Thread 106868384

>try macOS
Weird scaling since Big Sur, Settings menu has bipolar disorder, all the good widgets cost actual physical money
>try Windows
eleven different design languages in one, and they're not even trying to pretend that Windows Shell can work on anything slower than a quantum supercomputer (see NVIDIA documentation on Windows increasingly requiring more GPU resources just to idle), and the animations aren't even good enough to justify it
>try Xfce/LXQt/LXDE/Budgie/Cinnamon/Deepin/etc.
Dogshit Xorg DE is dogshit, anything without Wayland on a Unix-like system is a meme
>try GNOME
Inherently un-ergonomic design, GTK weirdness, it looks really good though - have to give them that
>Le window manager with a Waybar shell!!
They made five for Niri and not a single one allows you to adjust drawing tablet sensitivity without having to edit a .txt config (WMs don't come with text editors preinstalled and you have to manually set file extension associations)


I've tried them all, I've even tried ReactOS, yet I keep coming back to KDE Plasma, it is ergonomic, it is lightweight as fuck, it is so customizable I gave up on it halfway through because I couldn't decide how I wanted my desktop to look, it has proper fractional Wayland scaling support, it is the most mature with HDR thus far through Kwin, you can turn it into a tiling window manager with one script, how did the Germans do this? Is this the best desktop GUI in the history of desktop GUIs?

Forgot to mention
>COSMIC
it's in the alpha stage, looks promising, but every update is so different from what came beforehand that I don't know what direction they're taking with it anymore

>>106868384 (OP)
Back in the day, kde was flaky in some cases. Is it good now?

>>106868407
It's incredible, Plasma 5 was buggy as all hell, yes, but I've used Plasma 6+ on three different distros now, I have literally yet to encounter one issue for hundreds of hours and I'd consider myself a power user by Linux display standards

>>106868384 (OP)
Konqi has deposited 5 loads into your mouth.

>>106868384 (OP)
>krashes

i want to with konqi

>>106868484
I'm taking the dragoncum.

>>106868384 (OP)
Why does it show Okular as a video editor?

>>106868527
wat?

>>106868570
Sir/ma'am, that's a screenshot of Kdenlive being used to edit a promotional commercial for Okular, you have mistaken this for being Okular itself, somehow

>>106868582
is kdenlive any good?

>>106868612
It's okay for day-to-day, it's no Premiere alternative though, on Linux I use DaVinci Resolve Studio for colour-grading and big projects

KDE has some open-source projects that are pretty much FOSS industry standards like Blender now - one of which is Krita, but Kdenlive is not one of them unfortunately

>>106868634
Video is hard. On Samsung phones, you can assemble clips. Except it doesn't handle some videos correctly.

Don't kid yourself, kde is mostly developed by american trannies.

>>106868612
kdenlive is good enough for most people

>>106868425
@ me when this many hours in one single session without an issue
>inb4 "server" gotcha
it's LTSC but actually debloated, i use it as a fully functioning desktop gaming included, kill yourself

>>106868384 (OP)
>NVIDIA documentation on Windows increasingly requiring more GPU resources just to idle
?? Any links?

>>106868384 (OP)
KDE Plasma with XLibre + Kwin-X11-Lite > KDE Plasma with Wayland

>>106868899
Are you trying to compete with Linux in uptime? lol
also, outdated system, 1809, security vulnerabilites with no way to patch, useless desktop

>>106869419
I'd rather use Windows or any proprietary OS than outdated & insecure garbage like X11, which lacks support for the most basic of desktop features

I like KDE, but i can't use it on my desktop due to the fake mirror display issue. I use it on my laptop, though.

>>106868384 (OP)
>Is this the best desktop GUI in the history of desktop GUIs?
Did you try Haiku?

>>106869520
Wayland is not ready. Tray icons popups don't work properly under KDE Wayland but Xorg does. I've also been experiencing graphical flickerings and glitches on Wayland lately that I haven't seen on Xorg at all

I still haven't tried kde or wayland but xorg seemed bloated to me, might give those two a go, I hear a lot of hate for wayland and kde dough especially on this site but maybe they're just tards

>>106870986
>Tray icons popups don't work properly under KDE Wayland

What? This isn't true.
If Wayland "isn't ready" explain why every distro and desktop environment worth using has already switched to it.

>>106871166
The guy that maintains xorg doubted the covid vaccine and the tranny horde will not forgive or forget

>>106868484
>>106868494
>>106868492
Do not the Dino.

KDEnlive has no right being as good as it is.

>>106868384 (OP)
>German Engineering Is Real
Then why is SAP a fucking mess?

