Thread 106855834

FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

>W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
Same as W10 version except:
UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet/Scoop or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W10/W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>106813837

What can cause Windows to have about 30 seconds of "black screen, but monitor on" before the login screen is visible? I've seen it happen on a few systems

In the case of my own, it happens with the exception of
- rebooting after a BSOD
- the next boot after a (big?) update
- As I've recently discovered, rebooting to the UEFI

>>106855910
Actually, on further poking, that last one only happens if getting to the UEFI through shutdown /r /fw /t 0

>>106855834 (OP)
sex with shamiko
nakaԁashi with shamiko
impregnation with shamiko
marriage with shamiko

>>106855953
>UEFI
ngmi

>>106856401
Elaborate

>>106855834 (OP)
>not using 25H2 IoT LTSC customized with NTLite
do you even take your hobby seriously?

alright guys i'm gonna be honest and make a reddit tier question. I really don't wanna start over installing another OS not even w10 IoT right now. If I keep using my w10 pro without any security updates only to play vidya on steam and shitpost on 4chan. can I be raped by a pajeet only because my current OS is connected to the internet or everything should be fine as long as you don't download any malware? I heard some anons still use w7 to this day that's why I'm asking

>>106857533
unless some exploit has been found and hackers are waiting, or will be found in the future, you MIGHT be at risk. otherwise you'll be fine mate. I have no intention of moving from w10 where I've gutted it, no updates or defender etc. just know what you're downloading and you'll gold.

What is with _tprintf in all the windows docs? Isn't this not recommended?

How likely is it that microsoft will force local account installs to create ms accounts in the future through updates? Surely there are scenarios airgapped systems can't even work with ms accounts?

>>106858280
Highly likely since they're pushing against local accounts under the bad faith argument of security. I could however, see the EU telling to require updates regardless. The United fuckistan of America is absolutely fucked if MS decides that route.

>>106858280
i doubt they will force ms accounts for iot ones

>>106857533
if u are a schizo tier type, check how to set up applocker

can you remove a windows key from a system without windows being installed?
I installed Linux on this machine and forgot to remove the key with CMD but want to install windows on my new build and still use my old windows key.

>>106858913
If you have a Microsoft account, that opens a way to do so that usually goes pretty smoothly

>>106858947
>If you have a Microsoft account
nope

Only difference between 24h2 and 25h2 I've noticed so far is the inclusion of the 'edit' cli tool. But I assume that will eventually be backported.

Strangely the version number of edit is one patch beyond what is in its github repo.

>>106859139
Speak of the devil
https://github.com/microsoft/edit/issues/661

opinions on atlasos?
> Optimized Windows.
Designed for enthusiasts.

AtlasOS is creating a "kinder" Windows experience. Reducing bloatware and optimizing performance for enthusiasts, gamers, and privacy-conscious individuals.

>>106859180
It's just what gamebooster was in 2009, inevitably some tranny will make a little freeware program that does all the performance tweaks that AtlasOS claims to include without any of the gay branding.

>>106859646
WinUtil already exists, unfortunately Chris is not trans

Is 4TB of writes per year a lot for a system drive? Any way I could reduce them?

>>106855834 (OP)
This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.

https://atlasos.net/

>>106859912
Honest discussion question: What is the point of this besides adding more points of failure to Windows? It's not like they can make any real meaningful changes to the OS.

If you're downloading something like this I presume you're already more tech savy than the average person; why are you not just downloading a Linux distro, and possibly dual booting into an LTSC install if you need a native windows desktop for a game, or a specific program for work?

I as well, personally, have less trust in the security of the maintainers for something like this, versus a highly audited OS like Fedora, or Arch.

>>106859741
What are you using your machine for? It's all relative if 4TB is a lot, and it matters less depending on the size of the drive, and it's flash type.

Are you compiling on the drive? Is your browser on that drive? Video editing? Those do a lot of writing.

Do you have a page file on that drive, and does your system have low memory storage amount? You might be using your swap a lot.

Who updating win10 pro to iot?
I tried the guide above, didn't seem to work for me. Used this github script instead.
https://github.com/Bladez1992/LTSConvert

>>106860723
Linux is an illusion. With Arch, you're forced to update 10s of packages every week if you want to install something new. It's way bigger security risk than any windows and annoying as hell.
eg. I'm regretting that I binned my iot W11.

>>106860938
The massgrave guide worked perfectly for me even though I took my sweet time on the setup because it decided to look for updates

>>106857428
>NTLite
You do realise that NTLite just uses free MS tools

>>106857853
>Isn't this not recommended?
Only fairly recently with the _s variants

>>106858280
>How likely is it that microsoft will force local account installs to create ms accounts in the future through updates?
Zilch

>>106859180
May as well be malware. Remember ameliorated?

>>106860961
Did you download the iso and stuff? That is what the script seemed to do and also worked fine!

>>106861047
Yep.
>download LTSC iso with the same language as my install (it's fine if it's not IoT) and mount it
>run that registry command
>run setup
>make sure it says it's going to keep all files and apps
>wait a fuckton of time
And then you run massgrave again to re-activate Windows because it will need another licence.
Only weird thing I noticed is how it enabled all the things I had disabled on startup, but that's not really an issue

this
https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
still works to do an offline installation, right?
or is there a better method?

>>106861195
It's an unattend file maker. It just tells the installer what to do no matter if it's connected to the internet or not.

>>106861005
yes, that's a good thing

I am downloading w11 ltsc. So while I am wating, do I have to do anything to use local acount? I used to do the "Unplug and tell setup to install anyway" method.

>>106855834 (OP)
olev shamigo

>>106861452
Make the USB with Rufus, install it without being connected to the net at first, usual stuff.
You could try adding the ei.cfg file to the USB afterwards for peace of mind? The massgrave blog says what to add to the file.

>>106861465
> install it without being connected to the net at first, usual stuff.

Good to see that this method still work. I read that news about microsoft being a dick again so I wasn't so sure.

