Thread 106869202

calling everyone you disagree a nazi was not enough, you need to find more Odious Categories as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Being_Right
and now is ~le global fire turn

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/andurils-threat-is-existential/70811

>>106869202 (OP)
Why are the nix troons STILL seething about defense companies. They kicked out Eelco and rejected funding and as I understand now also reject patches and improvements from companies like anduril.
Which is why apparently they still block certain nix features and developments.

I mean I think Palmer Luckey is a massive faggot who should hang himself. But I don't get what the nix troons WANT at this point. The project is completely independent from Anduril otherwise isn't it?

What is the endgoal here?

>>106869276
>What is the endgoal here?
Total freedom bike-shedding, one free project at a time.

>>106869276
They do block patches, features and improvements of nix in order to virtue signal.
However that whole drama, on OPs post is about disallowing anduril to post on their forums.
Their biggest fear is that the elected steering committee might be vulnerable to infiltration by a malicious actor who might vote/campaign to allow defense companies to post on their forums.

>>106869435
Reminder, they hate Anduril because they worked with Trump to improve border security. Everything else is window dressing.

Daily reminder that no matter how much """libertarians""" and """liberals""" or any other """progressive""" try to gaslight you that they're removing people simply to make the code and the team behind it better, it's always a lie, they're only blocking and removing people that disagree with them on social shit and aren't even actively attacking them, but just simply disagree with playing the dancing monkey for their sick weimar republic fantasies, they instantly sperg out and sabotage entire country government processes or distributions to own the chuds. They're conniving and plotting creatures, but not cunning, just disgusting and easily caught in act if you pay more attention.

>>106869202 (OP)
I fucking hate trooniggers so much, especially the ones clogging up NixOS from actually getting worked on. I wish they'd just get their dick stuck in a blender and die so we can all get back to work.

>>106869202 (OP)
>trannies
Every single time. Do they not realize how much they're making people hate them? Even the normies on reddit downvote trans shit now outside of the designated subs.

>>106869435
>infiltration by a malicious actor
the irony

>>106869202 (OP)
>communist propagandist mental breakdown thread
i know i'm glad that over a million russians were killed via chinese toy drones.
>>106869276
>>106869898
>>106870039
>be losers
>life's biggest and most embarrassing losers
>can't code
>thinks open source projects will bend the knee to communist child rapists and subhuman filth that don't even know how a light switch works
talentless pedophiles, everyone.

It was maybe 10 years ago that I didn't wish death upon anyone.
Things are so different today.

I just want to use nixos without all the tranny drama. At this point if anduril jumps ship I'm going to whatever they end up using, even if it's (((guix)))

>>106869202 (OP)

What did you expect from a tranny distro?

>>106869276
All troons in software are political saboteurs and they always try to take over projects through these antics

>>106869202 (OP)
Nigger.
You're the reason that we don't have the multithreaded evaluator in mainline Nix.

>>106869202 (OP)
The silver lining to all this is that we live in a time when the most selfish and evil people are making lifestyle and fashion choices that mark them like a brand for everyone to see

>>106869276
>Which is why apparently they still block certain nix features and developments.
Depends on what you're thinking of. E.g. lazy trees is not merged because DetSys is like "a little bit of non-determinism never hurt anybody" and roberth is all autistic about that, which IMO is the right choice. So not all of it trannies, some of it is DetSys being corporate niggers delivering slop.

>>106869898
I mean they are currently trying to kill Framework and it label it fascist because of the severe crime of donating to hyprland and omarchy.

>>106869898
>"""libertarians""" and """liberals""" or any other """progressive"""
I appreciate the scare quotes. those fucking guys really are authoritarians. I really hopes the world wakes up to this fact and kills them all before they irreversibly destroy civil society.

>>106871335
>>communist propagandist mental breakdown thread
>i know i'm glad that over a million russians were killed via chinese toy drones.
>>>106869276
>>>106869898
>>>106870039
>>be losers
>>life's biggest and most embarrassing losers
>>can't code
>>thinks open source projects will bend the knee to communist child rapists and subhuman filth that don't even know how a light switch works
>talentless pedophiles, everyone.

>>106869202 (OP)
Just use a simple, no-nonsense distribution like Debian and call it a day.

>>106869202 (OP)
These AGP tr00ns are using their tranny tantrums and politicial shit flinging as a means. The real end goal is just establishing bolshevik office politics and establish a hardline clique only their tranny buddies can join.

