Thread 106836601

Anon, you DO encrypt all your hard drives using picrel, right?

Use case for encryption?

How does moving your mouse around help strengthen the encryption?

>>106836601 (OP)
kys shill

>>106836633
not going to jail for cheese possession

>>106836664
Uses your mouse movement for entropy

>>106836668
>shill for a free application
I'm sure they're spending whatever chump change they have on shilling here, you retarded nigger.

>>106836894
brave is also a "free application" yet /g/ shills for it every day

>>106837039
because they're trying to push the value of BAT up. veracrypt isn't promising people free money

>>106836601 (OP)
Yes

>>106837072
Hardly anybody who uses Brave actually uses the crypto shit most people just hide it. Unfortunately it's becoming the only Chromium based browser worth using.

>>106836664
if anyone wants to break your key they need to move their mouse exactly like you did, pixel for pixel

>>106836633
>buy a dozen large hard drives
>fill them up from /dev/urandom
>run veracrypt to encrypt them
>wait for the glowies to come for you
>never give out the passwords
>let the project expose itself as having backdoors
>let the glowies decrypt your hard drives after years of effort
>they literally can't find anything wrong
>you made them waste countless man hours on useless bullshit
if you want to troll a bit

>>106836601 (OP)
>Anon, you DO encrypt all your hard drives using picrel, right?
Well it's kinda pointless when quantum PCs exists.

>>106837171
>Be held for contempt of court and charged with obstruction and wasting police time
You know we will get there sooner or later

>>106837225
AES-256(and maybe even AES-128) is safe.

>>106836601 (OP)
key disclosure laws though. keep a long running session inside volatile memory and have it set up so you can nuke everything at a moment's notice. oh wait NVM i forgot that most of you live in the USA, uk cuck problems

>>106837296
>walk free because of jury nullification

>>106837318
>key disclosure laws though
Isn't that what hidden volumes are for though?

>>106837296
>"your honor, I told these incompetent FBI agents that there was nothing interesting on that drive, but they did not believe me. it's not my fault they chose to break into it anyway."

>>106837323
hidden volumes are tricky to get right, you have to do it at the OS level, you cannot use modern storage devices like SSDs without potentially fucking yourself over, your storage can be immediately cloned and then analyzed at a later date, so in 30 years time while you are married and have kids you will get btfod out of nowhere, etc... just put your data in a long running temp session in volatile memory, you're welcome

>>106837297
AES-128 is absolutely safe
Quantum Computing only threatens mainly RSA, or any other encryption algorithms (usually public key cryptography algorithms), that depend of factorization of large primes being difficult.

>>106837148
>most
key word here
that's the business model of all shit like that, just a small part of the user base needs to take the bait

>>106836601 (OP)
no only my porn collection

>>106836601 (OP)
Of course not. Needing encryption implies someone is stupid enough to have incriminating files in the first place. No reason exists for me to do that or want to.

>>106837344
Yeah just had a glance at the docs and there's like a hundred ways to shoot yourself in the foot. As usual, the solution is not to live in the UK.

>>106837344
>your storage can be immediately cloned and then analyzed at a later date, so in 30 years time while you are married and have kids you will get btfod out of nowhere

Cryptography was never meant to be impossible. Just difficult enough to not merit the effort in trying.

Therefore effort should be placed in ensuring that when it is inevitably breached the time elapse is sufficient enough to render the data obtained useless.

Also, the list of things they still chase you for after 30 years is pretty small. Should be easier to ensure the data doesn't exist. Safer, too.

>>106837405
>encryption implies someone is stupid enough to have incriminating files

I encrypt my storage. Nothing in there can incriminate me. That's not why I do it. That's my data. If you're not me, you don't get it.

If I needed/wanted encryption, I'd use ZFS native.

>>106837405
Juicy bait.
>>106837422
Yeah, things are going to worse before they get better over here.
>>106837449
What matters is that different people use and develop cryptography for different reasons. Many cannot afford to have their data decrypted at a later date (or have some information revealed about that data). Plus even data that's maybe only slightly embarrassing can be a real thorn in the ass 40 years later while running for office.

>>106836601 (OP)
I only use BitLocker

Is the standard linux luks encryption fine or is it compromised?