>>106861475
That won't effect Enterprise or Education editions

>>106861252
And yet they want to charge $40 for some click button GUI

I thought the bypassnro approach didn't work anymore on 25H2? But I was able to us it just fine if I was unplugged from Internet first

Easiest way to migrate data from a windows 10 pro install to a windows 11 install on a new PC? Would the old backup and restore (windows 7) tool work?

>>106861558
You should always be disconnected from the internet before you install

>>106861558
they haven't done any changes in the main channel, the patches are only in preview builds

I'm not looking to get off of Windows 10 for a while. I just activated ESU through tforge and I assume that'll give me a few more years, right?

Anyone else had an issue with downloading Win 10 IoT enterprise LTSC from massgrave? I get to about half way through and then the download stops with the error "could not be saved because the source file could not be read".

I read on the github for their activation scripts that some ISPs/DNS block access to their domains, and to have DNS over HTTPS, but it's already enabled for me in Firefox. Following the link provided in the Cloudflare documentation to check if it's configured properly, reports it as being set up properly. Would setting it up within my Windows make a difference?

I believe I ran into the same issue a while back when I wanted to do a clean reinstall of Win 10, so I never got around to doing it.

>>106862254
You get three more years of updates if you activate the ESU licenses, yes.

I can't get fullscreen exclusive mode to work in W11 with madVR unless I close explorer.exe, is there another workaround for this? I need it for some features to work properly

>>106862730
Try downloading it through os(dot)click instead.

>>106862829
It eventually worked after downloading again from the same source after three tries, but I'm still curious why it failed the first two. Back then I assumed it was because the site was down or something to do with their end.

>>106862843
I've seen a couple anons have issues with downloading from massgrave's repo while others download from it totally fine. Could've just tried at a bad time.

My Windows and Office is still activated by KMS_VL_ALL. Is there a reason to switch to Massgrave?

>>106862863
If it's activated and working fine then no there's no real need. The difference between that offline fake KMS activation and Ohook or TSforge is that they don't need to put a .dll file into system32 which can make Defender mad, they're much more quiet then that and don't actually change anything.

>>106862730
I downloaded it just fine like 2 days ago when I did the whole thing but first I got reminded that Firefox is ass for downloading things as it loves to just drop the connection at random. Moved to Edge and got it with no problem.

>>106862873
>If it's activated and working fine then no there's no real need.
Sounds good then, thank you anon.
>they don't need to put a .dll file into system32 which can make Defender mad
>they're much more quiet then that and don't actually change anything.
I see, in that case, if I ever reinstall Windows I should switch to Massgrave.

>>106863039
Yeah it's what I did. Changed over to MAS's methods after using KMS_VL_ALL for a good while for Office and Windows activation.
Not to say it's bad though because it still works fine, just less "clean."

>>106861460
That's a cute GIF. :3

>>106855834 (OP)
Sex with Shamiko

>>106861036
qrd on ameliorated?

>>106861452
If you're doing a vanilla install with iot ltsc, then select domain account but do not set password. If you set a password during install windows will require you to set up those stupid security questions. Rather, when you get to the desktop, hit ctrl+alt+del select change password to set your password without security questions.

>>106863900
Yeah I always don't set a password until I've set my install up how I like it

Should I use bulk crap uninstaller or bleachbit from the useful programs pastebin?

>>106864394
BCUninstaller is for uninstalling programs and a vast majority of the cruft they may leave behind that Windows' own installer doesn't bother with. Bleachbit is like CCleaner if it wasn't bloatware.

>>106864394
Neither, delete programs from settings, and if you are tech savvy enough delete leftover icons on desktop, start menu, and loose files left in file explorer's popular locations like Documents/Pictures/Music/Videos/ProgramData/Program Files/Program Files (32Bit)/Users-AppData. And if you are super autistic you can open registry editor select find and search the name of the program you installed to delete all the entries. But realistically most of these range from a few KB to a few MB at best and you don't need to clean them up at all. I would never trust a third party program that works in a way where it just searches for everything containing specific keywords and deletes it automatically to be safe to use. Windows for example comes with mozilla or adobe registry entries and file explorer folders/files out of the box and you would delete those too by using a third party program to delete firefox or adobe reader or something. Keep in mind the OP is written by low IQ tinfoil hat schizoids, you really shouldn't be using it as a resource. You would learn more just by using official microsoft docs and sticking to built-in tools to take care of your pc maintenance.

>>106864394
Revo Uninstaller

>>106855834 (OP)
does TSForge work without reinstalling? got an old laptop with official W10 home

>>106865089
TSforge as an activation stays around until a new feature pack is installed or you re-install your system. And if this Home install isn't activated you can activate it with TSforge, yes.

>>106865153
it's an OEM activation done many years ago (not my pc, it's my dad's). sorry for stupid questions, usually I just reinstall anyway but would rather skip it this time

>>106865252
You could always just change the edition away from Home to Enterprise or Education, then just activate with TSforge (or better yet HWID) after that.

>>106855834 (OP)
does win 11 ltsc really not have a built-in photo viewer? wtf

>>106865577
okay after wasting 15 minutes reading a bunch of retarded github tranny nonsense telling me to download 50 different things and run a bunch of moronic trannyscripts, the solution is very simple.

powershell command: wsreset -i

(had to run it twice, for some reason it didn't do anything the first time)

this invokes the download of the windows store. then i just searched for windows photo and downloaded/installed it in a single click.

It's over huh
I'm on windows 10 education
I don't want to reinstall
Why did they tell me to install education instead of ltsc back in 2022
it's ooooooooooover

anyone know if win10 LTSC will work with javelin anticheat?

