Thread 106857413

Windows 10 was released over 10 years ago, it is completely reasonable for Microsoft to end support for a decade old OS.

>But muh hardware requirements!
None of the hardware requirements are a big ask and you know it?

>statement voiced as a question
ok. woman. got it. opinion discarded.

>>106857424
I made a typo

>>106857413 (OP)
>10 years ago
it's nothing, why should I be bothered every 10 years? Computers are mature and stable now, stop bothering me about an OS, it's not like going from Windows 3.1 to XP.

>>106857413 (OP)
its still 48% market share.
what kind of a company shits on 48% of its customers?

>>106857413 (OP)
would you buy a new Fridge Freezer just because it required new updated software?
fuck off jeetfrog

>>106857413 (OP)
absolutely agree
but why deliberately shit out an even worse iteration every single fucking time?

>Microsoft dont even sell PC hardware
>force their customers to buy new PC hardware
total fucking scam. these cunts are in league with the likes of Dell, Acer, and other hardware manufacturers.
dont EVER buy Microsoft products again, pirate ALL their slop

>>106857581
They had 3 years to switch, they should have been informed, it is their responsibility.
>>106857590
>>106857677
For most people upgrading will not require new hardware as long as they have a computer that isn't from the stone age.

>>106857712
nobody throws away a working device for another version of Windows 10 with a prettier interface you retard.

Windows 11 offers NOTHING that Windows 10 cant do

>>106857413 (OP)
My computer was released in 2012 and I have no plans to upgrade.

>>106857413 (OP)
>Windows 10 was released over 10 years ago,
fuck me you're right. what the fuck.

>>106857413 (OP)
>Windows 10 was released over 10 years ago, it is completely reasonable for Microsoft to end support for a decade old OS.
Considering they support fork of that system as Windows 11, I don't find your argument particularly convincing.

>>106857677
>I refuse to grow as a human being
>therefore, I'll not upgrade the components of my 10yo+ toaster and force the multi-billion company to support my shit until the end of time
>I'll behave like a subhuman and steal their intellectual property if they don't play along with my mental gymnastics (read: poorness)
As much as I hate M$ and how badly they've been handling W11's AI bullshit, your argument is completely indefensible.
Nobody is forcing (You) to buy new hardware, since anything released after 2018 is perfectly compatible with W11.
You're throwing a tantrum just because your old AMD FX DDR3 trash can is now at the verge of obsolescence and you've done absolutely nothing to improve your rig over the past 10+ years.
If you don't have the resources to buy a cheap AM4 Mobo, two DDR4 ram sticks and a Zen1 Ryzen CPU, complaining about W10's EoL should be the LEAST of your worries.
Get your shit together and stop trying to rationalize your poor life choices.

there are two acceptable ways of using windows on your computer
>1: as a dedicated gaming machine
no personal data, no emails, nothing important logged in, basically a console device like a playstation or an xbox
>2: in a virtual machine
your main computer runs macos or linux and you have some software that either only runs on windows or has a better version with more features on windows
if you actually subject yourself to interact with microsoft windows in any other way you're basically a retarded nigger desu

>>106858889
>Nobody is forcing (You) to buy new hardware, since anything released after 2018 is perfectly compatible with W11.
I put together a working gaming PC in 2019 and it cannot run 11.

windows is the same base since NT was pulled out and the same component still here since XP.
and are we not in the IA era? whats the excuses to not using it to release new updates ?

>>106857712
>they should have been informed
they were informed is the thing, theres two reasons why it is as it is:
- people refuse to trash their perfectly functioning device (which by your definition is already stone age)
- people refuse to switch either out of protest or because of tough experiences with 11 (those who DID switch switched to linux)

>>106857791
i actually disagree, matter of fact, windows 11 offers a WORSE alternative to what 10 can already do

>>106858753
every new version is a fork of a previous one, i can call windows 10 a distant fork of windows vista and i wouldn't be wrong

>>106857413 (OP)
No, is not reasonable. If they don't want to support it then MS must lose all copyrights and must be forced to publish the source with a GPLv3 license.

>Windows 10 will be the last version of windows!!
>Lmao we lied and also we preparing win12 get ready folks!

>>106858936
I literally have a 2019 Ryzen 3 iGPU toaster in my living room whose entire purpose is to be a Netflix/PCSX2 machine, and it runs W11 24H2 just fine
I refuse to believe your """"gaming PC""" can't do the same (assuming it exists and/or isn't just a mumbo jumbo of parts from the early 2010's)

>>106857413 (OP)
>None of the hardware requirements are a big ask
It's a big ask to be left with no alternative, especially for old people or clueless normies. This causes them to throw perfectly usable hardware away to buy new garbage. The e-waste this is already causing is tremendous.

