Thread 106549510

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106540665

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>106549510 (OP)
That angled bottom fan intake looks so silly

>Nvidia has no plan to do a super refresh this year
can we finally admit blackwell was a success, this was the finaly cope to somehow pretend the launch was a disaster

The benchmark that buck broke nvidiots

>>106549629
why amd lose fps on new gen gpu¿

>cherrypicked benchmark
yep total amdcopers defeat

>>106549629
>not competing in high end
>same tier -50$ is a win
literally no one cares, compete in the high end
nobody cares about poorfags tardwrangling in a poverty segment

>>106549643
>crying about cherrypicking
>posts bf6
>on ultra at 4k to hide the nvidia overhead raping performance as much as possible
lol kys nigger

>>106549624
>fake leakers caught making shit up
>guys the super refresh got delayed i totally did not make shit up

>>106549629
>AMD is only faster in console ports with basically 0 pc specific optimization
>This is a win
How did it come to this?

>>106549699
This IS retard bait right? I can't genuinely tell anymore
this isn't even funny, just plain retardation at this point

>>106549699
>paying a thousand dollar gpu to play on low
>on a non competitive shooter battlefield 6
of course the retard on a 9070 xt thinks battlefield is valorant lmao

>>106549748
AMD Fellatio Unboxed

>>106549748
wow the 7600x gets cpu bound on recent titles? no wonder amd is going under their cpu are shit lmao

>>106549709
>if nvidia good performance game=well optimized
>if nvidia bad performance game=bad optimized
you nvididrones are literal npcs. i remember this being spammed back in the 2000s even when radeon was still ATI.

>>106549699
battlefield has always performed better on amd since at least bf3/4 because amd and dice collaborated on tech which is why bf4 has mantle api support exclusively on amd cards and mantle went on to become vulkan and dx12. it's one of those games which favours amd hardware, also probably because of consoles.

5090 today or wait for super 50s to tank prices?

>>106549773
and even then the nvidia GPU do much better when they are not cpu bound lmao >>106549643

>>106549771
>wow the 7600x gets cpu bound
good morning

I've not heard of a single person that bought this card

I've seen people buy 9070XT, 9060XT 8GB & 16GB

why did they bother making it

>>106549799
Yes, this is what happen when you are not cpu bound on the same game >>106549643
now cope and seethe

>>106549802
It's the perfect card for shunt and vbios modding for overclocking fun
That's about it

>>106549776
First you must consult the rule of the GPU
the rule clearly states, if you wait for anything other than -90 series, you are retarded
as such, you are retarded

>tank prices
delusional points added

5090 has already dipped multiple times, if you didn't buy one yet, it's over

>>106549808
that guy just woke up, just saying good morning to him

I went ahead and counted all the AMD dGPUs listed in the steam survey (it wasn't hard they are not many). Total AMD dGPU share in the survey is just 8.3%! There is another 5.2% of iGPUs junk listed under various AMD Radeon Graphics/Vega 8 ..etc. The rest is additional iGPUs and old junk listed under others.

AMD Radeon RX 6600 0.89%
AMD Radeon RX 580 0.67%
AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 0.65%
AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 0.64%
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 0.60%
AMD Radeon RX 580 2048SP 0.59%
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 0.49%
AMD Radeon RX 570 0.43%
AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT 0.33%
AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 0.31%
AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT 0.31%
AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT 0.28%
AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT 0.27%
AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT 0.26%
AMD Radeon RX 550 0.24%
AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT 0.20%
AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 0.19%
AMD Radeon RX 6800 0.18%
AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 0.17%
AMD Radeon RX 6750 12GB 0.16%
AMD Radeon RX 6750 10GB 0.16%

>>106549837
wow the 580 got overtaken only took like 8 years

>>106549837
570 was kinda goated back in the day tbhdesunesenpai

>>106549836
>5090 has already dipped

they haven't even "dipped" to msrp

>>106549773
not that i wanted to buy that pozzed game, but i tried the open beta, my 7900xtx ran it fine, solid fps at 1440p. Game was okay, but the series peaked with Bad Company 2 and it wasnt even close.

>>106549699
>a 9070xt is only 5% faster than a 5070
>this is somehow a win for AMD

>>106549938
then they wonder why nobody is buying the insanely overpriced 9070XT
Yes this really is how brainless AMDrones are

8GB is enough for 1080p

>>106549938
>winning is a win
Correct.

>>106549879
they have been below msrp before they adjusted down even more to the new mspr here
seems like a (You) issue

Friendly reminder Njudean goyslaves, stop being short sighted, buy Intel-aviv or AMD gpus to help the pc gaming industry. Your chart-autism is doing you no favours with your buyers remorse.

>>106550116
no

>>106550116
AMD doesn't care about desktop
Intel has a ways to go and realistically even if I was somehow able to convince 10k people to buy intel gpus with me it would make no difference.

>>106550116
>Njudean goyslaves, stop being short sighted, buy Intel-aviv or AMD gpus
surely my self sacrifice wont be in vain?
you are the lowest iq slopper here

>>106550116
shan't be buying AMD Ra-ZION

>>106549624
All the waitfags that told people to wait for super release at year end kek. Imagine waiting

>>106550235
people were delusional to think the jacket was going to give them 24gb for less than 1000

>>106549624
JBAFN

>>106550235
>Imagine waiting
RTX 50 card prices went down, including the 5090.

>>106550288
6+ months after launch lmao.

holy shit Charlie Kirk is dead, assassinated by a commie or some shit. Shot in the neck. They're going after cuckservatives like him now? wild.

Quick question, I've been trying to google this but only get shit results.

So I watched a video of some dude 3D printing case parts to create individual air channels to each part that needs cooling and got pretty significant results.

I'm planning to make a desk pc (no see-through panel, so aesthetics isn't as important). Would it be better to separate all the parts to create individual airflows inside the desk or watercool the whole thing?

>>106550307
And 9070 XT still didn't sell well :(
One of the best times to gain market share, and they've settled for NVIDIA - $50 (+$50 for 9070)...

