Thread 106585071

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 12600KF budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27QA, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106575715

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Should I connect the 4-pin power cable to the CPU slot as well as the 8-pin even if it doesn't need that much power?
I'm wondering if it's similar to GPUs, where you want to use two separate 8-pin cables rather than the daisy chain, where you spread the load over more cables.

MO-RA Chads how we doing this weekend?

>Whhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Sorry what's that aircuck/aioslop? I can't hear you over those loud fans!

>>106585184
>I can't hear you over those loud fans!

Any of you guys had something like pic related?
When I reboot my computer (only after sleep) it randomly complains that the memory has been swapped.
Also, it never happens when powering off/on. Only on reboot.

I've contacted MSI and they told me there should be a serial number there. Do you guys believe it might be because of that, or is it common for DIMMs to not report a serial number?

>>106585138
Almost no hardware uses the extra 4pin

>>106585284
its probably msi bios issue and the customer support is gaslighting you

I would like to take this time to complain that I am only getting .5 fps on my video upscale using a 5080.
Apparently a blackwell pro and threadripper build can get 1 fps.

I just finished tuning my ram and I can feel the difference just moving my mouse on the 4chan website

>>106585284
reflash your bios.
seems like some kind of weird bios bug. I have never heard of that before.

>>106585294
I know that it isn't necessary. What I'm asking is whether it will help with heat generation in the cables.
I have the 4-pin cable to hand anyway, so should I just use it? It's low stakes but I already have the part.

>>106585362
based nanosecond enjoyer

>>106585362
placebo effect is real

what are some good closed back headphones with good passive sound isolation? Roommates are driving me crazy with their noise

>>106585316
>customer support is gaslighting you
I'm afraid that might be the case, but the RAM is not in the QVL so I don't have much say.

>>106585363
>reflash your bios
I have updated it many times and I have reset it's settings.
It happens even with XMP/EXPO disabled.

>>106585441
get active noise cancelling headphones, ear buds, or iems.
just having closed back isn't going to solve the problem.

>>106585362
I just finished tuning my ram and now I'm able to count 66 seconds in a minute from the extra speed

>>106585442
try using a different kit of ram to see if it still happens. It really seems like a defective motherboard.

>>106585380
>>106585388
I think I shaved off 20ns off stock. I can definitely feel it.

>>106585489
post your zen timings screenshot

What's the difference between all the Thermalright AIOs other than them having RGB fans and screens on the pump housing? Are they all good or are some bad? Their website is atrocious

>>106585362
no you can't
but i'm proud of you anyway

>>106585184
>42 degrees
>full load 500W +
HOW

>>106585501
donate to my patreon

Has anyone tried putting a 4090 pcb into a 5090 shell to create the smallest 4090? is that even possible?

>>106585535
almost all AIO are using the same patents and parts, regardless of brand. most differences are fan size, fan number, rad size, white/black, RGB, and cpu block screen/shape.
that said usually you buy the largest radiator/aio that your case can fit on the top or in the front.
(you want the AIO rad to be higher than the cpu block)

>>106585777
Just go open loop dude.

>>106585839
nigga i wanna do science, not plumbing

>>106585864
Look up cooler and PCB photos and measure whether they fit? It's no rocket science

>>106585777
are 5090s even significantly smaller?

>>106585890
Its really the width

>>106585441
tell Chad to keep the plapping down

>>106585658
>BIOS 3.20
It's over

Does 2x16GB or 2x24GB run the same performance wise on AMD 9800X3D if both CL30?

>>106585991
Assuming same megatransfers and CAS latency yeah.

>>106585441
>Roommates
you need to stop spending money on a hobby, there are other things you need to fix

>>106586016
I'm living with roommates to save money, I can save roughly $2000 a month this way compared to when I lived alone.

But I also hate it and it's eroding my mental state, getting closed backs with decent isolation instead of the HD599SE which is my daily driver but an open back will I think allow me to continue and not break the lease early from hatred and anger but be able to continue living here and saving

theres no game worth upgrading my 2020 build for. Im still playing TF2 after all these years

>>106586029
are you the renter or the rentee? or all you all rentees to the og landlord?

feels good being a renter I can rent out to single desperate milfs or uni students

>>106586050
480hz or 500hz oled. now.

>>106585658
unimpressive

>>106586057
i have a 165hz monitor and I cant really tell the difference between 60
and yes I made sure the monitor is set at 165hz in windows and in game and on the monitor itself

>>106586086
vaxx status?

>>106585488
I wish, but I had to buy it.

>>106586050
bossado
I get you, the newest game I've played was Darkest Dungeon II, otherwise goofing around in TF2 with my mates

>>106586014
What about 64 GB?

>>106586050
>Im still playing TF2 after all these years
i literally never understood the appeal ever. I tried it a few times and instantly disliked everything about the game, it felt cheap, kiddy, and the guns handled like cartoon weapons, in a bad way.

If you like that slop, no wonder you don't find anything new worth playing, you're an autistic pig in his trough.

If you think that's bad niggas out there still playing WoW

>>106586114
its just a fun game I can jump into and quit whenever I want. Its not competitive like marvel rivals and overwatch

>>106586114
you had to have played it on release, you had to be there
it was fun

>>106586113
you'll struggle to find 64gig kits with the same specs as 32/48, but they're out there.

5090 FE in stock in my country
never seen this before
2200€
Cheap!

>>106586148
2007 was 18 years ago...

>>106586133
>>106586148
>Its not competitive like marvel rivals and overwatch
>it was fun

i say that about the custom modded WC3RPG servers on CS:S, that was the most fun a man could have playing a good fps, the raging at the scout-heroes flying around in the air, the zany powers, the invis classes, it was glorious fun.

>>106586222
and nobodys made a good alternative in 18 years

>>106586232
never played CSS desu

>>106586212
>>106586113
2x16 and 2x32 are A bin, while 2x48 are M bin. A bin is slightly better. Just make sure they're CL26 or 28

How can i rule out that my GPU is cause of stutters/frametime spikes?

I have 5070ti and im having stutters, spikes in frametime which are causing freezes.

I already ran fumark 1080p and the max usage was between 96-97%

i just want to be 100% sure to rule out that gpu ain't problem. so far i think that there is an issue with my mobo b850 aorues elite wifi7 - there are lots of info regarding latency/stability issues on these boards, but i have last day in gpu return window so i got to be sure.

Please help me guys :D

>>106586332
are you playing a UE5 game?

>>106586268
If you've played 1 CS variant you've played them all to an extent, i preferred CS:S but im biased. The modded servers and the super-powers and hero classes were the foundation for games like Overwatch, that also took inspiration from TF2 to be fair. Except none of them came remotely close to how much fun the WC3RPG servers were.

