Thread 106867269

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Previous thread: >>106838706

how to block the nvidia firmware from installing? already tried deleting it months ago and it just keeps popping up. this split they did in arch was stupid

>>106867306
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fwupd

>>106867249
It is actually. I used Mechwarrior 5 as a test. It's UE4 game and it works flawlessly even with base Wine without any proton or tweaking.
However, gamescope with wine creates stutters and input lag - it clearly messes up the compositor or buffering. Bottle with Proton gamescope just fucks up and creates a surface with broken textures. I'm on wayland.

I wanted to use X11 originally, but because I could not get my mouse scrolling wheel to function in normal fashion (outside scrolling one line) I decided to use Wayland instead.
This is the true 2025 linux experience.

Is it possible to run Android apps on Linux? There's a great Music player for Android and I can't find anything like that for Linux, so I was thinking if it's possible to run directly?

I'm using Linux Mint

>>106867323
ideapad is not supported

>>106867360
What is the name of the software?

>>106867360
Waydroid, but it has no hardware acceleration on nVidia. So the UI will lag.

>>106867332
You can try to set the vrr in your compositor by disabling vsync (eg. enabling 'tearing') from the compositor. Hyprland and labwc has a setting for this. However labwc uses baked in wlroot afaik and on nvidia this seems to be bugged and results in screen flickering because it does not handle screen properly with games.

>>106867323
>microsoft
>microsoft
why should anyone want microsoft to update unknown shit you retard?

i delete the fucking nvidia driver and it just doesnt give a fuck and installs it again

>>106867554
The only package that could pull the nvidia firmware is the linux-firmware meta package

had to disable adaptive sync on linux because of the screen flickering it causes

>>106867306
pacman -Rdd linux-firmware-nvidia


Then in pacman.conf:
IgnorePkg = linux-firmware-nvidia


This will prevent the linux-firmware from ever updating though.
pacman -S linux-firmware
warning: linux-firmware-20251011-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
warning: ignoring package linux-firmware-nvidia-20251011-1
warning: cannot resolve "linux-firmware-nvidia", a dependency of "linux-firmware"
:: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
linux-firmware


TLDR; Yes, they are retarded, every linux-firmware user needs NVIDIA now.

A better way might be to set this in pacman.conf:
NoExtract = usr/lib/firmware/nvidia/*


This will keep pacman happy and not extract the files into your firmware but you still have to download a useless package you're never going to install.

>>106867612
I think you can also simply uninstall linux-firmware and then only install the linux-firmware-* packages you actually need, but this is a solution for when you want everything apart from NVIDIA.

>>106867585
i deleted it and installed it again as in arch linux guide but it keeps installing the nvidia driver despite no nvidia hardware. do i have to remove the linux-firmware package and then install all other drivers by hand so the damn nvidia driver stops showing up? jesus have we gone backwards?

>>106867612
So uninstall linux-firmware and manually install only the linux-firmware-* packages you need.
linux-firmware itself is empty. It's just a collection of dependencies

>>106867635
Pretty much, yes.

For me it's the Kubuntu

>>106867269 (OP)
Good evening Please help me.
I just installed Debian with XFCE on my HP Laptop but I am unable to make my touchpad smoothly scroll. It behaves like a Mouse (so it is very stuttery).
The scroll was very fast so I fixed it by using xinput commands, However they get removed everytime I disconnect from my session.
Is there something I am forgetting here?

>>106867269 (OP)
Gtk Filepicker meme already got fixed last year and kde filepicker has worked for years before that

>>106867360
Waydroid but its wayland only though you can run it through a nested wayland session ontop if you know what you're doing

>>106867884
>implying the iJeet OP cares

oh i think i figured it out hopefully
because i already have all the firmwares available all i need to do is remove linux-firmware and the linux-firmware-nvidia that i dont want as i dont have any nvidia hardware and pacman -Syu will still upgrade all the other firmware already installed in the machine without pulling nvidia because the linux-firmware meta package is no longer present

I'm trying to create an smb share for a usb attached HDD in my system.
I used this guide https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/samba/ and I did exactly what it says to test if it works and it worked for creating an smb share in /home/user/share. Then I followed the same guide to create an smb share for the attached usb HDD. I added another [share] with the same attributes and I only changed the "path = " in the smb.conf file but it didn't work. Questions:
>Did I fucked up something with applying these commands in my external HDD location:
>command1
"sudo semanage fcontext --add --type "samba_share_t" "/HDDLocation(/.*)?""
>command2
sudo restorecon -R ~/share
How I can make this work? I'm frustrated. I've read a lot of guides but almost none explain what I should write in the smb.conf to make it work. I don't need any authentication. I just want to be able to access my files in my LAN. pfff plz help

>>106867905
At least iJeet OP is too busy shitting up /spg/ to shit up /fglt/ after creating the thread. /spg/ is literally a dead general.

how would You fix this ?
>>106867830

So the kernel compiles with CLANG now? Is there any work being done to sanitize the source code to be fully compiler agnostic and follow any defined open standard like C99?
Tccboot really inspires me, I'd love an OS that can be built by such a lightweight compiler. Busybox already replaced GNU core utils for those who want a less bloated replacement, the only monolith still standing is gcc. Apparently not even the BSDs are compiler agnostic enough to be built by something else.

>>106868086
might just use GNOME because They say it natively supports this Smooth Scrolling option...

total arch troon 42%

is it a good time to try hyprland yet?

>>106868334
No, because the kernel uses compiler plugins for optimisation and security hardening. The only reason Clang can be used is because they decided to adopt the Gcc specific features that were needed.

ok for any gaymer lurkers here thinking to switch from windows to a casual distro. gaming in linux looks perfectly fine to me for both old and nu games. some anons told me to use either bottles or lutris to run my windows games but that didn't work for me.
the easiest way to fix this was to add any .exe to steam as a non-steam game and just let proton do everything. I'm playing a wow pserver right now and everything works fine with no issues at all

>>106868811
That's a shame. Is there even a single OS in existence that adheres to a specific C standard?

>>106869054
Doubt it. Eventually you're going to want to use a compiler plugin for something or other because the C standard isn't good enough.

>>106869072
>>106869054
If you're looking for a portable (in terms of source code) OS then I imagine you'd want to look for something written in assembly but even then I think there are still GNU extensions for some things.

>>106868912
>casual distro
drop this speech. it doesnt mean anything anymore as all distros are retard proof nowadays specially those targeted at gamers like cachyos. the hardest distros are debian and arch because they dont hold your hand but they are still way easier now than they were 10 years ago.

OK anons. I'm about ready. I got a brand new 4TB drive (because I'm a hoarder), gonna format it in ext4. I also got a USB flash drive. I will copy Fedora KDE onto it. Then I'll press del when I boot up the computer, change the boot order and select the new drive for fresh Linux install. I'm slightly excited. I'm totally tech illiterate but I have faith that it will pretty much work out of the box, that I'll be able to run ComfyUI, and that I'll be able to fire up Silksong right away by mounting my old Windows drive and using NTFS-3G or whatever. Maybe I'll have to use Wine/Proton but it's gonna be shockingly easy, right?

>>106869162
You'll want to reinstall all your games on ext4 or XFS, as while NTFS support has come a *long* way in the past 20 years, it's still mostly read only unless you want to risk data corruption.

>>106869072
>>106869088
If raw assembly is required it can be easily translated into object files and linked as required. Seems more like the programmers took shortcuts to get shit done quickly by using non-standard features.

>"friendly" general
>full of slurs
Why is the GNU/Linux userbase so evil and violent?
I'm going to try Guix soon

>>106869294
do you want some specific help? or do you think that retards being mean deserve to have their retarded hands held while they bitch and moan about a problem they created and what the thread to solve?

>>106869317
>do you want some specific help?
No, came here to say hi

>>106869294
nigga is this your first day on /g/?