>>106837759
Every encryption is compromised if you are tortured by glowies
Every encryption is fine if your laptop is stolen by random addicts

>>106837171
i do this with old dvds. blurays, and even cds i get from yard sales.

>>106837735
Bitlocker was reported to have been attacked in 2010 through ElectroMagnetic leaking of cryptographic keys from the TPM chip. archive-part1 archived-part2 Bruce Schneier archived and The Intercept still recommend the software. archived Do your own research.

Since Microsoft's operating system is proprietary software, it is possible that the Bitlocker encryption is backdoored.
>using backdoored encryption
ngmi

usecase for full disk encryption if I'm not a nonce?

>>106837840
>full disk encryption
Not necessary. Just encrypt the data / partition you want to encrypt

>>106837840
fucking with the glowies >>106837171

>>106837840
maybe you want to hide your chitwood/zogbot meme folder while also operating a tor exit node

tip: do not buy a pet

up

>>106836894
its free because they upload all your data directly to micronsa headquarters before """encryption"""

>>106836601 (OP)
glownigger trash. truecrypt is the king

I use bitlocker because I've had issues in the past where a windows update fucks the veracrypt partition. If you only want to prevent a casual thief from swiping your shit and reading your info its good. If I was concerned about anyone else I would go back to veracrypt

>>106837171
> feds put you prison till you give them the keys
> you give them the few keys that you remember (forgot most)
> they find random data
> keep asking for the keys for the "second layer"
> you can't give it to them
> no one believes you that it's random trash data
> fake lie detector test to "proof" you have CP
> spend years in prison
> get raped by inmates
> get tortured by feds to give the passwords

>>106839230
truecrypt is literally backdoored
>>106839267
>still hasn't disabled windows updates
ISHYGDDT

>>106839642
>truecrypt is literally backdoored
yeah, that's why you glowies shut it down and gave us unbackdoored verashit for free

>>106836601 (OP)
Why are you so interested in what i do with my computer?

>>106839732
According to a study released 29 September 2015, TrueCrypt includes two vulnerabilities in the driver that TrueCrypt installs on Windows systems allowing an attacker arbitrary code execution and privilege escalation via DLL hijacking.[81] In January 2016, the vulnerability was fixed in VeraCrypt,[82] but it remains unpatched in TrueCrypt's unmaintained installers.

>>106839849
>source: james forshaw, a literal microsoft and google bot
mkay, stay safe agent

>>106837171
if you believe that the glowies do not possess the top of the top technology for encryption/decryption you are an incomprehensible level of retard. they have the top people in the world working for them.

i have my own way
if anyone guess correctly what i use ill give him a cookie

>>106836601 (OP)
>Anon, you DO encrypt all your hard drives using picrel, right?
Why would I encrypt "all" of my hard drives?
The bulk of my data is games, no need to encrypt that.
The only thing I encrypt are nudes of my girlfriend, my keepass database, and my tax/other personal documents.

>>106839497
>all that text
what actually happens is law enforcement has their own laptop loaded with csam. they hand this laptop to the judge and say they found it in your home.

>>106840366
I just don't see a safe way to store these outside of an airgap.
>The only thing I encrypt are nudes of my girlfriend, my keepass database, and my tax/other personal documents.
How do you have time to reinstall your OS so many times?
I know you actually retrieve/use the data with your computer connected to the network.

>>106840526
>How do you have time to reinstall your OS so many times?
I reinstall my OS maybe twice a year but not for encryption reasons. I dont understand the point of your question.
>I know you actually retrieve/use the data with your computer connected to the network.
True. Ransomware risk is mitigated by having redundant cold storage. In my case, two external SSDs I keep in my desk drawer. I alternate backups between them. As far as a hacker stealing my gf's nudes, if they gain access then they earned em I guess

>>106837536
>yes

>>106836601 (OP)
why would I use that honeypot when dm-crypt/LUKS just works?

>>106837323
Hidden volumes are a worst case in a legal setting, because a hostile regime could reasonably detain you indefinitely under belief you have a hidden volume you may not have disclosed. If the software you use doesn't have hidden volumes, you can give them the keys and buy new computers and restore from a backup they did not get access to, and they have less reason to believe you are hiding evidence in that case.