I put my old corsair AIO fans as case fans and the PC sounds like a jet
they feel like they are made out of ceramic
I'm out of budget for this month, but I think I will order some case fans anyway

do people really increase the height of their monitors this much, 32" even?
32" is too small

>>106550390
>too small
sit closer to your screen nigga, there's people out there gaming on 16 inch laptops and getting IMMERSED

>>106550390
lol, that assault desk lap in case the screen is not bright enough

>>106550360
if you're going to go full cooling-autist you may as well go all the way and immerse your build in a circulating 3M Novec bath instead of faffing about with 3d prints

>>106550402
>there's people out there gaming on 16 inch laptops and getting IMMERSED
my main is a 15.6 laptop, idk if I would say I'm getting IMMERSED
you can only physically sit so close to a laptop and it contain so much of your view, lol

>>106550403
yes

why does it seem woled monitors get insane image retention some times? or does this happen with qd too not sure
seems asysu woleds alot

not burn in, image retention

woled sui pixels send their regards

>>106550464
you pay extra for beta testing
I will wait until it becomes affordable industry standard

>>106550483
not see image retention like that on tv counterparts
>I will wait
waiting compared to how much money you can make faster (unless favelafag) does not compute, you are better off flipping a burger and consooming
plus you could die tomorrow
waitfag meta died
we are firmly in the consoomer arc now

>>106549802
It made sense to buy one for the 1st month of release when you could actually buy them for release pricing. It was one of the only cards at the time not being scalped en masse

>>106550360
glass is a pretty nice desk material to work with though?

>>106550369
they've sold the majority of the stock they had, it was a successful launch for them. It could certainly be better, but AMD needs to work on their logistics badly, they got outplayed by middlemen grifters i suspect.

>>106549510 (OP)
Getting closer to getting my parts, if it weren't for the £100 gap between the RX 9070 XT and the RTX 5070Ti.
Whilst I don't even use the Nvidia features, truth be told Anons and this isn't a bit, this isn't the Nvidia shill coming out BUT... giving up DLSS alone makes me feel like I'm a poorfag just for even considering AMD GPUs.

>>106550390
I have a 27" monitor and I often get annoyed at how big it is with my face about 16" away

>>106550552
Completely selling a single quarter's worth of stock doesn't deserve a pat on the back.

>>106550727
Windows 10 holding strong

>>106550753
it's gonna fall of a cliff next year
a lot of enterprise upgraded to w11 this year that's why it finally surpassed w10 in global share
I've already got family asking me what to upgrade to since windows is spamming people that they need to upgrade because support stops next month

I just recieved a 9070 XT Powercolor Hellhound through Amazon, and it came without the OEM packaging, just a bag, a ZOTAC gaming branded sleeve, and the GPU itself.

How fucked am I? Should I immediately ask for a return? I thought it bought new condition from PC part picker.

>>106550662
It's okay. NVIDIA's greed will reach a tipping point, the AI bubble will collapse quite soon.

>>106550662
Just buy the 9070 XT if you're not going to use NVIDIA's features.

How is sapphire? I heard they are making AM5 boards now, can they be trusted more than the others?

I'm not lying when I say the state of AM5 motherboards is a big reason I don't want to move over to it. AM4 never had as many issues.

>>106550770
Sad, 11 sucks ass. I use it daily for work and just don't like it. Sticking with 10 on the PC for as long as possible.

>>106550781
>AI bubble
I am a believer
>>106550785
Honestly fair, just using Optiscaler feels like a cope

>>106550788
Whats the issue with AM5 motherboards?

>>106550857
nta, a lot.

>>106550840
AMD added an FSR4 override for FSR 3.1-supported titles on their latest driver (with few limitations).

>144-0p
>144-hz
coincidence? I think not

>>106550887
What is there besides the asrock MBs killing x3d chips?

>>106550788
Sapphire's B850 boards seem reasonably priced; there might be a few growing pains with the BIOS & drivers.
They re-entered the motherboard market with B650 models in 2024.
The warranty appears to be limited to 2 years.

How will this effect the pc market?

>>106551064
tariffs on mil-sim games? the shooter was a MSNBC boomer-cultist apparently, not confirmed yet though. I wish trump would stop being a pussy and just label all these commie traitors the enemies of the state they have been for the last 50 years and throw them in jail.

Its amazing the propaganda that gets pushed at universities in the west.

>>106551144
>MSNBC boomer-cultist apparently, not confirmed yet though
The old guy wasn't the shooter, they already confirmed that.

>>106549802
if it launched at 500 instead of 550 it would have been good

>>106551144
I wish he would do that too but for different reasons :^

Thermalright seem to be AI-generating their fan designs.

Thread deader than usual
Is everyone on /pol/?

>>106551627
4chan is always dead during NA hours. This entire website is primarily SEA/EU. Notice how many pcpartpickers we're getting that's not in USD.

hmm guys i upgraded my 2060 super to a 5070 ti and my fps are almost the same in most of the games what could be the reason? some kind of bottleneck? my gpu usage is always at like 60%. i game in native 1080p btw

>>106551638
The ESLing of /g/ in general has been very noticeable ever since 4chan went down earlier this year.

>>106551666
>my gpu usage is always at like 60%. i game in native 1080p btw
I'm not sure if troll or not but 1080p to a 5070ti is nothing especially if you don't have a CPU to drive it
yes it's a CPU bottleneck what CPU is it

>>106551698
>what CPU is it
ryzen 7 5700g

>>106551717
>>106551666
CPU bottleneck for sure.
Even a 5800X3D can bottleneck the 5070ti in some games. Like it won't be terrible dipping under 60fps but you won't be able to Vsync lock 120fps on a TV because the 1% lows can dip as low as 80.

>>106551717
>5700g
This is basically a Ryzen 3800 CPU with PCIe bandwidth limited to Gen 3 x16
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700g.c2472

>>106551725
>Even a 5800X3D can bottleneck the 5070ti in some games.
fuck me
>the 1% lows can dip as low as 80.
yeah that's exactly one of the main issues. the 1% lows are absolutely terrible and noticeable it's extremely annoying. i even tried to switch from native 1080p to 1620p 2.25 dlsdr + dlss but the performance and FPS are almost the same

we're long past the days of CPUs not mattering all that much for gaming. I can't really fault players for buying the 9800X3D in droves, even if I think it's a ridiculous price for an 8c16t CPU

>>106551717
I have a 13600k + 5070 non-ti and in almost anything isn't path tracing or ue5 I'm bottlenecked at both 1080p and 1440p.

>>106551821
9800x3d is only good for the averages. It doesn't improve stuttering in ue5 games and things like that

>>106551785
like I said it happens in some games not all. but yeah cpu bottlenecks can be annoying. its not just cpu too but also ram. tightning up the timings and having almost double the datarate helps a lot.

>>106551832
A lot of people just aren't aware that outside of crazy 4K settings, most modern GPUs are pretty goddamn powerful and spend most of their time CPU bottlenecked but yeah UE5 titles adds a lot of issues because of its terrible optimization

>>106551838
9800X3D does mask the stuttering somewhat but it cant stop bad games from shader compiling in real time since it only has 8 cores.