In the middle of jumping ship from windows to linux, what packages should I get for what will be a daily driver? I'm installing Arch, btw.

>>106869162
GOG Silksong might work. I haven't tried it. In general don't count on programs installed under Windows working under Linux unless their runtime dependencies are very simple or you have time to spend tinkering.

>>106869257
You're not going to lose any data with ntfs-3g unless there are other problems causing the filesystem to dirty itself and you keep running ntfsfix like a moron instead of chkdsk from Windows. The kernel ntfs3 driver may still have issues.

>>106869696
whats your usecase? do you code, do you game, do you just browse web?

>btrfs corrupts data again
i'm so fucking tired of this shit, first ext4 bricks my shit after a power cut, now this randomly im going back to xfs

>>106869872
Thanks for reminding me to update my backup.

>>106869649
Second

>>106869872
>ext4 bricks my shit after a power cut
how prevalent is this?
i'm a thirdie its not uncommon to get power outages when it rains

>>106869939
As a journaled filesystem that's actually incredibly rare. Running a fsck will fix it again unless you get really unlucky and some core system file ends up corrupted.

BTRFS can at least attempt to prevent that with DUP profiles even on a single disk if you're willing to sacrifice the space for multiple copies of data (metadata is already duped).

>>106869987
i read somewhere that ext4 is the fasted file format for linux, is true?

>>106869866
I browse web (mostly 4chan), I write stuff (not coding, just fiction and shit), I might get back into vidya. A paint program would be good to have as well.

>>106870003
Since you've already decided to use Arch, just use the archinstall script, and when selecting desktop enviroment, pick KDE. it wil feel familiar to you, have 90% of what you need, and have a software 'store' for what else you might want

>>106869872
this is what hardware problems looks like

>>106869939
Downright impossible. Anon has a faulty disk or memory.

>>106869696
get cachyos its arch but for normal humans beans

>>106870044
never happens on xfs, tested my drives and absolutely zero problems with them, btrfs and ext4 are just dogshit filesystems that aren't reliable for powercuts at all

how often do you have power outages?
maybe invest in a ups or move to a country with plumbing

>>106870030
Sounds good
>>106870064
I have a second ThinkPad I was gonna try out Mint on but I might do cachyos instead

>>106870089
XFS IO patterns coincidentally jive with your defective hardware for the moment. Billions of people are running ext4 and they aren't experiencing device brickage on power cuts.

>>106869996
These benchmarks are a bit dated, but still mostly accurate:
https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-58-filesystems

what's in your profile? give me some quality of life ideas

export PS1="\e[0;30[[\u@\h $pwd] ~ \e[m "

alias cat='bat'
alias grep='grep --color -n'
alias ping='ping -c 3'

function godoc() {
go doc ${1} ${2} | less

}

>>106870445
XFS having reflink makes it the default winner for desktop because ext4 is never realistically gonna work up a big enough advantage to overcome skipping full file copies.

>>106870668
ext4 has no CoW, so it always skips copies. :^)

>>106870089
You just got lucky. It can happen on any filesystem, yes, even XFS, if the power cuts mid-write before all buffers and caches have been flushed and written to disk properly (this happens explicitly on fsync/sync if the application is paranoid about ensuring all data is written).

If you live in a third-world shit hole where power outages occur often then you should really follow the advice of >>106870105

>>106870787
Also I recommend adding the sync flag to your mount options in /etc/fstab.

I used to get corruption a lot on my OpenWRT system until I added that. The sync flag basically stops the buffering and caching and says that every write should trigger a sync. This gives you worse performance but is more reliable.

I still do have to fsck the drive now and again but that's because of the Chink SSD it's running off of.

>>106870627
Pretty simple really
zstyle ':completion:*' completer _expand _complete _ignored _correct _approximate
zstyle ':completion:*' format 'Completing %d'
zstyle ':completion:*' list-colors ${(s.:.)LS_COLORS}
zstyle ':completion:*' list-prompt %SAt %p: Hit TAB for more, or the character to insert%s
zstyle ':completion:*' matcher-list '' 'm:{[:lower:]}={[:upper:]}'
zstyle ':completion:*' max-errors 2
zstyle :compinstall filename '/home/XXX/.zshrc'

export ZCOMPDUMP="$HOME/.cache/zsh/.zcompdump"
mkdir -p "${ZCOMPDUMP:h}"

autoload -Uz compinit
compinit -d "$ZCOMPDUMP"

HISTFILE=~/.histfile
HISTSIZE=1000
SAVEHIST=1000

setopt autocd extendedglob nomatch notify
unsetopt beep

bindkey -e
bindkey "^[[3~" delete-char
autoload -U colors && colors

PROMPT='[%n@%m %F{green}%1~%f]%# '
if [[ -f ~/.aliases ]]; then
source ~/.aliases
fi

precmd() {
print -Pn "\e]1;%~\a" # Tab title (directory)
print -Pn "\e]0;%n@%m: %~\a" # Window title
}
source /usr/share/zsh-syntax-highlighting/zsh-syntax-highlighting.zsh
My aliases are pretty basic too
alias cls='clear'
alias df='df -hx tmpfs'
alias free='free -h'
alias portcheck='sudo netstat -tulpn | grep LISTEN'
alias ll='ls -halF'
alias update='sudo dnf update'
alias rere='sudo dnf needs-restarting -r'
alias lt='ls --human-readable --size -1 -S --classify'
alias sano='sudo nano'

>>106867612
the idea is to not use "linux-firmware" if you don't want to have every firmware installed, and just install the firmware packages you need

>>106868781
Always is

>"librewolf isn't quite as good as excel but 95% of people won't notice"
>librewolf:

>>106871760
>librewolf
librecalc* fugg
librewolf is fine

LMDE got released.
Time to upgrood

In docker compose using a socks proxy server, how do you change what port goes out to the internet? I have a program that is hard coded to use port 1 when on a socks proxy and cannot be changed which is causing me issues, so how would I make it so the container can presto changeo port 1 locally into port xyz which is sent extenrally? I've tried 1:1080 and 1080:1 and also 1:xyz and xyz:1 (with both /tcp and /udp) and it just results in either the program not being able to talk to the socks server or the Internet depending on what I tried.

>>106871809
What do you need the SOCKS proxy for? I would use a proper VPN instead. There are ways to expose a SOCKS proxy as a TUN/TAP interface if necessary.

>>106867306
Delete linux-firmware and install required firmware packages manually.

>>106867625
>simply uninstall linux-firmware and then only install the linux-firmware-* packages you actually need
that's the solution, but knowing which packages you actually need isn't trivial.

>>106872023
You don't need 99% of them, it's pretty trivial.

>>106867269 (OP)
indian wrote this

>>106867884
Filepicker meme because thumbnails are useless this is why hydrus exists. use tags

>>106868912
Weird, neither me nor my friends had issues running WoW (3.3.5a) inside Bottles.

>>106869098
>all distros are retard proof nowadays
They are not. And there's different levels of "retard proof".

>>106869294
Nigger you're on 4chan. This has never been a place where speech is policed outside of breaking the actual rules of the website.

>>106872026
>linux-firmware-amdgpu
I'm sure I need that
>linux-firmware-atheros
I dunno
>linux-firmware-broadcom
I dunno
>linux-firmware-cirrus
I dunno
>linux-firmware-intel
I dunno
>linux-firmware-mediatek
I dunno
>linux-firmware-nvidia
I'm sure I don't need that
>linux-firmware-other
I really dunno
>linux-firmware-radeon
Probably don't need that
>linux-firmware-realtek
probably need that

command that tells me what I need - apparently non-existent.

