Thread 106853090

All tech hardware AND software to face 100% tariffs on China.

Waddaya think?

>>106853090 (OP)
I think my balls would fit the n your mouth nicely

China's move was an overreach. This is retaliation. Blame Beijing.

>>106853094
fpbp

>>106853102
But I need my chink trinkets!!!

>>106853111 (checked)
No refunds.

>>106853090 (OP)
Huh? But didn't Trump already have 100% tariffs on China since he got into office?

11.11 has been cancelled

>threaten tariff
>delay
>threaten tariff
>delay
>threaten tariff

>>106853121
>>106853138
Yes, but the tariffs this time are for REAL. For more TAKESIE BACKSIES!!!

>>106853138
>Trump threatens tariffs on China
>China immediately stops buying s/oybeans from USA, costing hundreds of thousands of farmer jobs + $20B in immediate bailout
>Trump takes back tariffs

>Trump threatens tariffs on China again
>China immediately stops exporting rare earth minerals to the US
>Trump takes back tariffs

China will do the same and take back what they're doing, right? They're going to buy agricultural goods and start exporting minerals to the US again and back off from their threats, right?

>>106853138
Art of the Deal.

Unironically--trust the plan.

>>106853090 (OP)
Trump discovered the meaning of FAFO. He'll be begging for mercy soon.

>software
China has it's own. Software is nothing, metal is everything.

>the world
No nigger, this is just you fucking America. We have nothing to do with this. Go lay in the bed you've made.

>>106853147
hmmmh taco

>>106853186
What plan?

op is seething about this on multiple boards btw
>>>/int/215727424

>>106853090 (OP)
Can't wait for JewSA to collapse

>>106853090 (OP)
>>106853102
>>106853186
How can you control software if Open Source like Blender isn’t legally binding to the government. Stupid America and their dumb made up laws.

You act as if it affect you personally at this fucking minute, what a bunch of ridiculous morons

>>106853411
It does affect me I'm in six figure hell on /biz/, this shit keeps happening and I'll never make it to 7 fig purgatory.

>>106853420
I farted big smelly nice fart and Im sniffing it now lazily, this is how much it affects me

>>106853090 (OP)
Who cares about American bullshit?

>>106853090 (OP)
>"we must control our software and who we sell it to!"
>everyone steals it instead because if its illegal to buy then who cares
>"w-w-wait t-t-that's illegal!"
oh america.

>>106853380
Kek, least obsessed Canadian.

>>106853090 (OP)
even WPS chinese microsoft word, is way better and compatible with microsoft word. they also protect with AES. lmao

what i'm hoping is, there will massive RE for critical software.

>>106853194
amerimutt like to use "world" for their country. like they own every countries. massive brain idiot.

>>106853380
looks like you have a leaky clitty here

>>106853380
>>106853489
It just got deleted for being reposted by someone larping as this op.
Probably a bot since whenever the US fucks up they immediately try to blame it on Canada.

>>106853090 (OP)
Based. Socialist shitskins eat ass and die.

>>106853411
I've been trying to start a business all year. Shit keeps getting riskier and riskier. There are many people whose jobs depend on a supply line from China. Every threat, risk, delay, deal, and tax has ramifications.

>>106853566
Then start making shit in America.

American plastics.
American steel.
American chemicals
American precursors.
All 150+ components that goes into making your product? All American.

Make EVERY person make everything in America. Huge salaries for everybody. The guy making nuts and bolts needs a good paying 6-figure salary to afford a house and start a family.

>>106853579
I buy local whenever I can. There's no substitute for Chinese tea, though. I don't disagree with the sentiment, but without leadership or a clear plan, small business owners are floundering. Established tycoons can ride out the rough waters, but I sure can't. I have a mortgage to pay. I'm going to be disappointed if these tariffs make me sideline my dream job and go back to wageslaving.

>>106853420
>>106853598
Should've done some insider trading.

>>106853090 (OP)
Market manipulation. None of this shit means anything except that rich faggots are about to get richer once again.

>>106853090 (OP)
TACO
The big tech lobbyists are going to tear him a new one and he'll have no choice but to chicken out as usual

>>106853579
You can't make shit in America overnight thats the thing
Strip mining rare earths takes years to set up, you can't just stand and yell MAGA and suddenly tomorrow shit is produced in America you fucking retard, he is destroying the US

inb4 we're gonna build them
by the time you have a semblance of viable manufacturing you have eviscerated the entire american economy gg

>>106853090 (OP)
Can't wait until November.

https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/case-files/trump-v-v-o-s-selections/

They're going to decide exactly like the lower courts, only the auto and steel/aluminum tariffs will remain. Shitty any of them will, but better than this fucking constantly changing garbage on everything.

