Thread 106871886

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid purchases for new builds but if you have an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which may or may not solve the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>106866894

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

What chink mouse is closest to a G Pro Superlight?

>>106871918
I have a vgn draongfly moba and it's great and only costs like half

>>106871886 (OP)
trying to hold on the next generation of CPUs is hard when all these sales are going on anons...
I don't even need it. I just feel the need to CONSOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>106871918
I have the same mouse as this >>106871981 anon and yeah it's pretty cool.
I think they released a newer version of it though at the same price or something

What's a good wireless ergonomic gaming mouse? There's too many to choose from...

Concise GPU and CPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

Am i getting this right?
>well reviewed AM5 board
>well reviewed 1 or 2 tb nvme
>well reviewed 16x2 6000 30CL ram
>well reviewed 750 gold psu
>phantom spirit cooler
>1440p 160hz+ screen

Then depending on my budget
>9600x 7800x3d 9800x3d
>9070 9070xt 5070TI
The first combo being about 1100, then 1500, then 1800.
Any spare budget can be used to spruce a bit the components on the first part

This is the basic build right now? Im not hurting for money but i dont care for aesthetics, or features i will never use. I want a machine to watch youtube, send emails and play vidya for the next 4-6 years and then do this process again.
Thank you

>>106872175
>Also a well reviewed ample case so i have a bit of extra room when building the pc as i dont have the most experience.

>Any spare budget can be used to spruce a bit the components on the first part
Meant spruce up obviously, just saw that it looked weird

>>106872175
Mostly correct but a few things
>>well reviewed 750 gold psu
750 would be fine but consider 850 as a potential spruce up
>>106872175
>>phantom spirit cooler
Consider an AIO instead. They are very cheap now.

For cpu and gpu I would say 7800x3d and 9070 xt will do pretty well and you can put the extra 300 dollars towards getting a good 1440p oled

Good luck with your build anon

>>106872175
Don't use AIO. There's no benefit except aesthetic. And it needs maintenance. Air coolers are better

>>106872217
> I would say 7800x3d and 9070 xt will do pretty well
Its currently my preferred combo, unsure on the comparisons with the 5070TI, as this board is nigh unusable on that regard with all the memery and shit flinging. I dont think i need anything extra the 5070TI offers but i also would feel like crap if in 2 years i can activate a feature on a game or whatever cause its locked behind some nvidia shit, i dont really care that much for ray/path tracing. I dont need my games to be in ultra with all the shit activated.
>750 would be fine but consider 850 as a potential spruce up
Noted, i have noticed that there isnt a massive price difference between 650 750 850 for similar quality psu. The 750 i was eyeing is about 25€ cheaper than the 850 one i would pick. So i will consider it

>Consider an AIO instead. They are very cheap now.
>>106872332
>Don't use AIO
Im most likely sticking to a good air cooler, the case will sit on the ground outside view so any aesthetic edge would be lost (besides me not really caring for it).
I would consider an aio if it was needed from a performance point of view, if the cooler wouldnt be enough for my choice of cpu.

Thank you.

I removed the base 9070 off the list of possibles and replaced it with 5060TI 16gb on the cheapest combo with the 9600x, for one is cheaper and for another the 9070 seems like a bad deal overall, if im in a position where i would pick one i would just pick an xt model for 90€ more.
I have made a couple configurations on pcpartpicker. Will probably wait for black friday in case i can save 50€ or something like that among all the pieces.
Any further advice is more than welcome

>>106872350
>would feel like crap if in 2 years i can activate a feature on a game or whatever cause its locked behind some nvidia shit
can't activate
i should proof read these posts

>>106872350
I honestly also consider going 4k. It's 2025, why would anyone settle for anything less? The difference between QHD and UHD is enormous to be honest. But that also basically force you in getting the 5070 ti. Since the biggest advantage of nvidia is getting DLSS. You'd definitely see the power at a 4k screen. It's right now years ahead of AMDs FSR. Also way more games support it.

>>106872381
>It's 2025, why would anyone settle for anything less?
Space constraints on the desk and viewing distance. 24" 1080p is perfectly fine. The majority of mainstream games cannot be run on 4k without upscaling and frame gen as well.