>>106551884
are you mentally ill

>>106551889
this is on a 7800X3D. UE5 compiles stuff in real time.

The Champ

>>106551932
spending $479 for 8 cores in 2025 is retarded

>>106551932
is that cooler even powerful enough

>my problem gets ignored for months
>manuel (i love that nigga) finally says they are investigating the issue
based
never give up
keep pestering front facing company reps with your problems
they will eventually notice you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjcMM5hZqmA

IT WAS AN AMD ISSUE ALL ALONG
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AMD QC IS NONEXISTANT
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>106551988
>jayz2braincells
get a better source

>>106552046
just because he appeals to teenagers with his video thumbnails, humour and his videos are poorly paced and uninformative doesnt mean he's not a valid source of information

>>106551698
>>106551725
>>106551832
small update. i went to my bios and manually changed my pcie to gen 3 and now it's working a little bit better at least on helldivers. i went from 80-90fps in native 1080p to 110-130.

>>106551979
at eco mode sure. the cpu pulls like 105w. my phenom 2 was 125w and cooled with a hyper 212.

>>106551988
phision claims it was review drives shipping out with pre-release firmware. nobody has been able to reproduce it on actual consumer drives. people ssd die and they think windows did it when ssds just naturally die bro theres no click or warning like hdd.

>>106552152
it wasnt pre release software
it was an amd agesa firmware update that fixed it for jay

>>106551988
Jay literally hates AMD CPUs so much kek

>>106552167
prob cuz they suck for the most part

>>106552148
helldivers is a shitty optimized game. its bogged down by gameguard anticheat. it doesn't support dlss or reflex or any performance stuff.

>>106552161
agesa fixes a lot of shit on the pcie side. go figure. nvidia pcie5 gpus didnt boot until agesa. nvme drives will shit themselves until they get a firmware update from the company or a firmware update from amd.

>>106552175
yeah even the devs have said as much and the PC version is also gigantic for some bizarre reason, shitloads of duplicated assets

Best ~24 inch 1080p 75mh monitor?

>>106552207
the game reeks of it was planned for ps4 but pushed out to ps5 and pc because sony is desperate like spiderman 2.

>>106552226
>2025
why

>>106552226
Just pick one.
The recent 21.5/22 inch va 100hz/120hz monitors are all decent.

What do anons think about this problem:
https://gmplib.org/gmp-zen5

> We have fried two Ryzen 9950X CPUs in a few months by running GMP tests. This is not expected, of course. In this page, we provide as much information as possible to help analysing the problem.

>What causes these CPUs to die while running GMP is unknown to us. While similar, it is not the widely reported Asrock motherboard problem, as the motherboards we use are of a different make (see below). It might be that the Zen 5 CPUs pull more power than specified when running GMP, or it might be that our cooling solutions are inadequate.

>The 1st failure happened in late winter 2025 (February IIRC). The system was located in a dedicated room in a flat in Stockholm, Sweden. The ambient temperature in the room was low, less than 20°C.

>The 2nd failure happened 2025-08-24 in a dedicated computer room, with ambient temperature just over 20°C.

>>106549938
>5090 ($2250) is only 3% faster than the 9070xt ($700)
it's obviously cpu limited at that resolution/quality

>>106552296
please god i hope intel's nova lake cpus save us from amdisasters

>>106552285
I don't want high hertz because I have a rudimentary PC. But still playing some games.
My current AOC I2381FH serves me well still, but the matrix started giving up.

>>106552308
high refresh rate isn't going to make your computer explode and it will be much nicer to use on the desktop

>>106552308
60hz vs 100/120 is basically 0 difference in price for 1080p now so you might as well.

https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/221V8LB_27/monitor-lcd-monitor

Can personally vouch for this specific monitor model. Don't know anything cheaper without going really ghetto either. $40 on ebay for what appears to be an open box right now.

>>106552348
If my framerate is higher than refresh rate = tearing.
If my framerate is lower than refresh rate = ?

>>106552301
Well, Intel CPUs of 13th generation (probably) had the problem of MASSIVE failures, something was wrong with the production line.
About AMD CPUs - I know about these 2 cases only.

>>106552046
I prefer Jayznosense.

>>106552369
the intel thing is bad but it looks like they've fixed it
amd doesn't acknowledge or fix bugs and passes blame to third parties and it's annoying as fuck

>>106552362
monitor has variable refresh rate that'll work on amd gpus
Or you could just set the refresh rate to whatever and then cap it, that works too.

>>106552148
helldiver is very heavy on the cpu, it's fine for desert biomes but it just dip for forest / city
just turn up the graphic settings

>>106551785
You could try framegen or multiframegen

the only 2 decent gpus of this generation (9070xt and 5070ti) are both overpriced by about 300usd

what to do?

>>106549837
uhh sweaty you realize this is just because of oem pc's and laptops? when calculating only CUSTOM made pc builds it was shown that ayy umm dee accounts for over 60% of builds in 2024...

>>106550840
>just using Optiscaler feels like a cope
using github software feels like a cope to you? forgot this was the /poser/ board, you fags dont like technology or software
go back to the gaming board fags

>>106550662
Get the 5070 TI. You'll use that card for years being cheap on the most important pc component is retarded.

>>106552497
you stop complaining and buy one now or keep waiting and continue the cycle when the 6070ti comes out

>>106549837
>AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 0.49%
we stay winning chads!

>>106552497
If you're at 1080p or 1440p you might as well just buy a 5070, not like that 4gb of vram is going to matter before it's time for a new gpu.

>>106552519
oh silly sweaty, amd has been called the FINE WINE gpu because it only gets better over time
>more expensive = better
nonsense for audiophiles, where the audio company gets them to pay 5k for a dac which is the same as a 1k dac

>>106552544
It says 5070 TI, the 5070 is a dogshit card.
the 9060+9060xt, the 9070 nonxt, the 5060+ti and 5070 non-ti are all horrible cards, while the 5080 and 5090 are too expensive.

>>106552546
no one, i mean seriously no one consider a 9070XT worth buying. even the fat fuck that shill amd on youtube steve bought a 5080 for her daugther.

They still dont even appear on the steam peoplel just larp about having them

>>106552553
also the other steve (gamer nexus) just this week admitted EVERY GPU on his lab is NVIDIA

>>106552553
>They still dont even appear on the steam peoplel just larp about having them
refer to >>106552510

>nvidia marketshare is now 100%
>9000 and UDNA5 still fail to appear on the stemacharts
>resident amdschizo just has once again made a post about buying his 10070 XT on the general whie Lisa announce that radeon will no longer make discreete GPU's

>>106552552
Maybe just go get a job if you feel that way then you fucking nigger.
>>106552580
based

>>106552568
If you're referring to that German retailer, they're restructuring after filing for bankruptcy.

