and other websites. There's no way so many people are shilling the 9070XT when the entire AMD 9xxx lineup has less market share than the 4060

>>106545761
Less market share than the low volume rtx5090 even

>>106545761
it's actually a good card and people are buying it because they're fed uup of nvidia over charging

>>106545904
I'm never going back to AMD after owning an R7 260 and an RX 570. They can stuff their shitty drivers up their ass

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/borderlands-4-dying-light-the-beast-geforce-game-ready-driver/

UPDATE NOW

Ok, why are Asrock motherboards frying X3Ds and even standard AM5 CPUs lately?

Why hasn't it been fixed yet?

>>106545667
I would get an SN7100 4 or 2TB drive for games instead of the Crucial P3.
It's better, and your friend wouldn't need two separate SSD utility apps.
Tell your friend to ask the builder to update his SSD firmware.
The Sandisk Dashboard is the app for WD/Sandisk SSDs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dd88TW/western-digital-wd_black-sn7100-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t4x0e-00cja0

There are better 9070 XT deals than the Hellhound atm, like Sapphire Pulse or XFX Swift.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bvjv6h/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-11348-03-20g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T7RnTW/xfx-swift-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-97tswf3b9

Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT is a high-end model, currently discounted to $750, but it has the 12V-2x6 power connector that may not be newbie-friendly to manage.

>>106545944
The boards have been slowly cooking the CPUs with the older drivers.

Was the ASUS x870e hero ever officially revised? There were some claims it would receive a new q release slim but some people get even months later the old ones despite the number indicating more recent manufacturing. The apex and extreme boards have the new one and seemingly the BTF version as well.

>>106545957
Aight, thanks for the help Anon. Swapped out the drive and selected a Sapphire Pulse card instead. I'll be sure to mention the firmware update too.

>>106546062
officially? no. its one of those silent revisions done by asus to prevent existing owners from being mad or rmaing their old boards for the new ones
x870e hero boards in the supply channel can either be old stock with the flawed design or new stock with the fixed q release slim

>>106546101
The thing is I cannot find anyone that actually seems to have a revised x870e at least in the west. The original picture of the revised q release slim was from the apex board.

>ktc m27p6 sold out on european amazon
NYOOOOO WHY DIDN'T I GET MY SALARY EARLIER

>>106546062
>>106546101
In reality it doesn't matter.
The damage is cosmetic only
It becomes visible after a few dozen gpu removals/insertions
No one is forcing you to use the q release system, just push down the latch


Still can't wrap my head, why such a nothingburger is still discussed

>>106545761
a lot of nvidiot hardware comes in prebuilts while AMD is the DIY-er choice, people who know what tf they're doing. but not knowing this is expected from nvlets

>>106546159
>just push down the latch
If you have a somewhat recent GPU the latch is blocked. It usually shouldn't matter but I was simply curious if they ever updated the hero in the west or only did it for their new boards

>>106546151
How do dual mode screens work? Is it the perfect ratio between 4k and 1080p? As in 4 "4k" pixels group up to act as 1 "1080p" pixel?

Day15 FAFO'ing with G80SD - TV Pill on sale Cope Edition

>>106538501
>>106538628
>It has the same subpixels as your QD-OLED monitor, the texts will look worse on a larger screen.
True but I could put it further away and also get more HDR Brightness

>>106546398
Also regarding S90D
I never saw any glossy qdoled tv in the stores, they never have a fucking s90d on demo, the just demo the s95d/f but I saw the older s95c because it is glossy
and sure it might be better actually, it usually does

>>106540665 (OP)
Holy fucking cable management you realize cable combs exist for a reason you absolute spastic go buy some faggot

>>106546398
>I'm only getting a G7
will I regret my choice forever?

>>106546456
what G7? samsung g7? a VA?
samsung has shit quality in general on monitors and tv but probably even worse on monitors I guess
so will you? idk
depends

Super Series announced at CES 2026

No Xmas release

IT'S OVER

>>106546486
>IT'S OVER
JBAFN (just buy a fifty ninety)

>>106546486
>Announcement Jan 2026
>Release some time later
>Availability in my cunt months later
>Prices higher than non-supers for months
>this time next year, prices are normal
>BRO don't waste your money on a 5070Super bro just wait 5 months for the 6070 with 24GB VRAM!
Yeah, I'm glad I pulled the trigger last month and got a 5070. No regrets. Fuck waiting, there's always something new coming up! I would never escape that FOMO cycle if I didn't just go for it. My old rig was way overdue anyways.