I'm still mad nobodies ever ported the servers/mods over to CS:GO/CS2.

>>106586332
is your motherboards bios fully updated? Have you enabled EXPO or XMP on your ram?

>>106586332
Furmark isn't a realistic workload. If you have something like 3dmark, or can run an in-game benchmark, you can better gauge performance issues related to actual gaming. But you're still going to have trouble nailing down exactly what's causing a given issue unless you can start swapping out components.
Make sure everything is plugged in correctly, as well. For some reason lots of people have issues with this.

>>106586363
you had TF on hl1 engine and on quake before TF2

>>106586332
What games? Basically all ue5 games regardless of hardware (outside of maybe a processor from 15 years in the future) will stutter out the ass.

>>106586308
This is for AMD, so shouldn't I look for CL 30?

max fidelity super booster enhancer

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkHrkf
PCPP estimated wattage 1102W
the 5090 is there to simulate a worst case scenario power draw. I don't plan to OC the CPU but will do so with the GPU
will also slot in a used HBA card in there in order to run the drives
should I go for a 1600W unit in order to futureproof or is it way too overkill?

>>106586332
it's nvidia

>>106586433
6000 MT/s is ideal for AMD unless OC-ing
the lower the latency you can get the better
Captcha: DDR04

>>106586489
also 8 more of those drives for a total of 18. Estimated power draw will shoot up an extra 160W

>>106586100
3 boosters plus 5 post covid optional boosters

>>106585991
2x24gb might be slightly slower
I think it has a longer tRFC timing by default because of it's higher density

Bought a 650w PSU for 5060 Ti PC
Now i think i might be able to buy a 5070, will it be enough
>Ryzen 7 7700
>5 SATA HDDs
>1 SATA SSD
>2 M.2 SSD
>DVD-ROM if it'll fit into the PSU budget
>32 GB RAM
>6 fans

>>106586100
2 weeks :(

how do you stop being a waitfaq?
things I'm waiting for
>white rgb ram 2x64gb 6000
>5070ti 24gb
>Phanteks Evolv S2 white

>>106586332
It's the gpu. If you wanted better frametimes you need an all AMD pc with radeon gpu and ryzen cpu

>>106586681
When do you retards give up? Shilling team red clearly isn't working, no one is buying them

>>106586681
>2400x1080
>watches video in 240p

>>106586681
Not so fast...

>>106586644
Plug your parts into pcpartpicker. There's a wattage calculator.

https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/news/nvidia-optimization/

never seen anything like this in my life

>>106586917
https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/news/amd-optimization/

oh shit amd too

>>106586917
>>106586927
>x4 af (or just none) recommended for most Nvidia gpus
Hmm? Is just manually setting every game to 16x when I can raping my performance without me knowing it? I thought this shit was solved like 20 years ago or something?

>>106586917
>4k
>5090
>dlss perf
>4x frame gen
>fps 60+

>>106586985
AF has a 1 FPS impact at worst. Those charts were made by someone who has never touched a video game in their life.

What are my options for 3440x1440 ultrawide 240+Hz monitors?
No IPS because of its shit contrast and panel glow

is it safer to use an ATX3 PSU with a dedicated 12 pin cable plug? or does it still have the same problem of potentially catching fire?

>>106587118
several lg woled panels and some qd oleds

B650M Asus or B840M Gigabyte? Both are basically the same price

>>106587198
always asus over gigabyte

>>106587150
>or does it still have the same problem of potentially catching fire?
As far as I'm aware the conflagrations stem from not plugging the connector in all the way. So it shouldn't matter. Plus everything now has the revised connector with the longer pins, so it should be even less of an issue.

>>106587232
ignore that image. was for but realized it didn't directly address the issue. >>106587198

>Air isnt enough for my needs I need watercooling for the better thermals and silent running!
>Puts 30 fans in it anyways.

>>106587287
You know you can run fans at a low speed right anon? You are running Aquasuite right?

>>106587337
Shave your hands nasty ass cave man

How are EVGA NVIDIA GPUs? Compared to something like ASUS ROG STRIX?

>>106587537
nonexistent

>>106587552
I am buying used.

>>106587565
I'm not sure buying used condoms is a good financial investment.

>>106587599
>he cums inside his gpus

>>106587610
>not taking advantage of free liquid cooling
ngmi

>>106587537
It was shit, very high GPU failure rate.

Need some recommendations for a new monitor.
>27 inch OLED
>240hz or above
>1440p
>glossy screen
>650 bucks budget
I'm not sure if I want QD-OLED but I'm open to suggestions.

>>106587537
My evga 960 is still running strong over a decade later. They were the best of the best.

today's the big day
oh boy oh boy oh boy

It's here, the endgame.

>>106587724
you need an RTX 15090 to run this shit

Question:
I have a corsair 4000d airflow with a 7700x and a 6700xt.

Problem is I have outgrown the case and I need to upgrade. I need space for 6 x 3.5" drives, and one 5.25" drive.
Considering:
-phanteks enthoo pro
-define 7 XL
How would the thermals be on these compared to the 4000D?

Or if anyone has a better idea for a suitable case.
T.I.A.

>>106581178
So the RTX 5070 will be obsolete soon when the eternal dev goes over 12 GBs?
Why would i buy a 5070 if I have to downscale the resolution? Is the 5060 Ti 16 GB better for future proofing then? I just want to play on the 1440p monitor for 5-7 years

>>106587708
Grats bro, show us some work in progress pics.

My new mobo only has 4 SATA ports. I need 5 atleast. Any good pcie SATA adapter? As long as I get SATA 3 speed nothing else matter.

>>106587708
>gpu, ram and mobo same as me
my nigga
good luck anon

>>106587814
I will, but expect it to be slow

Was trying to buy 5060 Ti 16 GB but logistically, i might either go with a RTX 5070 non Ti or downtier and buy a B580+B850 gaming plus. Which makes more sense?

>>106587773
I think the Enthoo Pro would be better thermally but both are acceptable. With that said, you don't need a new case you need a NAS. Outside of the obvious advantages it'd probably be cheaper too.

>>106587939
Yeah that's probably smartest, unfortunately I have a rag tag collection of different size HDD's, so I'd have to upgrade those for it to make any sense I think.

>>106587975
You don't actually need to run RAID on a NAS but I understand. They're both great cases, if a little dated, so just go by aesthetics/price/availability.

