Thread 106576716

>Not a single mention of the supposed smarter Siri that was supposed to be out last year
I remember when IBM was too big to fail back in the days. The lack of a useful assistant will be the death of apple.
Nobody asked for a thin phone. Go buy OpenAI before it’s too late.

>>106576716 (OP)
IBM is not dead, nor will Apple.
As for sales, yeah, it might be a disappointing year coming for Apple, but, I think they will survive that easily.

>>106576716 (OP)
Building a business around phones that only Americans are excited about at a time when you can get phones in every imaginable configuration from China is ridiculous.

>>106576741
It’s not dead but it failed.
Here’s a thought experiment: would you invest all your savings on IBM shares today or 30 years ago?

>>106576716 (OP)
no one wants AI garbage

>>106576716 (OP)
Steve would've fixed this.

>>106576806
Sour grapes

>>106576773
because this situation now is IBM 30 years ago, and not right now, or something

>>106577096
cheap clones killed IBM, no one can clone apple phones and macs

>>106576773
By 1995 IBM had already lost OS wars. And it was not looking good. So, no, not in 1995.
But, today? It might be. It might not. I'm not good in stocks.

A more question would be 1985 vs 1995? In other words, sensing of demise of IBM PC as competitors and PC clones appear vs sensing that, this is not the end of it all, IBM will shift strategy and stock price will rise once again.

So, to circle back to your question. Actually, one might buy IBM stock in 1995 if he could predict that the price was lowest at this point and IBM had better future plans.

Once again, I'm not good in investing.

>>106577114
>every company has to fail for the same reason

>>106577114
Hahahahahahahahahahaha, okay.

CRASHING THIS COMPANY

>>106576806
literally every zoomer i've encountered lives and breathes AI now
they literally cannot live without gpt thinking for them and being their "bestie"
every one of them also mocks iphone's Apple Indian attempts at doing basic shit like fixing photos
apple is a dead company walking

>>106577907
so install chatgpt app on your phone?

>>106577907
holy fuck its so fucking over

>>106577907
applefanbois will cope somehow.

>>106576716 (OP)
>>106576773
>>106576811
>>106577854
>>106577907
iTODDLERS BTFO

>>106577907
Apple uses on-device AI, the other two don't.

>>106578114
Jeetdroid shill can't understand

>>106578114
>on-device AI
based
is it possible to do this on a pixel? would disconnecting the internet force it?

>>106576716 (OP)
I'll never buy shitdroid and there's millions like me. People are happy with Apple devices and will buy them for the rest of their lives,

>>106577907
You should stop rubbing shoulders with zoomers. They're vile, defiled creatures devoid humanity and purpose.

>>106578138
no

>>106578154
fuck. what about with grapheneOS?

>>106578163
there is only some very limited local AI support on Snapdragon-based phones

>>106576716 (OP)
>Do something nice, by providing a new product for y’all
>Stock value plummets.
Gee, thanks guys! Kinda wish I hadn’t bothered you ungrateful shits. Maybe no one can have any phones now? Oh, you don’t like it? Well too bad you ruined it for everybody. I’m just going to sit in the UFO and refuse to sell you anything, seems like you only complain if I do anyways. So yeah. That’s on you.

>>106578114
Here’s your on-device AI, bro

>>106578234
siri has always been online only

>>106578247
No it hasn’t.

Apple toddlers can’t catch a break

>>106578148
>said the iNigger
the ironing
you iNiggers are literally like zoomer boomers, the worst of every world
you lived through the infancy age of technology growing up and should have learned how to use it but instead you're technology illiterate troglodytes just like zoomers

>>106578478
Kek calm down zoomie, don't we all get to troll once in a while?

>>106578478
>zoomer doesn't remember the Android tattoo craze
Tattoos are gay, period.

>>106577142
IBM just rides the indices like driftwood. They were already old when they went public in the 60s. It was never a 'tech stock' in the way Apple or Microsoft was.

>>106578654
Nice 2001 era iPad bro

>>106578654
sovl

>108 billion
Out of how many trillion? Poorfags are so endearing.

>>106578234
>>106578247
>>106578280
OOOF
BTFO

>>106576716 (OP)
>Go buy OpenAI before it’s too late.
Sure, why wouldn’t I put my money into the biggest speculative bubble a short time before it bursts. Is thinking really too hard for you?

>>106576716 (OP)
>muh ai
use case?

>>106582114
I've been hearing this AI "bubble" to be bursting in 2 weeks for 3 years now. When does it happen?

>>106582277
1-2 years is what almost all the ai companies can stretch their cash
barring some fundamental architectural improvements every ai company is hosed, with the sole exception of google and maybe openai if they can monetize muh ai gf subhumans because they can be served with monkey models

>>106582277
When we hit agi

>>106576811
He couldn't even fix himself
How's he going to fix (You)

>>106582277
six months ago

Good riddance.