>>106546224
But GPUs have been huge for the past 5+ years, and had metal backplates for 10+ years now. How did you remove your GPU from yesterdays mobo?

>>106546147
I don't think they truly fixed it since the unlatching mechanism is a small metal tab that pushes the gpu pcb out and is what causes damage over time. The revised pcie slot is just minor placebo while the true cause still remains.

>>106546619
I still could reach the latch on my 1080ti, barely.

>>106546147
Try looking for an x870e hero with the right part number in a brick and mortar store

>everything delivered but the fucking cooler
bros why is amazon like this and send 3 different couriers to fulfil one order

Anecdotally I just updated to Windows 25H2 and my AMD PC now feels a lot smoother. Just moving the mouse and Windows around feels like no lag unlike before.

>nvidia's solution to desktop flickering was to increase the power state to p2 in certain multi monitor configs
lol
LMAO
it still happens btw, just not as often. there's something wrong with those gddr7 memory chips in the 50 series

S90D 65" qdoled for 1200€
or
C4 77" for 1650€

>>106546786
there is literally no difference between 24h2 and 25h2 as it was an enablement package update (as in, both 24h2 and 25h2 are the exact same and the only "differences" are essentially boolean true/false values determining which new features you get) everything under the hood is the exact same

>>106545761
Shut the fuck up kike people buy amd because they are sick and tired of being ripped off by jews nobody cares about gaytracing or Goyforce RTX Njudea should be liquidated and jensen dropped to the bottom of the sea with a millstone attached to his neck now fuck off from whatever synagogue you came from rabbi

>>106546791
its not the memory chips themselves but their new memory controller. Every time some IHV makes a new memory controller shit is wonky. Look at amd Ryzen memory controller for ages or 7000 series chiplets mcds.

>>106546791
does this only happen with mismatched resolutions and refresh rates? i've wanted multimonitor setup but was told it's a pain in the arse if you have different monitors

>>106546836
No. It is worse on DP 1.4 and just less likely to happen with HDMI 2.1 though

>>106546806
I find that BS because there would be no reason for two different builds if they're exactly the same

>>106546791
>multi monitor configs
>constant issues due to varying dog shit
It's over, single monitor won, I'm taking the giant tv pill and exiting this nightmare

>>106546854
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/windows11/what-is-an-enablement-package/4188395

This is how windows "updates" your computers without requiring a restart now. You basically have all of the new features they will roll out over the coming months but they won't enable them right away. Is it retarded? Yes? Is there anything you can do about it? No.

any news on when the 5080supers are releasing?
is a non super still good enough?

t 3080 10g

>>106546879
Windows tells normies what they want to hear but everything is different under the hood. LTSC iot is not the same as pro or home despite being the same 24h2.

>>106546865
>>106546791
It goes deeper. Nvidia has MPO issues for ages now. Proper MPO usage allows the GPU to idle since the display controller is doing the work instead of the memory controller or shader units. AMD fixed this with their "radiant display engine" but they have their own issues like RDNA2 and below being fucked.

>>106546827
i believe this actually. one major new "feature" of the 50 series is that nvidia has split the core voltage and memory voltage and they control them independent of each other. i figured this would fix a lot of previous generation issues with desktop power usage but it actually just made everything worse

>>106546159
>The damage is cosmetic only
That's enough to get a warranty denied
Kinda why it's a big deal

>>106546827
yeah, a lot of hardware issues can be traced back to buggy power saving states even on things like NICs dropping packets or nvidia gpus having bad dpc latency

>>106546909
>AMD fixed this
No, they haven't. MPO bugs affect Radeon cards as well, including their new RX 9000 cards.
This post >>106546791 is also just regurgitating a workaround that existed even before Blackwell GPUs or GDDR7 chips existed.

>>106546880
5080 makes no sense at all since its so close to the 5070ti but costs much more

>>106546986
it has nothing to do with MPO

>>106546909
>AMD

>>106546909
>the bug is fixed but only on our new hardware teehee
i'm so sick of this bros
why does microcode even exist if they cant use it to patch bugs

>>106546996
I was addressing two separate replies in one post, you dimwit.

>>106546880
The rumor mill is now saying its coming in January next year lmao

I'm currently making a general use programming / some light gaming build. Decided to go for an APU. Does this check all the boxes? Is there any way I can perhaps save a little more money without compromising on performance? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPYcXR

>>106546759
They don't seem to sell those here. All stores I checked now who list the number have the old one. Might be a China exclusive change.

In what scenario(s) would one need to disable MPO?

