Thread 106546378

Security is an anti-feature.

>>106546378 (OP)
>most secure

>>106546667
>high Sierra

rope yourself, you are fucking useless

>>106546682
>rope yourself, you are fucking useless
>most secure

>>106546667
>2017
>>106546678
>2021

>mediaanalysisd

Who needs security when your computer spies on you natively with client side scanning?

>>106546851
https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/21/tests-confirm-macos-finder-isnt-scanning-for-csam-images/amp/
retard. mediaanalysisd is for running OCR and object detection for tagging image files. it's completely offline and it's how I can find the image on the OP by searching 'computer' in the Photos application

>>106546904
>this technology that can totally be used to spy on you at the flip of a switch won't be used in such a fashion - we promise!

>>106547126
meanwhile google uploads your real time location to their servers 24/7 and calls the cops on you when you send a picture of your daughter to a doctor for evaluation, and microsoft wants to take a screenshot of your screen every few seconds.
but what you have a problem with is the _possibility_ of apple misusing a feature in the future

>only company in the world with a confirmed hardware backdoor on their m silicon
>most secure
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/exploit-used-in-mass-iphone-infection-campaign-targeted-secret-hardware-feature

>>106547183
>lying on the internet for attention
Who hurt you?

>>106547204
what part of it is a lie, you shill?
go to your google account right now and check "your timeline on google maps"
it'll show all the places you went to day by day

>>106546397
tsmt, in 9 out of 10 cases, security is just an excuse to lock us in someone's ecosystem.

>>106547588
hello saar, thenk you very much for painting of me

>>106546378 (OP)
Google's Tensor in Pixels had that for years.

>>106548886
it's an earlier, less secure spec and it's not enabled or used by android anyway

>Trust me guys, the company that is selling me this operating system said it was the most secure.
>I mean they didn't use independent metrics or anything actually scientific to measure that, but they told me it was secure
There is no way to know what operating system is the most secure because that would require complete omniscient of all vulnerabilities and their severity. Which no one has. If you like Apple you like Apple, but don't pretend they have the best security.

>>106549392
>>I mean they didn't use independent metrics or anything actually scientific to measure that, but they told me it was secure
what a strange attempt at an argument
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/certifications/apc3cea61877b/web
also if you READ the linked blog post you'll see they explain what was implemented, how it works and why it works, there's no "trust me" involved

>>106549500
>Look at muh certs
That's neat. I am sure they can show them to their customers when they get hacked and talk about how it should have been impossible because the certs said it wasn't allowed. Them taking measures to prevent vulnerabilities doesn't make them infallible and it doesn't even make them less fallible than the other operating systems pointing at their certs just makes you look dumb.

>>106549653
except it isn't just certs, it's independent audits, you fucking gorilla nigger
>Them taking measures to prevent vulnerabilities doesn't make them infallible
so it's better not to do anything at all just because there's always a chance to find a new vulnerability? wow anon, you're so smart!
>and it doesn't even make them less fallible than the other operating systems
that don't implement the same precautions and security features? so by your definition windows xp is exactly as secure as windows 11 is because security features and hardening make no difference... I see, so this is the power of a /g/ poster...

>>106547588
we don't post selfies here newfriend

>>106546851
Learn some internals nigger, acting big but you know horse shit.

>>106549766
>Independent audit
Name a modern OS that doesn't have independent audits
>But muh meme OS
Not including a BSD or some rust hobbyist OS.
>Better not to do anything
I didn't say that. My point was that their audits don't prove they are the most secure OS and that you couldn't know that without knowing all vulnerabilities and their severity.
>Mentioning XP
I don't know what your talking about I can hack classic macos easily anon. Apple security sucks because a deprecated OS is insecure. What a retarded point that is neither here nor there. The OS that are competing with modern macos are all updated regularly. Modern Apple isn't the only company that kept moving forward past the 90s.

>>106549910
try again when you learn how to read

>>106549925
I accept your concession.