Also /pol/.

>>106853090 (OP)
TACO Donnie will pussy out before November 1st

>>106854111
>stopping tariffs from being implemented and removed 24 hours later

But then how will billionaires play the stock market and make billions in 1 day?

HarmonyOS will rise... it's over for Microsoft, Google and Apple.

>>106853090 (OP)
Trump thinks the world today is the same as the world in the 19th century. He's a perfect example of ivory tower syndrome, completely clueless of the reality of the world.

>>106854324
seriously just wait until western normies find out China has developed a complete operating system that's not a panopticon surveillance advertising nightmare written by incompetent third world indians to maximize shareholder profit or an unfinished freetard experiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cwBUp1ymCo

>>106854337
>china: i'm restricting the amount of rare earths i'm selling
>usa: i'm levying an 100% import tax on American companies that buy rare earths
this makes no sense in the 19th century either

>>106853194
>We have nothing to do with this.
M8, china threatens everyone with their rare metals. It's your deal as well.

>>106854439
it does. if every company that buys rare metal, and everything china, goes bankrupt, china will have no one to sell to. USSR also made a lot of shit, but with no one to buy it, it crashed and crashed hard.

>>106854324
>>106854362
>China has developed a complete operating system that's not a panopticon surveillance
Listen to yourself, wumao. Listen to the demented shit you try to peddle, you half-famished subhuman.

>>106854697
Think about it from the non-US perspective. China is already most countries top economic and trade partner. China isn't threatening to annex sovereign European territory or invade and regime change random South American countries for oil.
Chinese backdoors are simply less of a threat to most nations then American backdoors and always on corporate spyware that's inseparable from the US gov.

>>106854833
...and other fantasies the Chinks need you to believe.
I love it how when they try their little propaganda campaigns like this, they tell them to try to gaslight people as stupidly as they can, expecting them to take them at face value. It's so dumb and embarrassing to watch.
At least the Russians are subversive and try to get under your skin.

>>106853121
Yes, but these are 'over and above' any existing tarifff. So now you'll have the price, plus a 100% tarifff (that's currently cancelled) PLUS yet another 100% tarrriffff (that will also be cancelled).
SO tldr, you'll now have to pay the full same price you did before, and not a penny less. That'll taught 'em chinks.

>>106854926
Trumpstein... I kneel... I can't wait until you back off the tariffs on October 31st, and then say you'll reimplement them on January 1st 2026 (only to back off on December 31st)... So that families can buy gifts on Black Friday and for Christmas without spending a penny extra...

Americans will just pay the 100% tax
They can't live without chinese gadgets

America is already terminal and in its death throes it will lash out at friends and enemies alike. American billionaire elites proudly show off their doomsday bunkers and island fortress compounds. Their whole goal is to let it all fail and then carve up the carcass to create their "network state" private kingdoms. Their only hail mary that they're putting all their resources into chasing is AGI, but China is clearly leading in fundamental AI research while the US only leads in marketing spin and trying to hyperscale existing LLM technology with trillions in borrowed money which evidence suggests won't work.

>>106853090 (OP)
Oh no, the Chinese can't buy Windows 11!

>>106853090 (OP)
Why highlight 4 lines when you can just read the full post are you that braindead? If you truly couldn't read the whole thing you don't deserve to have a voice in politics

>>106853090 (OP)
dropshippers you better order those suicide ropes before Nov 1st or you might not be able to afford them

>>106855062
Nobody in politics ever read the bill, you retard. They just get paid to vote.

>>106855076
Wow! you can't even read 1 line. I think people like you should just be culled

>>106855092
Why are you telling everybody you're retarded? We already knew this.

>>106854664
>china will have no one to sell to

>>106853090 (OP)
Admitting defeat is the first step, now come your cope strategies.

>>106855154
It's funny how little China is affected by the US tariffs. Majority of the goods are either 1) Not affected by tariffs since Trump keeps pussying out or 2) Transshipped since businesses either didn't front load or don't have the storage capacity (small/medium businesses) thus making consumers pay more

Every country is doing more business with China, both in exports and imports.

>can't sell raw materials to US?
>sell to China
>China sells finished goods to you
>Brazil's coffee beans tariffed (now Starbucks closing stores and losing money)
>China buys up coffee beans and now pushing Starbucks out of China

Is there ANYTHING the US is doing right?