>>106547013
He's spreading lies & FUD because he's upset NVIDIA's releasing new drivers.
MPO bugs can cause instabilities on RX 7000 & 9000 cards.
The creator of the tool to disable Windows MPO registry is a Radeon card owner.
https://github.com/RedDot-3ND7355/MPO-GPU-FIX
https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1lb521v/disabling_mpo_literally_saved_my_9070_xt/

Conclusion: 2026 as the Turning Point

The second half of 2026 will mark a pivotal clash between AMD and Intel.

AMD Zen 6: Power-efficient, upgrade-friendly, built on advanced TSMC nodes.
Intel Nova Lake: Bold new design, extreme multi-core scaling, but costly platform shift.
Arrow Lake Refresh serves as a stopgap, while the real battle will be fought between Zen 6 and Nova Lake. For users, this means exciting choices ahead in desktop, workstation, and data center computing.

The question is clear: Will efficiency and platform stability win, or will raw core power and architectural reinvention dominate?

>>106547093
>800$ for an APU build
that seems crazy, something like this would seem far better in my opinion: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXfHHW

>>106547163
Amd is already barely hanging onto the MT crown against 8+16 core intel. By only increasing core count by 50% while intel increases theirs by more than 2x, they will lose big time to intel's 2*(8+16)+4 novalake processor

>>106547137
Could just be that your stores are holding onto old stock since most people buy b850s

>>106547215
Zen 6 is promising a lot of increased cores count

>the gync multi monitor taskbar bug is still a thing in september 2025
lol

>>106547258
and its not enough

>>106547285
what the fuck is that

>>106547291
if you
1. use displayport for your main monitor
2. have multiple monitors
gsync will randomly not work. the solution? unchecking "show my taskbar on all displays" LMAO

>>106547235
Maybe, the asus shop itself lists the old number as well here but since the revision isnt official it doesn't surprise me. I have mine now already installed with the old q-release-slim so I was only checking if those are available here now but doesn't seem to be the case.

>>106547307
the fix seems like a bandaid fix anyway. the offending part (metal spring tab) hasn't been changed even on the revised version
the true fix will only be found on their next gen boards, and fingers crossed they don't fuck up other parts of the board like they normally do

>>106547298
Windows issue, just like MPO.
Funny how changing a Windows setting fixes it.

>>106547298
who's the blame, microsoft or novideo?

>>106546880
no reason to upgrade from a 3080 yet

>>106547367
it started in 24h2 so microsoft probably

>>106547367
Obviously Microsoft. If it were caused by NVIDIA, there would be an older driver version to fall back on.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/nvidia-app/129/558259/

https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsinsiders/comments/1hae0qc/gsync_still_buggy_with_multi_monitor/ i posted about this 9 months ago btw

>>106547423
Yes, but Radeon schizoes want to bring it up today because NVIDIA released new display drivers.

>>106547340
I'd honestly just prefer a reachable button to unlock the GPU. It's a rather bothersome gimmick as it's hard to tell when the GPU is truly unlocked. I removed my current GPU twice or thrice so far but didn't see any damage but I have no need anymore in the near future to do so. It will last till AM6 is matured as other anons pointed out already it's cosmetically only and in worst case chipping off a bit of the PCIe connector only. It would reduce the resell value but I'm the kind of person who builds a whole new PC instead of upgrading and then uses the old one as backup.

>>106547423
w11 can't even put the taskbar on the sides, any problems with it lie with windows jeet ass software

well on the bright side there was a new change in what will be 26h2 i think that improves MPO for multi monitor configs

naturally it's a "gradually rolling out" feature so nobody even knows if they have it yet although i asked a microsoft employee how to know if you have it and this was their answer

"They can use Game Bar to monitor the FPS of their app on the non-primary, high refresh rate, screen. It should go above the primary monitor's refresh rate now even when it's being composed."

I hope it fixes all the shit wrong with MPO

>>106542832
If I remember correctly 285k has 24 cores 24 and threads while the 9950x3d has 12 cores and 36 threads. What difference does this make? I don't really know much about cores and thread counts please explain.

>>106547518
currently if you are playing a game on a "composed flip" screen, aka a screen that is not your primary monitor, it is still limited by the max refresh rate of your primary monitor. say i have a 4k 240hz oled as my second monitor and a 4k 160hz ips as my main. i move the game from my main to the oled. the max fps will still be 160hz. with this change it should go up to 240hz without changing the primary monitor (in theory).