>>106872411
27" 4k is best for high ppi and easily fit on any desk.
>upscaling and framegen
And that makes it bad how? Except the 5090 no card runs 4k native. DLSS makes it look even better.
>24" 1080p is fine
Lol. Lmao

>>106872381
Im the anon you responding to
Im not the biggest graphics fidelity enthusiast, i dont mind playing a game with my settings on medium if that is what it takes for it to run smooth.
Also i think that the 5070TI would be too much on an "entry level 4k card" and it would fall short of 4k demands too soon for vidya.
Im fine sitting this one out and moving to 1440p (im on a 59hz 1080p monitor right now) and getting to 4k on the next change in a couple/few years.
I appreciate the advice, i dont think its for me right now tho.

>>106872411
>Space constraints on the desk
Im planning to move to 27 1440p and salvage this current monitor as second monitor. I havent considered the space, i will need to do some rearranging actually. Literally hadn't thought of it.

Thank you.

>>106872453
I had a 4k 27" and didn't really see much of a difference compared to 27" 1440p other than games having lower fps which I find much more noticeable.

>>106872469
A human eye can't see a difference above 60 fps which you'll run minimum with DLSS on at 4k. If you didn't see a difference between QHD and UHD you either bought trashy calibrated monitors or have eye issues.

>>106871886 (OP)
quick question

1st ngdp
core reactor ii
vita gm

which one?
all are 850w

>>106872131
ryzen x3d + rtx = patrician

>>106872534
ryzen x3d + rtx = console migrant

>>106872482
Human eyes don't see in fps just like they don't see in ppi. If you're not glued to your monitor assuming normal 20/20 vision at recommended distance the difference between 4k and 1440p is minimalistic.

>>106872557
False all around. Text clarity and crispness is a gigantic difference between 1440p and 4k, assuming they're the same sized monitors viewed at the same distance.

>>106872568
Like I said don't be glued to your monitor. Recommended viewing distance for 27" is around 80 cm and at this point the difference is minimalistic. You can use 4k as AA alternative here but the drop in fps is just not worth it.

>>106872131
>Steamdeck = Family/Job faggot

>>106872582
80cm is like the max you'd want to use 27" at and you can definitely see the difference between 4k and 1440p even at that distance

>>106872582
The drop in fps once again is neglible and well compensated with DLSS on. 4k DLSS >> 1440P native. Most people don't sit at that max distance, 60 cm would be a more generous estimation and at that point only a blind person wouldn't be able to tell the difference

>>106872604
>80cm is like the max you'd want to use 27"
What? The lowest recommendations are around 60 cm going up to 1m. I personally find 65 cm too close already.

>>106872625
thats your personal preference but monitor distance recommendations are usually based on resolution with a minimum somewhere around an arms length

the upper end of human vision gives puts you at about 1.1 meters before ppi exceeds visual acuity for a 27" screen at 4k

>>106872624
>4k DLSS >> 1440P
I've read this a few times already but I'm still not convinced. Of course if you have a 4k monitor 1440p will look like ass due to the scaling factor but with a 1440p monitor? Modern AA is garbage but one can use DLAA at this point as well that seems to be less janky as quality upscaled 1440p to 4k.

Any pointers on this one, just for gaming for the next 5 years? Would you change something because of reliability or because of compatibility? Buying from Finland:
Cpu 7800x3d
Gpu Sapphire pulse 9070 xt
Ssd WD Black SN850X 2TB
Ram Gskill Trident Z5 NEO 6k 2x 16gb
MB Asus tuf gaming b650-plus
Psu Corsair rm850x
Case Lian Li lancool216rx
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 se

>>106872743
I meant more like that a 4k monitor using DLSS is way better than a 1440p monitor running natively, trying to make the case that even if you dont run your 4k monitor natively, it will still outperform a 1440p monitor. Of course, a 1440p monitor upscaling to 4k resolution will look garbage.