>>106854324
God I wish it did. I'm so tired

>>106853138
NEH TACO

>>106855154
i don't think you know how it works, but sure, africans reeeely need these rare metals right now. can't live without em, nah.

>>106853090 (OP)
the removal of de minimis has completely fucked me over and i havent been able to get any figure shipments from amiami because of it. fuck trump

>>106855261
You literally have no idea how rare metals work. Do you think rare metals are worth hundreds of billions? Rare metals are cheap as fuck, with each element individually worth a billion each, if that. The problem isn't the price. It's how critical they are in every industry. And China keeps it artificially cheap.

If you spend $10B over 5 years building a single mine and a single refinery, China will open the doors back up and crash the market again making you go bankrupt for investing.

I'd suggest learning about things before talking about it.

>>106855295
>Do you think rare metals are worth hundreds of billions?
I think they worth anything at all only for those who have need for them
>China will open the doors back up and crash the market again
1000% tarif on chinese rares, done. American new industry is protected.

>>106855295
Adding onto this, in case anybody else, like the ESL, wants to know more about rare earth minerals.

The US imports less than $1M worth of gallium from China every year, yet China controls 95% of the supply chain. Without it, virtually every electronic cannot be made because they require a miniscule amount of it.

ESLers really shouldn't have an opinion on anything.

>>106855295
You are at the peak though. There is no free trade with china and there never has been not even in the rare earth market

>yes saar 5 billion paarcent taariffs saar

Holy shit, gas every retarded brown nigger.

>>106855283
grow the fuck up manchild

>>106855342
lol, is china THAT afraid of india? Get ready to loose all your production power to great state of hindu, lil boy.

>>106855373
Poojeet saar... your manufacturing % is lower than that of Vietnam... 56 million poojeets are leaving manufacturing to go back to farming in the last couple of years... pls improve English saar...

>>106855326
oh no.

>>106855373
it was over before it even begun

Why are brown people so fucking retarded, bros? They keep butting in and trying to inject with their retarded opinions.

I LOVE THIS ORANGE SHABOS NIGGER RETARD SO MUCH
FUCK AMERICANS! RIGHT AND LEFT NIGGERS SHOULD KILL EACH OTHER

>>106855398
*skips the part about crashing the prices while you have to spend a decade and tens of billions to extract hundreds of thousands*

Based retard. I bet you also know nothing about the historic oil crisis playing the same game.

Bring up articles of "proposed mines" that never went anywhere. In fact, you can bring up articles from 10-20 years ago of "huge X-element mine discovered" that never went anywhere.

>>106855392
>2018
lol, anything from 19th century?

>>106855418
Poojeet saar... why do you eat cow shit?

>>106853102
Who started the trade war

Poojeet saar... how does a country with barely 100 million people beat out 1,500,000 poojeets in manufacturing???

2022??? That's basically 10,000 years ago saar!!!

>>106855430
SAAR?

HOW VIETNAM TWICE GOODER NUMBAAR THAN INDIA IN MANUFACTURING???

THIS MEANS 1 VIETNAMESE BETTAAR THAN 30 POOJEEETS???

>>106855418
saar many americans are suffering

Don't make fun of India.

Indians are POWERFUL!

>>106855415
US, EU, and Japan are investing in rare earth alternatives because china keeps weaponizing them. Sorry, but that no how market works, and china will soon find out why making cheap shit and praying for poor people to buy it isn't the best strategy there is.

>>106855446
Ok, enjoy your massive inflation.

>>106855446
>and china will soon find out why

Yes, yes, yes, China will soon find out in 2 more weeks. Again, your retarded brown ass couldn't read and address the point, so you have you have to talk about something else and ignore the question.

I can bring up ten articles of mines being discovered 10+ years ago on europium, terbium and dysprosium, etc mines that never got developed because nobody is going to spend $50B to extract and refine $100k worth of minerals.

But sure, keep talking about a subject you have no idea about.

>>106855462
You literally cannot reason with sub-80 IQ retards. There's no point in it. They think shit is magic and that you can make an entire supply chain built up over 40+ years in a week.

>hehe lol we're just going to do everything ourselves starting TODAY! (said 10 years ago every week)

>>106855462
Enjoy having 1000 factories that produce nothing of worth,
After all, it's for US to decide how much they want to pay you. Boss' burden.