>>106840882
>a hostile regime could detain you indefinitely
ftfy. might makes right.

>>106840366
let me guess, your gf is 9?

>>106841095
no she's definitely a 10

>>106836601 (OP)
i only use storage encryption on devices i take outside of my house incase they get lost

>using encryption that exposes your key on ram
lol, lmao!

>>106840929
My argument is that a hostile regime is *more likely* to detain you indefinitely if they have evidence you may have a hidden volume.

>>106837828
fTPM and TPM2.0 to avoid key leaking bruh, even linux can use them

>>106840115
No one cares iToddler, your devices have an actual hardware backdoor on the silicon.

>>106836664
There is no such thing as random in computers.
Using user input (like mouse movement) can provide the entropy needed for truly randomness.

>>106841145
My argument is thats not how a hostile regime works. If you are a person of interest, there is no circumstance they just let you walk away. your only decision is do you want to be tortured to death, or do you want to be tortured to death AND tell your enemy your secrets

>>106841145
>>106841293
If you are captured alive then you already fucked up

>>106836601 (OP)
No, fuck off.

>>106841293
Well if you are a person of interest you're fucked, I would agree there. If you're a nobody who lives under a hostile regime, e.g. a Palestinian in Israel, you probably don't want to add more fuel to the fire. If you are incarcenated by their police and you are legitimately innocent of whatever accusation they are throwing at you, you are entirely at their mercy to ever see the light of day ever again.

>>106837171
>>wait for the glowies to come for you
At that point you probably have actual child pizza anyway or posted some dumb shit about killing the president in minecraft or something.

>>106841123
>hard drive motor fails

>>106841343
>child pizza

>>106841401
>cheese porn

>>106841317
>If you're a nobody who lives under a hostile regime, e.g. a Palestinian in Israel, you probably don't want to add more fuel to the fire.
>If you are incarcenated by their police and you are legitimately innocent of whatever accusation they are throwing at you, you are entirely at their mercy to ever see the light of day ever again.
I feel like you contradicted yourself. If a Palestinian is facing capture by Israelis, I think they should fight to the death to escape. pic related.

>>106836633
Child porn

>>106841452
The reality is that that quote is fiction, individuals who do not congregate to form legitimate resistances cannot hope to stand up against an oppressive regime salivating at finding a reason to imprison, exile, or otherwise persecute them. It is unreasonable to expect a rational actor to resist knowing that more resources will be allocated against him and his odds of survival *decrease* if he does so, and it is by this game theory that tyrannical governments survive.

>>106836601 (OP)
veracrypt is legit, i had the glowies asking me for my password for a year last time i got arrested lol
(i was running a tor exit node)

can't wait until the EU finally removes encryption from the internet on 14th october!

>>106841621
>i was running a tor exit node
could you see which site they visited?

>>106841654
You can if you really want to.
But actually running that shit will get you targeted fast as fuck. It doesnt matter if you literally run most of it in a fucking ramdisk, your isp will log all the traffic and that brings the glowies to you.

>>106837154
No they wouldnt, they just need your private key.

Personally I don't see the point of the mouse movement. Your PC's internal clock is as close to random as you're going to find. If the NSA somehow had a stateful capture of your pc's internal clock at the time of private key generation then there is no hope they already won.

If they DONT have one of those obscure listening type attacks going then I see no difference between a key derived from:

PC internal clock: 1463346658345576

vs PC internal clock + a few thousand mouse inputs.

If someone can break down for me why the second option is stronger I'm all ears.

>>106839497
There's no reason for them to do this unless you are doing something far more significant. There are people.posting cp on twitter right now, there are countless discord servers where real.kids are being made to send photos. If the glowniggers had even a fraction of the determination you describe here, all of that would be long gone.

>>106840882
a hostile regime doesn't need to actually find a reason to.detain you they can just make up whatever.

>>106841494
>It is unreasonable to expect a rational actor to resist knowing that more resources will be allocated against him and his odds of survival *decrease* if he does so, and it is by this game theory that tyrannical governments survive.
cool, continental army won though, viet cong won though, taliban won though.
if you dont resist then your chance of survival is zero. have a nice day.