>>106872023
>knowing which packages you actually need isn't trivial.
Gentoo includes a small patch to their kernel that prints out every firmware module that's loaded to dmesg:
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/linux-patches.git/tree/3000_Support-printing-firmware-info.patch?h=6.17

I don't know why Arch couldn't do something similar. That reduces the problem to:
>Install every single firmware package
>Look at what firmware is actually loaded at boot
>Remove anything that's redundant

>>106872059
sudo dmesg | grep -i firmware
this will list firmware that gets loaded, or is attempted to be loaded.

>>106872071
>>106872103
oh that's a feature specific to gentoo kernels... never mind then, that's what i use and i didn't realise they added that to the gentoo kernels

>>106872108
To be honest I don't know why Linux can't do that natively. Why isn't their kernel boot parameter to control this?

>>106872059
Here's how you do it: You don't install any of them and whatever doesn't work when you reboot, you install the firmware package for them. I guran-fucking-tee none of your ethernet or WiFi cards need any of the firmware packages so it doesn't matter.

>>106872124
idk, i didn't even know it didn't until just now.
with gentoo it makes sense why they'd want it, since that's all about granular customisation. i use saved-config with linux-firmware to have it include literally only the individual firmware files my system needs (even more fine-grained than arch's new split packages)
sys-kernel/linux-firmware: 65 files (64 unique), 20 non-files, 4.5M

>>106872137
some network cards do. on mine (>>106872148) there's firmware files for my amd gpu (i include only those for my specific gpu), along with mediatek mt7922 wifi firmwares (i don't use wifi on my desktop, but i include it for completeness and if i ever do want to use it) and realtek rtl8125/8168 ethernet firmwares

>>106872071
i guess you'd just have to install none and check if any hardware doesn't work. probably a good idea to download the package files ahead of time in case you end up with no network access

>>106872203
Yeah, or patch the kernel yourself to print what firmware files it's loading.

The individual kernel modules (e.g AMDGPU, Intel wireless, etc) do still print some stuff though so you're not necessarily flying completely blind.

>>106872210
yea, if you're building your kernel then you can just include that patch, though if you aren't it won't be worth doing so just for this

>>106870627
I just use profile for setting up the environment variables, mostly to clean up the dotfiles in home. Everything else and stuff that's more interactive goes into bashrc for me.

# XDG Base Directory: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XDG_Base_Directory
export XDG_CONFIG_HOME="$HOME/.config"
export XDG_CACHE_HOME="$HOME/.cache"
export XDG_DATA_HOME="$HOME/.local/share"
export XDG_STATE_HOME="$HOME/.local/state"

# XDG overrides
export KDEHOME="$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/kde"
export GTK2_RC_FILES="$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
export SCREENRC="$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/screen/screenrc"
export HISTFILE="$XDG_STATE_HOME/bash/history"
export WGETRC="$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/wgetrc"
export MBOX="$XDG_DATA_HOME/mbox"

# Enable the KDE file picker in GTK apps
export GTK_USE_PORTAL=1
export GDK_DEBUG="portals"

# Enable Mangohud in all vulkan games
export MANGOHUD=1
export MANGOHUD_CONFIG="no_display,engine_version,cpu_temp,gpu_temp,gpu_power,gpu_voltage,vram,wine"

# No WINE fixme spam in logs/terminal
export WINEDEBUG="fixme-all"

assume you have to edit a page for print made in ms word and exported to pdf. you could use inkscape but is anal. what do u do? vector > raster

>download tarkov update with uget, let is stay overnight
>somehow my download directory has 3 identical 35GB copies of the same file
>none of them are functional
And this is why this tranny operating system is fucking useless outside servers.
I can't say what the fuck happened and don't want to know really.

>>106872501
*let it stay

>>106872501
>tarkov
Are you talking about the $250 video game with an anti-cheat that blocks Linux players?

>>106870064
Said nobody ever

>>106870965
What do each of the zstyle lines do?

>>106871760
Looks like some issue with wayland or kde

>>106872537
Of course a clown like you doesn't know it can be played for free. It's quite ironic people like you frequent the linux thread.
I bet you have a netflix subscription and spotify too.

>>106870668
XFS is inappropriate for desktop use since it can't be shrunk.

>>106872563
fucked if I remember I set it up nearly 2 years ago, I didn't change too much from zsh auto-completion so it's based on that

>>106872610
why would you need to shrink your partition size in normal everyday use?

>>106872579
>play it for free
I don't play garbage
>netflix
I don't watch garbage

>>106872619
Nobody claimed it's needed every day. But when you need to resize your filesystems and it turns out that it's impossible because of XFS *then* it's a big problem.
Not everyone has your perfect future prediction ability to know how much space they'll need for every filesystem in the future.
Stop it with the goalpost moving and accept the L.

>>106869996
It is the fastest overall, and has a ton of features. Other filesystems can be more appropriate in specific scenarios, but ext4 is never a bad choice.

>>106872690
Ext4 has been the default and recommended filesystem for like over a decade and is reliably stable it just misses features like reflink and snapshotting though it does have native fs encryption which probably nobody uses
Btrfs is overrated. t. btrfs user

Why does Linux still suck so bad in 2025?

Let me start with desktop environments. KDE Plasma what a joke, full of constant bugs and you have to have a degree in computer science to find anything in the settings. Gnome not any better, you need to use extensions to add basic functionality that Windows has out of the box, Cinnamon and LXQT look likey the came from before 2010. Now come the worst ones, LXDE, Xfce and Mate they look like they are from the time when Richard Stallman had just graduated from college. Software stores are crap, most of the time they break and when you ask on a forum like linux.org of how to fix your system they tell you to open a terminal and run some random command. Like what age are we living in the 90's, terminal's shouldn't be needed anymore there should be good working GUI's for everything!

Tiling window managers? Are you joking?! Having to manually configure everything and playing around with windows like we are solving a Rubik's Cube. Are we here to work or to solve puzzles while using our computer? They generally look like trash and you need to be an expert in css and some programming language to configure them or else you will be called a noob when using one that you configure in a regular text file.

Packaging and package managers on Linux are a disaster. rpm, apt, pacman, zypper, portage, nix. Why the need for so many, all distributions should just pick one that way there is more standardization between distributions Also security on Linux what a joke, no desktop application containerization package managers the packages are installed by root, what happens if the source gets compromized and you run an infected package as root on your system. Apparmor pretty much useless on other distributions because the profiles only get written for Ubuntu. Don't get me started on selinux, you call that security having the NSA spy on your system since we all know there is a backdoor in selinux.

My gentoo system's PYTHON_TARGETS is 3.13 - I installed one package as --oneshot and after hitting Y I realized it is now installing python 3.14 before it can build that damn package. Why? What the fuck.

>>106872690
If you're shrinking a filesystem you've already tremendously fucked up in the first place and you should have planned ahead better.

What do you use for backups? I use vorta

>>106867269 (OP)
need help with urxvt transparency on NixOS
I want to use fake transparency but it does not work shading 0 (as expected) gives full transparency, but any value above 0 displays only shades of gray.
same config file worked on Void Linux, but not here

>>106873059
i'll shrink my btrfs volumes while they're mounted and there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>106873288
The data loss when it corrupts all 3 superblocks is what will stop you (ask me how I know)

>>106872860
Well, I'm not upgrading my whole system forcefully. I think I emerged and added some masked package to @world at one point, knowing it was unstable but didn't care at that time. From now on I think I'll install unstable packages with --oneshot so they do not get added to @world. Adding them to @world is just asking for problems, I guess.

I'm trying to install fedora on my ssd but it doesn't show up in the installation or when I type lsblk in the live usb. The Debian live USB recognize it fine. What's the problem?