>>106869202 (OP)
Use case for nix?

>>106872093
Debian is ultra-left

>>106872243
Yes, it just works and that's a good thing. NixOS and the like are just authoritarian bullshit in sheep's clothing.

>>106872264
I mean the technology itself has no politics.. but the people involved for some reason are batshit crazy.

>>106872243
Debian as a whole is old school left.
Nu-lefties hate our kind and started calling us rightwing too, but we are dying anyway.

>>106869875
i will move once they replace shepherd with systemd.

>>106869202 (OP)
Here's the next woke talking point thoughever https://blog.simn.me/posts/2024/population-aging/
Unc is out of date :skull:

>>106869202 (OP)
I am happy that nixos stands against defense contractors, and I'm not the only one, clearly.
Why would I want my OS to be helping killing people?

>>106872243
Every package is older than your mom and nothing work like arch

>>106869202 (OP)
NixOS is amazing technology but the community is simultaneously full of lobotomized retards. Luckily one of the main reasons I like it is that you can customize everything locally without having to talk to these deranged ""people"" on github.

>>106871795
Eelco and DetSys is entirely unrelated to Anduril? Or have I misunderstood the situation?

>>106872720
systemd maintainers are anti-fash chud
>detect-fash: A utility to detect problematic software and configurations
>This is actually fairly well written and complete. Kudos!
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/39285

NixOS needs a BDFL that pulls the community back in line. Eelco was too lazy to do it himself, which is why the community is in this mess in the first place.

>>106873913
> eelco was too lazy to do it himself
Can you really blame him not wanting to engage with these people further?
Even if he kicked them all out, it's not like the harassment would have ever stopped, they would instead campaign to have articles written to slander him everywhere.
They are still angry at him even though basically backed down immediately and handed the project over.

>>106873973
>muh slander
>muh harassment
Don't use your real name online, faggot
>B-B-BUT THE SPONSORSHIPS!!!

>>106873797
but systemd maintainers literally refused this pr.
does it make systemd nazi? hmmm...

>>106873973
I don't blame him. Working on functional programming and deterministic builds is way more interesting than managing a flock of rabid dogs. I'd do the same.

>>106869202 (OP)
I do not care. Take Anduril's money and patches if it improves the project. Computers are bad for the environment.

>>106869202 (OP)
damn what a retard lol, rent free

>>106873986
What are you even trying to say.
Nigger created nix as a research project and made it into his phd thesis. Those are not private.
Was he supposed to pretend "nuh uh I'm not nix man, I'm just a fan" for the rest of his days while playing unpaid janny?
> stay anonymous, don't directly interact with anyone, never accept donations, sponsorships or funding
At that point why even go through the effort of constantly removing disgusting lgbts when you can instead get a comfy position elsewhere based on your work.
Nixos is a drifting ship without any leadership or vision now. Kept afloat by a bunch of random packagers who desperately want to pad their github resume.
It's what NixOS wanted, and the "community" then even voted for people like "Gabriella".
It's beyond saving and not worth the cleaning duty.

I would have left as well.

>>106873797
The wording man “ which scans a system for the presence of software and configurations known to be associated with fascist ideologies.” Like what? Xlibre? I love Linux but I can’t stand this side of the community.

>>106873986
Nix was his thesis retard how would it not have his name on it

>>106872054
Imagine looking at this picture and thinking: "yeah that's the one I want to use as my profile picture".

>>106874129
imagine using a profile picture. i'm not giving glowies any more info than absolutely necessary.

Lundkike just can't keep it to himself, someone kill this man already.

>>106873913
>>106873973
>>106874015
>Eelco was too lazy to do it himself
TRVKE. Trannies only started taking ober because he was too lazy not only to manage the community, but to drive development of Nix properly outside of whatever got DetSys money. This shitstorm is 100% on him. If only he got his shit together or instead delegated properly to non-insane people, we wouldn't have been in this dung.

>defence BAD
just because trannies are suicidal, doesn't mean the nation has to be

>>106874067
that's a tasteful rainbow

>>106875530
kek'd

>>106873913
trvthnvke
nix would have been great if eelco became bdfl

>>106874095
That is the problem, he wanted to benefit from it and as such he gave out his real name.
If he didn't want to benefit from his work, he woudln't have to give out his real name
You have two options, be an online dictator that nobody knows who you are and be well known by your real name.
He chose the latter.

