Thread 106636696

Is being a stem fag outside the US just a big meme (especially in Europe)?

90-100k€ (all-in, 40h) is considered as end game and ceiling for stem people (well, the good ones and even then only like 15% can reach this) in Germany, everyone else earns around 60-75k€ until they retire.
Renting a 50-60m2 flat costs you 1200-1500€ per month in big cities and only there you get proper jobs.
Take a look at this:
https://www.immobilienscout24.de/Suche/de/bayern/muenchen/wohnung-mieten?haspromotion=false&livingspace=50.0-60.0&exclusioncriteria=swapflat&pricetype=rentpermonth&enteredFrom=result_list#/
Doctors or lawyers make at least double, more likely triple of that.

Cannot win with stocks, cannot win with crypto, cannot buy real estate.
Cannot do anything even as a top earner at MANGA/FAGMAN (which only nets you 10-15% more than pic related).
>no tariff
>workload more than 40h/w although you are paid only for 40h
>it's expected that you are reachable 24/7 and to work on the weekend
>managment decisions are all done in the US
>although hire&fire is not possible in Europe, the mentality stays the same and pip culture makes your life hell
>located mostly in the most expensive cities in Europe (Dublin, London, Munich, Zurich) and COL + taxes + housing market will fuck you up
>only advantages RSU and other stock options get destroyed by European socialism tax

What am I supposed to do?
Consume and waste my money?
Slave forever in my job and be happy to own nothing?

INB4 some fag recommends remote work in a low-cost area.
None of the big companies allow you to work full remote, it's always 3-4 office days and 1-2 home office days.
And before you recommend Meta or some US startups, Meta has a hire freeze and for everything else that's even less likely than getting into FAGMAN itself here in Europe.


Your parents should have forced you to swallow the med or law pill.
TFW you will never make it in Europe without being born into old money.

>>106636696 (OP)
>Renting a 50-60m2 flat costs you 1200-1500€ per month in big cities and only there you get proper jobs.
I live 30km from a big city and pay 470 eurodollar per month. no problem here, just be smart.

>>106636696 (OP)
it's not that bad if you get out of PIGS or east europe given the different costs compared to the US. especially if you get out of PIGS.
brexit fucked IT all over UK, beside other things, just an honorable mention though since it's not europe anymore. still miles better than any PIGS country.

>>106636696 (OP)
to this day I dont understand why companies just have to have offices in the worst places.
like, they dont pay more or provide housing, no they expect you to find something in a place filled with big companies (munich alone has apple, intel, nvidia, ibm, bmw, microsoft, bosch, siemens and many more) and gladly pay stupid amounts of money for their office palaces.
apple alone invested 1 billion $ into a new office in the MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
>https://www.imore.com/apple-move-new-office-near-munich-central-station
why?
remote no.
office in a more quiet and cheaper place no.
wasting tons of money?
yes

not only Europe is to blame here, companies are also fucking retarded.

>>106636764
>office in the MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
look where microsoft has their offices in Zürich, in the fucking airport

>>106636696 (OP)
>Doctors or lawyers make at least double, more likely triple of that.
do you think what you described is any different for them, do you have any friends working in law or med? People working in med are fucking exhausted, every day for them is a burnout day.
Every lawyer I know is depressed, American ones included.
Stop being such a fucking baby with a sad.jpg save on your computer.

>>106636696 (OP)
EU will have a tough pill to swallow when they realize there is no talent left here anymore and they are completely depended on the US. Soon there will be no way to get out and they'll be pretty much enslaved by the US. (If it hasn't happened already)

Both companies and governments are retarded. They don't value sovereignty at all, only short term costs. They have fallen back so far from US and Asia it's actually laughable.

>>106636764
Literally just dick swinging. The purpose of a publicly traded company isn't to make money and/or good financial decisions it's to increase the stock value

>>106636696 (OP)
jump off a bridge and then also hang yourself

>>106636924
brown hands typed this

>>106636962
fun fact, most white supremacists arent actually white
you see what im trying to call you?

>>106636696 (OP)
>Doctors or lawyers make at least double, more likely triple of that.
Then why did you chose the wrong profession if you only care about money? Stupid retarded fucking Bavarian ape.

>>106636988
>"brown hands typed this"
>[no actual response] [picrel is you right now]
>3 years later
>"School shooting perpetrated by a white supremacist (actually shitskin) niggerfaggot"

>>106637019
>brown autism

>>106637033
>tranny-tier rejection of realiti-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACKACK

>>106637049
imagine having a meltdown 3rdie

>>106636696 (OP)
>>106636962
>>106636988
>>106637033
your thread is dogshit and so are you

>>106637064
imagine coping this hard that someone found out you literally spammed the exact same dogshit op three times already

>>106637077
>whawhawhawha cope whahawhawhawha
im sure allah will notice

Euros are even more money obsessed than americans

>>106636696 (OP)
Europe is better than the USA. Don't give a shit. And it could be worse. Canada is 60k USD ceiling with 2 million dollar houses.

>>106636696 (OP)
In the US the ceiling is maybe double.
Ok.. so what? Most houses are also double in price.
What can you buy with 200k/y that you can't with 100k/y?