>>106547486
>cant move around taskbar
>cant move taskbar to second monitor to see the icon bar or mirror the icon bar to second monitor
>cant move notifications to second monitor (same on W10)
>cant disable dynamic task length based on title
Some time ago w11 had the issue that if you switched the language after installation you had a mix of the original language of the installation medium and the selected one. The Recommended section in the start menu is also a react native app.

>>106547165
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXfHHW
The reason I chose an APU was because I don't care too much about graphics. The only game I play is Minecraft every now and then with my friends. I'll be daily driving Gentoo, too. I considered going with the Ryzen 5 8600G, but decided to upgrade and get the extra cores because I do lots of multi-tasking (IntelliJ, Docker, local hosting some servers for short periods of time, databases, etc.)
>that seems crazy
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Felt like a little much for an APU build, but I did opt to go for higher quality stuff. I was originally going to go for the ASRock motherboard, but then I read about the CPU degradation issues. So I looked into other options and found the Gigabyte B650M Gaming Plus Wifi, but read reviews of shitty bluetooth/wifi performance and driver issues. So I changed it to the B850M Eagle, which had better reviews and not many issues for $30 more.

>>106547548
>>cant move taskbar to second monitor to see the icon bar or mirror the icon bar to second monitor
do you mean the sound wifi settings and so on?

>>106547583
the system tray icons at the bottom right. I think there are custom tools that for the UI but I don't want to bother with those.

>>106547625
>custom tools
windhawk. you need it to keep yourself sane on windows 11

>>106547647
It's absurd that you have to use third party tools for features that used to exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABNBYGWqwQ

OUR GUY IS BACK

guys is your ssd also bigger than a human who is bigger than an elephant?

>>106547828
> avg human lifespan is 82y
Maybe in europe/USA/Japan only, lmao.

>>106547909
>Maybe in europe/USA/Japan only, lmao.
No, that's right. It said human.

>>106547909
this is such a weird post and then i remember that no, it's normal now. the ESLs and third world streetshitters think they own this place now

>>106547909
you don't live in a country with 80+ expected lifespan??

>>106547937
they really do. taking a dump on india will rile up some jeets

>>106547909
what is life expectancy of brazil?

>>106548006
>pic
grim.

>>106547976
my favorite game to play is going on google streetview, dropping the little man in a random place in India, and trying to find an area with 0 trash within the 360 camera view. I have yet to succeed.

On the subject of the tv pill
LG apparently released a "C5 Pro" aka C5E that is supposed the C5 series but with higher brightness
Also comes in the 42" version

now every part of my PC that I ordered has arrived
except for the SSD for my OS
lol

>>106548109
not worth it with all the banding issues and dithering issues the LG oled tv's have now. i was seriously going to pick one up this coming weekend but then i found out about the issues and it seems to be dealbreaker. the avsforums are not happy with the G5.

>>106548243
I'm beyond tilted. I cleared my entire day to put this shit together and now it's a day down the fucking toilet

>>106548300
sucks living in pajeetistan i guess

>>106548322
uk, so you're not wrong lmao. i've literally never had "next working day" deliveries delayed like this. stuff that come from overseas can be delayed, but that's to be expected

>>106548285
The dithering lines look like ass from a yt video on 55" G5 like I posted before
Maybe less perceivable on 42" but yeah
Maybe I should get a s90d 65"

>Buy a new mouse because the one I'm using had some double-clicking issues in the past
>New one arrives today
>My old mouse is perfectly fine now

>>106548300
take a nap

>>106548607
you now have a backup in case your old one breaks and they stop manufacturing the model

>spending thousands of dollars to play political commentaries disguised as games made in UE5
extremely embarrassing

>>106548675
The only game that comes to mind is the MGS 3 remake. What other games did you mean anon?

>>106548675
>Spending thousands of dollars to play 25 year old 25 fps sprite rendered games

>>106546748
I've been using a wooden chopstick ever since I had a 970

>>106548699
Kingdom come 2
oblivion remake
call of duty black ops 6
clair obscur
the new assassins creed

GeForce xisters why are we getting raped in mgs delta?? I thought our cards were supposed to always win in UE5?!

>>106544751
What 50 series specifically? My 5070 runs quiet and cool. Just finished a Lian A3 build and its got so much airflow temps aren't an issue. ATX PSU fit just fine

>>106548819
>DEI slop

>>106548767
kingdom come 2 wasn't made in UE5 thoughbeit, nor black cocks 6/ass creed

>>106548819
>4080 still undefeated
So this is the power of Radeon...

