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Anonymous No.106621110 [Report] >>106622393 >>106622545 >>106622559 >>106622599 >>106622716 >>106622742 >>106624261 >>106624394 >>106624476 >>106625433 >>106625773 >>106628122 >>106628126 >>106629995 >>106631941 >>106633857 >>106633875
Why won't they add WEBP support to 4chan?
https://x.com/GrapeApe9k/status/1967823045755830547
Anonymous No.106622194 [Report] >>106629943
honestly this is the tweet that makes me think the half nigger dox is real
Anonymous No.106622229 [Report] >>106622591 >>106624358 >>106625773
webp shouldn't exist.
Anonymous No.106622393 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
based. what he should do is mandatory auto-conversion to lossless JXL
Anonymous No.106622545 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
Based GrapeApe, I kneel.
Anonymous No.106622553 [Report]
webp proliferation should be criminal
Anonymous No.106622559 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
Thank you, GrapeApe.
Anonymous No.106622591 [Report] >>106622604 >>106622619 >>106623876 >>106624855 >>106625814
>>106622229
Should webm?
Anonymous No.106622599 [Report] >>106625363
>>106621110 (OP)
What about .tiff ? I'm still waiting for that.
I will boycott 4 chan until I get .tiff and animated .tiff format.
I need this to post my x-rays to /meds/
Anonymous No.106622604 [Report] >>106622657
>>106622591
Webm is just as bad.
Luckily mp4 is now supported and we can carry on.
After webp started cropping up, I switched back to .gif everywhere.
Anonymous No.106622619 [Report] >>106623168
>>106622591
.webm is just a container, you can put whatever video codec your heart desires in there.
Anonymous No.106622657 [Report]
>>106622604
>i switched to gif
niggas is crazy
Anonymous No.106622716 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
Because webp is gay.
Anonymous No.106622742 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
How the fuck do you even need 'support' for webm?
Anonymous No.106623168 [Report] >>106626246
>>106622619
>.webm is just a container, you can put whatever video codec your heart desires in there.
UM AKSHUALLY
https://www.webmproject.org/docs/container/
Anonymous No.106623876 [Report] >>106624286 >>106630012
>>106622591
webm offered a substantial upgrade to user who were still still using .gif for short animatics.
webp offers zero advantage to the users, it even makes their life 10 times more complicated because of the lack of support. Only so the jewish fanwiki owner can save 10 extra cents per month.
Anonymous No.106623957 [Report] >>106624179 >>106630496 >>106631905
RapeApe + gookmoot are the final line of defense against the rest of the mods which are literally all troons. They are scared to cross the ApeGOD too much but once he or gookmoot leaves the site will become just a hangout for troons before/after their discord child grooming sessions
Anonymous No.106624179 [Report] >>106624247 >>106625714
>>106623957
Considering I got a two day ban for pointing out that Trump is a pedo I have serious doubts.
Anonymous No.106624247 [Report]
>>106624179
Trump is a pedo, and that's a good thing
Anonymous No.106624261 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
because this site is in maintenance mode based on the sharty hack.
Anonymous No.106624286 [Report] >>106624307
>>106623876
>because of the lack of support
All of my apps and websites support webp EXCEPT for 4chan. What are people using that doesn't support webp—a 2008 version of Sony Vegas?
Anonymous No.106624307 [Report] >>106624326
>>106624286
people who use more than their iphones and toys
Anonymous No.106624326 [Report] >>106624357
>>106624307
Let's start with some examples of incompatible software, as originally enquired!
Anonymous No.106624351 [Report] >>106624380 >>106624390
webptards are annoying
no you don't need more than png, jpg and h264
Anonymous No.106624357 [Report] >>106624414
>>106624326
It's not about compatibility, it's about usability.
webp has no reason to exist, it doesn't improve the user experience, it doesn't compress better than other better formats and it's really annoying when the internet has been using png and jpg for decades.
Frosch !!vBXGOUbKnuP No.106624358 [Report]
>>106622229
This. Every time I see it I get physically ill.
Anonymous No.106624380 [Report] >>106629663
>>106624351
>jpg (even webp)
>4:2:2 chroma subsampling
>png
>wildly inefficient zlib compressed pixel data
>h.264
>still patented
>worse compression than VP9, AV1, which are both patent free with Google Jew Lawyers to fight off any claim