>>106872131
enthusiasts dont buy locked down and gimped gaming only hardware, Radeon is non starter

>>106872810
personally not a fan of the lancool 216 because 160mm fans are ass to find replacements for but otherwise fine

>>106872810
absolutely fine overall
if im being picky there HAS to be a reason for the sapphire pulse to have been the cheapest 9070xt ever since the release, maybe check some model comparisons and see if there are better options that arent much more expensive
you can probably pick a cheaper set of ram, mobo and hard drive and never notice the difference
you CURRENTLY dont need the 850w psu if a 750 psu is available at a better/much better price
the case is up to debate, i personally find the montech air 903 to be simply perfect for those budget conscious builds and is probably slightly cheaper, but i understand cases are also about looks
Again, its perfectly fine if you rather click buy, just worth to give those points a check up, just in case

I have no idea what the pic says, i literally googled finnish memes and picked the first image

>>106872840
you can adjust the mounting bracket to use 120/140mm fans though

>>106872722
>are usually based on resolution with a minimum somewhere around an arms length
You could just use math https://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensityCalculator.html

>>106873105
yes I used a calculator to get those numbers
not sure what your point is

>>106872810
pick tray only

Which one should I get?
Also what would you change?

Im gonna be getting a 9950x3d soon. Will my thermalright phantom spirit evo be enough to cool it during use?

>>106873629
There's an easy way to check. Look at the TDP of the processor and then check the max TDP of the cooler. 9950x3d I think is 170 to 230 and the cooler you've got can cool around 240ish TDP. So it's quite close. Honestly for 9950x and up I would probably try and get an AIO in 280mm preferably or 360mm if you have to.

Not sure if this is the right thread, but what would be the best solution to remote play from my desktop to my TV in the living room?
No way I'm paying some crazy amount for the discontinued Steam Link. Just need to have something that runs the steam link app or steam itself on 5G wifi.

>>106873601
>Which one should I get?
Between those two the bottom.
>Also what would you change?
The 7800X3D runs fine on air so no to pay extra for an AIO, see:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/25.html
Overpaying for PSU, RAM, & NVME. Cases is a little expensive too, but that's a personal choice.
Any specific features are looking for in your motherboard, because very often the more expensive boards having extra USB or PCIe slots is not something every user actually needs.
My recommended edits: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9jz8Dj
~£300 Saved.

Also why the 4090 (and what monitor are you using)? Have or gonna get on OLED?
If you plan to do a lot of AI stuff I guess a "budget" 5090 would be a good deal for the perf uplift (~32%) over the 4090 + extra VRAM:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYfrH/msi-ventus-3x-oc-geforce-rtx-5090-32-gb-video-card-geforce-rtx-5090-32g-ventus-3x-oc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA72xZmUSzc

Lol, glad I did not follow my impulse to get the RTX5070.

If you test long enough, the VRAM gets full, and in the case of BF6 the 8GB version becomes a choppy shit GPU.
You don't see that with minutes into the bench, which is why you don't see that reported often.
Those review guys just start the game, get 5 minutes at max of diddling around and call it a day.

12GB Vram is not enough, already in 2025, guess what will happen in 2026 and 2027?

>>106873672
You're probably better off asking in the stupid questions thread. What do you want to stream? For TV, movies and porn there's options. For gaming I don't have any idea. But a quick google search brought up this video and the Apollo program. Might be worth a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERC7UrkRL2c

I have an RTX 3060 12GB and a ryzen 5 3600. How are my specs for gaming in 2025/2026?

>>106873669
Thing is, I already have a gpu aio so that might turn into a mess. I should just build an actual watercooled pc one of these days.

>>106873706
the retards spamming that one beta benchmark are awful quiet now

>>106873699
Thanks bro that's a nice build! I'll use that instead of my list.
I want to do some AI stuff with LLM's, but I'm mainly thinking about gaming so 4090 and saving 300+ seems a bit better.
Definitely an OLED screen. I was thinking about an ultrawide from Dell 3440x1440.

I'm in a deeply troubling mood. Lost my job and I really want to burn money right now. That 9800X3D is looking mighty fine.