>>106585071 (OP)

I have a
Ryzen 5 2600 + whatever mobo it came with (no ram)
Gtx970

All for $5

I think I might have an old PSU I picked up from random scrap builds kept at my parents place but not sure if they'd be safe to use. (Picked up cheap for a few dollars off people)

Realistically, how much would I need to put in this to get a functional computer to play older games like warcraft 3 or things pre say 2015. Or GBA/older console emulators etc Mainly for my nephew

>>106587724
how is that "8k"? it's just two 4k panels as an ultrawide

>>106587801
You're not playing anything at native 1440p unless you get a 5090 or completely nuke all other settings besides resolution kek

>>106588016
4k times 2 is 8k dumbass.

>>106588019
Is there a DLSS problem on the monitor end? Is the 5060 or 5070 unable to play 1440p?
If so, what do you recommend besides waitfagging?

>>106588005
Case, RAM, storage, and PSU. Could probably get the case from a recycling centre and the rest for <$200 depending on your local used market.

>>106588027
you need 2 more nigga

>>106588047
I recommend giving 1440p + DLSS a shot because it genuinely makes cards like the 5060Ti and 5070 viable in unoptimized modern AAA slopware like UE5 shit

>>106588016
The {N}K naming scheme just means that the largest dimension rounds to {N} * 1,000.
Not every screen is 16:9, but then it's not ideal because most are so they can use it to trick stupid laowais.

The GPU I bought didn't come with screws to mount the radiator and I only found that out mid-build. Can anyone recommend something I can take M3 screws from?

>>106588119
it literally has no way of attaching the fans to it?

its fucking ridiculous that to upgrade my CPU, RAM, GPU and mother board is 1000+ dollars. My first PC of similar performance class was 700 dollars and that had a case, power supply and storage on top.

Where the fuck are 200 dollars GPUs. Why is there no replacement for an rx 470

>>106588119
>M3
Anything 3.5" HDD related? like 5.25 to 3.5 mounting brackets?

>>106587708
uhhhhhhhh...
if I plug my power supply in, in order to ground my static wrist strap, is the fan supposed to turn on in it?
or with the fan only turn on when connected to the PC?

because right now, I have nothing to indicate that this PSU even works
no fan, no indicator LED, not even a faint hum going through it when I plug it in

>>106588149
>Where the fuck are 200 dollars GPUs. Why is there no replacement for an rx 470
200 bucks GPUs are now 500 bucks just like how a 2 euro Doner Kebab in 2017 costs 5 euro today

>>106588168
Fiatfags should be beheaded
IP should also be revoked and Njudea should fire their legal team and actually work to make better chips

>>106588005
>warcraft 3 or things pre say 2015
That's quite a gap, but these CPU/GPU should indeed be able to handle even the latter fine.
A 450W PSU will be enough if no upgrades are expected.
Case you could probably get used dirt cheap if not free, just make sure it has okay airflow.
For storage, get a 500gb+ SSD but make sure either that the mobo has an m.2 slot or that the SATA one you're buying has dram cache.
RAM: 16gb of DDR4 no higher than 3200mhz. Used is fine.

>>106588186
>actually work to make better chips
Why? They have no competition.

>>106588149
They could but why would they? The public has shown that they will pay any price asked so there's no point in selling something for less when you will always pay more.

>>106588167
I don't think the fan would be moving unless the computer is on. You shouldn't be hearing anything from it.

>>106588197
>IP should also be revoked
Property neccesitates scarcity

>>106588142
The fans are already on the radiator, and the screws have a straight shank to clear the fans and then just enough of the threaded part to attach them to the radiator.
It's the holes on the other side, where I would mount the radiator to the inside of the case, that I now have no screws for.
If those screws I do have were threaded all the way I could use half on each side, but they aren't.
>>106588150
I do actually. I have an absolute heap of Fractal Design screws for the >6TB 3.5" HDD adapter. The thread fits. The head is a little big but I think it will be flush enough for the filter to go back over everything. Thanks man.

Sleeping my PC is fine, right? The rumors of ASRock mobos killing CPUs, particularly in sleep mode, are just because people are statistically buying more ASRock mobos than any other brand because they're dirt cheap, so if an AM5 CPU dies, it's most likely in an ASRock mobo, right?
I've been monitoring my voltages and they're very normal.

>>106588005
>>106588196
Oh and "how much" -- again, depends, but you could probably do even <$100 if you really had to.

>106588210
Sorry, meant:
>Scarcity neccesitates property

>>106588209
okay, thanks
I just wish I could be sure that I was grounded

>>106588219
Pretty much definitely fine.
Sounds like typical non-technical person superstitious thinking. "Well I saw a reddit post where this happened to a guy" sort of stuff.
Unless you see firmer evidence, ignore it.

>>106588230
Just touch your case every once in a while. If you aren't rubbing a carpet with socks on you have nothing to worry about.

>>106588205
I dont think majority of the public is buying these new 500 dollar ""budget"" cards

One of the battlefield 6 devs said a substantial number of players were playing on something weaker then Ryzen 5 2600 and RX 5600XT.

>>106588230
>I just wish I could be sure that I was grounded
Don't sweat it too much. Just touch something metallic before you start and don't rub your feet on shag carpet or whatever and you've already done enough. PC components aren't THAT sensitive.

>sell i7-7700K + Z270 + GTX 1060 6G for ~$400
>buy i5-14600K + B760 + RTX 4070 Tis 16G for ~$2000
>new GPU makes my eyes bleed
>buy shitty-ass 1060 3G for $50 just to get by while fixing it
>compare it side to side with 4070 TiS
>nvidia niggers enabled dithering by default
>the subpixel behavior (colors) is different and disabled dithering enables back after 30s timeout
>clamped down on BIOS tools & signed firmware so it's nearly impossible to force this shit off in Ada Lovelace

I will have to go back to fucking Pascal again. Should have just bought 1070 Ti and new NVME and be done with it. Would have saved myself $1500. Fuck my life.

>>106588263
autism

>>106588263
Can someone translate this to human speak for me? What is it saying?

theres nothing worth upgrading too still :(

>>106588323
It means I can play 3 hours of Tower Dominion, followed by 2 hours of gooning and polished up with 3 hours of Wendigoon videos on Pascal but on Ada Lovelace my eyes bleed after just 2 hours because NVIDIA changed shit they shouldn't have in new gen of GPUs.

>>106588353
Never has been. Waiting is eternal. I get far more pleasure from waiting and anticipation than I would if I pulled the trigger. At this point I feel like giving in would ruin the entire experience. Part of me hopes my current build lasts me until I die.

>>106588364
I don't know how a gpu is changing the shape of your monitor pixels but ok sorry that happened.