>>106548836
they still prominently feature DEI and you're spending thousands of dollars to consume the DEI

>>106548819
Say what you want about Nvidia but at least they're improving performance gen on gen instead of going backwards

Erm what the flip?! Even in the UE5 game madden by the company that created the engine we are losing xisters. Where the fuck is the GeForce Unreal Engine Advantage?!?!

>>106548908
>10fps for 80W
Kek

>>106548908
>shooting gun vs not shooting gun
why arent you comparing the same things?

>>106548819
Nicoposter shitposting about things he can't afford.

>>106548875
>improving performance gen on gen
9070 XT is a 7800 XT successor which it is 29.5% faster than. 5070 ti is only 13.2% faster than 4070 ti here lmao

>>106547526
can someone please explain

>>106548988
And yet it's still another midrange card that's slower than the 7900xtx. Another massive disappointment kekw

Radeon sisters why are we locked out of the future of gayming? Is it true we're just getting the gaystations scraps?

>>106548926
Most 9070 XT can be undervolted to 250 watts and same performance

>>106548988
>here
A game that's locked to 60 FPS default (in-game settings) without modifying the config file.
The devs only cared about hitting 60 FPS.

>>106549014
Kill yourself

>>106549059
>still cant beat last gen nvidia

>>106549071
5070 losing to rdna 3 card in rt kys

>>106548541
i was looking at the S95F but while samsung tv's are good, they aren't as nice as LG in a few areas which matter to me like the magic remote (not really a big deal but by far the best remote in the market) or dolby vision support (i use 3rd party streaming sources rather than pay for disney, amazon etc and a lot of the files are dolby vision HDR which flat out isn't supported on samsung and you end up getting a broken washed out stream)

there are some insane deals on s95f's right now too for massive savings (can sell this soundbar off for a few hundred) so it's a shame. if samsung supported dolby vision they'd be my go-to brand because of qd-oled.

>>106548994
AMD has 16 core running two threads of work simultaneously. The second thread that's run on each core is slower than the first, increasing overall performance by about 30-40% dependant on workload.
Intel has 8 cores and 16 slower cores each running a single thread of work. Each thread has full performance here but intel has fewer threads.
In most benchmarks, the 9950x3d leads by a couple percent while in some, the 285k is faster so they're effectively about the same. Except in gaming where the 9950x3d is much faster.

>2024 goty
>RDNA basically unusable
Pathetic
>>106549059
Post path tracing results along with a comparison of what is lost without ray reconstruction

>>106549110
thanks

>>106549059
>cherrypicked benchmarks
Kekw

>>106549121
>Post blah blah bl-ACK!!
Post your rotting infected axe wound first and I'll consider it.

This is really gay guys

>>106549165
>gay guys
mmmfmmmfffmmfmfgmfmfmfff moarr

>>106549083
>Radeon's largest last-gen chip is beating NVIDIA's cut-down, third-best Blackwell GPU in RT.
That isn't the win you think it is, Navi 31 is almost 2x larger than the full GB205,
7900 XT & XTX's GCD is larger than the 5070's entire chip.

>>106549165
Nothing is gayer than owning an Nvidia GeForce RTX card

>>106540665 (OP)
I want to min/max single threaded performance on a budget:
>intel 12700k [same TDP as 12600k but more cores]
>disable E-cores
>disable 2x P-cores to reduce thermal load
>put a giant-ass cooler on the chip
>overclock it as high as possible
would this even work or should I just get a 12600k instead?

The store I bought my RTX 5070 from will give me a Borderlands 4 code next week. Neat!

>>106549208
Nicotroon is literally wetting his panties over beating a trash binned gb203 GPU after using 33% more power
He's not very smart

>>106549208
>When radeon wins a benchmark it does count because xyzkkyeetuinhftuu!!!
>When nvidia wins in a sponsored path tracing game that they bribed the devs nonstop spam of the chart forever and ever.

Does anyone have a recommendation for an external USB CD Drive? Only plug and play without any crappy software.

>>106549156
Path tracing is unironically the future, those are the only benchmarks that actually matter. Cope and seethe
I would post more but literally no one bothers even trying it on amd because a 9070xt is like 60%+ slower than a 5070 in the examples that are actually heavy

>super confirmed to not reelase this year which means nvidia thinks redstone will be shit in october
>thread resident amdschizo goes into a melty

This reminds me of the good 'ole days when Radeon card owners were cheering their victory over a GTX 1060.
They always have to punch below their weight.
This is the history of Radeon.