>roughly two week old install of kubuntu
>generate ssh key pair
>give public key to git repo
>fingerprint verification succeeds
>git pulls fail and fall back to credential authentication
>same exact steps work on windows and on macos

What the actual fuck is going on? I didn't think it was possible for SSH to break. It was working for about a week. I've tried completely removing SSH from my system and reinstalling it but it just always falls through to credential auth, also doesn't work for stuff other than git

>>106872738
>native fs encryption which probably nobody uses
More people do than don't. Like, many times more. ext4 with encryption is the default since Android 10.
I personally use fscrypt for the directory with backups (on the NAS), so they are encrypted even though the filesystem and block device are not. Every few months I unlock that directory and take fresh backups from my devices.

>>106872059
>linux-firmware-amdgpu
>I'm sure I need that
>linux-firmware-atheros
>I dunno
>linux-firmware-broadcom
>I dunno
>linux-firmware-cirrus
>I dunno
>linux-firmware-intel
>I dunno
>linux-firmware-mediatek
>I dunno
>linux-firmware-nvidia
>I'm sure I don't need that
>linux-firmware-other
>I really dunno
>linux-firmware-radeon
>Probably don't need that
>linux-firmware-realtek
>probably need that
just get them all and remove the nvidia one if you dont have nvidia graphics. all of these are so tiny it doesnt matter, only the nvidia one is big.

>>106872750
It's clear you're trolling, yet
>you have to have a degree in computer science to find anything in the settings
Alt+Space -> keyboard[/keyboard] will give you all the keyboard-related settings and programs. It is impossible to make it any more intuitive than this, short of implementing some neural implants.
>inb4 how am I supposed to know
When you first log in, there's a tutorial showing you how to use KDE Plasma. If you thought you're too smart and skipped it, then I have bad news for you.

>>106873059
You're a retard. Stop posting.

I have a 4 TB HDD for storage.
500 GB of it is formatted as ext4 for my Linux OS (installed on its own SSD) to use for linux games storage and timeshift. The rest of the HDD is storage for my Windows OS (also installed on its own SSD) as well as shared file storage for linux but formatted as NTFS.

Can I wipe the NTFS partition on the HDD to increase the size of the ext4 partition? Or do I need to reformat the entire HDD in order to get a larger ext4 size? I know NTFS works for linux and I can write to the NTFS side no problem, but with how annoying Windows is getting lately, I think I'm only gonna use it for emergency Photoshop work and specific games from now on. I'm mostly on linux nowadays, so faster write/read speeds in ext4 would be nice.

>>106871867
I know there are ways to do this much easier but just trust that I'm doing it this way for a reason, I just need to know if what I'm asking is possible and how to do it.

>>106867884
It's still quite broken. It wont generate thumbnails when you open the file picker, you instead have to first open gnome files. You have to do this everytime you have new files.

>>106872750
>you have to have a degree in computer science to find anything in the settings
I didn't know only computer scientists can type something into a search bar. Perhaps you should stop being a boomer, nobody navigates menus anymore and everyone has switched to using search bars.

>>106873735
Wrong

>>106873757
iirc it only applies to videos

>>106873760
I literally just tested it with a webm and it works

>>106873719
Never mind, looks like it's possible to do just that. Didn't think it would be that simple.

>>106872690
>But when you need to resize your filesystems and it turns out that it's impossible because of XFS *then* it's a big problem
Not really because there's no reason to run either outside high performance flash. Home users are looking at 4TB absolute max b&r. Probably much less because of multiple partition, multiple tenancy.

ext4 is is also a shitty filesystem to resize because its metadata size never changes, so dramatic changes in either directions can yield unexpectedly bad results.

>>106873320
I have the same filesystem on my RAID since 2019 and it's been grown / shrunk multiple times.

>>106873794
yea just unmount it and open up gparted to delet the ntfs partitions and resize the ext4 one

>>106873794
>>106873931
also if you want ntfs space later you can shrink the ext4 partition ;)

The refurbished 2023 Anus A16 I ordered just arrived. Wanted an all-AMD laptop to dual boot and dip my toes on gaming under Linux (7435HS and RX7700S), and I'm glad that this laptop doesn't have the gayrgb bullshit all the other gaymen laptops have, because otherwise I'd need to install all the custom asusctl packages to disable that, which only have support for arch-based distros. All I want to control are cpu boost and battery thresholds, and it turns out TLP already supports these laptops just fine for that, so I can keep using the same Mint install I'm used to.

>>106869939
I've been through plenty of power outages due to hurricanes and bad storms and have never lost data on an ext4 drive.

How do y'all go with installing software that you build from source? Suppose it's the usual CMake or Autotools project.

Do you use the default /usr/local prefix and then sudo make install?
Do you install it to some custom local prefix and then add it to path?
Do you leave the executable in the build directory and then symlink it to some directory in your PATH like ~/.local/bin?
Perhaps there are some autistic Gentoo/Arch users who write a recipe for the package manager for each program they install?

>>106873813
>dramatic changes in either directions can yield unexpectedly bad results
We're talking desktop use, not hypothetical shrinking from 1TB to 1GB. And "corner case yielding suboptimal results in extreme conditions" is nowhere near "impossible to shrink" in terms of user impact.

>>106873931
>>106873944
Thanks anon

>>106874300
reminds me of vrms only 100% more gay

>>106874300
lunduke belongs in the oven with the trannys.

>>106874300
>lunduke: a deranged schizo who loves spreading fud
>vaxry: unironically named after "the vax" and promoting untested vaccines
i'm not listening to the opinions of either of these two

>>106874528
You convinced me, I'm an antifa communist now.

>>106874298
If you could shrink it online like btrfs you might have a point, but either way you're taking it offline. The only difference is whether it's for a few minutes or an hour. This is something you do seldom if ever, so it makes no practical difference.

Do anons use UUID or PART_UUID for fstab? I think UUID is better.

>>106874396
lmao

>>106874642
>everything I store on a computer MUST be available 99.99999% of the time or else I lose millions
This is how you sound.
You don't have experience, or your experience is with very few setups and requirements.
Red Hat sales brochures are no substitute for working in the real world, or for managing a computer.

>>106874674
I use the device name

>>106874674
I don't use tinkertranny distros so I don't even know what's being used

I am trying to install mint cinnamon in a dell G3 3579 with a fucked up windows installation. The linux installation went normal, but every time I try to turn it on the pc goes into automatic repair. What should I do?

>>106873719
>>106873931
For some reason, it won't let me resize the existing ext4 partition. All partitions on the HDD are currently unmounted, and I did 'Check' and 'Repair' on all of them in the Gnome Disks app (Had to download GParted since it's not included with Mint). It did the same thing for me on the Disks app which I tried first, I can't resize the ext4 partition on there either.

However, I can resize the NTFS partition back to full size (3.5 TB) on both GParted and Gnome Disks, no problem, so the free space doesn't appear to be damaged. The ext4 partition isn't damaged either but it's maxed out in size. I can shrink it, but I can't use any of the unallocated space I've freed up to extend the ext4 partition. Formatting that unallocated space doesn't give an option to add it to the ext4 partition either, I can only choose Create As: Primary Partition (Logical Partition and Extended Partition are greyed out and can't be selected).

Dunno what went wrong. Restarting the PC didn't change anything either. Might need to suck it up and just reformat the entire HDD to make the partitions I want. That will take a while but at least I know it will work.

>>106874824
btw the Labels are just labels, I don't have linux or windows installed on this drive, they're just the preferred storage partitions for those OSes which are installed on their own drives.

>>106874824
you can't extend the ext4 partition there because there's no unallocated space after it. this is a physical layout. you'd have to move the ntfs partition to the right before you can expand the ext4 partition (this may take quite some time considering the size and the fact it's a hdd).

btrfs can be extended using multiple partitions, but ext4 can't

>>106874692
We're talking about impact on home users grandpa, try to keep up.

>>106874881
Ohhh...okay, thanks. I'll just restore the NTFS partition to the original size then until I find time to do a full reformat/resize.

>>106874824
This is why you always use LVM with low level filesystems and one of many reasons why you use BTRFS on HDD.