>>106873706
guess it doesn't scale well with more cores

>>106873834
>Thanks bro that's a nice build! I'll use that instead of my list.
No problem.
>I want to do some AI stuff with LLM's, but I'm mainly thinking about gaming so 4090 and saving 300+ seems a bit better.
Sound reasonable.
>Definitely an OLED screen. I was thinking about an ultrawide from Dell 3440x1440.
I caution against UWs in OLED because they get updated with the latest gen panels least frequently and their pixel density is poor which means heavy color fringing on text due to having non-striped-RGB subpixel layouts. I'd get a 32" or preferably 27" 4K OLED instead like this:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sj2j4D/msi-mpg-272urx-qd-oled-270-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-mpg-272urx-qd-oled
There will be 27" 5K models announced @ CES with availability in prob March/April as well if your display purchase is gonna be a big investment, but you may not want to wait that long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqhtvBFWoxY

>>106873835
>I'm in a deeply troubling mood.
>Lost my job
>I really want to burn money right now.
Maybe sleep on that decision for awhile?

>>106873777
You may be totally fine with your current cooler. My advice is to try it. If you are thermal throttling during high gaming or work loads then you can consider an AIO. Found a reddit thread with your cooler on a 9950x3d that was running at 87c. Although it's not really a big problem to hit those temps it would be better to consider if you can fit a 280mm AIO in your case in addition to your GPU AIO radiator. The cooler temps will improve performance and if you believe it, reduce the wear on your parts from heat. Obviously if you can't mount a 280mm just stick with your dual tower air cooler.
https://reddit.idevicehacked.com/r/buildapc/comments/1ldkw8f/9950x3d_very_hot_with_both_nhd15_and_phantom/

>>106873922
Already booked a trip to Poland, I'll see after that I guess.

>>106873839
The other guy on YT, forgot his name, tested it with a 16 core CPU and started by only enabling 2 cores.

6 core 12 threads is the baseline, unless they increase the players on a map, more gives you more frames but the lows are the same distance to the avg.

>>106873971
How can you forget Daniel Owen's name?

>>106873601
You can bump down to a RM1000 for your 4090 build, that's what I'm running with a 9800X3D and it only draws 750w in 3DMark. Personally, I would pick the top one because it's not a huge amount more money.

>>106873922
That's a nice panel. I've been itching to go back to ultrawide though. I may have to wait and see what the new panel prices are like.

Reposting from last bread in search of validation

I've got all the parts for my computer except the GPU. I don't really give a shit about AAAs, and I only made a new build so I could get a 7800x3d to run EU5 and other sims/systems games from my 9 year old dogshit bargain bin build. I also like to pump up the FPS to match my 1440p 180hz monitor in comp shooters.

Right now I'm leaning towards a cheapo 9060XT to go with that, considering GPU heavy games aren't really my thing. However, I am looking forward to true AAA slop paragon GTA6 that is several years out on PC presumably. Would it be worthwhile to eat the extra 300+ for a 9070XT hoping it would last me till then? Is my initial idea to just get by and save some some money by waiting for a new gen GPU that smokes the 9070 dumb? I am working on the unfounded assumption that next gen consoles are gonna have heftier GPUs and I'll regret going in on a higher end card now when the GPU heavy game I actually want to play comes out.

>>106874191
buying a gpu that will only adequately handle games out right now (9060xt) when you already picture a use-case for an upcoming AAA game, is really fucking dumb.

If you're gonna milk a pc for nearly a decade, wtf are you doing nickle and diming yourself with mediorce tech? you wanna buy cheap tech? do it every 3-4 years to stay up to date. If you're not gonna touch your rig for the next decade, go buy something GOOD. Why poorfag gripe over something you'll use constantly? Do you spend your extensive time on the computer in a plastic outdoor chair too?

is an NZXT C1200 Gold worth 120€? i see it being on a pretty huge sale and ive been thinking of upgrading from my 850w psu

>>106874220
>Why poorfag gripe over something you'll use constantly
I don't though, that's the point of the post
>If you're gonna milk a pc for nearly a decade
No, I'm gonna milk a PC for an estimated 3 years, as stated above
Are you ESL or something?

>>106874239
they have a solid reputation, and 1200watts is a good future-proof psu if you ever wanna paypig for a 90series or whatever frankenstein AMD may wanna trot out in future.

>>106874239
Eh not particularly and PSUs are not really something you "upgrade" from if your current one is delivering plenty of power.

>>106874269
>my 9 yo dogshit bargain bin build
i stopped reading there because your post is filled with useless blogposting. If thats what you milked once, you will probably wind up doing the same thing twice, don't care.

