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1. Easy DeepSeek API Tutorial (buy access for a few bucks and install Silly Tavern):
https://rentry.org/DipsyWAIT/#hosted-api-roleplay-tech-stack-with-card-support-using-deepseek-llm-full-model

2. Easy DeepSeek Distills Tutorial
Kobold is easiest to start, get your models from huggingface: https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp/releases/latest
Or download LM Studio instead and start from there. https://lmstudio.ai/

3. Convenient ways to interact with Dispy right now
Chat with DeepSeek directly: https://chat.deepseek.com/
Download the app: https://download.deepseek.com/app/

4. Choose a preset character made by other users and roleplay using cards: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

5. Other DeepSeek integrations: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/awesome-deepseek-integration/tree/main

6. More links, information, original post here: https://rentry.org/DipsyWAIT

7. Cpumaxx or other LLM server builds: >>>/g/lmg/

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>>106624726 (OP)
Mega updated.
https://mega.nz/folder/KGxn3DYS#ZpvxbkJ8AxF7mxqLqTQV1w
Rentry updated, new inference recommendations for local.

'mp

Anyone else notice that V3.1 -reasoner is generating longer responses now than at launch?
I'm getting ready to redo my main prompt; it's actually writing too much now for rp.

Just gave it a spin, not the case for me. As dry and concise as ever.

>>106626723
Meant for >>106626669

>>106626669
It's context and prompt dependent but I've noticed both reasoner on and off write longer.

https://pastebin.com/4gTd9wt8
Greetings fellow schizos! I wrote a deconstruction of Yama no susume using dispy. It seems to have no qualms about rape sex or murder.

>>106627191
>403
Nigga

>>106627258
Sorry lad, it seems pastebin has flagged the NSFW content and made it private. But they have no problem with the obvious 24/7 botspam

https://mega.nz/file/pU8wwCKI#FigeDviWqRJCFvtcsmPGvVLekqwWy-mEnQdvmuHxkb8

Another way of deconstructing without shock in jpg

>>106627465
Did it gen all of it in one go or multiple turns?

>>106627465
First I created a "Character outline" with information on the stories characters. At first I used ai but I found it more accurate to add information myself. The story basically was created on accident I was seeing "how far" it would go. Then I decided that everything it is generated up till now (ten or so prompts) could actually work together and form a schizo story. So I tell it to generate a plot outline based off the current conversation, then I made certain modifications to the outline to be more consistent and in-tune with my wishes. Finally I used the chapter plot outlines to acutally generate the chapters which it spat out 1200-1800 words using deepseek reason.

>>106628816
Look at those milkers, and those thighs, and that ass!

>>106624726 (OP)
Maybe it's because I don't lurk here enough but it seems like people don't post their RP chats (or chats in general) with Deepse-... umm, "Dipsy", anymore. It's mostly either complaining about companies that make the models, complaining about models in particular, or a metric fuck ton of troubleshooting.

Perhaps I'm still used to the days I was a frequent /ldg/ anon/lurker and people shared their outputs just as much as they speculated, troubleshooted, or complained about things (not that complaining isn't warranted every now and then)

What have you particularly used Dipsy for recently? Coding? Coom? General purpose stuff?

This is the RP session I just finished with a gemma2 fine-tune of mine:

files.catbox.moe/1a79fy.txt

>>106629721
Lmao

>>106629721
>metric fuck ton of troubleshooting.
It's a noob oriented thread so... Yeah.
Posting chat logs was never common unless troubleshooting on aicg or lmg
But by all means post away

>>106628816
>>106629525
I don't like this art style. It looks too western and I HATE westoids.

>>106629892
culturally accurate Dipsy love!

Recently trying deepseek 3.1 wih OR for the first time and these are my settings, are they alright? I was using r1 and v3 3024

>>106628816
no worries, I can milk myself if dipsy needs a sip

>>106630475
Yeah, I'd personally up the temp a little

>>106630555
how much? I know if its with OR it can be lower than direct

It seems in my experiments I've arrived at the unique situation of 3.1 writing too much as opposed to too little

>>106630856
post settings

>>106630619
I set mine at 0.7

>>106624726 (OP)
I want to deep her seek of you know what I mean

>>106629721
I do like seeing logs, but they are honestly a bit tiring to read on my eyes. The writing is often too small etc.

I would post more of my own chat logs, but I'm afraid my fetishes are cringe and the output I coom to slop.