>>106840401
This

Don't forget about the Vegas shooters brother having terabytes of cheese on an INTERNAL drive, despite running a win 9x system using IDE drives.
Wild

>>106839497
lie detector tests are pseudoscience and inadmissible in courts

>>106836601 (OP)
I encrypt my hard drives by burning down the data center they're in. 100% data security

>>106837405
I do it because the Arch wiki tells me to do it.

>>106837840
You live in the UK and you're in the middle of writing the greatest novel of the 21st century (no spoilers).

>>106837735
This is the way. Good enough to keep out Jamal. It isnt perfect see>>106837828, however just like with secure email, if you need it you use something else. If you are in a position where need actual serious data protection your needs are way beyond off the shelf freely available encryption solutions, and you use another solution.

>>106836601 (OP)
Only time i ever did this is when I was storing unironic child sexual abuse material I saved from /b/. Literally no other use case

>>106844368
How do people get brainwashed into unironically using this retarded redundant term? Baffling.

>>106844413
'use case'? It's a meme

>>106844501
"CSAM"
And you even took the time to type it out unabbreviated for some reason.

>>106836601 (OP)
just my porn

Probably the only way to really encrypt something safely is to create your own software and encryption method and key but the average pedo is too stupid to do that and normal people probably don't care enough to encrypt their data

>>106841714
>There are people.posting cp on twitter right now, there are countless discord servers where real.kids are being made to send photos.
source? it sounds like (You) just made it up.

>>106844413
>>106844559
how is it redundant? little girls cannot consent to having sex

>>106837536
>How would you know, officer?

>>106836601 (OP)
PIM doesn't work in all settings. good luck

>>106844368
bank info is a basic use case of encryption.

microsoft has bitlocker and many businesses force its use

>>106836601 (OP)
is it on AUR?

>>106844997
It's on the official repo

>>106844882
bait

>>106836601 (OP)
BitLocker for Windows
FileVault for macOS
cryptsetup+LUKS for Linux
VeraCrypt for portable containers

you're welcome

>>106836601 (OP)
Why not just use /dev/random?

>>106837171
I have tons of old hard drives filled with data like that so I can sell them if I don't happen to need them. Would this really be a problem?

>>106841204
>itoddler
thats a proof of concept of 3d based compression encryption anon
every binary is being drawn as vertex inside of the helix
for a 100gb you need a 5000x5000x4339 3d based model the output model is about 1.3 gb based on lzma2 and aes1024

>>106837536
>>106844938
>ma'am
>encryption
>pedophile
like pottery

>>106836601 (OP)
I ENCRYPT MY HARD DRIVES WITH A HAMMER, HOSS.
There's no way I'd need encryption, I'm not a pedophile or a terrorist.

>>106844368
You will be investigated for this.

>>106845246
Maybe they caught Itou Hachi.

>>106842396
yeah theyre a scare tactic to get you to confess

>>106845258
>I ENCRYPT MY HARD DRIVES WITH A HAMMER, HOSS.
wtf does this even mean?
>There's no way I'd need encryption, I'm not a pedophile or a terrorist.
you'll learn, newfag

>>106837720
If you're the kind of retard to "run for office" you've got bigger problems than weird porn habits.

>>106845389
Learn what, shithead?
>>106845396
Ya. Ask Biden.

>>106836894
>shill for a free application
nigga that's half the board

>>106839071
damn, my isp my have given me a free speedup then

>>106845019
kys pedonigger

up

>>106836601 (OP)
Why using this instead of LUKS?

>>106841713
>If someone can break down for me why the second option is stronger I'm all ears.
I guess supporting hardware that has worse clocks
but
>modern windows application
lol

>using neo truecrypt
ngmi

>>106846160
In a search of a Californian defendant's apartment for accessing child pornography, a VeraCrypt drive that was over 900 gigabytes was found as an external hard drive. The FBI was called to assist local law enforcement, but the FBI claimed to not have found a weakness in the VeraCrypt software. The FBI also denied having a backdoor within the VeraCrypt software. It was later found that another suspect had educated the defendant into using encryption to hide his photos and videos of child pornography. Because the defendant had admitted to having child pornography on the drive as a backup anyways and chat logs relating to the other suspect educating the defendant on how to use VeraCrypt, the foregone conclusion doctrine was used again.