>>106874270
it seems to be quite a highly rated unit so might go for it
>>106874271
i know i know, but my 6950 NEEDS more power. plus i get to give my oldie to someone that might actually need it

>>106874303
>6950
i used to use a 6900xt before i fucked up the ram on it (entirely my own fault, not AMD's lol), an 850w is fine for it, even when OCing. Unless you got a bronze-tier or some shit.

>>106874280
>ESL can't handle 2 half-paragraphs of reading
tragic. It's my first build since I was 17 because I haven't had disposable income or gaming time since then, I haven't even been using it for 90% of the time since I've built it.

>>106874325
running it over 400w feels like pushing it a bit though for 850w

God this motherboard I got was such a mistake.

>>106874356
It's a power supply, either it supplies enough power when gaming under load or it doesn't. If it didn't, you'd see the entire system shutoff suddenly to some combination of OPP/OCP/OVP getting tripped.

>Build a PC
>Everything just works
>No crashes or errors
I think I need to do more tweaking to fix that.

fuck this retard

>>106873706
It's caused by a memory leak in the Overkill setting, which doesn't happen @ High or Ultra.
Same old story of game dev issue.

>>106874453
Devs are aware, and this affects cards with 16GB VRAM or more.
https://forums.ea.com/idea/battlefield-6-bug-reports-en/high-vram-usage-possible-memory-leak/12745368
https://x.com/BFBulletin/status/1977157949400527011

Leave it to HWUB viewers to make a VRAM FUD out of a game bug.

>>106871886 (OP)
The hell happened to RAM prices

>>106874481
how would memory leak only affect cards above a certain vram?
>>106874527
ai stuff uses a lot of vram, ddr4 no longer in production

>>106874537
>ai stuff uses a lot of ram*

>>106874537
>how would memory leak only affect cards above a certain vram?
The VRAM memory leak bug affects every card, including AMD's 16GB VRAM 9070 XT.
Hardware Downclocked Steve is impartial, doesn't do enough research regarding the state of the game, and jumps on the opportunity to cause VRAM FUD.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hbjjdb
Anything wrong with this?

>how would memory leak only affect cards above a certain vram?
The VRAM memory leak bug affects every card, including AMD's 16GB VRAM 9070 XT.
Hardware Downclocked Steve is biased, doesn't do enough research regarding the state of the game, and jumps on the opportunity to cause VRAM FUD.

>>106872131
ryzen + radeon only when you use linux, do not use said combo with windows. radeon doesn't match well with windows

>>106874568
Either get the Phantom Spirit (1 more heatpipe) or the Peerless Assassin V3 (includes newer fans).

>>106874653
>radeon doesn't match well with windows
Quit spouting this lie.

Are their cards as good as Nvidias currently? Debatable, certainly not at high end, but they run perfectly fine on windows.

>>106874191
If your goal is to pair something with the 7800x3d to just tide you over until the "several years out" release of gta 6 then yes a 9060 or a 5060TI 16gb will do more than fine.
Going by gta 5 timeline (not thats a lot to go by) it took gta 5 18 months to release on pc, given we are about 6 months from the gta 6 releas on consoles that puts it 2 years away (again bogus timeline bear with me).
I think these cards will do fine until then, they wont be powerhouses so that "like to pump up the FPS to match my 1440p 180hz monitor in comp shooters" might require some settings adjusting on modern titles.
In the end it will depend on what are your graphics tolerances, you know the 9070xt is the better card but if saving 300 now means getting a better gpu (or mobo/cpu) or whatever in the future then thats up to you.
Is hard to giving advice on money.

Please stop me from building Arrow Lake 265K PC

Tell me all the reasons it's a mistake

>>106874731
z890 mobo and >8000mhz ram are pretty expensive?

>>106874347
>he keeps blogposting after being called out on it
bruh

>>106874481
>Leave it to HWUB viewers to make a VRAM FUD out of a game bug.
considering that the frostbite engine/Battlefield games are supposed to be state of the art, VRAM leaks like this are soo far beneath everyones expectations of the studio that its an honest mistake to make.

>>106874731
>Tell me all the reasons it's a mistake

Requires expensive, fast RAM
Requires Ocing to get decent gaming performance
Runs hot
Bangs your mom (may or may not be a downside)

>>106874527
is this a bot post? i think i've been seeing this post at least once in every single general for weeks?