>>106873913
>Eelco was too lazy to do it himself, which is why the community is in this mess in the first place.
Sad, many such cases.

>>106869202 (OP)
There was a moment some years ago where it looked like open source projects were going to start telling trannies like this who only submit REEEEEE and never submit patches to just fuck off. Unfortunately, it looks like that never came to fruition.

>>106869202 (OP)
compiling packages is bad for the planet.

>>106874070
stop caring about the community.
regarding any subject, especially online.
it's that simple.

>>106873986
retarded take

>>106869276
Unironically, autism.
Not trying to be funny or edgy, I genuinely think a lot of these "bash the fash" types of people are actually high functioning spergs.
Think about it; this is basically the grown-up equivalent to sperging out because your food is touching each other on your fucking zoo pals plates. Combine this with how a lot of autists are usually prone to radicalization on "either" side (lol) and are extraordinarily hard headed a lot of the time, and it all begins to make sense

>>106869202 (OP)
The DRAMA has ESCALATED? Somone made a post on a forum?! Hoooo. Leeee. Shiiiiiit. I can't believe it, this is HUGE. How are they going to respond? Withhold an updoot? Wait... you don't think... no, of course not, they're not going to make a reply, comment that's just crazy talk, there's no need to go that far. I am at the edge of my seat, this is more exciting than that time I almost splashed some paint and then imagined watching it dry in my head

>>106869276
it's a good way for americas adversaries to disrupt progress. troons are easily brainwashed (see: free Palestine protests)

>>106869898
> but not cunning, just disgusting and easily caught in act if you pay more attention.
Yeah, cause most of those people are in power and you are on. So much for you being so smart right! Fucking kill yourself.

>>106869898
>>106869202 (OP)
oh wait another nothing burger. btw if you retards want to actually defeat these people call them russian/chinese actors because they aren't "libertarians/liberals/progressives" they are literal russian/chink shills. They want the US to become weaker and what they are advocating is the weakness of the US. Report them to the FBI.

>>106869202 (OP)
>meaningless forum post
/pol/

>>106881862
oh look after I mention all of these retards spamming are russian/chink chills they spam harder

>>106881840
Libtard had a stroke typing this babble lmao

>>106869202 (OP)
How does this affects me as a user?

troon: globohomo is le bad
/g/: nooooo you are a troon

>>106876472
You might actually have brain damage

>>106869202 (OP)
>US interventions have served to spread capitalist policy
lol
yeah, that's why we bombt he ME all the time

>>106883680
Wake me up if the Jewish golems start to fight against their creator without all the constant culture war nonsense with which they constantly attack and sabotage everyone.
Currently trans people are campaigning against open hardware as well.

>>106872554
https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity

>>106874067
I liked the ideas behind Nix, this is pretty disappointing to see it consumed by the cancer.

>>106885223
Nix has always been trash. How has it been "consumed" though? Isn't that just your neurotic tendencies and crippling autism speaking?

>>106875466
>If only he got his shit together or instead delegated properly to non-insane people, we wouldn't have been in this dung
If only you would've become a part of this "we", instead of just an armchair pundit. Nix is a solution looking for a problem though, so it figures that the entire community are lazy and/or time-wasting tinkertrannies.

>>106881156
>high functioning

>>106871433
>At this point if anduril jumps ship I'm going to whatever they end up using, even if it's (((guix)))
Why you're this emotionally invested in Anduril? Aren't they just another bunch of zog contractors?

>>106885223
really sad
many such cases

>>106869202 (OP)
>/g/ defending defense contractors because they're (((based)))
shithole board

>>106887736
who let you leave /pol/?

>>106887736
>defense contractors
Absolutely based
The internet was created by DARPA btw
So GTFO faggot

>>106881156
They are def on both sides. I have a relative in social work and we live in a pretty conservative part of the US and you wouldn't imagine the amount of unironic retards, and literal autists with swastikas on them and whatnot that they meet.

They just aren't as openly active as the leftist tism variants.

>>106885831

USMC Warfighting Laboratories beat the shit out of those guys any day of the week.

Semper Fidelis.

>>106881817
>troons are easily brainwashed (see: free Palestine protests)
Most people prostesting at those aren't even troons, they're just severely mentally ill people who got brainwashed by the $CURRENT_THING.
In the 80s they would have been the extremely christian, anti videogames, anti movies and anti music protesters.