>>106547283
>go to your google account right now and check "your timeline on google maps"
*turns it off*
checkmate retard

>>106549946
keep fighting points you made up entirely inside your empty head. I didn't even know it was possible to misinterpret such a simple post like the one you were responding to, good job.
there's nothing in your post that challenges any of the points I made or that make any sense in the first place

>>106549969
I addressed your points, maybe you should reread my post.

>>106549336
>and it's not enabled or used by android anyway
GrapheneOS says hello

>>106550012
except you didn't. first you were claiming it isn't actually secure because there's no formal and external verification, and when faced with the fact that there actually is one, you moved the goal post in a way that not even you seem to know what point you're trying to make anymore.
and you completely misunderstood the windows xp part, embarrassing really. you're an illiterate retard and made me lose all will to try to argue with you in good faith

>>106550073
>No formal external verification
To confirm it is the most secure OS. You just said there is external verification of security which is not the same thing and all other major OS do this as well so its not unique to macos.
>Moved the goal post.
No you can look at my original post. The entire argument was about knowing which OS is most secure which I said you had no way of knowing.
>Misunderstood the windows XP part
Bringing windows XP up is neither here nor there.
>muh security features
A lot of XP problems were related to memory and hardware than security features.

>>106550167
>To confirm it is the most secure OS
>>I mean they didn't use independent metrics or anything actually scientific to measure that, but they told me it was secure
>they told me it was secure
why do you lie
and weird that what you're hung up on is the bait text on the OP and not the actual blog post being discussed.
>A lot of XP problems were related to memory and hardware than security features.
holy shit, one cannot simply be so illiterate

>>106550252
>Why do you lie
What a cope.
>Op makes a claim
>he sites a blog to support the claim
>I go after the claim
>Somehow this is moving the goal post.
You are taking one sentence out of context and acting like that was my entire claim. If you read it within context it was clear I was talking about the claim of being the most secure operating system. You know for someone who talk about being illiterate you sure do have some bad reading comprehension.

>>106546378 (OP)
you want me to believe a company that sells a 1000$ monitor stand takes their costumers data protection seriously? lmao

>>106550327
whatever helps you sleep at night. feel free to consider you won and accept your concussion or whatever, it's not worth to drag this pointless discussion any further and we should both kill ourselves

>>106546378 (OP)
OH NO NO NO NO

>>106546378 (OP)
OpenBASED is more secure than FagOS.

>>106552376
good thing for the half dozen people that use it

>>106552315
based

>>106546378 (OP)
>pegasus spyware
kys

>>106546378 (OP)
>>106552315
based

>>106546397
Not entirely incorrect seeing how people view features as adding convenience.
If you look at security focused projects like secureblue for example, you'll see how their descriptions, security additions, etc end up disabling a lot of functionality or neutering/gimping something in the operating system.
It's the price you pay.

>>106546378 (OP)
not secure until they have a security butt plug

Isn't this just more anti-repair nonsense?

>>106546378 (OP)
how much will this slowdown older devices without hardware MIE?

>>106546378 (OP)
You mean dead end

>>106546378 (OP)
As a cybersecurity professional, I say fuck security. No one cares about that shit. The WatchOS 26 release candidate broke my weather conditions. Conveniently, every weather function works in the Modular Compact Watch face EXCEPT mine. WHAT THE FUCK? IT WORKED IN THE UNSTABLE BETA VERSIONS JUST FINE! FIX MY WEATHER TIM APPLE!

>>106554161
Tim Apple must have read the thread. Thank you, Tim Apple.

>>106546378 (OP)
>>106552315
based

>>106554551
on what?

>>106546772
>>106555145
>2025
nigger

>>106555154
cope

>>106555145
>>106555154
>m3
sorry bro but i have the m4 pro chip

>>106546397
explain

>>106546378 (OP)
>says it deleted your cloud pictures
>keeps them anyway

>>106546378 (OP)
>https://github.com/JGoyd/Undocumented-System-Behavior-in-iOS-18.6-Silent-TCC-Bypass-and-Data-Movement
This has yet to be acknowledged by Apple at all.