>>106874922
you can move it in gparted, but this involved reading and writing all the data in said partition to literally physically shift everything over on the disc. assuming something like 60MiB/s, moving 2.73TiB would take about 13 hours. you could reduce this by shrinking the ntfs partition beforehand since it's not full, to make it about 10 hours (moving a partition in gparted doesn't take used space in the filesystem into account, it moves the entire partition)

>>106874932
I see, thanks. Is that a recent technology or something? I've only used linux for like 2 years and never heard of LVM. And the beginner tutorials I watched recommended ext4 when installing/formatting vs using NTFS. I think I've heard of BTRFS mentioned but it was for special use cases at the time. Looking it up, it seems like it might replace ext4 in the future. That's neat.

>>106874984
Yeah, think I'll just reformat the drive the old fashioned way to get my new partitions when I have time. I'm not in a rush. Thanks.

>>106874995
not him, but no, lvm has been around a long time, over 20 years. it's an abstraction layer between physical discs and "partitions" which decouple volumes from physical storage, allowing for things like resizing volumes into non-contiguous spaces, among many other things

>>106874995
LVM has been in Linux at least 25 years. It's HP-UX heritage.
>tutorials I watched
Found the problem.

>>106875017
That sounds really useful. Hope they bundle that in with Mint and other beginner distros, that sounds like it should be part of the default installed software.

>>106875048
it is, or should be. it's a linux (kernel) feature. even if it doesn't ship with the lvm tools to manage them you can install it with your package manager
note that it's something you format your disc with, like, you put ext4 /on top/ of lvm. instead of formatting a partition with ext4 you format an lv (logical volume) with ext4. and lv being assigned to a vg (volume group) which can consist of one or more physical discs
there's a reason it's nothing something a beginner tutorial would mention, and that's because it's just added complexity if you don't use the functionality it provides. like it'd be completely pointless to use lvm on a disc with a single full-disc volume on it and you aren't using any other feature like lvm snapshots or caching with it

>>106875034
>Found the problem.
Hey now. I learned a lot from ExplainingComputers, Linux for Seniors, and LearnLinuxTV.
Even DistroTube and ChrisTitusTech have some good tutorials and insight.

>>106875087
-- or in other words, beginners should only be exposed to a bare minimum. simple configurations just to get them started. i could swear some distros used lvm as part of their automatic/guided partitioning, but couldn't name one since i haven't used automatic partitioning in a very long time

>>106875112
pretty sure he's just insinuating that video tutorials tend to be simpler than written ones, which i would agree with. i wouldn't say there aren't advanced video tutorials, i'm sure you could find lots about lvm, but it's like, compare a beginner partitioning video to the partitioning guide on the gentoo website and you'll see the difference (yes, it mentions lvm)

>using debian
peaceful, nothing to worry about, everything works
>using arch
must update frequently or things break, need to look at news to see what needs manual intervention
>using fedora
alright but not as comfy as debian, probably better for a professional programmer on newer hardware

>>106875087
>>106875122
Ah, that does make sense.
I'll look into LVM more since I dual-boot and I'll probably experiment with other distros in the future.

>>106867333
I had to switch to X11 because i play heavily modded cyberpunk, on wayland when it crashes it freezes the entire session, on X11 it just crashes by itself as expected.

>>106875153
it's fun. i actually haven't used it since switching to btrfs, but now that it's brought up i kinda want to play with it again, i'm sure it's gotten new features since i last used it

>>106875145
Oh, I was just being silly. It was funny because he was right. I should consult more actual documentation instead of mostly tutorials.

>>106875153
>>106875168
speaking of-- kinda related, but you can actually have multiple distros installed using a single btrfs volume. i have both gentoo and arch installed on this computer, each in different subvolumes
>>106875175
i'm not against videos either, it can be useful to see things in action, too. i was learning linux back when i was on dial up so i didn't really have that choice, but i'm sure i would have watched videos as well if it was an option

>>106875192
Oh, that's cool. It's probably a lot more organized that way too (And safer). If those were actual partitions I guess it would get really messy once you started installing more distros, since you also have to deal with other stuff like swap or any backup partitions. I don't even install Windows and Linux together on the same drive because it's just simpler to keep them on their own drives. Plus I heard Windows can sometimes mess with existing Linux installations, especially after an update.

>>106867954

I think most problems with samba shares are permissions issues. Make sure the top level directory and all subdirectories and files belong to the samba user. Use chmod if needed.

>>106875275
yea nice thing about btrfs subvolumes is that you don't need to specify their size, they just draw the from same pool of space. basically they act like folders but are mountable like partitions. right now i have my gentoo and home subvolumes mounted, but since i haven't mounted the btrfs root itself, there's actually no path i can go to right now to see the arch subvolume. i would have to mount that or the btrfs root to see it. it's as if i have two partitions mounted, only they're just "folders" inside the same btrfs volume
lvm is similar to this, you can have multiple distros installed into logical volumes which can reside on the same physical partition

>>106874761
Never mind, solved it myself. Just turned off windows boot manager on the bios.

>>106875275
>>106875306
here's what my btrfs volume looks like. looks funny right? named as if they're partitions but they appear like folders. each one shows the free space as the free space of the btrfs volume, and they use only the space they need. no wasted space or needing to move/resize anything if they run out. don't need to worry about where any of it is physically stored.

>>106875306
>>106875391
Yeah that's really neat. So convenient, lol. That really needs to be a default feature even if a beginner user doesn't know about it, especially a beginner distro like Mint or Fedora. It just seems safer and more organized than normal partitions.

>>106875513
fedora switched to btrfs as the default a few years ago. not sure what mint uses

>>106875306
you don't want to specify size because btrfs quotas don't work

>>106875619
i've heard that before, but haven't looked into it since i don't have a need for quotas either way

Can I run Ubuntu LTS 24.04 with AMD Radeon RX 9070 or do I have to install 25.10 for newer Kernel and Mesa? I like Ubuntu, but I prefer the LTS version.

>>106875651
The LTS version is for servers and some businesses. No reason to use it on your main PC unless you're allergic to software updates.

I was going to install gentoo (installing first in VM to make sure it works), but I guess the current stage3 desktop openrc is broken because emerging stuff that is required in the install process causes this error. Unless the wiki has been updated again, that is.

>>106875826
Well actually whatever I'll just skip the @world update and be done with it. I've automated this which is why this is a problem, btw, because I can't be bothered to manually install gentoo no way.

>>106875146
I use Kubuntu. It's the middle ground between Debian and Fedora KDE

>>106875826
this isn't an error and you're going to see this a lot as you first set it up. you're installing something which requires something else to have a particular use flag that isn't a default/part of the profile you chose, so you have to add it yourself

>>106875914
I know exactly what it is but how isn't it an error if a raw stage3-openrc-desktop fails to emerge @world with --newuse with the exact proper profile selected?

>>106875651
See https://ubuntu.com/kernel/lifecycle
Should run with MESA 25.0.7. Idk how essential 25.1 is to practical function. With hardware that new I would go with the interrim release and step into the next LTS if you're inclined. That's pretty much the major selling point of Ubuntu.

>>106875960
Because you misunderstand how the stages are built. They enable a lot of these USE flags at build-time, some of them stay enabled via the profile, others get dropped so it's up to you as a user whether or not you want to enable that specific feature.

>>106876057
So you're saying that if I untar a stage3, do not change /etc/portage/make.conf and try to update @world - it is okay and expected to fail without manual corrections to USE/whatever flags?

>>106876070
Yes, depending on circumstances. This is normal, just add the flag to your make.conf or package.use

>>106876084
Okhay well this makes automating this install process a hell to manage because I'm expected to know in advance what USE flags to alter before updating @world

>>106876092
If you want to automate then you should use specific dated snapshots and also use emerge-webrsync instead of emerge --sync. You can test against a specific snapshot instead of an always rolling system then.

