Thread 106573026

armsissies....

>>106573026 (OP)
ARM is the future.

>>106573033
ARM is the future.of trash.

>>106573026 (OP)
phones are now faster than some mid range laptops

>>106573052
phones got 10GB of RAM

>>106573033
future of kiked (((smart))) devices that will cuck the user into oblivion.

>>106573062
MacBook performance destroys any other laptop on the market.

Every wojak poster will be casted from the pearly gates when the time comes, after being personally skinned alive with saint Peter's rusty key

>>106573026 (OP)
It wasn't originally a RISC core. The 8086-386 was actually a cisc processor.

>>106573740
I'm sorry, what I meant was
8086 all the way until Pentium Pro (P6) was CISC.

>>106573052
try running that phone at full load and enjoy your 30 minute battery

>>106573069
no it doesn't

>>106573033
Same thing I heard 40 years ago.

>>106573052
>Windows 10/11 is so heavy that phones are now faster than some mid range laptops
fixed

>>106573740
It's a CISC processor, it doesn't matter if it uses a RISC interpreter under the hood the only important thing is the number of instructions and yes, modern ARM is not RISC either.

Waiting for RISC-V to git gud

>>106574576
at it's core it's RISC you may argue that old ARM with it's Thumb mode fuckery isn't RISC either

>>106574606
RISC vs CISC is false dichotomy.

>>106573026 (OP)
x86 in laptops are always shit no matter how much amd or intel improoves them, their architecture is just not for laptops or anything that runs on battery. I'm tired of paying 1000$ for a so called high tech laptop just to burn my lap and die in 2 hours. Theres a reason everyone buys a macbook nowadays cause there is not proper alternative

The only difference in RISC vs CISC is that CISC allows memory operands in data processing instructions, and guess what was added in Armv8.1?
CISC won.

>>106573753
Until 386 as pure CISC, 486 and P5 had some modifications AFAIK and with the introduction of P6/Pentium Pro/K5, x86 is a CISC-on-RISC.
>Post 1980s RISC is far more advanced than the original true RISC, and a lot of companies were adapting advanced RISC designs to interpret more complex instructions like x86, that's why there were a lot of x86 'clones' during the late 1990s.

>>106573026 (OP)
Your move x86issies

>>106574813
>Useless rock tied to apple hardware and locked down by a shitty OS
You aren't even playing the game

>>106574813
>a microarch designed to be balanced between TDP, single core, multi core performance and cost isn't the best in single core
No shit! too bad Apple can't interconnect their cores properly to scale performance because their designs are unbalanced.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M3+Ultra+28+Core&id=6569
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+9+9950X3D&id=6549
>16 beating 28 cores even if the apple cores have better ST performance

>>106574879
>>106574822
kek

>>106574822
>>106574879
>lose in single core to a phone lol
>win in multicope
lol k

>>106574917
>Quasimodo briefly outperforms a balanced cpu in a synthetic benchmark that last half a second to not activate thermal throttling

>>106574917
>can't run more than one program at a time
>can't compile code
>can't run unapproved software
Useless to all non iToddlers

x86 getting its ass kicked by a phone lmao
>ADD MORE CORES
>ADD MORE COPES
>ADD MORE ROPES
kek
losing to arm phone cores crazy shit lmao

Boosting tf out your phone for half a seconds seems to be really effective to get free publicity from iToodlers
*2 months afterwards new update underclocks the phone to hide battery wear*

>>106574879
M3 Ultra is 2 generations behind

Arm is taking over on laptops now, desktop is the remaining x86 stronghold.

id shill for risc-v before arm arm is old now and being phased out cause no one wants to pay the arm jew royalty fees

>>106573026 (OP)
AArch64 was introduced in 2011. 32bit ARM is a completely different ISA. "ARM" referred to both the company and the cpu, which had led to some confusion.
>>106573740
Actually the argument of x86 being RISC internally applies even more to the old cpus. The micro-code in the 8086 is quite literally a RISC instruction set.

>>106573069
ekhm, limited software support, poor thermal design, brittle design overall, glued shut, no i/o, upgrading specs costs fortune.

>>106573033
>>106573038
A stacked hybrid is the future.
t. knower

>>106576420
It's the newest Ultra on cpubenchmark. The M4 max is a joke.

>>106577649
and it uses the first gen 3nm, it doesn't have LPDDR5X and arm SVE instructions,
A19 is the 3rd gen 3nm. the M5 Max/Ultra will obliterate everything

>>106574879

idk why did you compare binned M3 Ultra and 9950X3D
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6549vs6580/AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X3D-vs-Apple-M3-Ultra-32-Core

>>106577862
You're right, I should compare 32 vs 32 cores
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+Threadripper+9970X&id=6820

>>106577882
>350W TDP

>>106577882
kek, $5500 armshit still loses to $3500 x86, applel just cannot compete

>>106577974
>$3500 x86
forgot about ram and motherboard?

>>106578018
That's why I put a $1000 margin on the $2500 processor for, iShill.

>>106577952
post TDP of the Ultra 32

>>106573026 (OP)
The real problem with x86 is that no one but Intel and AMD gets to use it

>>106573058
>phones got 10GB of RAM
And 8GB is in use just to run Android. Completely meaningless. Also, all the performance gains by ARM cpus over the years have been wasted on running Java.