>>106869202 (OP)
>global warming is a problem
>NixOS refuses to release their ghg numbers for the tens of thousands of packages stored on Amazon S3 for cache.nixos.org
>community refuses to develop hydra to the point where you can simply enter a URL to have it compile packages locally to decentralize nixos and reduce carbon emissions

This is an attempt by the EU to stifle the innovation of the US (including its MIC) since the NixOS foundation is from the netherlands. IMO its because they have ASML and think they are more important than the USA, so they think they can insert their arbitrary demands into the project to shut us out.

We need to completely dissolve NATO, let Iran nuke these retards.

>>106869435
>vote/campaign to allow defense companies to post on their forums.
Protip: they are already posting their and have been for years. They've also contributed load-bearing pieces of code that have no other maintainers :^)

>>106888108
Those crayon eaters are the ones getting ideas from Anduril, dumbass.
They're just implementers and refiners, skilled labor.

>>106869202 (OP)
>capitalism can't solve climate change
The only two countries that met the Kyoto protocols' goals were the US and France.
France, of course, was one of the authors of the Protocol and used nuclear energy to meet their goal.
The USA refused to sign the Protocols and made the goals via efficiency.

>>106888452
Fuck you and your third-world shithole, ameriturd, we don't want your retarded ass in our grorious EUSSR build tool project. BTW ASML is now built with NixOS, get shat on.

>>106885744
Ain't nobody will ever be paying me enough to do human interaction shit, never mind doing it for free. The current shitstorm is partially caused by turning SC into autist central, they fucking suck at governance because they're gonna (rightly) go OOOH SHINY 0.1s after they see a new coding problem and forget they have a community to manage.

>>106889134
US has per capita higher emissions than China while producing nothing

>>106890578
>producing nothing
LOL good one.

>>106890658
Yeah, what do you produce?
>INB4 muh intelectual property
Doesn't count, try again.

>>106888600
Valkyrie beats the shit out Fury.

>>106890827
how so

>>106888108
>USMC Warfighting Laboratories
based

>>106881803
This.

>>106892485

For starters we can see the Kratos Valkyrie actually operate.

>>106897570
But is it built reproducibly? I think not!

>>106897755
hahahahhha

>>106898422
kek

>>106869898
They seem to not understand that mass migration and low birth rates they actively contribute to is bigger danger for their lifestyles than climate change or even American dominance. Without USA there would be no Europe, it would be only Russian Empire. There is like trillion non-whites waiting for opportunity to move to EU and trannies want them all in. Fucking freaks.

Can I actually get a qrd of all this drama?, that screenshot looks like total skizo gibberish to me out of context.

>>106898713
https://archive.is/XbP3W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp0FI8Gw1iA

>>106890722
>what do you produce
The US?
>powerplant turbines and jet engines
>aircraft
>weapons
>vehicles
>half the world's copper
>half the world's food
>one quarter of the world's oil

>>106898800
Don't forget mutt engineering.