>>106876104
I use the latest stage3-openrc-desktop tarball under /releases - But I guess I should choose some dated snapshot then? I didn't know a dated snapshot was any different from "latest".

>>106876104
Oh you meant I test against dated snapshot to be able to mark it as something that works or not. My bad. Well anyways it's just my installer script, which I would prefer to work without user intervention, that is. That's why this is problematic, but I disabled @world update for now and it seems to work fine so maybe I leave the @world update for the user after system is installed.

>>106876121
I mean for the Portage tree. Say the latest stage3 was built on a particular date then you should probably use the corresponding Portage snapshot for that date in case any of the profiles changed, etc.
For example, something like:
emerge-webrsync --revert=2025-10-12


Will pull yesterdays snapshot.

>>106876151
Cool.

all you had to do to stop me from trying omarchy was tell me how many AIs it had direct keyboard shortcuts too the second i had grok open i installed endeavor no desktop then ran the jakoolit scripts no omarchy for me

>>106876171
ok cool but what's omarchy?

>>106876190
some arch distro supposed to be the ultimate tiling setup or something but it was underwhelming and assumed heavy AI usage as default

>>106876151
Should be (not sure why it doesn't accept a date in ISO format):
emerge-webrsync --revert=20251012

>>106875989
>25.1
Ubuntu is still stuck on that version?

>>106876340
I always assume Ubuntu users use some sort of PPA for Mesa (e.g Kisak) because otherwise I don't know how you can use it for any serious desktop use.

>>106876463
>I don't know how you can use it for any serious desktop use.
It's mainly an OS for simple office computers and developers. The only important thing is that the intel integrated graphics work and render a picture on the screen.

Jesus fucking Christ installing Gentoo is boring. I'm considering just using the binhost for my desktop PC.

>>106876548
True, it's fine for its intended purpose. People tend to promote it as an everyman's operating system though, not just for office and dev tasks but for gaming and entertainment, etc.

Valve figured out years ago that Arch is a better base for that.

>>106876580
Nothing wrong with doing that for the initial install. Then you can enable the testing repositories (if you want the latest packages) and do a @world upgrade on your own time.

>>106875989
>>106876340
>>106876548
I'm on 25.2.3. with newest Kubuntu.
Stop spreading lies and malware, Archuddies.

Getting my secondary PC setup for Arch. I've done some installs in VM with archinstall, tried out different desktop environments. Having a hard time picking one. I've tried XFCE, MATE, Plasma, Gnome. The Gnome is quite strange so I think I will not use that one. I don't really want to install more than one DE because I've heard it can screw some things up. The PC is kind of old, 8gb ram, intel i5-6500T CPU (4core). Some of the fonts looked a bit strange in XFCE and MATE too, not sure if that was just the VM or what. Anyone help me commit to one? Thanks.

Oh yea, I remember back in the day seeing Compiz with the window effects. It looked so cool at the time but it seems like no one uses that anymore.

>>106876340
Hardware Enablement is only on 25.07

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osoox163p7Y

>>106876613
KDE and upgrade to 16GB

>>106876612
>25.2.3
That's cute. And I've been on Mesa 25.2.4 for at least a week now.

>>106876705
Thanks for being an unpaid tester.

>>106876613
It's best to just stick with KDE. It's the only serious Linux DE out there, especially if you don't like GNOME. Xfce and MATE are more for niche users who prefer them, or for very low spec computers (as in 2GB RAM).
>The PC is kind of old, 8gb ram, intel i5-6500T CPU (4core)
That's more than enough to run any DE. You'll be fine.

>>106876729
An unpaid tester would be someone running Mesa-git.

Also if nobody tests your ultra specific use-cases then a regression will still slip through to you eventually. Open Source works better when you run the latest software and can immediately file a bug when shit breaks and then have that reverted or fixed within the week (sometimes within the day or a couple of hours even).

>>106876729
>a versioned release
>literally a bug fix release, meaning 25.2.3 has bugs
The only thing I can do is laugh at you. Not only for using buggy software because your shitty distro arbitrarily chose to version freeze the package, but also because you don't understand how software development works or when and where things are tested yet you spew shit. Bragging about not getting updates is fucking weird.

>>106876786
>Open Source works better when you run the latest software and can immediately file a bug when shit breaks and then have that reverted or fixed within the week (sometimes within the day or a couple of hours even).

And suffer a week of bugs, instability and monetary loss?
Wrong. It works best with stable, proven things.
Example: All the rolling release users were at risk from getting hacked by the xz backdoor. People on LTS distros weren't.
But if you're a hobbyist who has time to spend on fixing things that should not need fixing or can live with buggy shit - like the 6.16 kernel breaking networking just a few weeks ago, then you're good with rolling releases, I guess.

Tourist here, going to switch to Linux this weekend and I'm looking for a sanity check from someone more experienced.
>hardware
5700X3D + 7900GRE
>software
I'm eyeing Debian Stable (or Sid) and XFCE, but I'm open to anything as long as it doesn't look too gay (modern)
>use case
Mostly gaming, but also a bit of everything else, it would be sad to still have to keep a Windows install or VM around for rare occasions
>concerns
I need to be able to digitally sign documents using a hardware PKCS token that only supports Windows (or so it says, I hear Python libraries can call Windows .dll's just fine if you know what you're doing, but building my own solution from scratch sounds overkill). If I'm unable to make it work, will this kind of device play nice with a VM?
Also, I heard there's no proper HWiNFO alternative on Linux and overclocking/fancontrol stuff is lacking, particularly on outdated distros, is this a legitimate concern?

>>106876854
you can UV and OC the card with corectrl or lact

>>106876613
KDE, GNOME, or maybe a wlroots diy setup (eg labwc) are your only serious options. You don't want Xorg on Intel if you can avoid it.
>not sure if that was just the VM or what
Bare metal is different from VM guest GPU, yeah.

>>106876827
Once the bugfix has been proven to work, it will be delivered. There is no need to rush, unless it is a critical bug.
25.2.4 is not even 14 days old. Why the hurry?

>>106876851
>It works best with stable, proven things.
so why use Kubuntu 25.10 and brag about being on mesa 25.2.3? >>106876612

>>106876638
>>106876749
Thanks, I'll try KDE and see how the RAM usage goes. Upgrading to 16gb might be doable in some time. The GNOME was just odd but kind of cool. I just wanted to make a text file by right clicking somewhere and there were like no options. I'm sure it can be done quite easily but yea it was a turnoff.

>>106876340
on my old stinkpad I still use 21.2

>>106876884
Kubuntu 25.10 is an interim release. I like to live on the wild side and give up the stability of debian stable and ubuntu lts for newer software, which might introduce more instabilities and bugs compared to them.
Yet I do not feel the need to switch to any rolling release or even any more frequently updated distro like, say, Fedora.
Although I might go to MX Linux 25 once it is released.

>>106876851
>And suffer a week of bugs, instability and monetary loss?
It takes five seconds to revert to the previous build before the regression. If you have money on the line then I sure hope you know how to do that and have your own internal testing.

>>106874300
/g/ should make one for trannyware and call it "detect-fag". I'll make the logo!

>>106876934
Or you could just use enterprise grade distributions instead and not worry about getting bugged until the next version is out.

>buy nvidia gpu
>electron based shit caps at 60hz

>>106876945
But you still get the bug and still get the loss of money.

If your business is important then you should stay close to upstream.

>>106876936
You should make a chud distro. Oh wait, Artix already exists lmao

>>106869872
I use btrfs and it never broke, how the fuck are you breaking it?

>>106875541
Mint uses ext4

>>106876953
There never was the risk of the xz backdoor in stable distros, so no.