>>106855463
>$50B to extract and refine $100k worth of minerals.
Yeah, sure, sure, And no one gonna waste time and money to land on a piece of rock far in the sky.

>>106855485
Any minute now. The mine will be built any minute now.

>>106854107
Trvke

>>106855436
Oh no

>>106854107
>>106855492
UN-TRVKED!

Patriots ITT are saying the mines are being built RIGHT NOW as we speak,

The mines were discovered 20 years ago, and we're almost close too completion.

>>106855487
Enough time to wait. Have to give japanese more money in the meanwhile, i guess.

>>106853245
the greater israel plan

>>106853138
>every time he does that market dumps and pumps
And w'allah just like that everyone close to Trump quintupled their wealth

>>106855521
>i guess
You're not "guessing". You're making retarded assumptions, because you quite literally have no idea what you're talking about, for the tenth time. I'm imploring you to stop being a fucking retard, for the betterment of this thread. "A quarter" of the Japan's gallium to the US has upstream in China.

It's like assembling Lego pieces, giving it to somebody, and saying you "made" it.

PLEASE stop posting retarded bullshit, again and again, about a subject you have no idea about.

>>106853251
now thats a heckin XD right there!

>>106855555
nice digits

>>106855554
>In 2021, Japan used 167 tons of gallium, of which 97 tons were imported. The country has been working to diversify its procurement sources, but 55 tons, or about 60% of imports, still come from China.
>Since China tightened its export controls on gallium in August 2023, exports to Japan have fallen by 80% to 90%, to around 10 tons.

Hahaha, sure, sure.

>>106855598
>he doesn't know what upstream means

PLEEEEEEEEEEASE STOP BEING A FUCKING RETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

>>106855602
>If you’ve got numbers or sources, share them. So far everything you provided was total bulshit.

so GPUs are getting more expensive again? RTX 5080 going from $1000 to $2000?

Do Americans actually enjoy this?

>>106855630
If the RTX 5080 is going to cost $2000, then that means it'll be twice as good. More expensive = better.

>>106855602
You can keep mashing your keyboard in all caps, but the trade data doesn’t change:
>167 tons consumed in 2021
>97 tons imported
>60% of imports from China
>Post-2023 controls: down to ~10 tons
If you’ve got numbers that contradict this, post them. A country can rid itself of china in a minutes if it wishes, something you can't accept at all, it seems.

>>106855640
Do Europeans obsess over Americans?

>>106855652
What does that mean for the Super launch? Nobody is going to pay $3000 for a rebadged 7900xtx.

>>106853090 (OP)
I don't know if this helps this will push China even further to attack Taiwan. China is lacking in AI and the only place that would help it is if they took Taiwan back.

>>106855630
Trump will backstep on some of the export restrictions for lithography machines and nothing changes

>>106855283
embarassing

What makes somebody act like this?

having fun with your crashing economy, gweilos? next time behave and don't play tariff games (because you WILL lose every time)

>>106855640
owning other countries just by existing? fuck yeah

>>106855695
Why do American men act like such hysterical women? The estrogen in their water?

>>106855802
because they can,

>>106855428
bush knocked down the towers

>>106853090 (OP)
>USA puts tariffs on China software
>China makes software open source
>People can get it for free
>Still beats made in us paid software
It's that easy, they did it with deepseek

>>106855802
diet of soi and hormone infused mcdonalds beef

>>106855399
This orange buffoon wants india to buy oil from the other side of the planet vs right next door? Is he brain delayed?

>>106855867
lol. I don't use a single Chinese made software product you are fucking delusional.

>>106855913
I didn't claim you did. Is the ego so large it has absorbed my words?

>>106855906
They can buy Pakistan oil)

>>106855932
Don't pakis need it for lubing boy and goat hole for rape?

>>106855704
kek, you can see just how much the tarrifs are destroying china's economy by how mad their shills get.

>>106855695
Visit from his dear friend Netanyahu if you didn't know. He always changes his views when he visits. He is explained how to behave as a president of Golem nation.

>>106855955
They need it to shoot down jeet jets.

>>106856003
Based

>>106856024
We seriously need them to wipe each other off the face of the map. Dunno why they stopped.

>>106855955
>need it for lubing boy and goat hole for rape
based

>>106855415
My MP Materials stock has been booming the last 3-6 months. I'm at a 62% gain

>>106855295
> China keeps it artificially cheap.
>artificially
>cheap
Still more expensive than the actual price though. If china even CAN "open the doors" that means that right now prices are artificially expensive.