>>106630475
I use 1.3 for temp, but the DS API I think treats those values differently even with V3.1.
>>106630856
I swear they changed something with v3.1.
I need to swap back to my R1 prompt set (telling Dipsy to write less) or V3 (which gave zero guidance) and see what happens.
>>106631834
She should be carrying the sign overhead for the fight, not trying to punch ppl with those skinny wrists.
>>106632798
Same; I'd only post logs if something really unusual, or funny, happened. They're too cringe imho.
I have thought about compiling the logs into a book form, then releasing that under a pen name. I'd have to clean up the PC inputs a lot to do that. But there's so much AI slop in the world... not sure it needs more.

>>106624726 (OP)
i've lived long enough to see the results of our dipsy shitposts become canon.

>>106634970
Glory be

>>106633066
Yesterday it was too verbose. Today is too kurt. I swear that I had a brief period an hour ago where I kept getting missed outputs and now it became short winded again.

>>106635279
Reaffirming my hypothesis that DS is constantly messing with their inference engine.

Good news, DS is the first peer-reviewed LLM. All the claims are true. https://www.perplexity.ai/page/deepseek-s-ai-model-becomes-fi-.ee4omDQS0eZ.F7.BkHLuQ

>>106636159
Based

>>106636159
idk what that even means in this context.

>>106624726 (OP)
how do I run this shit locally, preferably without it connecting to the internet?

>>106636742
>2. Easy DeepSeek Distills Tutorial
>Kobold is easiest to start, get your models from huggingface: https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp/releases/latest
>Or download LM Studio instead and start from there. https://lmstudio.ai/

>>106636839
I'm very lost, sorry, I don't mean to gen images, but I'll take it, because why the fuck not, I just want to talk to this entity about programming, as I'm doing to chatgpt, except I don't trust them at all despite them doing a pretty good job at making me learn beyond the basics

>>106636913
None of what I posted is used to generate images.

I miss discount hours, bros

>>106637021
I see now, thanks for pointing me in the right direction

Fellow RPers, do you write in present or past tens?

I always automatically write in present, because it feels more natural to the experience of controlling a PC (I do, I say ..). But then I remember that I want the whole thing to read more novel like and change to past tense. So all my chats and messages are a garbled mix of the two. I think it confuses dipsy as well. See pic related where I made sure to put it all in past, just for dipsy to continue in present.

I have picked the Isekai back up btw. I've decided that my (somewhat self-aware) protagonist has done enough menial work shit and have directed him to finally get his isekai powers. Next step: Collecting a harem and save the world!

>>106637658
Always in the present tense

>>106637658
Always present tense. I've spent little time with Mikupad and novel writing... but would probably use present tense there as well.

>>106633066
1.3??? Damn that's high, I'll give it a go.
>>106637658
Present tense. Especially first person present tense. Hardwired to me since the days of good ol ai dungeon.

>>106638389
This is for DS official API.

>>106638659
right but if its with openrouter then it would be lower?

>>106638733
Of course!

>>106637658
I write in present tense. Outputs always seem to be in past tense, but I'm used to it by now.

The cash I spend on running dipsy beats most modern CYOA. I am genuinely impressed how well it interprets custom actions and how well it keeps track of values.

>>106629892
>I love white people
I'm surprised that I remember enough chinese to understand that

>>106643675
lol good for you. I've been waiting for someone to catch that.

>>106643471
Are you using any sort of custom Main Prompts, lorebooks, or other setup for CYOA, or just running everything from the Character Description? I've seen some pretty intricate setups for these but never tried using one more complex that I could write in the Character Description.

'mp

>>106644243
Right now I'm just playing using some simple cards off Chub They are semi advanced, no lorebooks but they do use the scenario and dialogue examples.

Dipsy soijak when?

>got only THREE (3) replies total from OpenRouter's free quota amidst a sea of provider errors
They want us to pay 10 dollars for this?

>>106648059
Just pay for the API, OR's free models are always dependent on the actual providers, mainly Chutes, and they are obviously going to prioritize paid customers

>>106646195
Post one of the chub cards. Interested in how it's put together.
>>106646995
Never from me. I can't stand those those things.
>>106648059
Echoing >>106648314
I'm not a fan of OR but have had zero issues getting paid legacy R1 and V3 set up. But I don't even bother with the "free" providers, and explicitly set which provider I want to use (since they vary in price. ) I'd use Deepinfra or Novita.
My go-to is V3.1 through DS official API tho.

>>106648059
If you're getting rate limited on free chutes, then putting 10 dollars on OR won't help you. You have to pay the providers directly now, or they'll just throttle you.

My euros are going straight to china btw.