>>106552633
no im referring to third party sources by multiple youtubers sweaty
amd is winning in pc building
oem cucks who are bribed by intel and nvidia like a bunch of cucks are majority of third worlders using steam for dota 2 and cs2

like 5 months ago you guys were trying to run the nvidia guy out of here
how the turns tabled

>>106552552
According to you
even captcha agrees:
>2YGAY

>>106552654
>multiple youtubers
Yikes

>>106552654
Do these PC builders not use Steam at all?
Why don't you explain the 9070 XT & the entire 9060's absence when the 9070 & even the region-limited 9070 GRE appear in the Vulkan compatible card list?
Where are all the people who bought the 9070 XT at the launch price?
Massive cope from this sweaty shitstain.

>>106552704
Steam survey is stupid flawed. Not everyone gets the survey and even when they do they count the igpu or OEM spam. It's like going to passmark for GPU statistics.

>>106552720
>Not everyone gets the survey
AMD CPUs are gaining momentum in the survey just fine.

>even when they do they count the igpu or OEM spam
Strange, this doesn't happen to the 9070 or even the GRE.

Bad cope.

hes still talking about someone elses child
but hes not the pedo btw

>>106552296
>These are supposedly top-quality motherboard
An Asus Prime? I fucking doubt it
I'd put it down to poor cooling, poor motherboard and silicon lottery failure. AMD delayed those 9000 series CPUs for a reason and there's been too many to count reports of them dying and exploding at a rate which wasn't seen on the 7000 series, pretty much all of them concerning power delivery too

I watched some intel presentation (which was painful they really need to stop letting clearly autistic engineers do public facing presentations) and they basically said they are coming to the limits of silicon and they need to find new materials.

>>106549624
Source?

>>106552387
Weirdest AMD bug story was on some GN video, talking to one of their engineers they said there was a datacenter full of AMD CPUs that completely shut off after being on for 3 years nonstop, evidently there was a bug that just meant if a CPU was on for 3 years nonstop it would automatically shut off. Something like that I'm guessing there's no way to discover in testing but a funny story regardless.

>>106552861
that sounds fake

>>106552843
then why is amd and nvidia still doin tricks on it courtesy of TSMC?

>>106552558
Well yeah AMD is useless for productivity

>>106552885
Well the AMD jeet said it so take it up with him

>>106552843
monolith chip design is dead is what intel means. nvidia and amd already know this too. thats why datacenter blackwell is chiplet. amd next gen gpu is also chiplet again because they made patents related to more gpu chiplet stuff.

I have a multi monitor setup of 4x 60hz/24"/1200p/16:10 monitors (Dell 2412M) that are starting to age and one has a dead gnat squished in it. I game, watch movies, and want excellent accuracy/good viewing angles/low ghosting/no burn in AKA fuck OLED. I'm in the market for a new main display specifically. Should I go 16:10 again? upgrade from 24" to 27"? Refresh rate is obviously something that needs an upgrade so I'd say 120HZ+ and whatever synch bullshit is meta right now. I'll be using a 5070 TI.
Would a 16:9 IPS 1440p look retarded next to my old monitors or are they still too big in the peripheral vision to want to game on?

The ASUS XG27ACS in the OP looks to have shit reviews.

>>106549802
It competes with the 5070 and as an Nvidia loyalist I would have still given a recommendation if 16 VRAM was an important enough to someone and the price was not too much higher, double especially since the Supers are going to require more waitfagging. However the price differential between it and the XT was so small that cheaper brands have XTs at the same price.
>why bother making
The question is why bother selling it for the price it is at? There is a market segment it is filling but it is just out of reach for those in that segment.

>>106549510 (OP)
I want to min/max single threaded performance on a budget:
>intel 12700k [same TDP as 12600k but more cores]
>disable E-cores
>disable 2x P-cores to reduce thermal load
>put a giant-ass cooler on the chip
>overclock it as high as possible
would this even work or should I just get a 12600k instead?

>>106552930
9600x3d when that comes out.

>>106552861
that was the zen2 1044 day uptime bug

>>106552922
>The question is why bother selling it for the price it is at?
The die size of the 9070/XT is around 6% smaller than the $750 5070 Ti & the $1000 5080.
These 9070/XT chips are 36% larger than the 5070's.
All of these chips are using different customizations of the TSMC 5nm node.
AMD doesn't want to destroy their margins, so they are content with keeping the 9070 $600 & the 9070 XT @ $700.

Those US prices are not due to tariffs, NVIDIA has no problems selling their FEs @ MSRP, and their AIBs are selling the entry tier models @ MSRP.

AMD's Epyc & Ryzen CCDs can be made on those custom 5 nm nodes as well, and it's a more profitable business.
AMD doesn't want to flood the market with RX 9000 cards. They'll make more Radeon cards if there's spare production capacity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqKJN7MGZGQ

Ephinea runs best on AMD

>>106552387
step aside, there's a new challenger on the block

>>106552958
>>AMD doesn't want to destroy their margins, so they are content with keeping the 9070 $600 & the 9070 XT @ $700.
THAT WASN'T PART OF THE DEAL AYYYYMMMMDDDDDDD
THAT WASN'T PARRRRRRRRT

>>106552958
>>106553000
>9070 XT @ $700
HUB steve just said on a recent mlid podcast that that was the original price amd asked him for his opinion about
Safe to say that the $600 launch price was just a limited time offer for the 100 lucky people who got one at that price

>>106552919
>The ASUS XG27ACS in the OP looks to have shit reviews.
People have unrealistic expectations of a monitor that is discounted to $200 fairly regularly.
The monitor got good professional reviews, the RTINGS score is mediocre because it's being compared against the best gaming monitors.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-strix-xg27acs
https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/gaming-monitors/asus-rog-strix-xg27acs-qhd-180-hz-gaming-monitor-review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXgvP84g2BU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2T1wNu6Q6Y

I don't care for ASUS or the ROG brand, but you need to look at miniLED, OLED, or 4K IPS monitors if you want something better than the XG27ACS (value-wise).
I know there are 1440p IPS monitors with better specs, but these are usually priced well above $300 that you might as well consider miniLED monitors.