>>106876854
>gaming
Don't go for Debian stable then. It's not an OS made for gaming. Even Valve abandoned it as a base for SteamOS. The software updates are just too slow for how fast gaming evolves and Linux gaming improvements come.
If you want to be on Debian, then go for sid. Otherwise Fedora is a better option.
>XFCE
It's a very slowly maintained and developed DE. It doesn't even support wayland yet and probably won't in years. X11 is effectively abandonware as of the start of this decade. It'll work, but it has quirks which will never be addressed unless distros adopt XLibre (which Debian won't because they're lead by antifa who labelled the XLibre dev a right wing nazi).
I suggest going with Plasma and ricing it or applying some theme to make it "less gay and modern" (whatever that means to you)
>will this kind of device play nice with a VM?
You can pass any USB device to a VM.
>overclocking/fancontrol
There's several, check out "Lact". CoreCtrl also exists but it's abandoned (it lists some maintained alternatives in the readme, so it's worth checking out)

I'm trying to set up a mint PC for a relative. He said he'd only upgrade from windows 7 if he can play his old ass games from 1996.
Unfortunately I'm retarded and can't get it to work. This is the furthest I've come. Installation completed successfully but I can't start the game now. I get a textbox
>unable to open data (data.dat)
>yes/no

>>106876982
This post was made by the Bazzitetard. It is full of falsehoods and bad opinions. .

>>106876974
There was never a risk for people running distributions without the Systemd backdoor too, but you have to pick your poison, most enterprise distributions for better or worse are using it.

>>106876997
systemd isn't a backdoor, chuddie. Neither is Intel ME, or pulseaudio.

>>106877008
How do you think the Xz attack worked? I implore you to read up on it before you invoke it. It weaponised Systemd.

>>106876974
I'm not sure about that. Every time a security vulnerability got discovered in the past few years it usually only affected Ubuntu LTS. Whenever I checked my package versions on Fedora the package either wasn't pre-installed or was too new to be affected.

>>106876854
i tried xfce and the mouse support was garbage
like i couldnt turn off acceleration for some reason

anybody has experience starting up riverwm? it almost works but waybar doesn't detect sound devices unless i relaunch it and obs can't grab desktop unless i run xdg-desktop-portal -r
my river/init is roughly this:
#!/bin/sh
dbus-send --session --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.freedestktop.portal.Desktop /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop org.freedesktop.DBus.Peer.Ping
riverctl spawn waybar
riverctl spawn kanshi
riverctl spawn swayidle # swayidle setup
# bunch of keybind stuff skipped
riverctl default-layout rivertile
rivertile -view-padding 6 -outer-padding 6 &
pipewire &
exec dbus-update-activation-environment DISPLAY I3SOCK SWAYSOCK WAYLAND_DISPLAY XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP

and the whole shebang is invoked by just river

>>106876990
Use bottles, it's on flathub

>>106876854
MX Linux has the best Debian + xfce combination. Get the ahs version if you want a newer kernel plus mesa updates.

>>106876982
>XFCE
Just works and is good for low end pcs or in other words... good for everything, I say this as a xfce user
>X11
just works as well
>shilling wayland
Have a read from this site https://stoppromotingwayland.netlify.app/
Feeling owned yet Wayland shill?

>>106877174
i don't really have a personal need for mx linux these days, but i'm temped to give it a try anyway just because it seems like the closest analogue to the first distro i used; simplymepis

>>106876990
are you sure this installed correctly?

>>106877203
>Netlify.app (doesn't even have a proper TLD)
>Completely ignores that "the better way" was already tried (You can't make X11 better without breaking all of the historical cruft that some people still to this day depend on)

>>106877096
I tried bottles before, couldn't even get the installer to run
>>106877210
no

>>106876990
i'm tempted to try it
>obscure game from 1996
oh yea it's 16bit/dos/32bit abomination time

>>106876982
Xfce has had a wayland compatible telease for almost a year slowpoke

>>106877249
Kind of, it's more of an interim release while they work on making Xfmw4 into a Wayland compositor.

>>106877258
*Xfwm4 I mean:
https://github.com/adlocode/xfwm4/tree/wayland

>>106877203
>Have a read from this site
The site is so bad I regret reading any of it

>>106877203
>Have a read from this site https://stoppromotingwayland.netlify.app/
wayland/x11 is actually genuinely more painful than gtk/qt. i'm holding back from recommending linux until this blows over, and it's taking it's sweet time. we're in an unfortunate position where a few things work in wayland and most other things work in x11, but you can't run them both at the same time, you have to pick your poison. it's a bad situation

>>106877281
It is a pain, but that's why most people target GTK/Qt in the first place. Very few developers are actually building with raw Xlib or libWayland.

>>106877297
>>106877281
Also:
>you can't run them both at the same time
You can technically run a nested Wayland compositor inside of an X11 session if you want (kind of the X11 analogue to XWayland for Wayland) which you can use to run Wayland only apps like Waydroid, etc, in.

got a stupid question
am on kde plasma and every time i highlight text it will get copied into the clipboard but not really
like it doesnt show up in the clipboard widget and clearing it doesnt do anything either it will still paste the previously highlighted text if i middle click

>>106877326
It's a bug that happens in certain applications. I see this in Microsoft Edge sometimes (Yes, I use Edge sometimes when I want to stream videos on some sites that aren't handled too well in Firefox for whatever reason. It's actually a decent browser)

>>106877326
linux has 2 clipboards my dude

>>106877311
yes, i know you can run one nested in the other, i've used gamescope in x11, and i know xwayland exists, but it's not like qt/gtk where the exist in the same space. with wayland/x11 they can only coexist in a nested form, only one of them can be the "host".
like, i can't run a program in xwayland and expect to have xrandr features like custom resolutions available

>>106877341
3

>>106877281
gtk vs qt is completely irrelevant. nobody cares how applications look compared to each other. At that point might as well complain about non-native applications, ie webapps, which use their own individual design systems. The toolkit debate was always moronic.

>>106877326
this >>106877341
middle click pastes your previously highlighted text and it's not a clipboard.

>>106877379
ah, i just checked xsel, yeah, x11 has 3, but in wayland wl-paste only shows two
>inb4 ooooh, another downgrade!

>>106876992
Who let you out of the insane asylum?

I hate Linux.

>>106876990
>>106877242
knew it
>WinG
this takes me back. this tech is older than DirectX

>>106877341
>>106877383
this sucks ass i keep pasting shit on accident

>>106877403
>>inb4 ooooh, another downgrade!
na i'm just drunk and being a nuisance. nobody uses secondary selection these days

>>106877425
remove the middle mouse button from your mouse

Still new to linux, I read the default filepath to store programs and program data after an unpack is in/usr/bin/ , but I cannot unzip a .tar directly into it using Ark. I'm not sure how to unpack in terminal, because I assume this is something I can use sudo for, would it be better for me to learn to do that or should I run Ark with admin privileges, or should I just unpack somewhere else? I understand where I unpack it only matters to me but I want to retain as typical a storing system as I can just to get the hang of things.

>>106877421
>WinG
I feel my bones turning to dust.

>>106877468
right?

>>106877461
Same guy, while I would still like this question answered for contexts involving manual downloads in the future, I completely neglected that this was in typical program repositories and am just downloading it through pacman, so that's a headache saved.

I'm a Windows refugee and been trying Linux for a couple months now. I liek it a lot and I don't think I'll ever go back but whenever issues crop up I go in full on panic mode.
Last night I made a couple updoots and today it wouldn't boot properly. plasmashell krashing on startup then failing over and over again when I started it again via command line.
I tried rebooting from a backup but now it would only boot into the command line
>check out systemctl
>reboot command is this
good prompts at least they don't leave you completely alone with the black box.
look at failed boot log. Try looking up some stuff. Eyes glaze over... I can't do this man, to effectively use this you legit need a computer science background.

