Thread 106862633

why isn't every device driven by thunderbolt 5 if it's so versatile?

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versatility is a euphemism for over-engineered and too expensive in most cases. there are entire laptops that only cost about 4x what a thunderbolt cable costs you know.

>>106862643
but if you need to use a separate hdmi or displayport cable to run your monitor, or an AC adaptor for recharging, aren't you already nullifying the cost benefits?

>>106862633 (OP)
>why isn't every device driven by thunderbolt 5 if it's so versatile?
Why did thunderbolt 5 steal usb's connector if it is so versatile?

>>106862633 (OP)
Thunderbolt is an Intel things, so support on non-Intel devices is spotty, and Intel is slow to certify third parties (that or nobody is bothering to make their own controllers for it)

Thunderbolt only exists to be better than and incompatible with the current USB standard to keep you in/push you towards mac product ecosystem

>>106862653
That's only true if you're implementing individual ports with equivalent capability to TB; however, most manufacturers simply cheap out on their USB and display connectors. For instance, one HDMI 2.0, two 5 GB/s USBs, and a barrel connector would easily cost under $7 altogether -provided you have sufficient volume. However, a single TB 5 port could cost upwards of $20.

>>106862633 (OP)
Licensing fees, dumb zoomer.

>>106862677
apple has better thunderbolt support than intel, like every tb port has a separate controller inside the cpu (4 controllers). intel only offers one controller inside the cpu and sometimes manufacturers can add another one on the motherboard

>>106862681
>incompatible with the current USB
it's literally USB4 with some extra features like egpu

It's annoying to have a million different cables that use USB C when the labeling is such a clusterfuck. I needed a DP Alt + Power cable to connect laptops to a monitor and it was confusing sorting through search results to find the cheapest compliant cable. I still don't know the difference between what I bought (listed as USBC Thunderbolt 3/4, labeled as 80 Gbps 240W) and the ones with the lightning bolt arrow.

>>106862633 (OP)
the only.reasson this piece if shit exists is so that you are forced to buy apple cables

>buy dock
>says TB5
>max refresh rate 60hz

they're all trash unless you buy a monitor with direct TB cable which is then limiting yourself

>>106862653
Thunderbolt cables are expensive and short (3ft/1m), as longer cables are unreliable.

>>106862955
it's because your dock has to share bandwidth across all ports

>>106862653
You get a usb 3 cable that already does all of this

>>106862633 (OP)
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO RUN eGPUS @ FULL FUCKING SPEED
IS THIS TOO FUCKONH MUCH TO ASK ?

>>106863042
>dock has 2 video outputs
>even without other usb in use
>2 screens at 60hz even 1080p

they're trash not to mention they all take like 25W of power to run lmao

>>106863108
>plug a monitor and run it @ 4k 240hz
>plug an nvme enclosure
>get USB 2.0 transfer speeds

>>106863026
Isn't a foot always growing ?
What retard nation would use this as a unit of measurement ?

>>106862857
wtf its real
fuck microsoft I'm buying an m4 macbook next

>>106862633 (OP)
Nothing outside of USB A should have ever been made.

>>106863199
>implying i said 4k
>TB 5 is 120gbps
>hdmi 2.0 can do 144hz 1440p with <20gps
>nooo that 10gbps nvme enclosure will max it out!!!!