>>106866520
Only thing what doesn't work on W10 iot LTSC is ironically xbox app because MS wants people to use W11. If you are unsure please read the system requirements for BF6, or spend few minutes to go through the steam discussions. People would complain if it didn't work.

jokes on microsoft i'm already on w11 because amd drivers are so dogshit on w10

>>106855834 (OP)
Hi guys, I just did
>Upgrade Windows 10 Home, Pro, etc editions to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 while keeping files and apps
Thanks to a kind anon here for telling me about it.
Now I'm doing
>How to Activate Windows / Office / Extended Updates (ESU)?
But it seems like Extended Updates sounds good if I want... updates for an extended time. So should I go with TSforge - Windows / Office / ESU, or HWID - Windows?

>>106866796
chat completion software says
>Since you've already upgraded to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021, you don't actually need Extended Security Updates (ESU) to keep getting security patches and updates—Microsoft provides official support for this edition all the way until January 13, 2032. That's over six years from now, covering the full lifecycle without any extra steps for extended updates beyond the standard end-of-support for consumer Windows 10 editions (which hits on October 14, 2025). ESU is mainly for folks sticking with non-LTSC versions of Windows 10 who want 1–3 years of paid security updates post-EoL
Is that true?

dreaming of the day when Microsoft finally adds a proper network manager with profiles for NICs

i tried using the massgrave link to dl iot win 10 that lasts until 2032 but the download didnt work

>>106865280
thanks, I did just the Forge and it seems to be working on the Home edition. will still have to bite the bullet and reinstall it some time next year, the shit is unusable (but of course dad thinks it's totally fine to wait two minutes for youtube to load)

>>106861023
Thank you sweetie.

>>106863078
You're a cute gif

>>106866908
>I tried using the massgrave link to dl iot win 10 that lasts until 2032 but the download didn't work
You can download the iso from the following magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0d8165158c22430ebb5c0afced1c37833877192a&dn=en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f.iso

Or you can search for en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f.iso on the internet. You can download the ISO from any source, but remember to check the SHA-256 hash of the downloaded file to verify its authenticity.

Dad's computer has eset antivirus and I cannot uninstall it. I looked online but apparently I need to install their antivirus uninstaller and then do some convoluted bullshit. Is there any other way to get rid of this shit without installing even more shitware?

>>106867200
>Is there any other way to get rid of this shit without installing even more shitware?
Maybe you should try portable versions of Bulk Crap Uninstaller or Revo Uninstaller.

Is this true /fwt/? Should I leave game bar installed on my gayming pc? W11 Enterprise.

I love Windows!

>>106867342
No, what is this. Goybar is bloat.

>>106867474
>I love Microshaft Winblows!

>>106866835
>Is that true?
Yes

ran tsforge
how do i check if it is activated or not and what should i expect to read

>>106856634
probably software hiccup, I'm used to seeing it in older systems, probably also video driver jank

>>106857979
>>>/b/
>>>/r/
>>>/wsr/
>>>/trash/

>>106868017
Did you not read the prompt when you ran MAS? It's right there.

>>106861952
USB flash drive, copy all relevant files over, web search if you don't know what relevant files are where in your system

>>106860959
different anon here, Ubuntu Just Werkz(TM)
That said, isn't Windows more versatile in what hardware works best with it?

>>106868657
>Did you not read the prompt when you ran MAS? It's right there.
well in the meantime i went into "check activation status" and got
>client-ESU-Year6 add-on
>client-ESU-Year2 add-on
>client-ESU-Year3 add-on
>client-ESU-Year1 add-on
all permanently activated
should it be like that (multiple times)?

>>106868717
hell yeah

>>106867342
Yes. Modern windows 11 for proper performance, and functioning features like auto-hdr, variable refresh rate, and utilization of CPU/GPU requires you to have a few things enabled and some disabled:
>https://performance.moddinglinked.com/falloutnv.html#DriversAndOS
You should update to the latest gpu driver, make sure your windows is activated and there's no overlay popup for activation, make sure game mode and game bar are enabled and functioning, make sure your power profile is set to balanced, and make sure any startup apps you don't need are disabled, and any overlays like discord, amd, steam disabled. You should also disable virtual machine platform, and memory integrity.

why didnt the top w11 iot link create separate partition on the usb with rufus. the bottom link created another partition.
what the hell is up with that?

>>106869197
Thank you for the info anon. From what you said and from that link, the only thing I still needed to do was turn off VMP and Memory Integrity, but when I went to check they were already disabled. I think that's because when I installed W11 I had Virtualization turned off in uefi.

>>106869508
Yep, Memory Integrity for my system only automatically activates if Vt-d is enabled, same with automatic bitlock encryption.

>>106860959
/g/ has a culture of liking gnu and linux, it's pointless trying to go against the grain they'll just sperg out and call you a shill or be buttmad and derail the thread with pointless screeching. But linux really isn't that great in the desktop sense at least, it's way too flawed, and linus himself has admitted that he thinks desktop linux is kind of DOA as long as no one solves the issue with software, it's insane to have systems where the user can't reliably use binaries and is expected to rely on a maintainer to package shit for him, and linuxtards only keep fragmenting more and more, at least at one point there was a whitepill that Ubuntu LTS would be the one to target, all the major laptops did, it was recommended by chrome, firefox, steam, etc. Then retards sperged out and started wanting to fellate fedora, then community-memes like arch/debian, then weird ass meme distros like nix/void. There's no end to their autism and fighting, and it'll just guarantee nothing ever gets solved. The peace of mind you get on a GAC or LTSC build of Enterprise on Windows 10 or 11 is just unmatched, every software and hardware works while you get zero annoying nagging as long as you bother to spend like 30 seconds applying group policies from privacyguides or the OP anon's ones. Linux security is also nowhere close to modern windows, even though security in general is kind of a meme, but still if mentioned it literally never goes in linux's favour lol.

>>106869577
buh buh buh....linux is so cool!!!

>>106869197
Why disable VMP and Memory Integrity? For better gaming performance?

>>106869915
nigga you could've just clicked on the link and found the info there, why do i need to spoonfeed you like you're a 3 year old

>>106855834 (OP)
>install w10 + office
>let it get all the updates it wants
>activate
>run meme privacy scripts
>firewall
>finally install my shit

its so simple yet it takes so long, how do you automate everything? or do you image your installs?