>>106581156
Aren't They valued at like 3 Trillion? 100bn is about 3 percent of that. Pretty normal variance, IMHO.

>>106577854
I am sick and tired of smoothbrained retards sucking his dick.
He was a dickhead who stole all of his ideas from others, including his OS (Xerox Alto). And the only reason he was successful is because he abused the hell out of his employees.

Sodomy has done zero for the improvement of tech. In fact, the faggotry makes everything worse.

Meanwhile the 17 pro max is sold out everywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsIJjycgyLM

When you go Bharat
You don't use toilet

>>106583867
I'm ready to admit that this plan didn't work out for the best after all.

>>106576716 (OP)
> I remember when IBM was too big to fail back in the days
IBM is currently a 200B$ company.

Great example you fucking retard.

>>106576741
>17 Pro Max models sold out until next year
>Disappointing sales

>>106576716 (OP)
Apple hasnt innovated since iPhone was unveiled. Its insane

>>106584059
its a furniture company
youre looking at things wrong

>>106584059
>one of the most valuable companies in the entire history of humankind
>they're completely wrong!

list some innovations they needed for the 17 pro, actual innovations not meme features like a stylus or a headphone jack

I should be able to plug the iPhone 17 Pro into a monitor and have a full desktop macOS experience. The hardware is more than fast enough..

>>106584122
>>one of the most valuable companies in the entire history of humankind
so was enron, retard

holy fuck the absolute state of appo fanbois
appo selects for the most retarded of the bunch
bc thats how you can sell dogshit products at exorbitant prices

>>106584144
If you think Apple is cooking the books you should report them and bring the entire company down (as well as all the big accounting firms that audit them around the world).

>can’t list a single “innovation” because he’s a 90 iq schizo shitskin with delusions of grandeur.

They need to rangeban India.

>>106584122
Its a phone that plays music, has camera and takes pictures/videos. This hasn't changed for nearly 20 years. They have no other innovative product.

>>106576716 (OP)
I wonder how much they would have lost if they had not unveiled the iPhone 17.

>>106584173
>redditspacing
lolle

but for arguments sake, its not cooking the books which created their valuation
its speculation
like with most if not all publicly traded companies

>>106584197
>its speculation like with most if not all publicly traded companies

it's completely relative, they are considered one of the most valuable companies in the entire world within this very speculative market. In fact, they aren't benefiting from the AI bubble that is over valuing other stocks.

>>106584181
>They have no other innovative product.
Which innovative product are they missing from their product line? They perfected the phone, tablet, laptop, smart watch and laptop years ago.

>>106584250
>they are considered one of the most valuable companies in the entire world within this very speculative market.
theres nothing relative about that statement
they have an ROI of 10 years.
a construction company has an ROI of one month. let that sink in

>>106584250
>Which innovative product are they missing from their product line
The word "innovative" means its a new product that doesnt exist or hasnt taken off. So its a new thing that the world hasnt seen or knows about. Asking what innovative product they're missing is missing the whole reason.

>>106584283
roi of 10 years is completely standard in the business world

>>106584319
>i can't think of a single thing they are missing but i just know they are missing something
lol

>>106584335
no
its normal only for hodlretard boomers who invest in housing then get fucked by inflation

>>106584401
>The average return of the U.S. stock market is around 10% per year, adjusted for inflation.

please stop posting

>>106584430
yeah
and
a) youre supposed to beat that
b) you get your investment back when you sell giving an ROI of 0 seconds
c) redditspacing retard bc for some reason the biggest d&k's of this board come from reddit

>>106584468
>you're supposed to beat the market because...because you just are ok!!

lol
lmao

>>106584547
thats quite literally the bar to clear or go home
if you do average market returns you are as efficient as a monkey which picks investments at random

you know shit from fuck, why you keep talking?
what the fuck is wrong with your head?
you clearly, internally know that you know shit from fuck
why you keep talking?

>>106584131
I think this may exist in a few years, at least on Apple monitors.

>>106584430
>he really has no idea how the stock market works
embarrassing

>>106577907
why the FUCK would anyone want fake, AI doctored photos of themselves?

>and here's a photo of me at Hulk Hogan's wrestling match in Valhalla, I remember it like it was yesterday

me? im uhhhhhh sticking2apple

>>106576741
IBM does not have a consumer business (sold it off to Lenovo). They sustain themselves with building literally anything business customers ask for.
What does apple offer outside of it's consumer products? Nothing these days. They put all eggs in one basket and the only thing that would've made them money in the long run if done well was canned for good after 10 billion fucking dollars were spent on it (the apple car).

>>106583476
so 2027

>>106584131
>let me carry a keyboard and a mouse and a monitor instead of just a macbook pro with a much more powerful SOC and more RAM

>>106588080
NTA. You don't have to carry them. The place, you are going to might have them available for you. So, what he was proposing, it is not really something unattainable.

>>106576716 (OP)
>siri drain my balls every 1 hour and 15 minutes indefinitely
>no response
it's unironically over for apple.