>>106898713
> be Eelco
> write Nix for your PhD
> be some other guy
> write NixOS for your PhD
> nobody cares
> whole lot of nothing happens
> Eelco just does fuck all
> OH SHIT $PAYING_CUSTOMER WANTS FLAKES FOR YESTERDAY
> shove them through without an RFC addressing their problems
> this made a lot of people understandably angry
> Eelco does fuck all again
> nothing improves in NixCpp in forever
> people start giving some fucks about Nix and NixOS
> Eelco doesn't give a fuck about community
> people get somewhat annoyed at his shitty management
> roberth joins NixCpp team
> NixCpp situation starts finally improving a bit, bugs get fixed, features get added
> LE WILD ANDURIL APPEARS
> LE TRUMP GETS ELECTED
> OH SHIT OH FUCK NAZIS WANT TO GIVE US MONEY AND ADVERTISE ON OUR CONFERENCE
> IT'S LE HECKIN' END OF THE WORLDERINIO
> WE DON'T WANNA THOSE JESUS-MURDERING FUCKS HERE
> Anduril gets disinvited but people quite anyway because they feel LE UNSAFE with fascists like THE PERFIDIOUS JON RINGER IN THE COMMUNITY
> Another year, another NixCon
> WHY THE FUCK NOBODY FORBIDDEN ANDURIL SPONSORSHIP AGAIN YET??? ALSO, LET'S BAN JON RINGER WHILE WE'RE AT IT????
> ACTUALLY, THIS IS ALL EELCO'S FAULT, WE DON'T WANT HIS SHITTY MANAGEMENT ANYMORE
> OPEN_LETTER.JIFF
> YOU DUTCH LOON RESIGN OR ELSE
> eelco_resigns.png
> something something LET'S WRITE NIXOS CONSTITUTION
> something something LET'S VOTE FOR OUR NIXOS MPS TO REPRESENT US AND BRING BALANCE TO THE COMMUNITY
> people get voted in
> crickets
> more crickets
> SC does approximately nothing
> someone quits SC of burnout
> another dude quits SC of burnout
> OH SHIT, WOKE MODERATOR RESIGNED (le current drama)
> OY VEY, SC WANTED TO FIRE THEM ALL
> OH SHIT OH FUCK INTERNAL DRAMA AND DEADLOCKS GET WHISTLEBLOWN
> REE MUH FUCKING GOVERNANCE IS ON FIRE
> uhhh, is that the vote time of the year again, people?
> F U C K
> Another ANDURIL PEOPLE BETTER NOT BE FUCKING RUNNING AGAIN drama ensuers
> ???
> YOU ARE HERE
Hope that helped

>>106898910
Also, lots of trannies and tankies yelling MUH NAZIS sprinkled throughout

>>106872754
You being alive means you have contributed to killing some other country by your government funding some major power.
Time to kys to end the suffering.

>>106872754

I understand your concerns, however a point in favor of this effort is the possibility of preventing the lost of real human lives. The REAL CHALLENGE is force the people on top play the game right.

For example, take a look what is happening with Maduro's Regime and the 22th bombarding motor speed boats.

What if the Maduro Regime takes one of the RAMMAX unmmaned systems they got from Iran and install the neural network into the speed boat? No lost of human lives from both sides. Win Win.

And you don't even need a bleeding-edge sexy new technology like the transactional package management system to generate an infinite quantity of RAMMAXES waiting to be deployed inside a repository inside Miraflores, just use clonezilla over a TCP/IP network to mass load the drug boats.

>>106898910
what in the actual nigger

>>106869202 (OP)
climate is such a stupid religion

>>106869276
>But I don't get what the nix troons WANT at this point.
Take a look at the leftists handbook. They don't really know what they want, they just want to exert power over everyone else.
>>106869435
>Their biggest fear is that the elected steering committee might be vulnerable to infiltration by a malicious actor who might vote/campaign to allow defense companies to post on their forums.
So a pot calling the kettle black, how classic.

>>106869276
>what is the endgoal here?

Hostile take over the project so they can grab some C-Suite position in another company interested in sieze control of the technology and the brand. Probably more than one organization is doing this at the same time using members of the community as pieces in the chess board.

That's my theory.

>>106898786
>>106898910
wow thank you, that's probably more than I ever wanted to know about this

>>106897570
so what we just unveiled this cool video game hud for warfighters https://www.anduril.com/hardware/eagleeye/

>>106869202 (OP)
Wtf did I even read? What does this have to do with NixOS?

>>106901822

If you create a technology and the technology is good, you are going to have clients. That's how Open Source works.

>>106901955
I understood later what was the point. Whoever is managing NixOS needs to be kicked out. They don't know what they're doing.

>>106902010

The question arises: who owns Nixos? Who has the authority to enforce any action?

using only the information decanted from the 4chan nix threads, The Steering Committee is the ultimate source of decision-making, legitimized by the Nixos Constitution.

The Nixos Constitution is the law that governs the organization, and it establishes that the Steering Committee is elected by votes.

Now, the game of politics is set through the rules of representative democracy, played by different pagan factions wanting to mold the project to satisfy their needs and moods.

You need to determine what groups likes what and establishes working groups to keep at least some king of cohesion as a collective. You need to give people something to do, so they keep their minds actually busy with something useful. For example, myself as an information security specialist naturally I am going to lean to The Anduril NixOS standard and networking or embedding systems.

But you also need to promise jobs.

>>106901822
> What does this have to do with NixOS?
You are looking at the mind of the upcoming NixOS leadership

I think the mods and anti-woke retards should both shut the fuck up and just work on the damn OS.