>>106869999
I reinstall my shit like once every 4-5 years when I'm doing a complete hardware upgrade. And at that point any image I save would be outdated as shit and there's no need to honestly do any prep, I can just do it manually and be done with it one saturday and two cups of coffee. Getting a clean enterprise iso with media creation tool, installing it with ethernet cable disconnected and a local account, applying group policy tweaks, restarting the computer, connecting the cable, grabbing all the updates, going on the web and grabbing amd drivers, newest c++ redist used by amd drivers if it needs updating, chrome, steam, jd2 and i'm already ready to go as I mostly get everything done inside chrome and all my vidya through steam/jd2, while my photos, music, videos are backed up on other HDDs. and as i'm downloading vidya or installing them from backup gog offline installers on other drives I go through the settings and make sure everything is nice and clean.

Installed 10 IoT LTSC yesterday and got this after I ran one of the script in the OP
Is this normal? How to now if there's an update? Or I did something wrong and need to reinstall?

>>106870342
Looks like you ran a script that destroyed Windows Update. Guess you gotta install updates from the MS Update Catalog.

MAS is so consistently uberbased, does it really give ESU without needing an online Windows 10 account?

>>106870363
I'm too retarded for that. Guess I need to reinstall then.

Is there still a way to install Windows 11 without an account?

Or were those articles railing M$ actually serious?

>>106870410
Yes, you can just use its TSforge module to get the three years of updates on a local account.

>>106870558
Either make a boot USB using Rufus with the ISO you can get from the MS website or use the MAS repo to download a Business ISO to install Enterprise straight up.

Im still 22h2
But i want to receive security updates till 2031
Is this possible

>>106869197
I'm safe to disable GameDVR? Article doesn't mention it.

>>106869925
I'll take that as a yes then.

>>106870860
No, 22H2 will only get updates until late 2028 via ESU. 21H2 i.e. IoT LTSC 2021 will get updates until 2032.

>>106870884
ESU only up to October 2026?

How do you get LTSC safe and cheapest btw?

>>106870904
You need to not be on Home to get the updates until 2028. You can easily change your edition.

Any internals experts here?

>>106870587
>Yes, you can just use its TSforge module to get the three years of updates on a local account.

Why would anyone not do this?

>>106870913
I think the MAS launcher I was using could change your version too.

>>106870978
More techy type people in the know probably are, though for single users MS doesn't really give a shit because actual businesses are going to be paying for these ESU licenses en masse.

>>106870978
I was feeling too lazy to try fixing a weird error that I was getting with Windows updates anyway and I figured that just doing the thing to move to LTSC would reinstall enough of Windows to fix it so that's what I went with
And it actually worked

>>106867342
Game mode isn't a power mode just a setting (in settings). The game bar will just automatically turn it on and off for you.

>>106869197
>You should also disable virtual machine platform, and memory integrity.
Yes anon let the "DRM" rootkit in and be happy.

>>106869999
I use scoop for most of my software. scoop has vcredist-aio, snappy driver installer origin, and shutup10. it also has powertoys, winget, and windows terminal.
As for activation, I don't really need to activate since most installs are reinstalls anyways.
Office is easy with mas and custom install (I only use word, ppt, excel)
Firewall isn't really needed, I just use default.

Guys what the fuck is this frowny face in my start menu???

Is this StartAllBack's way of urging me to donate or some shit? Because all it's done is scare the shit out of me.

okay actually I figured it out before the captcha timer ticked down
apparently I have run out of my "trial period" for StartAllBack
whatever Im still gonna make this post

>>106871263
You're going to have to give more information because no one knows wtf that is

>>106871327
>startallback
Oh okay
more reason to never leave 10 and stick with open shell until I die

>>106871263
Look up startallback process monitor on github and combine that with the task scheduler to run the command everyday at 00:00 and on logon.

>>106870925
Whose internals?

is there a way to "catch" special key inputs and replace them. IE i want to be able to use the fn arrow key layer and hit wasd at the same time without triggering the layered keys on wasd

>>106869999
>>106871170
save your scoop config and have chatgpt write a script specifically for fresh installs

I was on unactivated Windows 10 for an year. Should I activate it when there is still one day?

>>106872176
Why did you not just activate it when it's so easy to do. You have no excuse to not just use MAS.

>>106857533
Just use the ESU activator and you'll be fine for a couple more years.

>>106871414
maybe with autohotkey?

>>106871414
>>106872327
AHK expert here: I very much doubt the Fn key registers as a real key.

>>106871414
sometimes FN is embedded into the firmware and only presents the output (like the GK6X series)
check what they use on the manufacturer site

>>106869577
Finally someone saying this. This board feels more like a mental ward sometimes. The repository paradigm was never meant for desktops, it was always meant for terminals/servers/etc which are always online, it's just retarded using it on the desktop. Other OSes, even mobile ones, have figured this out decades ago.
Windows is still the way and for deeper reasons than the surface "it just werks" or "it doesn't just werks". MacOS is fine too if you hate Windows that much.

>>106855834 (OP)
any opinion about windows 7? I consider installing it again bc I hate windows 11 but I need one windows insall for work, since one program doesnt run on linux. How is it safety wise?

>>106872851
7 is by fair the best version of Windows that MS ever made. You can barely use it in the modern day though unless you don't mind elbow grease with your computer usage.
Installers like the Updates v5 ISO help with getting all the updates it ever got plus drivers for shit like USB3 and NVMe to technically use it well enough, but a vast majority of shit these days doesn't support it anymore.

>>106872851
What Linux distro/desktop env are you using? I thought I was a real nerd but I absolutely hate anything I've tried plus even with minimal install I needed to configure my .bashrc, mounts, Nvidia drivers, kernel parameters for a week before I was happy. Arch linux. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.
I wouldn't want go back to W11 because my disks are ext4 now. Otherwise I'd probably reinstall tonight. Still have usb stick ready.