>>106585071 (OP)
Is it a good idea to get a 5080 to play most newer games at 1080p?
I want really high frames, since I have a 280hz monitor.
Indubitably many of them wont even reach 200 even with framegen on, but mine is a genuine and honest question.

>>106588379
it's temporal dithering. The subpixel thing is a different matter, which is configurable.

you're not gonna believe it bros, but I actually finished step 1

>>106588398
Sure but you'll still have to turn down settings. I suggest starting with shadows those are always very taxing. And wait for the super refresh.

>>106588400
Well I've never seen anyone else complaining about it or even acknowledging it as a thing. Guess you have super human eyes.

>>106588409
kek

>>106588409
My target would be 150ish frames if possible, anything higher would be nice.
Only few games from some years ago will reach 280fps.

>>106588402
Where is your thermal grizzly cpu cover?

>>106587645
look for deals, but all the cheapest oleds will also be the ones with the worst firmware with the dreaded cucked 16h auto refresh and so on
maybe wait until bf at this point? maybe

>>106587724
>ultrashort
>hva
>endgame
imagine trying to match 1000hz and VA it can't even handle 240hz
they need to increase verticality too, ultrashorts are just bad
uw 45" looks way better

>>106588364
based schizofrenic dithering enthusiast

>>106588370
waitfaggin is a symptom of poverty, I've researched it and it's mechanisms

>>106588418
I'm not him. If you go looking you'll find complaints about it dating back a decade.

>>106588457
waitfagging is a symptom of there being no games worth upgrading for

>>106588398
There's no point in going past a 5070 for 1080p. Jumping from that to a 5080 you'd typically only be seeing less than 30% gained, usually more like less than 20%.
If you're using framegen that's a fairly easy target to hit with quality dlss.

>>106588474
you can buy a 83" oled and a 5090 and run vintage games at 16k res

>>106588457
>waitfaggin is a symptom of poverty, I've researched it and it's mechanisms
Not always true, I have the money and could buy a primo system right now if I wanted to. But waiting for the next jump in technology feels better than buying into the 5000 series would feel.

>>106588484
theres not gonna be a next jump in technology. We are at the limit of die shrinks so they cant do anything else but shove more power into existing cards

>>106588494
We're going from 5nm to 2nm, that's going to be a pretty big leap.

>>106588503
define "pretty big leap"

>>106588484
>But waiting for the next jump in technology feels better
either stemming from not caring and being content or being poor
if the first, you are not waitfagging

>>106588494
next drops will be a node shrink not like they can go 600w+ more next time

>>106588503
no its not its 3nm.
going from 22nm to 14nm is a big leap

>>106588507
30-50% source my father is Jensen

>>106588507
You'll be able to get stable 30fps in monster hunter when you aren't fighting monsters.

>>106588507
you can fit 2x the transistor count so in theory 2x the speed but in reality there will be cuts somewhere

What are good Motherboard producers since the recommendations in OP still just go "don't buy ASRock if AMD", not really sure what one to go for

>>106588612
they are all the same

>>106588612
I'm an MSI fanboy, they have never done me wrong. But really it's just a gamble, any of them can fuck up. You just gotta hope you didn't lose the lottery. Most of the time you'll be fine with any choice you make.

>>106588398
>>106588427
you are overkilling it with a 5080
at least go 1440p

>>106588612
You have to do your own research. AM5 is a mess with the various board models and how they split lanes even within the same tier.

>>106588612
Asus is the winner in terms of bios support

>>106586789
I did

>>106588612
They all are terrible.

is there going to be a 9050 from AMD?

>>106588168
>>106588186
Just like $3.50 minimum wage in 1974 is equal to $23.00 an hour minimum wage today.

am i retarded for still using a 1080p monitor? my 9800x3d and 5070ti build is arrving HOPEFULLY this coming week. I wanna play more graphic heavy games looking forward now, is 1440p goated? how is general web viewing & movies/youtube at 1080p on a 1440p monitor? better or worse?

>>106588149
As long as Nvidia's datacenter division does 1000% profit margins you'll never get cheap hardware.

>>106588892
On one hand you basically aren't gonna be wanting for performance since your ceiling is going to have extravagant amounts of headroom from the lower resolution. On the other hand it depends on how sensitive you are to pixel clarity/density for detail, and whether you already prefer anti-aliasing and upscaling to cover for any pixel shimmer and flaws at lower resolution stuff. If you're happy as a clam right now it isn't really a priority certainly, a lot of people genuinely consider highly resolutions a bit of a performance-eating meme, but I can't really judge for your eyes when mine are so fucked up as is. Take a look at a tech store or some portion of the local Best Buy / Wal-Mart, get an eye for comparing resolutions there.

>>106588402
still going
I'm at the part now where I have to connect enough cables so that I can test it and make sure that everything works so far

>>106588858
early next year

>>106588892
yes 4k tvs are cheap now. so are 1440p monitors. ktc 10bit color 27" 1440p is like $150

>>106588892
What FPS are you trying to play at?
Gaming at 1440p should get you ~100FPS on high settings without DLSS, but with DLSS likely ~120.
With higher pixel density, you should be golden on movies and youtube depending on the content quality.

>>106588119
all the aios i've bought came with screws
you can buy them at home depot/lowes tho also.

>>106587773
build a nas

>>106588938
idk ive been playing The First Descendant locked at 60fps with a lot of settings turned down and it looks pretty bad, id prefer to get atleast 120fps but like if i could max out all graphic settings at 1440p with DLSS and stay over 100+fps id be more then happy. Ive yet to experience dlss though been sitting on my old 1080ti for 8~years

>>106588934
> ktc 10bit color 27" 1440p is like $150
not available here:/

>>106588925
>Take a look at a tech store or some portion of the local Best Buy / Wal-Mart, get an eye for comparing resolutions there.
might just do that, but im in europe. Hopefully some computer stores have 1440p monitors to try/see. ty!

>>106588167
most fans now just turn off below a certain pwm signal, most psu have their own regulator thing that turns the fan on, usually only under high load.
PSUs also don't turn on without something connected to the 24pin connector slot. (you have to jump those to use the PSU standalone)

The 9050 needs to have 12GB of VRAM

>>106589032
It's going to be 128-bit 8GB PCIe4x8 and you'll like it

hello, friends
it's me again -- the absolute retard

1. why does my motherboard have two different CPU power plugs?
2. I need to use both of them, right? (I'm sure that this sounds insane, but I seriously cannot find documentation anywhere)
3. does it matter which plug in my PSU I plug them into? There are three different plugs on it that all say CPU, with no indication of which one (if any) is primary.

>>106588402
You forgot to install the Contact and Sealing Frame. Don't whine if your CPU dies.