>>106552552
No such thing as a bad GPU, only a bad price.
Maybe for AI the 4gb would make a huge difference (either it fits, or it doesn't), but this isn't the same as comparing the 5060 TI 8gb vs 5060 TI 16gb because 2x more vram is huge enough to matter for mohun wilds and other slop games (you probably need a 9800x3d anyways to get the best experience, so the 5070 TI is a budget GPU at that point, just get a 5090 to complement the 9800x3d), but the 5070 is fine with 12gb on mohun wilds at like 75fps while the 5070 TI is 90fps (1440p DLSS, medium, no frame gen, you don't get the same low resolution textures as with 8gb).
I bet there are situations where the 5070 TI runs 50% faster than the 5070 (because the 5070 has 30% more vram and the chip is just better), but I would look closely at the vram usage, and if the vram usage is more than 12gb, you need to take the benchmark with a grain of salt that it's biased towards high vram usage, and with lower settings the gap will be narrower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXyntHZI-0
So that means if the 5070 is 20% better than the 5070 TI on average for games that fit in the 5070, if $500 for a 5070 is fair, $600 for a 5070 TI should be fair, but if the game is running with more than 12gb of vram, it could approach 50% more FPS, a 5070 TI should cost $750 (but I have not seen the 5070 run 50% faster even if the vram used is above 12gb, probably because the games just reduce the vram usage and less vram usage = lower quality textures = higher fps so it just balances out, the game looks different but not as different as 8gb of vram).

amd

I don't buy AMtalmuD hardware gimped nigger gamer only console architecture, simple as that

>>106553131
So you buy dogshit intel CPUs with massive stability problems that cant hit their rated clocks? Cool.

>>106553140
what does that have to do with GPUs

My computer is all EVGA parts, it's lasted me 12 years and is still going strong. Recently started looking into building a new one and there is nothing EVGA available anymore. What gives? I really liked that brand.

>>106553146
Is the RDNA in the room with you right now?

>>106553156
why do you get upset when someone points out that RDNA is a gaming only hardware gimped console architecture?

How are KTC monitors?

>>106553163
>why do you get upset
I'm not. I am moving off of AMD's GPUs because they suck donkey dick right now comparatively in the high end

>>106553163
werks fine for rendering on my machine
only thing amd can't do is AIslop which is more of a patent issue than anything with design

>>106553184
One anon bought the 4K IPS miniLED, he was very happy with it and bought a second one.
But don't expect KTC to release user-upgradeable firmware.
It's more realistic to assume you're stuck with the current features & downsides.

https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27p6-review/
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27t6-review/

>>106553152
turns out cutting off 80% of your revenue isn't great for your business

>>106553201
Thank you, anon.

>>106553199
a 9070XT gets the performance of a 3060ti in blender rendering, it's atrocious at rendering

>>106553199
>he boughted AyyMD for rendering
jfc the brand loyalist retards in this general are insane

nvidia

Built my PC in 2015, never upgraded it, have never once cleaned it, and about 4 years ago I stuck a chopstick between the fan because it was rattling nonstop so I only have the GPU fan going, but I unscrewed the side of the tower is everything is exposed and getting some airflow, but I have it against the wall so I dont know how well it works, and when I first boot it makes a horrible noise for about 2 minutes and occasionally revs after about 12 hours

Any advice?

>>106553152
EVGA's GeForce GPU business became unsustainable, so the owner of the company decided to shut it all down after they made 10 years' worth of profit during a single year of COVID-19 lockdowns.
EVGA relied on an OEM to assemble their GPUs, and that added cost made it hard to compete against other AIBs with in-house manufacturing capabilities and NVIDIA's Founders Edition cards.
NVIDIA also kept reducing AIB's margins because from NVIDIA's pov, the AIBs just assemble finished parts in a PCB.

>>106553235
>Any advice?
maybe it's time to clean it.

>>106549510 (OP)
Nice rig-
>tranime
Kys anybody who purposelly infects their build with cuck media should be immeditely hanged

>>106553238
>and that added cost made it hard to compete against other AIBs with in-house manufacturing capabilities
Many other AIBs use an OEM. Kinda have to unless you want to spool production capacity and only have it sit idle once demand dies. Asus is confirmed to use Lite-on for mobos.
AIBs are also using OEMs to avoid tariffs, it's why lots of GPUs are coming from Vietnam as opposed to China or Taiwan

>>106553267
jfc when will mods permaban these spammers
like you cant even have a pc building thread going without SPAM

>>106553267
It's probably time to change your tampon.

>>106553267
Uh oh jeet cuckold melty!

>>106553222
thats more to do with cuda being dominant and nobody supporting hip or rocm.

>>106553184
I like the 2 I got

>>106553294
what if you had infinite money and servants taking care of everything you need
would you keep using those monitors

>>106553274
Some of the major video card manufacturers have their own assembly plants, like MSI.

>>106553286
nope, it's because AMDs architecture is completely gimped at a hardware level for anything outside of gaming, it's AMD intentionally screwing dual use customers

>>106553301
No I'd probably do 4K oled monitors and replace them every year, with a kitted out rig and a lady that sits under my desk and gives me BJs 24/7. But the miniled is truly pretty great and I am in excel for long hours so burn in is a real concern for me

>>106553317
Which KTC did you get?

>>106553235
Maybe don't fix your troubles by sticking a chopstick in it. If a fan is bad remove it and buy a dirt cheap replacement.
>has a chopstick
Givin yellowskins a bad name

>>106553304
All GPU vendors had their own plants at one point, It's kind of what made AIBs important as they had that infrastructure.
The business has changed however. There are many OEMs with the ability to make high-end PCB assemblies.
It's part of the reason Nvidia made the margins so thin on GPUs as AIBs are somewhat replaceable.

>>106553235
uh, we need pics for this one

>>106553267
i cant believe anime derangement syndrome on an anime site exists

>>106553320
M27T6 and H27E6

>>106553308
compute is just tflops. amd does better tflops than nvidia at a hardware level. but its irrelevant if software is holding it back (cuda).

>>106553346
Insecure normalfags will always say something controversial to try to fit in.

>Nvidia forcing AIBs to overprice their products to customers
>won't somebody think of the poor AIBs being bullied by Nvidia

>>106553308
Then why AMD hardware like 50% better on Linux than Nvidia on Windows or Linux?