>>106549327
He just wants to get this thread past the bump limit to post his diarrhea of an OP.

>>106549327
what's redstone? amd are releasing a new gpu lineup already?

>>106549361
Feature upgrade for RT/PT & frame generation.

>>106549361
It's operation playing catchup where they're introducing features like ray reconstruction so that they can be on the same level (not really) as nvidia

>>106549361
is supposed to be ray reconstruction and machine learning frame generation, right now AMD pathtraced and raytracing looks terrible outside of lumen software and hardware because it cant denoise any lighting, (lumen is mostly indirect lighting and hardware lumen just adds an extra bounce) also their framegen has no temporal data (like nvidia smooth motion or loseless scaling) as its a driver level frame gen solution

>>106549341
>1440p charts cherry picked for 60 class cards comparison because the numbers are the most favorable to nvidia
>Lying that Polaris wasn't a 1060 competitor
480 was cheaper than 1060 and offered the same performance in dx11 and better in dx12. Nvidia even lowered the price of 1060 because they felt threatened by it. Kill yourself shill.

Redstone won't magically fix a 9070xt being below 30fps in anything that isn't Alan Wake 2.

>>106549341
That was the generation they admitted defeat by branding their x80 card as an Nvidia x60 competitor
They've never recovered from that since

>>106549397
Radeon duking it out against NVIDIA's 5th best card of its time isn't some heroic underdog shit you're portraying.
They didn't even need to release the 8GB variant of the 1060 because the 6/3GBs were selling well.
Stay mad.

>AMD still hasn't released a gpu as good as the fury and Vega 64
How did this happen?

>>106549432
It's gonna be interesting because their cards cant really do real path tracing only fake lumen atthe moment i'm really wondering what the fuck the update will do because any denoiser cost fps

>>106549397
>1440p charts cherry picked
Nothing changes @ 1080p.

>>106549397
>480 was cheaper than 1060 and offered the same performance in dx11 and better in dx12.
nigga what? amd had to rebrand and overclock it and call it the 580 for it to finally beat the 1060 which was faster for the lifetime of the cards. the launch was heavily criticised because the 1060 was like 15% faster because of shit amd drivers.

>>106549474
I guess in Cyberpunk the 9070xt is within 10% of a 5070 with pt, that would be playable with ray reconstruction at like 720p internal
But fun fact : On amd cards pt isn't the same as pt with Nvidia gpus, it's automatically cut back with no way to change it. Only reason the 9070/xt are able to get controller friendly framerates

>>106549510
>>106549510
>>106549510

>>106547678
>Normie backwards striving "creators intent" TV slopper
Into the garbage he goes

>>106549526
The things is that performance is not real, most of the 9070 XT PT performance comes down to the card actually not being able to render or denosie lighting properly while nvidia cards have to denoise it which tanks your fps.

>>106549510
>>106549510
>>106549510

>>106549093
LGs TV os is slow compared to samsung, idk why
their remote was larger and clunkier, now they fixed it
magic meme or not, idk
it's still kinda laggy however
>big savings!
nah it has not dipped hard, it will go down to 1400£ in direct bong conversion here on BF for the 55"

better brightness, 165hz, but one connect box and matte

I might return monitor and cop a S90D instead at this point

I've seen the s95f irl and Idk I think I prefer QD over WOLED on TVs always I mean the G5 did not look bad either, idk, I could not run some HDR Demo material without the wifi buffering in the store

wait until BF for buying that one

>>106549385
>>106549557
post proof or kys

>>106549650
AMD literally doesn't have a way to actually denoise path tracing. This is just a hard fact. In cyberpunk reflections and specifically lighting inside of reflections is somehow further gimped, I guess that could also be a denoising type issue somehow but I don't really see how that would actually work.
Go watch comparisons of a 9070xt vs 5070ti or something and look closely on the section comparing pt results (assuming it's not just like "stock" footage they're using)
Even without rr being used on the nvidia card there's a difference

>>106550126
Ray regeneration (ray reconstruction) is being added with Redstone.

>>106550393
Okay and if it actually works you still have the issue of there not being a single amd card powerful enough to actually do pt or just heavy rt in a modern release.
Redstone is for the next gen/playstation, Not the 9070/xt

>>106550393
>>106550501
And just to make it clear, even without the denoising amd cards in games with pt they either :
A - Don't render correctly (making them run faster)
or
B - Are slow enough not even upscaling will save the experience.
I guess the exception would be quake 2, but that's quake 2. And even then that looks like shit until you're at like 4k minimum