>>106589121
typically you only need one unless you're doing extreme overclocking
any plug on the psu that the cables that come with it fit should work

>>106589169
thank you sir

>>106589168
if I die, then remember me

>>106589062
AMD and nvidia cheaping out on PCIE lanes is the evilest thing. just punishes people with old motherboard

>>106588961
It was a used item. I ended up using some spare HDD mounting screws I had. Worked great.

What is it about 4k that makes it such a mountainous hurdle? I would understand if it's new technology but it's been around for at least a decade now and it feels like we are no closer to being able to comfortably deal with it.

>>106588930
Do you really have to do that? When I built mine I just put the whole thing together and turned it on. That's what all of the builders on youtube videos I watch do too. What are you testing exactly?

>>106589203
A quite sudden 4x increase in pixels, without a equally sudden 4x increase in computational power (on top of the normal increases that keep up with new features.)

>>106588930
Is it safe to do that without a cooler on your cpu?

ngl my next PC is going to be built for GTA6 and seeing how badly borderlands 4 runs gives me zero hope that any current hardware will handle GTA6

>>106589211
Why do we need all those pixels? Our eyes can't even handle 1080p.

>>106589228
>GTA 6
It's obviously built for the 6090.
Better start prepping your email accounts so you can win the lottery and get one at launch.

>>106589228
I never had hope to begin with consider R* insanely shitty record with PC performance. People complain about borderlands having issues in 4K, my 3070 can only barely play GTA IV at 4K and that's an almost 20 year old game.

>>106589208
I'm following the LTT 2024 guide. You don't really have to test it, but it's just a precaution, because testing it now (while it's still out of the case) would make it a lot easier to fix something if I find out now that it's not detecting a drive or a RAM stick or something like that.
I suppose that it might be excessively cautious. I don't know. I just don't want to screw anything up because it's my first time building a PC.

>>106589212
For like 20 seconds, yeah. Supposedly.
I was still going to try to attach the cooler if I could, and only test it without the cooler if I had to.

>>106589203
memory speed is the bottleneck and memory is finally getting fast enough for it with gddr7 and soon ddr6.

>>106589301
you think corespeed is the bottleneck?

>>106589203
4K is a lot of pixels. For displaying content that's fine. Shit we used to SSAA everything render at 16K and downsample it to 4K for buttersmooth AA.
Ray Tracing broke everything. UE5 came along and fucked things way way way worse. Devs love it because it saves them time and is easy to use. Players and hardware hate it because it runs like total shit. The hardware is not strong enough to run this shit not in real time, so we get upscaling and fake frames.

WE NEED MORE TRIS

>>106589121
werent you supposed to plug both if it has both regardless of overclocking?
im pretty sure theres an online manual for this thing by just googling it, i remember reading it for updating the bios with flash back, if you do flashback you connect the power only on the first connection, but im pretty sure it says to connect both plugs when you use it

>>106589234
Depends on distance, but yeah, I agree that at the very least 1440p is effectively transparent, at least for me. That said, that's with corrected vision, so probably not quite 20/20 even with glasses.
The post asked why 4K was difficult to handle though, not whether it made sense to try and handle it.

>>106589249
That is a bit unnecessary, but for your first build you should just do whatever you need to do to not feel bad about the PC.
Chances are you'll do completely fine and have no issues, and if you do have issues remember they're near universally fixable.

>>106588930
installing the cooler will probably be the hardest part, but still should be pretty straightforward and easy-ish.
hope it turns out well

>>106589407
no i dont want more vaseline smeared games

>>106589409
some motherboards don't even have the extra plugs. its only if your cpu pulls retarded wattage

>>106589444
I took a break for dinner and thought about it some more. I've been inspecting the parts all along. Everything is brand new and looks great.
I think I'm just going to assemble it in the case and take the 0.001% chance of a manufacturing defect somewhere.
If I have to pull it all out and start troubleshooting, then that's what I have to do.

>>106589513
Still haven't found documentation on it, so I'm going to hope that this is right.

>>106589542
I did some research and anon is correct, you really only need 1 but theres two caveats:
1.you better make sure the cable is connected on the slot labeled as cpu power 1, I think where you connected it is the correct one
2.theres no harm in plugging in the second cable, it really is just for retarded power draw from overcloking but also theres no drawback from having it connected
so if it tickles your autism, plug both

>>106587279
Its really. Not that loud.

>>106589582
Shall plug both.
Right now, I'm looking at all the holes and spots in the case that I'm supposed to know what to do with, and wondering what the fuck I've done.

>>106589620
maybe i'm going deaf in old age, but modern computers are so insanely quiet, i don't get how people even hear them.
i usually use headphones though still.

>>106589407
the human eye can't see more than 10,000 triangles in one scene

PSU orientation:
I have pets and live in the woods, so my house usually has dust or pet dander or pollen in it.
Will it be worse for the PSU fan to pull in dusty air from outside of the case, or to suck in warm air from inside of the case?
I know that the fan isn't really intended to act like a supplementary case fan. I'm thinking more about the health of the PSU itself.

>>106589794
Never mind. Because of where the screw holes are set, and how few there are, it looks like my decision has been made for me.

a pretty generic build punching for "wants to be high end but isn't quite there", i figure. may still fish around for other options, cheaping out on a motherboard may not be a great call and i'm still not too sure on matx but they're less obnoxious than full atx prices at the moment.

>>106588892
1080p is literally from 2006 or 2007.

The only people playing on it at this point should be esports lan event gaymers

>>106587103
with those settings you end up at 240+

>>106589844
you should be cheaping out on the mobo though? as long as if support all the slots you use at full speed and not burn your cpu

Had to remove the topmost case fan in order to make room for my AIO's big dumb radiator.
Had to cut some zip ties and unplug a bunch of stuff to get it to come out.
Now, instead of just going with the manufacturers cable management and getting to just plug everything in and have it work, I have to rewire the fans.
Yay.

How do earn enough money for a 5070 ti? Especially since 5070 is planned obsolescence

4k60hz oled for general purpose use or 2k240hz oled for every day use?

>>106590126
jerk off punks for 15 dollars a man

>>106590142
I don't think you can even buy an OLED with a refresh rate that slow outside of TVs

>>106590147
And where do they earn the money to buy a 5070 ti?

how do you guys deal with new pc cases have like only 2 usb slots on the front, when older cases had like 4 to 6? is a usb hub a good investment for peripherals? is that even a thing? looking for recommendations.

>>106590126
Eat one less meal a day, bonus you'll lose some extra weight.