>>106553349
Is m27p6 the only good 4k one? Its sold out here

>>106553357
free labor

>>106553362
I'll let other anons weigh in, I dont know about the 4K ones. But I'd say the miniled is better than the IPS for sure. The IPS glow is moderately bad on mine, maybe I'm just getting annoyed with IPS now. But the ghosting is noticeable on the miniled so it's going to be a tradeoff either way

>>106553340
There's hardly any margin left to share with an OEM when we're talking about NVIDIA cards.
You're just assuming ASUS outsourced their GeForce manufacturing because Lite On assembles their motherboards; the business arrangement is completely different with NVIDIA.
>AIBs are also using OEMs to avoid tariffs
They can own those companies as their subsidiaries, like how ASUS has majority ownership of ASRock.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-pulls-the-plug-with-loud-bang-yet-it-has-long-been-editorial/

>>106553395
>There's hardly any margin left to share with an OEM when we're talking about NVIDIA cards.
There is when you sell GPUs $1000 over sticker to offset from the tiny margins on MSRP cards.
Using OEMs is pretty standard practice nowadays. EVGA was just the one transparent enough to let that info out.

>>106553423
>There is when you sell GPUs $1000 over sticker to offset from the tiny margins on MSRP cards.
And you keep more of that margin for yourself if you keep an in-house assembly. You cut the middleman out.
Especially if you're capable of producing 200K video cards per week.

>>106553441
It's not just about margin.
Owning your own SMT line if fine but it becomes a liability when demand ebbs and flows. Companies have long since figured this out and is why even the cheapest garbage low margin devices have outsourced assembly.

>>106553503
>but it becomes a liability when demand ebbs and flows
Except NVIDIA and their partners are getting better at ending GPU production early to manage those demand cycles.
NVIDIA's also being more lenient with how much AIBs can charge for their video cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuHuM9h88M

Its a bit curious the algorithm doesnt manage to hide the static window use with the pixel refresh and that the darker taskbar is also impacting the burn in relative to rest of the panel. Maybe some other brands algorithms do a better job, or lg woled is better at it.

still with how minor the issue is with extreme use it should make it easier for poor teenagers to finally invest into an oled without worry

>>106553532
>ill cuckold myself out of proper use because muh oled
Not gimping my experience, give me an oled that doesn't burn in or get Charlie Kirk'd, you stupid nigger

>>106553532
And remember this is with 100% static content at max brightness, not anything close to how you or eye would be using one.

>>106553764
the first vid says 200 nits which is average
average gamer would want to enable hdr with max 1k nits

I'm on Asrock B850 Riptide
is it worth to undervolt 9600x or will AMD tell me it was my fault it eventually burned down?

Ryzens are supposed to run HOT, right? My 9600 runs at up to 85C when I really load it, usually idles around 50C, which is below tjmax=95, but waaaaaaay higher than anything my old i5-10400f ran at, I'm talking 15C higher across the board.
The Ryzen even has a MASSIVE cooler rated for up to 250W. Forgot what exact model I got, but it's a BeQuiet something Pro. (((BlackRock))) Pro or whatever.
Would disabling the AMD iGPU in the bios help? I've seen that as a tip online. My old Intel didn't have an iGPU.

>>106553802
they literally don't care what you do to it as long as you don't delid it

>>106553833
>Would disabling the AMD iGPU in the bios help?
Nope
Ryzen desktop runs hot because the ccd hotspot is off-center

>>106553833
It's specced for a lifetime at 95C. It won't throttle unless you exceed that.

>>106553833
Thermal interface needs time to cure even if manufacturers tell you it doesn't need it. See how PTM7950 performs worse than toothpaste within the first 5 minutes but after some mins or cycles it melts and becomes on par with liquid metal.

>have new PC
>remember you can now emulate any Switch game at full speed 4K
>emulate a game
>looks and runs like ass, “1080p“30, because it's a fucking switch game
Is PC building a scam? I swear by the time I get to do something demanding on my [current computer] it's already unimpressive.

Can i mod a case for 4-5 3.5" bays?
Recommend cases with actual airflow
>ATX
>290mm GPU
>Shit for budget
>Aecond hand market is dry

>>106553862
You a noob? Just increase Vulkan render

>>106553872
I swear the game (Xenoblade 2) uses some aggressive internal dynamic resolution that even if I set it to 4K the actual rendered output looks horrible.

>>106553865
why do you need a big gpu in a nas

>>106553875
Xenoblade 2 & 3 are notoriously broken on emulators. It's just those two for some reason. 1 and X are just fine. You also need mods to disable the dynamic res for 2 or go higher than 30fps but it also makes the game retarded demanding on any CPU except X3D.

>>106553885
Damn, guess the next best thing is jerking it to AI sloppa of Pyra's gigantic tits that my new PC can generate in seconds.

>>106553891
or buy a real switch. theyre not expensive especially a switch lite. they're also all cracked via mod chip or flash cart.

>>106552362
Nothing. At 120hz 60fps you'll just have every frame displayed twice. And VRR will adapt to whatever framerate on the fly anyway.

>>106552892
That the 9070 pulls 3090 performance is actually pretty nice.

Reminder that AMD users have to live with worse image quality because they don't have access to DLSS4.
9070XT might be more powerful than 5070, but the 5070 will probably look better and run just as well as the 9070XT, at DLSS Balanced vs FSR Quality.

>>106552362
On VRR lower refresh rate doesn't hurt the image. You will just notice it chugging because the screen will now be updating slower, simply as fast as your GPU is outputting frames, then you'll just realize how slow 60 FPS actually is. If you set the global max framerate limit to slightly below your VRR max then you will also never have to worry about tearing ever again.

Is an rtx 2080 ti at 150 bucks worth buying? Thinking of buying a small gift for a friend thats still using a 680.

>>106554456
as long as you can verify it doesnt have early defective gddr6 memory, yes

>>106554456
Shit, for 150 euro in my cuntry you can get a 3060Ti at most. Seems like a great deal to me.

I still haven't decided if I should go for a 7800X3D over my 7600X. Life is rough.

>>106554570
are you an esports gaymer? if not then who cares, you don't need 360 FPS to enjoy single player or casual multiplayer games

>>106554570
how long are you planning to keep the cpu for?
if you are plan to upgrade to it within am5 lifespan might as well stick to the cheaper one currently

>>106554587
I cap my frame rates at 120, but I heard the 1% lows are also better. I use a 7800XT, and sometimes I see underutilization in Warzone for example.

>>106554570
Do you play esports or rts games? Worth it.
Play games at 1080 or 1440? Maybe worth it.
Only play highly gpu demanding games and/or only at 4k? Not worth it.