>buy a 14th gen because I'm a retard
>update bios so it doesn't catch fire
>now constant fan noise and coil whine
Honestly I think I might just take the loss and redo the entire build

>>106874731
It's right there >>106873815 , it runs games like a 14600K.
Tuned 265K can go faster, but you can say the same for everything else.
The good 2-DIMM boards aren't exactly cheap either.

>>106874731
Potential buyers should avoid purchasing a new PC with an Intel Arrow Lake 265K CPU due to reported performance issues, including underwhelming gaming capabilities and unresolved bugs that may affect overall functionality. Additionally, there are concerns about the reliability of Intel's recent CPU technology, which has led to recommendations against such purchases.

Reasons to Avoid the Intel Core Ultra 7 265K CPU
Gaming Performance Concerns
Inferior Gaming Performance: The Arrow Lake 265K is reported to have worse gaming performance compared to previous Intel generations and AMD's latest offerings.
Limited Upgrade Path: The LGA 1851 socket may only support one more generation of CPUs, limiting future upgrade options.
Technical Issues
Performance Bugs: There are known performance issues with the Arrow Lake series, which Intel is still addressing through updates.
Inconsistent Reviews: Gaming performance reviews have shown significant variation, indicating that the CPU may not perform reliably across different scenarios.
Value for Money
High Price for Low Value: The pricing of the Arrow Lake CPUs does not provide good value, especially when compared to AMD's Ryzen chips, which offer better performance for gaming.
Poor Resale Value: Due to the limited upgrade path and performance issues, resale value may decline quickly.
User Experience
Negative User Feedback: Many users express disappointment with the Arrow Lake series, suggesting that it may not meet expectations for gaming or productivity.
Brand Preference: If gaming is the primary use case, many users recommend sticking with AMD for better performance and reliability.
Overall Recommendation
Better Alternatives Available: For those focused on gaming or productivity, AMD's Ryzen series is currently seen as a more reliable and cost-effective choice.

>>106874753
>its an honest mistake to make.
It's called doing research before jumping to conclusions.
The memory leak has existed since the beta.

I just don't get why these RMe PSUs exist. I just had one with awful coil while, and I just got an RMx version in and there is NONE of that. What the actual fuck.

>>106874804
>I just don't get why these RMe PSUs exist
A cheaper price point?

I have an RMe 1000 and have 0 coil whine so likely just general variance in them. Could be mine is the older 2023 version too since I know they do revision 'updates'

>>106874731
Be a contrarian and go Intel.

>>106874770
That's what happens if you update the BIOS and leave the CPU AC/DC loadline at 1.1 mOhms, which (safely) overvolts the processor under high loads.
It's not for normies.

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103836394/#103837084
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106003612/#106011724
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103511413/#103511798

>>106874763
No I was being genuine, last time I tried to price out a PC earlier this was 32 gb ddr4 was like $60, today its double and I was like the fuck?

>>106874821
>32 gb ddr4 was like $60
No fucking way

>>106873706
HUB benchmarks are not trustworthy or repeatable at all he downclocks cards and makes other weird changes and settings always out of line with several other benchmarkers

>>106874825
my number may be off a bit but the increase to $100+ was enough to make me think what the hell happened. I'm just pricing out basic boy office PC components since current one can't run win 11

>>106873706
Even he can't repeat his runs, 7800X3D got 205fps then a week later 9800X3D gets 205fps and the 7800X3D along with everything else tanks.

>>106874855
>basic boy office PC components since current one can't run win 11
Then 16 should be fine if you are trying to save some $$$, but yeah pricing has gone up on that and nearly everything else
>>106874920
I am shocked it was that cheap for not ass spec RAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avjxqwlctds

This is all well and good steve but unless you are actually going to benchmark big games people want to play when they are released what's the point.

>>106874817
I've heard the Ryzens are hotter at baseline, is that true?

>>106874893
Wow that's ridiculous, I knew he sucked but not that much.