The beatings of install.wim will continue until Windows 11 becomes usable.

Is it possible to upgrade from Windows 10 LTSC IoT to Windows 11 LTSC IoT without doing a reinstall?

>>106873233
It's upgrading from IoT LTSC to IoT LTSC so you can just in-place upgrade with a mounted ISO.

>>106873241
>in-place upgrade with a mounted ISO
What do you mean by that?

>>106873269
Mount the ISO and run the setup.exe
Make sure you tell it to not install updates, do that when you enter the new environment

>>106873276
Huh, I didn't know Windows ISOs had a setup.exe you could just run like that, thanks.

>>106873282
I just want an exe file.

>>106867802
Thanks!

Anons, can I get a key for Windows 11 pro?
I had to change my motherboard and I have no other pc right now to get the Key myself

>>106873617
masgrave, you asshat!

>>106873617
Just use the activator in the OP, anon.

So your telling me that even in EU I need to use a MS account to get the free updates?

>>106873617
>a key
Nigga, what are you doing?
Just activate with MAS HWID

>>106873634
The EU made MS give everybody the one year of updates -if- you're logged with an MS account. You can also use MAS to get the whole three years on a local account if you have Pro and above.

My activation was off like 1 month ago. Is activation server still working?

>>106873858
Didn't you hear? Massgrave guy was arrested.

I'm looking to update to either W11 or W10 IoT. Which is better?

>>106873617
111-1111111

is there a way to get around the tpm 2.0 module requirement? a friend bought a copy of win11 and it won't let him install it

>>106874092
There's some registry entries you can add within the USB setup that make it ignore requirements like TPM. Also if you make a USB with the tool Rufus then it can automatically add said entries while it makes the boot USB.

>>106874092
Use Rufus to create usb for example. It has an option to force it.

>>106874111
>>106874106
thanks guys. appreciate it!

Can ESU be activated at any moment?

>>106874422
Yes, you can run MAS's TSforge module at any time.

>>106857533
just don't go to shady porn sides or click ads and you should be fine
if your internet activity is just steam, 4chan, youtube etc the risk is minimal

I've had windows updates blocked for years on my pc and nothing happened. No jeet hacker suddenly raping me.

>>106874512
my thoughts exactly. given the poor state of updates breaking things in just about everything, not just MS (nvidia really dropped the ball) these days, I don't understand everyone's obsession with being up to do and 'safe until 2032' or whatever it is.
>>106874520
case in point.
there are business use cases for it obviously, but for the average joe who's not a complete moron, they'll be fine.

>MAS

are you all seriously running kernel level scripts from strangers lol

>>106875024
>i am very smart about subjects i know nothing about

>>106855834 (OP)
How do I install Windows 10 IoT? I'm not well versed in any of this.

>>106875411
I try to download the .iso and it says I have no space in the USB I select - but I have 60gb.

>>106875464
fat32?

>>106873617

it works without one then you make phone call from work to ms servicenumber?

>>106875024
anons uncle works at microsoft

>>106871400
That loli's internals

>>106872491
>feels more like a mental ward
The whole of 4chan became one over the years.

Say what you want about Linux, Ubuntu rocks and is a solid OS for desktop/laptop.

What's a good way to sync two different folders so that I don't have to copy and paste an entire folder to make sure it's all backed up on a different drive?

>>106875658
rsync

>>106875024
did you mean to post this in the linux general

>>106860938
Thanks for this. It worked perfectly for me.

i'm upgrading from win 10 education edition to win 10 iot enterprise ltsc, but the thing's been stuck on this fucking screen for literally 10 minutes. am i fucked?

>>106855834 (OP)
>How do I activate Windows?
>HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
>github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
>Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.
>irm https://get.activated.win | iex

Will this still work after the 14th?

I'm back after years since my usecase has changed and Linux wasn't cutting in.

Anyways, what are your favorite tools for winblows? I'm using nomacs for an image viewer and voidtools everything for search since windows search is still irredeemable slop. any other qol stuff I should grab?

>>106877294
probably not for the non LTSC versions, but they did say LTSC gets updates until 2032

>>106877523
i run
imageglass for imageviewer
speedcrunch for calculator
notepad++ for generic note taking (fuck winpad and word)
qbittorrent for generic torrenting
sumatraPDF for reading PDF, EPUB, etc (use adobe if you need to edit it, or make sure it looks good on regular people's computers)

>>106877679
>sumatraPDF
recently tried this out and wow it's good. epub, mobi, pdf, cbz, eats them up like candy. the 'I' keyboard shortcut to invert colours is a godsend for darkfags like me. great program and portable.

>>106867164
NTA but based helper i kneel

Help a broda out...
How do I get picrel listed on win recovery env. so I can, well, recover it?

Greetings WinChads,

In Win10 LTSC, is there any way to only ever accept security updates?

>>106877930
Btw, bootrec can't find any partition (0 listed), though windows boots fine

Will my Windows install get nuked if I move all Winevt logs to a ram disk?

>>106877667
Shami Monday

>>106870925
it should be mandatory to read Windows Internals to post in this thread

I know this gets asked all the time but what happens if I don’t upgrade?

>>106879383
pajeets and zhangs will hack the shit out of your pc

>>106879383
Your PC explodes, your house burns down, your family dies, you have to live under a bridge and suck old men cocks to survive. Windows 11 doesn't sound so bad now does it?

>>106879416
How? What if I’m subscribed to a good antivirus program?

Windows suddenly stopped automatically launching literally every program scheduled to start on login. Even if they're shown as enabled in the startup tab in the task manager it still refuses to launch them. What do?

>>106855834 (OP)
Does Rufus's bypass measures still work with Windows 11, without fucking up something during the install or later on. My grandma has a PC that doesn't fit W11 requirements and all her drives are formatted in NTFS.