>>106590168
I don't really use temporary USB devices that often so never bothered me.
Usually I get the big name computer company hubs, like Lenovo, HP, dell, etc. though even cheap stuff usually all work fine but most of the chink XXGXIN GONG DO "brand" shit just looks horrible and is flimsy, and cumbersome connectors

>>106586489
get higher capacity drives mate

>>106590041
My radiator might be 1mm too big for my motherboard.
Getting ready to shoot myself.

>>106590226
Put it in the front, big guy

>>106590226
it's ogre

>>106590226
Just slice off a little chunk, that stuff at the edges doesn't do anything.

>>106590239
There's even less room in front.

>>106590251
I don't have any tools to start adjusting the fit.

>>106590298
Just buy some sandpaper and apply some good ol' elbow grease

>>106590298
Wouldn't really think a full-size Phanteks case would have such an issue.
>Top Radiator Clearance
>60mm thicc
>Please note that the Liquid Freezer requires at least 63 mm of clearance for installation
>basement blocks the front from having a longer radiator
rip

Unless you can mount the fans on the outside, or offset the mount internally, you're going to need thinner fans.

>>106590337
I no longer trust that I am getting good advice.

>>106590375
>you're going to need thinner fans.
Or a new case.

9070xt status?

can't find a damn 5700x3d at a reasonable price for my last AM4 purchase

>>106590399
doing surprisingly well

>>106590425
>5090
>1440p
>medium
>can't even reach 120fps
I think it's time to admit that gaming has gone down the wrong path. We need to burn everything down and start over.

>>106590425
>sell the game with nvidia cards
>oops you can beat all but the very best risky shit for half the price with the competing brand, on potentially the worst optimized game in modern history

>>106590435
5090 gets filtered hard by badass even
its now a 1440p ultrawide 60fps gpu

>>106590450
>45 FPS on a 5090 for a game that looks no better than borderlands 2

>>106590226
>>106590375
>>106590383
Managed to offset the radiator horizontally so that the motherboard can come up behind it vertically.
Not sure how, but uhhhhhhhh fuck it, we're gonna go with that.

Also, the motherboard's IO panel is bigger than the metal tabs on the hole than it can go out on the back. Not sure what to do there.
If it were any material other than metal, it seems like I could just snap it in.

THE HUMAN EYE CAN'T SEE MORE THAN 10 BIT

I've been stunlocked by MoBo/RAM compatibility with multiple returns for the past couple weeks. Can someone please just spoonfeed me something that they know 100% works. I can't be fucked dealing with all this AM5 incompatibility stuff anymore. I just want something that works

Here was my original list. I want 64gb of 6000 CL30 ram with whatever the fuck mobo will actually run it

The original combo (B650 X AX V2 + Corsair Vengeance) isn't supported on their site and it's like a massive coinflip whether it works according to things I've read, and I no longer want to deal with return-spamming

>>106590529
get 6000cl30 ram from gskill
i think corsair's a-die ram arent as good from the single sample of 6000cl30 2x32gb kit i tried from them

>>106590504
This is what I mean about the metal tabs on either side -- the long one on the right, and the three smaller separated ones on the left.
Surely the answer isn't just that I bend them back with pliers. Surely.

>>106590504
Good luck you got this, going to bed hope to hear some successful news in the morning.

>>106590552
I looked into that, but the G Skill line (at least, that's listed as compatible - I know the list isn't exhaustive but still) is all like 3x the height of Corsair and I've already had to mount my CPU cooler's fan higher on my previous board because of giant ass ram. Kinda wanted to get a smaller stick this time

It was gonna be my last ditch effort since I'm pretty sure it'd work, but honestly I'm more tempted to swap the motherboard over the ram

>>106590573
The issue i had with the corsair ram was twofold. It barely ran the rated xmp and with almost zero undervolting headroom at that. It also couldnt be overvolted too far from 1.4v because it got unstable really quickly. i think they have issues with binning good a-die or they didnt validate their ram with any voltage/stability margin, at least on that one kit I had

Anyway I've only tried dual rank 32gb 6000cl30 sticks on asrock and asus and they've both been fine. Not sure about gigabyte or msi. But if you've been through many combinations of boards and ram, maybe the issue is with your cpu's memory controller

>isn't supported on their site and it's like a massive coinflip
The good thing with 6000cl30 ram is that it can only be one of two die types, hynix 16gbit m-die or hynix 16gbit a-die so its alright if the ram part number isn't on the QVL if it has this expo/xmp spec.

How do I check what die type my RAM is using?

>>106590590
>The good thing with 6000cl30 ram is that it can only be one of two die types, hynix 16gbit m-die or hynix 16gbit a-die
Isn't G. Skill's 6000 CL30 32gb line all Samsung, not Hynix

>>106590625
Samsung does flat 36s and can't do cl30

>>106590566
Is it even supposed to go through the hole? Or is it meant to just sit up against those tabs?

>>106590618
If you have Corsair, Kingston or gskill, you can check the label pasted on the ram sticks to see the die revision

>>106590649
I have Teamgroup RAM

>>106590639
Gigabyte is full of shit then

>>106590618
Typhoon Burner / Hwinfo64 summary tab can maybe identify but not all ramkits will say what ram it is.

Another way is taking off the heatspreader and looking at the physical chips.

You can also do the TRFC test. For example Hynix A-Die will boot under 400 at 6000mhz. M-Die, Samsung, and others wont.

>>106590659
I've seen gigabyte and Asus get the die type wrong so I would take their qvls with a grain of salt
Anyway 30-40-40 sticks are usually older xmp kits that contain Hynix m-die which is similar to A-die but was manufactured on an older process node and can't run clocks as high as A-die does. I've heard it can't run timings as tight as A-die too but haven't seen anything to indicate that

>>106590667
M-die does better secondaries (except trfc)
A-die does better primaries

>>106588370
This is an insanely retarded way of thinking your mum should have swallowed

>>106589168
The contact frame doesn't do anything at all for AM5 stop being retarded cunt

>>106590752
Uh oh stinky, sounds like someones got a case of the regrets. That 5080 not doing the trick for you lil buddy?

>>106587724
TLC showcasing 1khz monitors is mostly just annoying since it shows samsung/lg dont have anything real blocking them from making 1k hz OLEDs but they're drip feeding incremental upgrades each year.

>>106590770
OLEDs already work at a limit on voltage, how do you think they pulse 1khz refresh rate?
Increasing refresh rate without redundancy of materials is not possible yet.

>>106588370
I understand this konfu now. Getting top tier GPU what did it for me, 3rd year and counting, I have absolutely no reason to get anything new, I will use upscalers if I must next 4 years.

