Shock collars are pretty sensible, dogs respond well to training, but badly behaved breeds and poorly trained or abused (by someone else than the current owner) dogs will constantly test and it's unreasonable that a owner is expected to decline them 24 hours a day and only with intimidation on top of that. On a well trained obedient dog, they will (usually) do no harm.
They could save a lot of dogs lives, by making previously deemed "untamable" dogs that are put down in shelters en masse livable, consistently training dogs that are currently going untrained and thus getting more punishment all the way to preventing dogs from being abused or neglected by having them behave in civilized way.
>>106848297
>You should have to get a permit and a valid reason to own a dog.
No, but "emotional" and "therapy" dogs should be abolished as a legal concept (it's just their pet) and all service dogs need to be re-evaluated for all the mis-categorized "emotional" and "therapy" dogs to be weeded out.
pitbulls need to be exterminated though.
>>106848356
>Murdering a person can always be justified somehow
yeah, you're exposing your extreme anti-human and pro-dog bias, aka retardation. Using a shock collar can always be painted as moral too. Maybe he tried very hard to "painlessly" train the dog to obey, to the point of exhausting himself, and his last resort to stop it from running off and mauling a baby was to inflict a small and very temporary amount of pain on the dog to get it to behave.
Hyperboly to make the point.
A dog is biologically a slave animal, if it's allowed to lead, it will cause pain and suffering. It's also not that intelligent and it's suffering isn't the same as a humans.