>>106871329
I don't really give a fuck whether he cares about vaccines or not.
Distros switched from Xorg because Xorg sucks dick, it is insecure by design, it does not support VRR, it does not support multiDPI, it does not support HDR, it does not support resolution scaling, it dies the moment you ask a window to not tear aggressively

>>106868384 (OP)
UUUUUOOHHHHHH

>>106868384 (OP)
Side note on OP's post, but it always bothered me that the artist drew the gear on the KDE logo backwards.

>>106868384 (OP)
Ehh? Just open dolphin and you'll realize why open source has killed itself. Linux had potential 25 years ago when it was lean and OS didn't update itself every 3 days but now, all these projects should be mature and they're more retarded than ever.
>qt6 save dialogue in librewolf
>cancel is at top left corner, save is at right corner
>typing invokes SEARCH not filename edit
Who the fuck thinks this is fine?

>>106869419
Why the fuck using KDE with x11? If I would be an Xorg tard I would use something without compositor at all.

>>106868634
Blender is not from KDE, it is its own project.

>>106873138
Works on my machine

GNOME is the best and you barely have to touch it besides installing like two plugins

for desktop usage I understand wanting KDE though

>>106868384 (OP)
>animations aren't even good enough to justify it
Yeah this is weird, the other day i made a windows 98 pcem VM and it felt funny that microsoft still does the same start menu animation they did back then only now it's not as smooth and looks worse.

>>106868384 (OP)
>5700X3D, 9070XT, 32GB RAM, samsung ultra whatever m2 DRIVE
>mfw it literally takes 1500ms to open up the fucking file explorer and 2000ms to open the Settings

>>106868398
Cosmic also seems to eat lot of memory. Not sure how it'll turn out.
I mean Windows 11 is a baseline with 2.5 GB initial usage. If some tranny desktop takes more by default it is automatically bad.

>>106868384 (OP)
Nothing wrong with either approach, and I generally prefer gnome+plugins to KDE.

But I just like something that's more straightforward and does what I want/need without giving me every potential option in any given scenario. Now some people want that and that's fine, they can use KDE.

>>106868384 (OP)
You forgot to mention Konqi

>>106868612
It's good enough to replace windows movie maker.

>>106868384 (OP)
german?

>>106868612
i used it to publish onlyfans videos for a bit but couldnt get the quality to be as good as when using davinci resolve. no idea why, couldnt figure it out so I went back

rape the t-rex

>>106869901
Is /g/ finally starting to embrace the Haiku superiority? This board is healing

>>106868384 (OP)
I use KDE because the alternatives are somehow worse, but let's be real, KDE is a crashy pile of ill-designed shit. And make no mistake, they are moving in the GNOME direction, they're just slow rolling the cancer.
Hell, Linux in general is fucking garbage, but so is Windows and MacOS, they're all trash. Hell, computers themselves are fucking trash.

>>106873138
Dolphin is amazing, though?

>>106873184
I said it was *like* Blender as in market adoption, not that Blender was made by KDE, sorry

>>106873506
Broken PC and/or user error

>>106873536
I'll forgive it as long as it's still on Alpha, if it gets better that's better for the consumer, especially since COSMIC is made from a company that sells laptops

>>106873734
KDE is an international organisation now, but we owe the beginning of the project and much of its 'core' (+hosting) to the Germans

>>106873536
I'm measuring 1.4 GB memory usage as a baseline. Works great on an old laptop with 4 GB RAM. It's actually as responsive as my current gen desktop now.

>>106868384 (OP)
Excuse my retardation, but I've never understood what difference different desktop environments do. Could someone please explain to me why I should care about GTK, Cinnamon, whatever because I still don't understand it.
Genuine question.

FREE MY BOY DRUMMYFISH

>>106868384 (OP)

want to tell more about reactOS they tell it is not linux but it is not named nt5 either

>>106868384 (OP)
I use KDE not because it's a good DE or a bad one, but because I really want to fuck Konqi and obsessively stalk the Konqi tag on e6 to download the latest porn.

>>106868384 (OP)
XFCE4 is one of the few DEs that are stable.

>>106874991
The environment is literally how you use your PC, it is your UI, it decides what software your desktop supports (or doesn't), the shell decides your performance in 3D applications, it influences how much free RAM you have while multitasking
It's more important than distro


>>106875849
Stability means nothing if your desktop is less useful than a smartphone, I have proper refresh sync and I can watch movies with real video codecs on my smartphone - you can't

>>106876606
>ackackackackackackackackackackackackack
the fuck does xfce have to with video codecs? besides, you LOST >>106868899

>>106869446
unironically kill yourself
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/windows-10-and-windows-server-2019-update-history-725fc2e1-4443-6831-a5ca-51ff5cbcb059

>>106874905
im talking about windows