You're a fucking retard.
Anonymous No.106624390 [Report]
>>106624351
h264 doesnt have alpha channel
Anonymous No.106624394 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
avifs won, anon
Anonymous No.106624414 [Report] >>106624425 >>106629686
>>106624357
>it doesn't compress better than other better formats
False
Anonymous No.106624425 [Report]
>>106624414
Anonymous No.106624476 [Report] >>106624497
>>106621110 (OP)
webp is garbage created by Google. Its gains are minuscule and only became popular because Google blackmails companies with their CEO tactics (if you are not using webpiss, we will not put your website in the front page)
Anonymous No.106624497 [Report]
>>106624476
SEO*
Anonymous No.106624855 [Report] >>106625745
>>106622591
webm does not really exist. Its just mkv.
Anonymous No.106625363 [Report]
>>106622599
based
Anonymous No.106625433 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
Mods not being a faggot for once. Webpoo is indian trash
Anonymous No.106625714 [Report]
>>106624179
>troon mods defending one of their members
Checks out, actually
Anonymous No.106625745 [Report]
>>106624855
it's heavily restricted mkv
Anonymous No.106625773 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
>>106622229
JPEG doesn't support transparency. WebM, AVIF and JPEG XL do.
Anonymous No.106625814 [Report]
>>106622591
vp8 was a reasonable video codec at the time because it was the best royalty free could do. Then things improved, we got vp9, and there was zero reason to use vp8 for video ever again. vp8 was always always always a shitty codec for still images. It should not have existed in the first place. But it definitely shouldn't exist now. Also note that animated webp doesn't use vp8 interframe coding, it's basically just a series of still images.
Anonymous No.106626246 [Report]
>>106623168
I misremembered being able to put h264 and h265 in .webm, my bad
Anonymous No.106628122 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
because it needs to die
Anonymous No.106628126 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
based
Anonymous No.106628224 [Report] >>106628263
Webp is obsolete, just add avif.
Anonymous No.106628263 [Report] >>106628279
>>106628224
Avif is obsolete, we need JXL
Anonymous No.106628279 [Report] >>106628294
>>106628263
JXL is a disappointment and is a bloated mess. I bet it has bunch of security implications.
Anonymous No.106628294 [Report]
>>106628279
I prefer it over avif just for the lossless function alone, everything else is just a bonus.
Anonymous No.106629663 [Report]
>>106624380
>jpg (even webp)
>4:2:2 chroma subsampling
hhhh wut? they should both support 4:4:4 just fine, at least half the jpegs you encounter on the internet are 4:4:4 in fact.
Anonymous No.106629686 [Report] >>106631407 >>106631851
>>106624414
true
https://siipo.la/blog/is-webp-really-better-than-jpeg
it's only 10-15% more efficient at best, which really doesn't warrant its existance.
it only performs significantly better when compared to outdated jpeg encoders from two decades ago, mozjpg and jpegli are both impressively good encoders.
jpeg was lightyears ahead of its time and improving on it is still difficult to this day, jpeg-xl is the only modern codec that makes sense considering that it can losslessly re-compress legacy jpegs while further reducing filesize AND keeping the possibility to re-convert it back to the original jpeg, again, losslessly.
Anonymous No.106629713 [Report] >>106633898
bro graperape just convert it to another format its 2 lines of code
Anonymous No.106629736 [Report]
Just implement JPEG XL support so people understand what I mean when I say jixel files
Anonymous No.106629943 [Report]
>>106622194
It's real, but it's old as fuck and he's probably moved by now. It's from way back when he fucked with /a/ by banning everyone who tried to gatekeep narutofags.
Anonymous No.106629995 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
Sh*rty lost to an ape
Anonymous No.106630012 [Report]
>>106623876
>Only so the jewish fanwiki owner can save 10 extra cents per month.
w-what?
Anonymous No.106630496 [Report]
>>106623957
He's ruining /a/ and needs to be contained to /pol/, or fired altogether and hopefully arrested.
fixLIVES !!wuJ3PawAFy9 No.106631407 [Report] >>106633595
>>106629686

> https://siipo.la/blog/is-webp-really-better-than-jpeg

> uses “cwebp -af”, does not use any prepocessor

NGMI.

A better comparison is https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/webp-avif-comparison.html
Anonymous No.106631851 [Report] >>106633595
>>106629686
>which really doesn't warrant its existance
More efficiency isn't warranted? Are you having a giraffe? Never mind that double digit percentages are statistically significant.
Anonymous No.106631905 [Report]
>>106623957
gookmoot ran this place to the ground
Anonymous No.106631941 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
what, a twitter screencap thread? EPIC! kys
Anonymous No.106633595 [Report]
>>106631407
>uses “cwebp -af”
...he also used mozjpeg, are you fucking blind?
>does not use any prepocessor
like 99% of pictures in the wild? why would you pre-process an image before transcoding? oh yeah to cheat in a way that gives an advantage to your shitty webp format, sure.
>>106631851
>More efficiency isn't warranted?
reading comprehension = 0
i never said more efficiency isn't warranted, I said it's existance isn't warranted when it's only a 10-20% improvement over a 30 decade old format that's way less computationally complex and which can also benefit from a 10-20% filesize reduction losslessly by jpeg-xl transcoding
good luck saving 20% by transcoding a legacy jpeg to webp while not fucking up the image quality, unfortunately every site does this and it's the reason jxl's jpeg reconstruction is a huge deal, you can't ignore the fact that 95+% of all images that exist so far are jpegs and jxl can improve those.
Anonymous No.106633857 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
They didn't bother updating for a decade until the site was hacked, and you're wondering why new features aren't being added
Anonymous No.106633875 [Report]
>>106621110 (OP)
skip straight to superior format AV1
Anonymous No.106633898 [Report]
>>106629713
this would be the best solution to be desu