>>106836601 (OP)
Got something to hide, freak?

>>106836601 (OP)
I'm not using gloware

>>106845057
why not using veracrypt for everything?
is LUKS2 stronger than verycrypt?

>>106836601 (OP)
Me retardia. You retardia. We all retardia.

ME DONT WANNA EAT MY POO POO BUT ME MUST EAT ME POOPOO I MUST EAT POO POO

>>106847172
no, and I will never trust software that wasn't built by schizos

>>106847172
because native solutions are better tested and integrated into each OSes but also much less incline to fail at boot or corrupt your drives
I use VeraCrypt to create containers and store backup files etc, knowing I can open them on whatever OS since it cross compatible

I also forgot GPG for single files

>>106836601 (OP)
For anyone gullible reading, this thread is being astroturfed by glowies conflating encryption with illegal activity. There is a global push to outlaw encryption for individuals and to ID everyone online. Encryption keeps your personal data safe - your files are your business and nobody else's. Don't take what you read here seriously, some glowie literally said this
>>106844368

up

>>106836601 (OP)
>using veracrypt

>>106837405
>this nigga posts on 4chan but doesn't pirate media or software

>>106848916
>this nigga lives in a country where storing personal backup copies of media or software is incriminating

>>106836633
use cases for CP?

>>106837171
they will just twist your nuts until you admit to the non-existing pizza

>Why do you need a firearm? You can't beat the US military air-striking your house.
>Why do you need encryption? You can't beat the NSA cracking it while they hold you in Gitmo.
>Why do you lock your front door? The Navy SEALs will just put a C4 charge on it.

>>106836693
>>106841459
>>106849421
you're trying way to hard glowniggers

>>106836601 (OP)
why..
maybe if you'd lug around a laptop.

also don't use veracrypt. obviously truecrypt got displaced by it so the glowies could insert their compromised random number generators.

thank god bitcoin uses one of two that aren't.

>>106836664
It's a sub-optimal source for entropy, but still a source for entropy.
So better than nothing.
Having some machine that mechanically rolls perfect dice for you n number of times(where n is some theoretically sufficient number) would be better.
Or maybe using the cosmic microwave background or something(I don't know, some people are experts in this stuff)
But realistically it's probably not a problem assuming the cryptography itself is fine.

>>106836601 (OP)
yes
computer won't boot unless you got the pass
simple as

>>106836601 (OP)
No I use LUKS casue I'm not retarded

>>106837536
>yeah, it's a work computer
Simple as

>>106844981
use case for PIM?

>>106849999
based and checked.

>>106848367
the only name i trust for keeping my marriage safe from my clussy collection

nump

doesn't encrypting a whole drive incurr heavy overhead? it's gotta decrypt any and every file before it can do shit

>>106853710
It's not noticeable in real use, at least on modern hardware.

>>106836601 (OP)
don't own a hdd. or any data worth storing.

>>106836601 (OP)
Why would I need to encrypt my hard drives?

>>106854304
To protect sensitive personal data and prevent having it stolen?

>>106840085
Dont know about murricans, but Czech glowniggers can't even bypass Bitlocker.

>>106841494
My parents made a neighborhood meeting where they grilled and people were able to meet other people from their neighbourhood.

It was less than 70 people who where involved and the invites were send through non open channels and still undercover cops showed up and filmed everybody. My parents only know this due to one of them straight up telling them because he thought it was a waste of time.

Forming any kind of resistance is getting impossible for the future generations as their whole life is documented and can probably be tempered with enough to disrupt them by the press of a few buttons. Even politicians who were born 70 years ago face trouble for things they did as children, no chance for somebody born today to succeed if they weren't raised for it especially or have incredibly powerful family ties.

>>106845289
she's above the law

>>106854945
source?

>>106836601 (OP)
no i use my own luks2 implementation

up

>>106854880
https://tubitv.com/series/300016049/macgyver

watch episode 5 and 7 of season 1
and you will understand why macgyver became a cultural phenomenon

>>106836601 (OP)
No. Loonix did everything by default using wathever backdoored shit. Glowies are going to btfo me...

>>106836633
fpbp tsmt
/thread

>>106836601 (OP)
I encrypt some files using Cryptomator but that's all.