>>106590820
they already have oled pixels changing at 720hz
what are you even talking about

>>106590839
tandem one, that's my point, they pushed everything they could to make it survive at least 3 years without burn in

>>106590849
burn in is cumulative effect of the pixels being on for thousands of hours
if the pixels changing color was relevant they'd go "use this 500hz monitor at 60hz and it'll last forever" which they dont.

>>106590852
okay I'm stupid. why do they make it 1.000hz? 960 is more logical, x16 of 60.

>>106590859
its arbitrary
lg made 480hz panel to say they're the fastest and then samsung made 500hz one to say they're the fastest then lg made 540hz panel to say they're the fastest then they made 720hz mode for 720p to say they're even fastesterest

>>106590878
>>106590859
Well there's also a real technical bandwidth limit even with the highest DSC ratio to refresh rates and every resolution. I really want GPMI to catch on.

These are my EPS connectors (CPU power cables).
The sockets on both the motherboard and the PSU match the shape of the connectors of the one on the left. But because the connectors with tapered corners can still fit into square sockets, either end of the cables can fit into either recepticle.
Still, the difference in shape (and also the fact that the one on the right seems to be able to split into two halves, has "CPU" printed on it, while the other one has neither of these features) makes me think that they are different.
Can I plug each end of the cable into either part? Or does each end YouTube connect to one of the two parts in particular?

>>106590921
theres some room to stuff in more hz for dp 2.1

>>106586332
I had a wireless mouse from glorious that was causing terrible stuttering on my pc. It could be something other than your gpu/cpu causing it.

>>106590971
>YouTube
*need to
thanks autocorrect, very cool

Buying a B650E/B670E board since I want the PCIE5

On Amazon in my country, I've got these listed roughly around the same price:
>MSI X670E Gaming Plus
>ASUS X650E-F Rog Strix
>Gigabyte B650E Aorus Elite X AX
Which is best? After a brief lookup, they all seem to have varying talked about issues. MSI seems to boot slower, ASUS has Armory Crate shit, and while I haven't seen much about Gigabyte, I just returned a couple products to the only company selling the Gigabyte one here so they might be fags

>>106590971
Never mind, I found it. The end printed with "CPU" connects to the motherboard.
The dumbest, slowest PC build ever continues.

>>106591075
Gl, anon. Do keep us posted if you encounter some dead ends

>>106591044
Get an ASRock and be like chuddha and believe that nothing will happen to your CPU

>>106591131
I would if it wasn't literally double the price of all the other mobos here boss

>>106591075
What >>106591105 said.
It's probably a good idea if you haven't gotten very far yet to build the system outside of the case on your motherboard box/wrapper and make sure it werks before you put everything in the case. ALSO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE CASE STANDOFFS, don't mistaken put them in the position for M-ATX sized boards if your motherboard is a regular ATX size or vice-versa since most cases have mounting options for both these days to maximize compatibility.

>>106591135
Damn I got an ASRock despite the rumoured issues because the B650M-H/M.2+ or whatever (typed it from memory) was easily the cheapest AM5 mobo on a decent chipset available here as an open box

>>106591075
suddenly, me spending my free time researching shit and reading manuals for the last 8 months doesn't seem like a waste anymore
still, good luck anon, we believe in you, remember to take breaks

>>106591075
Also if you're gonna have to mount M.2 stand-off screws, do so before mounting the mobo in the case. Boofed it one time and it cost me like half an hour

>>106591044
>MSI X670E Gaming Plus
>ASUS X650E-F Rog Strix
>Gigabyte B650E Aorus Elite X AX
I'm assuming you meant the B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE ?
>Which is best?
The MSI has 4 NVME slots while the others have 3 so I'd lean to it unless one of the others is much cheaper.
Newegg is good for spec comparison breakdowns of mobo models:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=13-145-500%2C9SIA24GK9E9607%2C13-119-604&compareall=true


>>106591145
Just make sure you've updated the BIOS as Asrock has put out several recent firmwares to address the issues.

>>106591238
Since that post I actually found an MSI MAG 850 cheaper than them all so it was kinda a no-brainer
Thanks though friend

>>106591248
Cool.

>>106591105
A link to some webpage showing how to reconnect case fans would be appreciated. Like, which connectors go where, how many each fan needs, etc. If that's even something that's standardized.
I disconnected some to make room and forgot to take a "before" picture.

>>106591141
The case came pre-installed with all nine of the standoffs my board needed in the right positions.
However, I only screwed screws into eight of the nine, because my screwdriver isn't magnetic, so I didn't feel confident and being able to get the last one. Will I still be okay without that last one screwed in? The board feels physically stable without it.

>>106591163
I've been doing that since April, and I still thought that I was way more prepared than it turned out that I was.

>>106591168
>half an hour
lol
lmao, even

>>106591168
yeah, fuck those things, honestly. everytime i have to swap out an M.2 drive it's like ohhh boy here we fucking go, gonna have to get the GPU out, find the one screwdriver that fits the tiny screw, hope the standoff screw doesn't get unscrewed in the process, etc etc. really makes me appreciate my SATA SSDs.

>>106591349
M2 is lowest common denominator shit that's adopted because of laptops
We could have gotten u.2. and u.3. instead to have sata styled nvme SSDs but nooope

>>106591263
Your mobo's manual covers that. Lemme look it up

>>106588400
>The subpixel thing is a different matter, which is configurable.
>configurable
How?

>>106591375
the fact that it's such a small form factor but takes up its entire area on the motherboard is also retarded

>>106591263
>MSI FAG X870 manual
https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGX870TOMAHAWKWIFI_English.pdf
>page 50
CPU_FAN is self-explanatory and SYS_FAN are for every other fan. The connectors only go in one way so you can't fuck that up

>>106591406
>CPU_FAN is self-explanatory and SYS_FAN are for every other fan. The connectors only go in one way so you can't fuck that up
Sorry, I actually meant the cables that connect the fans to one another. The case fans came pre-wired together from the manufacturer, but I had to move one and take out another altogether from the little daisy chain of fans they had set up.
And I can't just plug everything back together until there are no more things left to plug, because now there's one fewer fan in the loop.

This probably isn't a very helpful picture.

I guess I should start connecting everything else that isn't a fan connection, just to reduce the number of options.

>>106591378
for some baffling reason, under windows, it is entirely relegated to ClearType settings, which not every program will necessarily honor. Why they don't actually expose it in a way people who care about things like that will be looking for is a mystery.

>>106591440
>ClearType settings
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
>Why they don't actually expose it in a way people who care about things like that will be looking for is a mystery.
NVIDIA still doesn't expose dithering settings in their control panel apps.