>>106554590
Not sure, I can just sell my current CPU for full price, as I build an office PC, so I was wondering if I should go for a 7700 (non-X) that's the same price as my 7600X or should I just go full retard and invest into an X3D.
>>106554603
I play BF titles, Warzone 2 and WUWA, the latter does not require anything demanding, but the FPS games would benefit from a faster CPU I think. Well, I guess X3D does not worth the extra, I might just swap the 7600X to a 7700, because I sometimes render stuff, so the extra 2 cores are quite useful in Lightroom and games.

Hello anons, I am able to find a 7900XTX second-hand for 550-600 eurodollars, cheapest price for new is at 820. Do you think it's a good buy? Obviously I don't know how much the cards were (ab)used. I plan on gaming at 1080p 240+ fps

>>106554734
youd be better off not buying last gen amd, let alone used last gen amd

>>106554734
which model is it, and also price of new 9070xt/5070ti in your market?

>>106554570
do it. the 7600 wasnt enough. games are so much smoother now

t. 7800x3d chad

>>106554736
Noted.
>>106554739
Hellhound. Cheapest new 9070XT is about 650.
I'm wondering how these two cards compare basically.

>>106554764
they are pretty close in term of performance, i think some games even the 9070xt beat it
unless you have some use cases for the 24gb vram i would say it's too expensive for a hellhound

>>106554781
Very well, I'll also look into a 7900XT. Thanks for your time!

Would it be possible to install 2 x 32GB RAM into an Asrock A320 chipset motherboard?
I know it's limitations are listed as 32GB total but I've read up that sometimes it's not the case, and there's no way I'm switching a motherboard just for more ram. I couldn't find any information on it so any responses, even opinions, will be appreciated.

I have just built a new PC with a m8 who's done it before and it's working fine. However it only has one SSD with the OS on it. I want to bring two HDDs from my old PC over and have plugged them into the SATA cables, and they do appear in the Disk Manager, but there doesn't appear to be any way to interact with them. What do I need to do?

>>106554882
Did you plug in the power connector?

>>106554456
I did a similar deal a couple years back, it was decent stopgap at least, the 680 just has zero vram to make anything work now

>>106554836
depends on the board and the bios
you'll have to do some googling to find out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LcA-oc_VFs

>microrgb
>it's mini led but the backlight is rgb
that is cool but wouldn't that just make blooming more obvious?

Found an ITX build for sale on Marketplace with the following specs for $1,100

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

CPU Cooler:
Thermaltake TH120 V2 ARGB Sync

Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4

Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB DDR4-3600

Storage:
Seagate BarraCuda Q5 1 TB M.2 + Crucial MX500 4 TB 2.5" SSD

GPU:
Zotac RTX 4070 Ti Amp Airo

Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850 W 80+ Gold Certified

Is this a good deal or would I be better off building something new for that price?

>>106555365
If you're buying into the ITX form factor meme, you probably can't find anything comparable brand new for less than 1400

Are Steam Hardware surveys faked, or why is there a disproportionately high amount of people claiming they have a 9070XT (or wanting one) and shilling it, compared to what the market share numbers would otherwise imply?

>>106555346
>that is cool but wouldn't that just make blooming more obvious
Not at all, the color of the backlight tries to match nearby pixel colors to reduce the blooming.
https://youtu.be/-7egEx-xDto?t=298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_I9z9HZbEc

This is Hisense RGB miniLED TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chy-5VW5Uxo

These won't carry over to monitors for a while; there's going to be some latency penalty for gaming as well.

Why is the 11900k still going for 400 dollars? Would need to get one to replace my 10900k which doesn't support PCIE 4.0. Nearly a 5 year old CPU at this point and it costs nearly as much as 9800x3d or the 9950x3d both of which I'm interested in for a new build.

>>106555753
i'm assuming we'll never get monitors like this because if they're doing 100+ inch 4k tvs, the backlight technology most likely can't be scaled down to 27" or even 32"

>>106555741
AMD cards are usually more popular, though still not /as/ popular as Nvidia, in niche enthusiast communities. You ought recall that DIY PCs are <10% of the market. Indeed, personally owned PCs are probably a mere plurality of the total in the survey; internet cafes and the like.

>>106555758
It's EoL so stock is limited - try Ebay. What are you doing with the PC btw? I ask because most anything that needs PCIe4 also needs multicore perf. so dropping to 8c might not be worth it.

>>106554792
>I'll also look into a 7900XT.
Definitely dont do that. Its an objectively worse 7900XTX and wont be getting any decent upscaling anytime soon (same with the XTX). Just get a 9070 XT and give yourself some future proofing for about the same price you were mentioning in your initial post

>>106555741
Most likely explanation is AMD doesn't make as many RX 9000 cards because they generate more profit producing other chips >>106552958
The 9070 XT's chip is almost as big as the 5070 Ti & 5080's, which sell at a higher margin.
AMD was burned badly with all the unsold RX 7000 cards they had to discount.
The majority of AMD's gaming revenue comes from selling console APUs.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amds-gaming-revenue-nosedives-48-not-expected-to-recover-until-2025

>>106555760
Smaller screens aren't the priority for RGB miniLED TVs.
They invested in the tech to make large TVs that can't be made with OLED panels, and to rely less on the OLED display manufacturers.

>>106555830
Three potential things as of right now, convert to a some sort of media server and have a decent CPU (GPU too?) to do real time encoding, keep it as a secondary standard PC because I don't want to uninstall all the shit I've setup over the years (I should create an image) or keep on using it as my primary while I wait for AM6 or maybe even that fabled new CPU from AMD - I would like to benefit for additional storage. Embarrassingly I had a non functional NVME ssd plugged in it for years that I was just too lazy to remove - though I finally did.
>try Ebay
Yeah, along with my bitching post I also took a look at ebay, some prices worse, some prices better though the better ones are all used. Unless someone was horribly abusing the CPU I don't think there should be any issues.

>>106555886
None of that sounds like it needs PCIe4. Did you buy a 500-series board which disables the M.2 slot when a 10th gen CPU is installed? If so a BIOS update might enable it - worth checking before spending any money.

>>106555365
pretty sweet deal actually
but I'd still say knock $100 of it and offer $1000

>>106555904
I did indeed do that. Good idea thanks, I'll investigate, but lately bios updates on my own personal computer are scarier to perform.

>>106551838
nothing stops UE5 stutter, not having my games on a high-spec gen4 M.2 with a 9950x3d.

Just like nothing stops a Mo$$ad bullet from killing a bad goy like Kirk.