Eventually reboot and start from an older kernel (very cool that grub2 gives you that option) and it was fine but in moments like this I realise how helpless I'd be if I actually fucked up bad one day.
You guys know all this stuff or is this normal for regular people who just happen to use the gnu/linux operating system on their desktop PC at home?

>>106876990
Check appdb.winehq.org and pcgamingwiki for hints. Make friends with winetricks. It helps to have a distro with competent wine builds like Arch or Fedora. Configure fluidsynth with the fatboy sound font for extra credit.

>>106877425
If it really bothers you that much, you can create a script which runs the following command and have it run on startup.
wl-paste -p --watch wl-copy -cp

Or if you're still on X11 this should be the equivalent.
bash -c 'while true ; do xsel --primary --clear ; sleep 0.5 ; done'

It's a retarded solution but it mostly works.

>>106877461
You're not supposed to unpack stuff into the system /bin. Pretty much any place which requires root access is something you should never write into yourself.
Your package manager ("app store") should handle software installs. If you're getting an archive from a website instead of your package manager then you'll often have an install script in it or instructions on how to build/install the program somewhere in a readme.md/readme.txt file. Or check the instructions on the official website or git repo of whatever program you're trying to install.

>>106876990
honestly, this might be a task for 86box running windows 95

>>106877461
you should never, ever, unpack shit to /usr/bin
That's for your distro to write things to. You should install programs from your distro anyway/

>>106877522
what distro?

>>106877575
>>106877557
Thank you. The manual download did have a readme file, if I have to manually unpack next time I'll check that first.

>>106877585
I think it's popOS, it's known to break for no reason.

>>106876854
Debian stable is perfectly fine, if you need newer packages you can switch to the testing repositories, but I suggest stickinf to stable and using flatpaks and backports when required.
I wouldn't recommend sid for a beginner, I also think it defeats the point of using debian in the first place, you'd be better off using fedora/suse.
You would have to pass through the hardware token to the vm, look into that, and make sure you use virt-manager.
For overclocking/fan control go to /r/linux_gaming and to the wiki site that's linked there, it will also help out with other gaming needs and general beginner linux questions.
Also I would recommend KDE over XFCE but that's going to be subjective, just look it up or trying out, the version debian stable ships is pretty good, especially on amd gpus.
t. been gaming on debian stable for a few years using mostly flatpaks for both emulators and modern games

>>106877522
>You guys know all this stuff or is this normal for regular people who just happen to use the gnu/linux operating system on their desktop PC at home?
No. I use a distro I don't have to maintain. Look into Fedora Atomic or Universal Blue.

>>106877686
>gayming on debian

>>106877585
Nobara
>>106877675
idk what actually broke. I was also fiddling around with wallpapers and stuff (dual monitor setup), So it could be entirely on the KDE side
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Plasma-6.5-Crash-Fixes apparently the wallpaper engine is a problem child on 6.4.4?
>>106877688
yeah I know but I want to be able to install a package if I want to like wtf.
Maybe I will admit defeat and swallow the immutable pill eventually

>>106877735
>wallpaper engine
i tried it on my laptop with the wallpaper engine plugin and it completely broke kde for me
i had to reset all the themes through the terminal

>>106877735
>nobara
That's a meme distro anon...

>>106877735
>Nobara
nobara is known to be buggy when it comes to updates
>I want to be able to install a package if I want to like wtf.
>he thinks immutable means you can't install shit

>>106877522
>>106877735
Maybe switch to a better distro before this all happens again. Try Fedora or something idk, there are many good ones.

>>106875048
Anon, are you fresh out of a cryocapsule? Ubuntu has offered ext4 on LVM for the last... 15 years? Maybe more.
It's how you get encrypted disks there.

>>106877751
Not them, but it worked when I tried it on my desktop with AMD graphics. It's a complicated plugin that does a lot though, I'm not surprised it has the potential to cause crashes in Plasma.

I distro hopped using mint's built in usb burner... am I a part of a botnet now?

Changed distro to Mint and now Librewolf is a flatpak installation. It also fails to use my previous profile backup. I have successfully used this profile from Windows to Arch previously. I have ensured everything is 1:1 to my previous librewolf install. Checked about:profiles too and it just doesn't work. Any ideas? I wouldn't want to lose all of my bookmarks and cookies, there's some important stuff.
Is it an ownership issue? Shouldn't be.

>>106877871
>flatpak
it doesnt have permission to access your files
download flatseal

>>106877893
I doubt it's a permission issue.
>>106877871
Probably you have to copy/move your files into ~/.var/app where the Flatpak is.

>>106877868
distro hopped to what

>been asked to install ms office on a Linux machine
Does this thing even work through wine? Apparently they don't like Libre office very much, for a reason or another.
Some initial attempts just lead me to errors during the installation, farthest I got was an unimplemented function error (sppc.dll.SLInstallLicense) after which everything fails.

>>106877991
>SLInstallLicense
sounds like you need to install second life first

Quick question: I'm gonna have to bite the bullet soon and switch to Linux, but I have a 5090. Should I use Mint or Cachy? The only stuff I really do on it is play vidya and some hobbyist ML training stuff (upscaling), but I've read in multiple place that Mint is "behind" when it comes to drivers and kernels and stuff.

Should I move from Windows 10 to Arch? I just wanna game and do the occasional productivity task.

>>106878001
>have to deal with the furry erp just to install office

>>106877967
debian

>>106878019
Do you like to have a toxic relationship with your OS? Then yes.
If not, install something else.

>>106878033
Is there something like Mint that doesn't come pre-installed with a bunch of crap like libreoffice? I'm interested in a user-friendly but "clean" experience.

>>106877893
>>106877909
Never mind I'm a retard, I actually messed up the last backup. Luckily had somewhat older backup...
I changed the permissions with
>chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.var/app/io.gitlab.librewolf-community/.librewolf/
and selected profile with
>flatpak run io.gitlab.librewolf-community --ProfileManager

>>106878043
Any Ubuntu flavor comes with a minimal install iso these days. Otherwise, just uninstall libreoffice. It takes like a second.

>>106878033
>>106878019
I tested arch for couple of weeks and while configuring hyprland/vimrc/screenrc was fun I was sick and tired of the distro. Maybe it was just because of wayland but had a minimal install and it was taking way more memory than default linux mint cinnamon with default settings...
At least Mint resembles a functioning OS out of the box. But there is always something. It's not obvious yet...

>>106878043
You might try xfce. Base package only includes the desktop, settings, and a file manager. You can install everything else serately.

>>106869098
>the hardest distros are debian
And here I got it because it's well supported and common.

>>106878141
>debian is hard
Who told this to you? Because right now you're lying

>>106875651
its crazy that terry used to be like a normal functioning dude in society at one point

>>106878238
I meant to reply to
>>106869098

>>106878079
Arch is good if you have a lot of time on your hands. There are preconfigured deployments like garuda or endeavour that take some of the mental load off of you, but you're still sitting on a time bomb that will break eventually due to cruft buildup over the months.

Mint is great because it builds on stable foundations of Ubuntu and Debian, who take time to test the software they ship.

>>106878238
It doesnt hold your hand so = hard

>install gentoo
>never update anything for 2 years
>try to update system to fix game crashing
>everything broken
I think I'm too retarded to use a rolling release distro, do I switch to fedora or debian next? I just want a stable system running KDE Plasma that I can play games on.

>>106878409
Install Kubuntu non-LTS, or Fedora KDE. There is also PikaOS, but I'm not sure how viable it is in the long term.

>>106878409
get cachy then
its retard proof and has a widget to tell you when updates are available

>>106877731
debian is no different than fedora for gaming when everything goes through flatpaks

it's a 3 day long zfs scrub episode

New thread:
>>106879142
>>106879142
>>106879142

>>106879101
I believe that the kernel and drivers version still have an effect if the drivers for your hardware are getting improvements, that is.