>>106874920
Oh I'm not crazy, RAM prices have become retarded again
>>106874938
It's DDR4 the price hikes now are still crazy

>>106874944
The compute chiplet has a higher heat density, but they're specced to continuously run at 95°C.
The IOD & interconnect are always utilized, so you get a bit more heat & power draw.
If you mainly game on that PC, Ryzen CPUs should have lower power draw & heat than Intel 14th gen CPUs.

>>106874920
Knew I shoulda got that 32gb back in feb...

another day that nvidia driver issues still happen on windows 11 and linux with no fix

>>106874722
Yeah it's pretty much just to get me back into modern gaming until something comes along that I actually want to look at in ultra settings.
>might require some settings adjusting on modern titles.
Fidelity doesn't really matter to me that much compared to resolution. New games look good even on lower settings. What's the deal with this FSR stuff? Does AI upscaling look as blurry and shitty while playing a game as I imagine it to be? Some people say it's a game changer that lets these midrange cards punch above their weight compared to getting a last gen card with better raw performance, and others say it's a total gimmick.
>Is hard to giving advice on money.
Understandable. I'm just a person who sucks at committing to a decision. +/-300 bucks in 3 years doesn't even really matter that much, I just hate buying things I won't use the full potential of. Maybe I'll just wait for black Friday and see what's up then. Thank you for humoring me, anon.

>>106874990
Another day where you cite schizo sources no one gives a shit about.

>>106874944
14th gen is easier to cool at the same power draw but that's because the cores are huge
11th gen was even easier, you could push 300W through an 11900K and it wouldn't care at all

Does the brand of ram really matter? I can see a Patriot Viper Venom 32x2 ram kit for a pretty cheap price overall

>>106875013
>What's the deal with this FSR stuff? Does AI upscaling look as blurry and shitty while playing a game as I imagine it to be?
It gets a bit uncanny if your rig is already struggling and you are looking for it.
If your machine can handle the game at a decent framerate and resolution already then it just makes it a bit more fluid and you wont really notice it.

>>106875056
Patriot Viper are usually among the cheapest kits and yet they have good reviews.
Most people tend to agree that ram brand doesn't matter until the very very high end

My Neighbour's WD Blue SA510 SSD gave out within a year, I bought a T500 1TB for him, it was cheaper than SN850x, GM7, GM7000 and 960 Legend. Did I do good? I installed Office and activated Office and Windows for him. I hope I don't become him tech support, but actually I don't mind, when I was a child, he built me my first PC. Also, when the fuck did the prices of gen 5 and gen 4 ssds become the same? WTF?

>>106875102
T500 is a fine PCIe Gen 4 SSD , nothing to worry about.
>Also, when the fuck did the prices of gen 5 and gen 4 ssds become the same?
Not necessarily a good thing, Gen 4 NVMe SSD prices have been climbing because NAND flash manufacturers made a concerted effort to raise prices.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/nand-and-dram-prices-spike-in-q42025
https://sourceability.com/post/memory-price-hikes-and-the-labor-crisis-reshape-supply-chains
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=252690

>>106875075
So i should be fine just getting a regular old 6400 cl32 kit no matter the brand? good to know

>>106872482
Now this is some good, classic bait, I unironically haven’t seen the human eye/60 fps meme since my days of /b/ back in like 2009.

If my PSU died, and I get a new one.. can I avoid changing out all the wires/connectors too or should I replace them. Like what are the chances that if the PSU died that it also affected the wires. The mobo connector is already out so I'll be replacing that too, but I don't really want to switch every single thing out.

>>106875142
as long as the speed and latency are what you need order by price and pick one of the chapest ones that still has a few good reviews
and thats usually patriot viper

>>106875165
No u retard u have to change the wires, there are different specs for each manufacturer and you can fry your shit with the wrong cables.

>>106875165
>can I avoid changing out all the wires/connectors too or should I replace them
You must replace the wires unless you buy the same exact unit (same revision). The pins are not standardized, and you might kill some PC components.

>>106875179
More specifically, the pinouts aren't standardized for the PSU end of the power cables.

>>106875102
>SA510
well shit, was considering one of those because it's one of the cheapest options

>>106875014
You pretend that Nvidia drivers are perfect in 2025?

>>106875188
Kind of goes without saying

>>106875014
Stupid Cunt.