>>106859019
>Windows 10 will be the last version of windows!!
The 10 years of support was know from the start.
But the marketing obviously didn't mention that.

>>106859019
The backdoors for the glowies got exposed and those had to be fixed. That is why they had to release a new Windows, with brand new holes.

>>106858889
>buying software iteratively is growing as a human being
>le facebook frog dot webpee
Indian hands typed this

>>106858916
>your main computer runs macos
Found the rabid itoddler

>>106859053
>buying hardware* iteratively is growing as a human being
It fundamentally is.
Otherwise, people wouldn't buy faster cars, bigger houses, smart appliances, and other kinds of technological tools that made their lives easier
If your PC is responsible for a portion of your income (assuming you have a job in tech), then investing in better, faster parts is imperative if you want to perform better and grow as a professional
throw all the ad hominems you want if you wish to deny reality, but you know damn well I'm speaking facts

>>106857581
A company that knows anybody stupid enough to have put up with that garbage for a whole decade has no standards so it doesn't quite matter what they do to them. Live by the slop, die by the slop.

Is there a work around for needing to turn on TPM?
Apparently my hard drive isn't formatted properly for it or something, and I can't be arsed to do.the conversion.

>>106857413 (OP)
>Windows 10 was released over 10 years ago
Where did the time go? I wasted my life.

>>106857413 (OP)
no one cares,
anyone with a brain already switched to some Linux distro.

>>106858889
Why is it always Rajeesh Sukdeek defending billion-dollar corporations on 4chan? You're not getting your job back. The US is 100% white now.

>>106859293
can you point out the exact sentence where I pledge my loyalty to M$ and their dogshit OS, or will you keep calling me names just because I pointed out how the only people who complain about "unsupported hardware" are brokies with unresolved life issues?
I have little to no simpathy for people had 10+ years to buy new parts and chose to do absolutely nothing to improve their PCs
You're no different than the entitled 7fags who think the world owes them a life-long support line just because they cannot afford a $300-400 AM4 rig that will perform 2x-3x better than whatever trash they've running in their mom's basement.

>>106859568
Proposing to throw away perfectly functional hardware because microshaft says so makes you a fucking consumerist faggot. Not a single time you asked yourself if these people want to "improve" anything,

it's not a matter of affording an upgrade or not. Get off whatever terminally online shithole you dwell on for the majority of your time and see how people will use whatever PC they've always used until it breaks. There's also no benefit in upgrading to Windows 11, all of the performance you'd gain from an upgrade will be wasted by the built-in spyware.

>>106857712
>They had 3 years to switch
no usecase. Don't bother us with pointless switches nor jeetgrades (it's like a downgrade but more jeeted).

>>106859214
the coof sent about 3 years into the black hole.

This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.

https://atlasos.net/

>>106859151
>It fundamentally is.
No, you're just radioactively retarded.

>>106859675
>Proposing to throw away perfectly functional hardware because microshaft says so
First, I wouldn't classify a 10+ year old mobo, CPU, and RAM stick as "perfectly functional" (it's probably a couple POSTs away from the scrapyard anyway)
Second, nobody is forcing you to upgrade to the dumpster fire that's W11 (ESU, 21H2 IoT LTSC and Linux Mint are right there if you REALLY need your dinosaur PC after W10's EoL)
You're fighting a war that only exists in your head, since anybody with a modicum of brain cells understands that they're not entitled to lifelong support/updates from a software vendor, just because they refuse to scrap a piece of hardware they bought a decade ago.

Why are brown subhumans so proud of being cattle?

SIRRRR, do nott honk car! we must wait for cow!

Microsoft are fucked because they know nobody wants Windows 11 and everyone is waiting for Windows 12. But they worked really hard to make Windows 11, so they're going to force everyone to use it before Windows 12 becomes available. Windows 12 should have been announced a couple of years ago, but we're not getting it until people adopt Windows 11, which just isn't going to happen. What if Windows 12 has unreasonable hardware requirements as well?

>10 years since a huge chunk of the internet vowed they wouldn't let W7 go, saying how shit W10 is
>there is now a similar mass of people saying they won't let W10 go because it's good and 11 is the bad one
>the same cope mechanisms like 'debloating' scripts (that will brick your install 3 months down the line) and other forms of reluctant acceptance they will be using it eventually

>>106857413 (OP)
Windows 11 sucks, though.

>using windows
Gave her the ick

>>106857413 (OP)
Really, Vista shit required 20 times more than XP

Win 11 only twice than win 10

>>106861479
>Win 11 only twice than win 10
Windows 10 doesn't require any TPM.

>>106857413 (OP)
When xp was discontinued, we had vista, 7 an 8.
Now we have just 11 which is still in late beta.

>>106857454
You held down Shift for a typo?

>>106857413 (OP)
kys retard