>>106879383
ask japan, which still has PCs running winxp

>>106880336
Yes, they work with 11. You gotta remember that 10 and 11's inner codebases are basically identical in a vast amount of ways.

For some reason I cant get the Iot LTSC 2022 upgrade to work. Like it updates but my system still says its 21H2. Am I messing something up here?

>>106879638
Check Event Viewer for errors first, then try a restart. If that doesn't work, chkdsk/dism/sfc trio.

I really don't feel like upgrading, I just want to stay on Enterprise 10

>>106859253

do they make custom default document these days

>>106880735
Just activate ESU with TSforge for 3 more years of security updates

>>106869577
Linux is cool
Windows is cool
Both are great OS's
Just use what fits you
I use both and I'm happy
And fuck macOS

Ok, I'm fucking sick of 4chan captcha always corrupting on Firefox and requiring me to constantly clear site data in order to post. What browser should I move onto next that has decent ad block and sync support on mobile?

>>106880977
Well I'm on Firefox and I've never had issues with 4chan's captchas. Seems to be something on your Firefox install's end.

>>106880824
Is TSforge a part of the Massgrave activation?

>>106881030
Yes, TSforge is one of MAS's modules.

>>106880987
It started before I had to reinstall Windows from fresh and lost all my data, but it still happens on my new installation. I doubt it's an install problem since it happens in both Firefox and zen

>>106880386
>2022
Do you actually need this? Are there not some questions re: breaking automatic update support if this is installed?

Asking because I myself am not sure, someone redpill me on this. I am in the middle of switching to 10 LTSC from 11 LTSC because I just can't stand 11 and it's shitty UI performance.

>>106880977
>>106881057
Might want to check your drive's health. Appears to be a hardware issue

>>106881067
Error check in the drive properties showed no errors found when scanning, so don't think that's the issue

>>106877791
yeah it's peak
protip: you can change the background color by editing the config json file it spits out, i have it set to a very comfy color

>>106877930
C'mon, anons, need to set oem recovery partition entry as boot/recovery/etc option, to restore the pc to factory default.

>>106877791
same. the invert shortcut is amazing, wish it would support an actual dark mode, but considering that not even Acrobat does, it makes the invert option even cooler

Even if ESU is free in EU, that you can get it by giving MS your soul, and that there's like 10 tricks to get more support...

farewell, Windows 10 (2015 - 2025)

>>106877791
sumatrapdf is great. However I prefer Readest for non-document reads, as in books and stuff.

Am I chilling now?

>>106881574
You'll have updates until 2032, so yes.

>>106881579
Am I supposed to still have the microsoft store app?

>>106881645
You have to install it, but it's pretty easy:
https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

Don't forget to run PowerShell as admin or else it won't work (Win+X, then click on Windows PowerShell (Admin))

>>106881708
I'm saying that I have the app already

>>106881715
You're not supposed to have it from a clean LTSC install, but if you did the GAC to LTSC upgrade where you enter a command and run setup.exe from a mounted ISO then you should keep everything you had on your install

>>106881736
Thx

https://github.com/abbodi1406/ConsumerESU
No need for accounts

>>106881776
Wonder why aboddi made this when TSforge already existed. Cool I guess.

>>106881776
Did you even read the page you linked to kek?

>>106855834 (OP)
Fellas and Ladies, what's the most reliable software to clone your Windows drive into an image file and re-image it onto the drive.
I'm going to install two Linux partitions onto my laptop and would like to be able to just put it all back if I mess something up.
AND can it be done without physically taking the drive out of the machine?
I've been looking into AOMEI backupper but unsure. Been about 20 years since I used disk image software and back then it was Alcohol 120%

>>106882002
clonezilla

>>106882002
Clonezilla's good, AOMEI is also good choice.
And yes all you need to do is just use something like HirenBootCD which includes programs like AOMEI in a WindowsPE environment so you can easily image clone the install to an external drive or something.

>>106882066
>>106882080
Thank you very much.
Also with AOEMI, correct me if i'm wrong, but both the Backupper and the Partition Manager tools can be used to image the disk, can't they? The Partition Manager just giving you a bit more options to deal with putting it on bigger disks and such?

>>106882093
I mean it's in the names. One's focused on creating/editing partitions and the other is focused on making disk images.

>>106882093
*Partition Assistant
>>106882104
I was searching and there were sites claiming you could "Create an image" using Partition Assistant but I can't see it in the program itself. Seemed redundant to have both programs but they appear to serve different purposes.
Thanks again.

>>106882205
The partition one is focused on cloning the install to another drive to use as such, while the backupper is focused on turning installs into image files.

>>106857533
Activating ESU takes 2 minutes.
>>106858913
Might as well just use MAS instead, now you have an excuse to use Enterprise Edition.

>>106872222
Dammit, did I convert my Pro to IoT LTSC for nothing? Not like it makes any difference though

>>106882509
IoT LTSC has updates until 2032.

>>106882526
Yeah but I think at some point I'll probably switch to W11, 2-3 more years is what I needed. We'll see I guess, maybe there won't be much issues with W10 compatibility long-term.

>>106882564
You could just change to IoT LTSC 2024 at any time via in-place upgrading

>>106870526
Let this be a lesson don't run random privacy scripts. Use something like ShutUp10++ instead it's retard proof everything can easily be undone, it explains what every option does and has recommended settings.

>turn on PC
>window open and closes immediately on boot up
Bros should I be concerned? Is this a sign of anything or am I being paranoid?
Windows 11.

>>106871054
Any in-place-upgrade would probably have worked. These kinds of upgrades replace your system files with the ones in the provided ISO so I'm not surprised it worked.

>>106869999
scoop or winget scripts, also unattend.xml for more granular tweaks.

>>106877930
It would help if you actually gave some info about your install. Is it an original OEM install with associated recovery partition still in place?

Also you can always just setup a USB to recover.

>>106882680
What window? Did you just install something? Some software will run some final setup on next reboot at login, you can check for this in task scheduler though it may have deleted the task after successful completion.