>>106558343
>a literal who schizo's schizophrenic "findings" that mean jack shit
I wouldn't bother acknowledging that either

>>106558418
I thought the same at first but multiple people confirmed online by testing, including here on >>>/g/. That guy is a noted security researcher who has found other flaws as well and he is in several cybersec mailing lists

>>106558343
>J "Goy" d

>>106558430
confirmed what?
that system daemons indeed have system privileges?
why would tcc restrict a system damon? "sorry i couldn't answer your call, forgot to to give the phone app permission to use the mic"

>>106558480
I am admittedly tech illiterate and don't belong here, I just discovered this from the original thread. If what you say is true that makes sense.
>>106346910 is the original thread. Here is a better quality video: https://ia600904.us.archive.org/25/items/silent-tcc-bypass-undocumented-video/Silent%20TCC%20Bypass%20Undocumented%20Video.mov

>>106558530
why would they even log that if it was supposed to be hidden

>>106558572
My guess is, for the 3 letter agencies.

>>106558572
I mean the log that the operation took place, not the thing itself. in that case the three letter agency would already have the data, no need to log it to a user-accessible place

>>106558609
meant for
>>106558592

>>106558609
As to that, I have no idea.

>>106552315
based

>>106546378 (OP)
This had been integrated and enabled in GrapheneOS since October 2023 for Pixel 8 and later. It's not new and they are not the most secure. There are still many exploits for even up-to-date versions of IOS which can be exploited by pegasus and cellebrite.

>>106547283
>go to your google account
not everyone is a retard like you

>>106559058
>xhe thinks google doesn't upload their data anyway just because xhe doesn't have a google account
lol

>>106546378 (OP)
Security means little without privacy, and with crApple you have little.

>>106546397
this
the only security that matters is encryption
not whatever dumb shtick this is

>>106552315
it's over

>>106559523
>thinks google is an omnipresent god capable of sucking your data out of thin air
not everyone is a retard like you

>>106546378 (OP)
>There has never been a successful, widespread malware attack against iPhone
Too bad I don't fall for your Israeli mind tricks, Tim Cuck

https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-iphone-flaw-exploited-by-second-israeli-spy-firm-sources-2022-02-03/

>>106546678
>>106546696
>>106547588
>>106555145

for longest time I thought iphone security was a meme, but after I got an iphone and started researching, it turns out that it's MILES ahead of android, because it's engineered on API level to be privacy-focused
for example, there's NO API for any app to silently listen/intercept any incoming calls. The only way is for apps to explicitly register as call interceptor and you gotta enable it manually
compare with android where chinks can wire in any number of any bullshit spying apps into the system silently and all permissions in the area are blanket granted on install with a tap
it's like not a competition at all, android is just "phone windows" where apps can do whatever the hell they want

>>106561547
Android has OS-level restrictions on their SpeechRecognizer API with built-in timeout for Android developers in the name of muh privacy, but the real purpose is so that they can have all the speech recognition data from all poodroid users' conversation. An iPhone user says "I want to buy a washing machine", then opens up Facebook marketplace and see no targeted washing machine ad. A jeetdroid user says "I want to redeem a washing machine," then opens up Facebook marketplace and see targeted washing machine ad. Many such cases.

>>106561996
google has tried to lock down their shitty api to try to match ios in the recent updates, but it's of course nowhere near OS which was designed from scratch to be private
the problem with locking API like this is they gotta still allow older builds to retroactively work in old way

applel secure™

>>106546378 (OP)
based
>>106552315
and redpilled

>>106561492
>2022

>>106561996
there are literal malware apps in play market that show you full screen ads every 10 seconds android is a fucking joke

>>106552315
based

>>106546378 (OP)
Bull-fucking-shit!

>>106552315
and redpilled

>>106565869
>no argument

>>106568215
>before ipad
>windows tablets looked like fisher price products
>after ipad
>windows tablets look like fisher price products

>>106546667
fix your fucking font rendering

>>106546378 (OP)
Windows has had this for over 5 years now

>>106568297
>only for code running in kernel mode

>>106568246
t. has never seen tools in real life

>>106568543
you don't need to sign your posts