>>106591433
Yup, you should leave the fans and SATA data connectors (the L-shaped plugs) for last

>>106589168
I don't get AMD heatsink design. Why the serrations? Is it supposed to double as a saw in postapocalyptic scenario?

>>106591457
Will do.
I thought that I wanted to get the fans squared away earlier because the space was restricted and was only going to get tighter, but I see a better way to arrange it now.

Also, thanks everyone who's respond to me. It has really helped to talk through stuff, even when I'm starting with a really dumb idea.

>>106591433
from what I've seen it usually goes
>24 pin first
>cpu power
>front i/o (front panel, audio, usb3, usbC)
>cpu fan
>pump connector if needed
>sys fans
>(g)a(y) rgb (if you have a lot of rgb then you connect the fan header or controller first even before the sys fans)
>gpu plug
>any sata connections as needed
Hopefully you got some velcro to tidy the cables as you go

Am I a retard for considering one of those boards with the soldered laptop cpu on it? I know it's entirely un-upgradable, but I generally don't upgrade my cpu anyway.

Anyone with a 9070xt, any issues with it?
Crashes or noticeable bad performance on certain titles?
I have a 2080 and I really want to upgrade, been looking at 9070xt 5070ti and 5080 but I've noticed a friend having constant crashes with AMD.
My 2080 has basically never crashed, can at least be sure it has not crashed all year long with games running on it 24/7 and I want that to continue with a new GPU.

>>106591131
Nothing ever happens anyway

strongly considering just becoming a medium end gaymer, no games are worth having such an expensive PC for.

The label on the bag that came with my graphics card (Gigabyte 5070ti) is very insistant that I only use this black 12v-to-double-PCIe cable with it.
But my PSU came with its own yellow 12v cable and has a dedicated 12v socket, which, if I used it, would leave the other sockets open for other things.

How crucial is it really that I use only Gigabyte's favorite cable and no one else's?

>>106591685
They can be stingy with warranty if you use the PSU cable and happen to fry the connector but I don't think the 5070 ti has enough power draw for this to happen unless you have a really bad cable.

>>106591685
use the yellow tipped msi cable anyway

I put together a parts list for a friend and gonna build it later this week... it's for CS+streaming, did I fuck up?
>Ryzen 7 7700
>32GB DDR5 6400CL32 (2x16)
>WD Black SN850X 1TB
>RTX3080 (used)
>Arctic LFIII Pro 240
>MSI B650 Gaming Plus WiFi
>Jonsbo D41
>Seasonic Core GM650 (25% sale)
>2x Arctic P12 Pro fans

>>106591685
technically the double pcie to 12v is safer but I agree with the other anon, use the msi cable

>>106591685
Same as >>106591702 and >>106591703 said
Make damn sure you fully plug it in both ways, that's what the yellow markings are for

>>106591723
actually it's the G12 GM650, they have three different GM650 models for some reason (Core, G12, Focus)

Okay, now I'm completely confused. The only connector that I can see coming out of my AIO is that little 3-pronged thing coming down from the radiator (top-left of the green MSI logo).
But it doesn't match with the cables that were in the box, and those cables don't match what was in the manual (https://support.arctic.de/en/liquid-freezer-iii-pro-360-argb, under "installation," bottom section.)

Cable picture to follow.

>>106591816
So what am I actually dealing with here?

>>106591816
that's the ARGB connector

>>106591831
So I have to uninstall my radiator and search around it to try to find connector for the fan and pump controls, don't I?
Except I've already been looking around the sides as best I can, and I don't see anything else.

>>106591860
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
It's just in the side of the pump.
Looks like this retard train keeps rolling.

>>106591876
Don't you have access to the motherboards manual with a graphic that has all connectors shown? ARGB connectors tend to be in the vicinity of fans.

>>106585071 (OP)
>KTC H24T09P, KTC H27T22, KTC M27T6, KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
How much are they paying you

>>106591908
I have both manuals (online). The issue was trying to find where those thin connectors on the cables hooked up. The motherboard manual doesn't cover that end of the cables, and the cooler's manual/webpage thing just skipped right past that part.

>>106590750
>primaries
interdasting so thats why buildzoid's latest timings have primaries at 30-36-32 which is really tight

Thinking of buying this sai apc pro gaming ups to protect my pc during blackouts (happen semi regularly where I live, western europe)
Any anons got experience with it? I'm more concerned about the idle power use, don't wanna add another potentially multiple dozen watts on top "just in case"
Thoughts ?

I think I have everything except for the case fans hooked up.
But it just occurred to me... where is this AIO system getting its power from? Is it pulling from that big 20-something pin connector on the side of the motherboard? Or did I miss a cable?

>>106592112
since your mobo has a pump header, use that

>>106592142
For whatever reason, I just cannot wrap my head around that little connector being enough to power it. Not after all the stuff that I've had to plug into the PSU. And once again, the manual just skips right past it. I'm supposed to just already know.

>>106592155
How many case fans did you daisy chain at most on one cable? Just making sure

>>106592217
unless you are using those >3k rpm fans, each fan usually draw below 2w, so max 6 according to your fan header spec

>>106592217
I just have the three fans that are connected to the AIO's radiator hooked up to the motherboard right now.
I have three other case fans that came already hooked up together in the case, but I still need to reconnect them (because I had to rearrange them) before I hook them up to the motherboard.
I'm actually going to do that part tomorrow. Calling it for tonight.

Thanks for everybody's help. I honestly couldn't have gotten this far without you guys.

>>106592228
Ah, fair. Guess I was being paranoid
>>106592299
Gn, buildanon. Have a good one

Looking good.

>>106591932
>KTC H24T09P
This was recommended by an anon and well reviewed.
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-h24t09p-review/
The other 2 miniLED monitors provide the best value for money.

I had a quick skim over a few videos and posts of people suggesting to undervolt x3d chips. In many instances performance actually slightly increases and temperatures are significantly lower. But are there any actual downsides to this? Surely there's some caveat like reduced stability or long-term "wear and tear", else AMD would have them run undervolted from the factory.

>>106591723
>>32GB DDR5 6400CL32 (2x16)
CPU might not run that speed @ the optimal 1:1 UCLK:MEMCLK mode.
If the above mode isn't possible, downclock the memory speed to to 6000MT/s and change the primary timing to something generic for that speed, like tCAS 30 - tRCD 40 - tRP 40 or 30-38-38 (tRAS can stay @ auto).

>>106593146
>>106593146
>>106593146

>>106593192
>reduced stability
This is a real issue, depending on your workload.
Don't copy people's -30/-20 all core CO. Some cores may run unstable at those levels.

>long-term "wear and tear"
You're instructing the CPU to request less voltage than the factory spec, which improves longevity.