Has anyone figured out why microsoft paint is so terrible at resizing images
Why do I need to save image at full 4k size in paint, then open it in ifranview and use its resizing tool to get images that dont look fucking terrible for 4chan

its just a waste of time. What prevents microsoft from adding whatever lines of code ifranview has into paint so billions of people using the tool have a better 4chan workflow?

>decide to update win10 pro to win11 just to get it out of my head and not have to worry about end of support bullshit
>autoupdates to win11 pro
>nothing bad happens
>keeps local account
>no ads
>no AI bullshit that I can't uninstall
>fix rightclick menu with a single powershell command some retard on reddit posted after google searching
Was I lied to? This isn't nearly as terrible as everyone keeps making out.

>>106883918
The OP is a notorious fudder who just hates 11 on principle. The codebases are so similar that changing from 10 to 11 is seamless.

Hotaru uses Windows 11 Pro.

>>106856393
Order of activities should, nay, must be reversed.

so education is not getting ESUs?

>>106884675
Everything except Home has access to all the ESU licenses.

so does this mean I'm good now? kraut btw

>>106884819
If you're using Home while connected to an MS account and a part of the EU, you'll basically get a year of updates legitimetly for free.

>>106884840
I'm on Pro, but yeah I am connected to an MS acc, so I guess that's a yes
good to know, cheers

>>106884865
Yeah Pro as well, basically either/or.

>>106855834 (OP)
How do I activate ESU?

>>106884986
Run the OP's irm command in an admin powershell. Use the TSforge module.

>>106884986
You have to wait until tomorrow.

>>106884675
>>106884703
MAS can activate ESU on Home since MAS 3.5, but you should upgrade to Enterprise anyway because there's no reason not to

>>106883671
Yes,the original manufacturer's oem partition (>>106881410); all seems fine with it and I have no problem resetting windows itself, but some settings are missing and am trying to restore the pc to factory default.

>>106885054
Enterprise and Workstation; what's the difference and should I change it (currently p4w)? Turns out I have both "purchased" on the app store...

>>106885268
10, that is...

GRAVEMASS GIVE ME 6 MORE YEARS OF SUPPORT. AND MY LIFE...IS YOURS

Best way to prevent W11 updates? Maybe pausing it for more than 5 weeks?
By "best" I mean the least "hack-y" way, and without requiring third party programs, like changing something in group policy, or at worst, a single registry edit. My current install of Enterprise is running flawlessly and I don't want a update ruining it.

>>106885857
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-wu-settings#installing-updates

>>106885876
Perfect. Thanks anon!

My friend updated to windows 11 and I can't help him fix this until the weekend. I can get him windows 10 again but will activation scripts still work?

Thank you Microsoft bros.

>"Oh right, I did turn off auto updates some time ago, maybe I should address that"
>"Wait, since when I am running a fucking education version of Win10?"
I wonder if I can keep this shit running for another year without updates as I wanted to build a new PC near the end of next year anyway.

>>106884986
go to windows defender settings and you can activate it there, but you need an account, otherwise you have to do the scripts

>>106886368
What's there to fix, sounds like you're good

I have windows 10 pro on my PC now, how can I change to W10 IoT LTSC without losing any data?

>>106886473
Just upgrade to Windows 11.

Every modern processor has fTPM in it. Check your BIOS.

It's finally our day windows 11 bros.

>>106886530
no one on /g/ actually uses Win11

We'll finally beat w10 in usage stats this week for sure

i just wanna make sure before i run powershell commands because i'm retarded and on W10 Home (don't want to change to LTSC right now)
>open powershell
>irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>select TSforge
>activate 3 years ESU
>done

>>106887037
I just did this, and it seems to have done the trick. Only confusion is this: this page in settings still acts like I have to enroll in ESU. But I opened up the massgrave dialog again and it suggests that all ESU years are now activated.

has any remainer bro been hacked yet

I'm so fucking contrarian that I just did a clean install of W10 Pro with no ESU on my old laptop. Just to let ms know I don't give a fuck. If it starts nagging I'll put LTSC back on it.

>>106887670
ok zoomer

I hacked that guy and deleted his post

>>106870884
I'm on IoT LTSC and did this shit: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7 (upgraded to 22h2 via package)
Feel like I shouldn't have, but this system still should receive upgrades till 2032 right?

>>106887746
you will find out next month when november updates roll out

I'm not gonna update to windows 11.

I have a laptop with the IoT LTSE, but I will keep my main desktop on regular Win10 since I mostly just use it for gaming.

Microshit can eat a bag of dicks.

am i the only one who LIKES windows 11

>>106888024
Yes

IT'S PATCH TUESDAY

LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR PATCH TUESDAY

>>106888024
probably,
do old games work on windows 11? heard some people were having issues

realistically how long until steam drops support for win 10?
iirc for win 7 it was 4 years and for win xp 3 years after end of microsoft support

>>106888353
that would kill half the userbase, unlikely to end soon

>>106888353
Crazy amount of people are still using W10 and are getting extended support shit. I feel like no earlier than 2029 or something like that.

HELP MEEE MY WINDOWS 10 LAPTOP SPROUTED LEGS AND WALKED OUT OF MY HOUSE! IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VIRUS! I KNEW I SHOULDVE SWITCHED TO LINUX! I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!!!!

>>106871263
Go pirate startallback

>>106888422
hello saar your laptop is property of republic of bharat now
please buy new windows 11 one from great satya nadella
thank you

I have an activated/valid Win10 Pro license on my machine, but I haven't been able to upgrade from 22H2 or do Windows updates forever.

I have everything super stripped down and I've been so happy with it. Is LTSC IoT really necessary? If so, am I looking at a full re-install or is there a method to upgrade without doing that?

>>106888509
>Is LTSC IoT really necessary? If so, am I looking at a full re-install or is there a method to upgrade without doing that?
https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol#windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2021
Did IoT LTSC upgrade around a week ago from my 22h2 pro and felt pretty much zero difference.