>>106555758
Best in socket CPUs follow a bathtub curve in pricing. It was going for $200 brand new in box on amazon less than 2 years ago but you missed it

>>106555853
basically ever since sony and microsoft realised they could just raise the prices on old stock instead of a refresh they've been screwed

>>106555914
Yeah worth a look. In the unlikely event you do brick your board you can get one that works with 10th gen for less than an 11900K. Alternatively, buy a PCIe-NVMe adapter card if you have spare slots. I don't see much value in upgrading a 10900K system just yet unless you're super into UE5 AAAslop.

Dual CCD was a mistake

>>106555942
AMD's gaming revenue accounted for less than 15% of their last quarter total. That figure includes improved APU orders from Sony.
They don't even report the gaming segment separately anymore.

>>106555846
I do not care about new technologies like upscaling. I want the best performance for the price. The XTX is the best option at the moment. The 9070XT was priced too high to make any sense.

>>106556130
>The 9070XT was priced too high
>Cheapest new 9070XT is about 650
Guys like this are the reason why AMD doesn't bother to make more 9070 XT. Simply bad business.

>>106553891
Pyra is built for NTR

any 3d printing bros? did you ever print something for your pcs?
I printed a hdd caddy for my NAS, can hold 4 drives and has rails that snap to place, also a fan shroud that holds 12cm

>>106555346
>an ad for marketing 30k € tv on youtube
>shit tier bitrate to blur it all to hell

>>106556162
Top 10 GPUs on the planet:

GeForce RTX 5090
152%
GeForce RTX 4090
116%
GeForce RTX 5080
100%
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER
89%
Radeon RX 7900 XTX
88%
GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
87%
Radeon RX 9070 XT
83%
Radeon RX 7900 XT
76%
GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
76%
Radeon RX 9070
75%

transistor count is king btw.

>>106556442
wow so everyone should buy 5090 because... transistor count?

>>106556442
>transistor count is king btw.
Except the 7900 XTX has more transistors than the 4080/Super & 5080, and the 7900 XTX is slower than all three of those cards according to that "fastest gpus" post.
In fact, the 7900 XTX's GCD itself has almost as many transistors as the entire 4080 or 5080 GPU.
Inefficient.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xtx.c3941
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080.c3888
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080.c4217

>>106556473
oh this is about 7900xtx schizos
its the bestest gpu because transistors?

cant you people kys?

>>106556467
>>106556473
>>106556496
Samefag with phone and desktop. At least hide your user agent and writing style next time. New sharty extension makes it easy to spot.

>>106556162
Yes, that's the price now. It was 800+ at launch. The XTX is still a better choice.
The sales numbers speak for themselves, and their market share reflects that.
The nvidia_price - 100 is not that smart, the base 9070 was DOA.
>Bad business
Hopefully they learn something from this (they won't).

>>106556576
>Hopefully they learn something from this
AMD will focus on selling mainstream gaming APUs in the future and leave dGPUs to the more profitable high-end cards.
They've already merged the financial reporting for the client (Ryzen/Threadripper CPU) & gaming businesses.
Maybe AMD will make some entry-level gaming cards if there's enough OEM demand.

>>106556562
>At least hide your user agent
Lmao. Expose this info. for all three of those replies. Right now.
What a sad cope.

>>106549510 (OP)
Can someone recommend a half-decent low budget (150-300 USD) 1080p monitor? Mostly for media consumption and internet browsing. Preferably larger screen than 25 inches. I don't really play any fast-paced games, so a gaming monitor is not a priority to me.

>>106556814
For 200 bucks you can get a 27 inch 1440p monitor

>>106556562
>New sharty extension
Hmm? What is this

>>106556814
>1080p monitor
>Preferably larger screen than 25 inches
The MSI Pro is a workstation monitor with high response times.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z2jv6h/msi-pro-mp275-e2-270-1920-x-1080-120-hz-monitor-pro-mp275-e2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dqytt6/asus-vg279qr-270-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-vg279qr

Thinking I should build one of these just to piss you guys off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdf9TpdYv80

>>106556945
>building a shit pc to "own the libs"
uh...have fun i guess?

new bake nigger ?

>>106556375
I wanna get into it but I don't know much about it and it sounds like it could end up being pretty expensive. How much would you say is a good amount for a setup on it

>>106557191
Current printers are extremely beginner friendly and not even that expensive. You don't have to level the print bed manually anymore and shit like that.
Grab a Bambu A1 Mini, it has 180x180x180mm build volume, plenty if you're starting out and you can grab a bigger machine later if you like it.
For filament (the stuff you feed into it to print with) you can just start with "PLA" (i recommend aliexpress, brands like sunlu or yayo, because the quality is good at half the price than other places)
And you don't even need to learn modeling (it's useful tho), there are insanely big repositories of models from where you can just download stuff.
Many people just buy a printer and print a door stop and that's it, but the utility is very good, eventually you'll get used to "wait i can just print this", the HDD caddy I printed would've costed like 20-30$ in a store, and I printed it for like... 3$ of filament at max

>5070ti & 9800x3d build arriving in a week
>want a 1440p monitor so badly
>almost 2026 and oleds are still nearly 1000$
fuck.... do i just go for a IPS 27"? i have a 24.5" benQ VA 360hz panel atm, used to play esports games and osu but with my new build i wanna play more solo focused graphic heavy games... what do

>>106549510 (OP)
>High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
These compatible with a MSI B450m- m2? I need my games to load faster.

>>106557561
you have 4 video ports. use two monitors. one 4k tv for gayming and consumption, one 1440p monitor for actual desktop usage.

>>106557575
why wouldn't they be? you don't need high end for faster boots by the way.

>>106557575
They will run at PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 instead of Gen 4x4, but I would still buy these over a Gen 3 drive.
Storage is something you can carry over to a new PC.

has fancontrol been fixed yet?

windows security just hit me with the bs trojan detection on file: C:\Program Files (x86)\FanControl\FanControl.sys

>>106556162
>borderlands 4
>20 fps on a 9070 xt at native
You would have to be retarded to buy a 9070 xt or and amd card anyway

>>106557688
>>106557688
>>106557688

>>106557674
What you talking about willis?

>>106557561
>do i just go for a IPS 27"?
This is the value play, find 2~3 27" 1440p monitors you like and buy one when it's discounted.
If you don't mind VA panels, buy the M27T6 miniLED if it's available in your region.
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27t6-review/

>>106556637
>AMD will focus on selling mainstream gaming APUs in the future and leave dGPUs to the more profitable high-end cards.
are you claiming that they'll stop making gpus entirely?

>>106558109
AMD will only make the higher margin discrete gpus in the future.
They can already make an APU with a six core Zen 4 CPU + mobile RX 7600 GPU.
These APUs will only get better and eventually displace lower margin video cards.