Thread 106871429

>TSMC can no longer sell chips to the US
It's over, China won

>>106871429 (OP)
Based. Total USA golem death

>>106871429 (OP)
Meanwhile TSMC responded saying "Almost none of China's rare earth material is used in the creation of super conductors. The overwhelming majority comes from Europe, USA, and Japan. China's restrictions won't impact our international business at all."

https://www.tipranks.com/news/taiwan-says-chinas-rare-earth-rules-wont-disrupt-tsmc-or-chip-supply

>>106871429 (OP)
Didn't Trump debunk this already? He tweeted about Xi having a melty but I don't know what that was about.

>>106871470
Nothing ever happens.

considering that the US is like 10x the market, they would probably just tell china to eat shit, resource, and exit the chinese market entirely

>>106871429 (OP)
>Could Be
ok chang

>>106871507
Everything is happening all the time. Trump is going to enact total non-american death.

>>106871470
*invades your tiny ass island*
Now what, bitch?

>>106871546
did you mean non-israeli?

>>106871561
I said non-american, Mr ESL

Trump's big on tech. The business tycoon is buddy buddy with tech bros like the charming playboys Elon Musk and Tim Apple. He can also count on his own wiz kid, the 7 foot Barron, who's big on cyber, helping track down potential Antifa on forums like 4channel where they congregate using distros such as debian, openSUSE and Arch Linux

>>106871546
>but but
Nothing ever happens

>>106871429 (OP)
This would legitimately start a war if it happened
Millions will die for racist anime llm waifus

>>106871546
It won't.

>>106871617
>>106871663
It's already happening right now. Your denial of reality is shrimply not my problem.

>disrupting the AI industry
oh no

>>106871429 (OP)
we warned the taiwanese niggergooks to move their factories over to the US....they laughed

now China took over the Taiwanese economy without firing a shot

Taiwan will be just another chinese sweatshop like Vietnam, Cambodia, etc

>>106871429 (OP)
even if we got cut off from tsmc it wouldn't be an immediate ko. right now we rely on scale of compute but model efficiency is still in its infancy. seeing this with TRMs, need to see how it develops outside of vision
>>106871650
god i wish grok was real

>>106871429 (OP)
>speculative article
>stated as fact
kill yourself

>>106871554
try it lmao

>>106871470
here is the thing tho

>Under the measures announced today, foreign firms will now be required to obtain Chinese government approval to export magnets that contain even trace amounts of Chinese-origin rare earth materials

>>106871429 (OP)
This would be funny beyond measure.

>>106871470
Almost none isn't none tho

>>106874373
That's fine, they will use the almost none of the chinese shit domestically.

>>106874373
What devices use magnets in computers these days?

>>106874429
FDD

>>106871470
China’s government is actually making a huge mistake with this but i shan’t explain why because I greatly enjoy seeing wumao redditors suffer.

>>106871470
there's no shot this was gonna happen anyway, but nice to get confirmation.

>>106871470
That sounds fine until you learn that EU, US, and Japan sends rare earths to China for processing.

>>106874426
considering that china has monopoly in some cause you can only find them in china?

yeah..

Good riddance. If that means less americans on the internet then it's a win-win situation.

to american: please stop bully china. china in vulnerable position and rely on your consumer economy

continue to buy chinese good and be nice to communism sank yu sank yu so mach

>>106874373
But how will China enforce this?

>>106871554
You realize the only reason the US is protecting Taiwan is TSMC?

gpus gonna triple price again?

>>106876785
>They check the supply chain
>blank ban all the people involved

>>106876829
Yeah but the magnets or whatever are already out of the country. What's to stop the foreign firms from promising not to export it to whoever and then just turning around and doing it anyway?

>>106871429 (OP)
Doesn't that just mean that TSMC will have to shift production chains to accomodate yet another bullshit trade restriction?
Because they're not just going to abandon a large market like the US, and China has little say over a Taiwanese company.

>>106871429 (OP)
>China won
Remember all those Chinese overseas interests in western companies? All those companies they outright bought?
Many western countries have articles of law that allow them to nationalize privately owned businesses in case of impending threat to their vital infrastructure, to the state of their economy, or to their industry and means of production.

The Dutch just did it with Nexperia, which is (was?) owned by the Chinese Wingtech. The Amsterdam chamber of commerce shoved aside the current Chinese national that was appointed as CEO and installed their own surrogate, along with moving control of nearly all the company's stock to another party. They've effectively disowned the Chinese.

(Should you not know the name Nexperia: they're an A-brand; probably *the* A-brand manufacturer of components and low-end but resilient chip-tech that goes into consumer and industrial technology applications, as well as automotive. Losing them would be a major hit to the west's capability to maintain and expand logistics and industry.)

>>106876785
>>106876726
as he said

plus
you arent thinking big enough
usa up untill 2024 had a near monopoly on helium production 3 companies in usa and 6 globally all using american tech
that was the only big advantage usa had over china
and now this is over https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3282295/china-quietly-extracting-itself-us-helium-stranglehold-experts-say

thats why china is pulling an american move now
its because they absolutely can now

>>106871561
>>106871582
Why are you guys acting like there is a difference?

>>106877044
What about >>106876858?

>>106877076
same thing that happens with russia
officially they aint getting shit
from third countries they can
which will cost a shitload more

>>106877132
So prices will go up but the materials will still be obtained. Seems largely like business as usual. Russia seems to be doing ok.

>>106877151
well yeah lol

if you put the same sanctions russia has on germany or japan or spain they gonna fucking sank the very next day

usa russia and china however are a total different beasts
they are vast and their domestic production is high