>>106888557
Thanks fren

>>106888671
yw anon
I'd still do a backup before upgrading (I did) but for me it was a very seamless process

I'm gonna put windows 11 back on my laptop. Do i need to bother with downloading drivers from the manufacturer, or are the ones already in windows good enough?

Can I get esu for my current windows 10 but then duel boot windows 10 LTSC as a back-up? I definitely have enough sqace, so I'm sure it will partition properly right?

>>106888353
the only reason steam dropped W7 is because chrome dropped W7 and steam is reliant on chromium to function
so the answer is either: when chrome drops W10 or when steam drops chromium

>Upgraded to Windows 11
Mouse is constantly missing clicks. If wants to start a dragdrop instead of registering the click. It was ok on 10.

Is there a way to remedy this?

>>106888024
>copilot
>adobeslop
>runescape
its so over for you it never really even began

>>106855834 (OP)
does that massgravel activation script get blocked by defender as a trojan for anyone else?

>>106889728
it shouldn't in most cases

>>106889296
Buy a new mouse.
Those are not correlated.

>>106889728
If it is just add to exclusions.

how hard is it to tweak/debloat W11 pro?
It comes preinstalled and I can either install linux instead of or alongside it.

>>106889296
>Is there a way to remedy this?
Upgrade to Windows 10.

>>106885249
Does bcdedit properly list all your boot options?

>>106882485
>Activating ESU takes 2 minutes.
How much telemetry are they taking from me?

>>106888024
No

>>106881536
>that you can get it by giving MS your soul
I mean, I have an MS account because of xbox live, what extra info are they "needing"?

>>106855834 (OP)
Quick question, for the IoT LTSC 2022 manual upgrade tutorial here, do I need to already be on W10 Enterprise to make it work? I use Education instead.

>>106889847
>how hard is it to tweak/debloat W11 pro?
Very easy
>OEM preinstalled
My condolences.

>>106890213
>My condolences
qrd?
should I buy a laptop without OS?

>>106890258
Bunch of bloatware and ads preinstalled
>it's not too late to sign up for your extended warranty!
Why should the preinstalled OS matter? You can either uninstall all your OEM applications or just do a reinstall.

>>106890258
He's just being dramatic. You can just install win11 iot ltsc on it. Then go to your manufacturer's site for the drivers or use snappy driver installer origin (SDIO). Of course you'll also need to activate with MAS (see OP). The activation will persist through reinstalls of ltsc but some manufacturers have the oem key in the uefi of the motherboard so if you decide you want pro again it will also activate automatically.

>>106890376
>>106890382
I guess you're right, I was just being lazy and didn't want to install W11 if I had one out of the box

>activate ESU through massgrave couple of weeks ago
>check the windows update now
>it tells me my OS won't receive security updates
what the fr*ck

>>106890656
https://massgrave.dev/tsforge#i-activated-esu-with-the-tsforge-option-but-the-windows-update-page-in-settings-still-asks-me-to-enroll-why
same anon, but we're safe I think.

one question though is it better to just go to the LTSC now or just use 3 years of the ESU and then see what my options are. maybe I'll upgrade my pc by then capable of windows 11.

Anons I followed the steps of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edhI8Tewgc8 and the option to enroll still wont appear, and now i dont remember the original numbers in the registry editor, do i have to wait or its over for me?

>>106890711
are you in eastern europe?

>>106882526
I'm literally using IoT LTSC 2021 and it still shows this message. Stop spreading misinformation.

They're doing scareware tactics even on ltsc? Nigga wat

>>106890185
I asked you niggers a question.

>>106890992
What command is that?

So I've been on Windows 11 LTSC IoT for a while now, but I want to go back to Windows 10 LTSC IoT.
It's a no-brainer as to why I should, right? Or would you recommend I stay on my current build at the moment (24H2)?

>>106891034
Dism /Online /Get-CurrentEdition

>>106890992
>>106890978
Typical Microsoft fuck up, i'm sure it will be fixed by next patch tuesday.

I've been daily driving Windows 7 since day one with no issues until very recently. My current computer was built in 2019; my SSD is 256gb. My friend gave me a 1tb SSD and I intend to dual boot Windows 11 using an ISO from the op post (unless someone has a better idea), but I would like to still keep 7 as my main OS. I'm not sure which OSes to put on which drives, or how to do any backups. I have an external drive on which I install programs and games and such, which I would like to work with both systems if possible. What's the best setup to have in this scenario?
I'm pretty tech illiterate beyond setting this stuff up, and knowing to disable internet during installation. The only immediate hurdles I can think of are setting up my drawing tablet which I sometimes use as a second monitor, and dealing with my 24 year old midi synthesizer.

>>106891038
unless you have latest intel cpu, w11 really offers no benefit.
i tried 11 as well but god damn it is sluggish, 10 is just snappier and everything happens the instant you click and menu items arent hidden behind million extra clicks like they are in 11

we could probably talk forever about edge cases like drivers etc. but just use 10 iot until everything drops support to it and switch to linux.

>>106890151
Boot manager and windows; /enum all actually lists recovery, but then why doesn't it set up customized oem stuff, and installs just plain system instead?

>>106890992
>Enterprise*S*
Windows S is crippleware

>>106890978
>>106890992
lol I was gonna ask the same thing. The update today need restart then I saw picrel.

>>106885268
>>106885273
Sorry, I went to bed
Enterprise has the most features. You can compare editions here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions#Comparison_chart

you are all niggers

>>106891211
>but then why doesn't it set up customized oem stuff, and installs just plain system instead?
If that is what its doing when you boot into it then that is what your OEM has set as their recovery image. Not just the reset button in Windows settings, you need yo restart and enter the recovery image, usually you press F12, ESC or something while booting to bring up the menu and select the OEM recovery option from there.

>>106891231
lmao what a pathetic scare tactic, then they're gonna fix that and claim it was an ''bug'' all along
>haha guys just a bug ;D