>>106875191
Take the MX500 pill anon kun. https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.svg

>>106875191
You guys need to start checking the TBW endurance rating of the SSDs.
SSD is something you can carry over to a new build, but less so when you're buying one of these.
For comparison, a higher-end 2TB SSD usually has a 1,200 TBW endurance rating.

>>106874972
>>106875037
I only play 1440p games. I just want the quietest option.

>>106875196
>>106875202
You got NVIDIA drivers stuck in your head rent-free™.
That little pajeet disclaimer you posted didn't even specify NVIDIA driver issues.

>>106874688
go ahead fresh install windows and then install the latest radeon drivers and watch how your pc either bluescreens or crashes
nvidia having shit drivers don't remove the fact that amd also has shit drivers

>>106875199
>Kind of goes without saying
Given the amount of people that blow up their shit by using whatever EVGA cable they got off Amazon it clearly isnt

>>106875220
ryzen is also gonna ramp up your fan constantly, all modern processors do that
what are your specs? i would only really expect the 14900K and 14900KS to run hot with a decent cooler, even at stock
(and if you bought one of those without knowing what you're getting into then yeah you're kinda retarded)

>>106875220
9800X3D will be quieter under gaming loads, and the extra idle power draw won't matter wrt operating noise.

>>106875246
>go ahead fresh install windows and then install the latest radeon drivers and watch how your pc either bluescreens or crashes
I daily drove a RX 6950XT for the last 2+ years with the only driver issues being some funky crashes with War Thunder and a handful of real old titles like Darkest Hour or RO2

>>106875165
I'll say it again, throw out the old PSU and all the wires that came with it. Buy a new PSU and use the wires that came with it. DO NOT MIX AND MATCH.

>>106875264
no one was talking about your experience in some specific thing, stop trying to move goalposts you fucking retard

>>106875249
If you know enough about cables to know they’re different between PSUs, you can probably infer that the GPU end is the same since the PSU works with every GPU.

>>106875254
>>106875256
I'm using a phantom spirit for cooling. Honestly I might just downgrade to a 12th gen I5. My previous i5 was ancient and I never had any issues like this.

>>106875178
>>106875179
>>106875276
I'd be buying the exact same PSU, Corsair rm1000x, the best buy still has the exact one I purchased, the 2024 version

>>106875322
or go into the BIOS and fix the fan curve
literally all modern processors do that shit, they boost to max frequency as soon as you touch the mouse
i would expect 12th gen to do it as well

>>106875322
>$400 CPU
>$20 cooler
Hmmmm??

>>106875322
Which 14th gen CPU do you have?
You just have to change 3~4 BIOS settings to eliminate the overvolting issues.

>>106875348
Change them anyways, don’t risk them having changed their cables half way through a production run or something. Spend the extra 15-20 whatever minutes to do it right and not fuck yourself over.

>>106875352
so pair it with a noctua that cost 5x as much?

>>106871886 (OP)
>>MOTHERBOARD
>Avoid purchases for new builds
Very helpful anon. Thanks for contributing.

>>106875355
AC LL doesn't matter that much when only a few threads are active
it's just the usual "omg i clicked on a youtube video and now my processor is at 60 C" that you started seeing when zen 2 came out
motherboard manufacturers need to stop shipping default fan curves that run at 100% as soon as the processor hits 50 C

>>106875349
I'll look at the fan curve again. I set them all to silent but maybe I have to manually adjust.
>>106875355
14900k

>>106875322
I unironically think this is why the 12400 price is so inflated. It was just stable and worked, 6 cores no weird ecore shit or software sgit, no wild temps, idle as fuck, even I'm tempted to go back sometimes.

>>106875297
>no one was talking about your experience in some specific thing, stop trying to move goalposts you fucking retard
Youre the one moving goal posts you fucking retard.

The claim was Radeon doesnt work well with windows, which it in fact does. Go shill in r/nvidia you cunt

>>106875396
>14900k
lol ok i thought you had an i5
phantom spirit and 14900K isn't a great combo, it really needs an AIO

>>106875302
>If you know enough about cables to know they’re different between PSUs, you can probably infer that the GPU end is the same since the PSU works with every GPU.
>More specifically, the pinouts aren't standardized for the PSU end of the power cables.
The post was replying to someone stating the PSU ends were different and then clarifying. L2read replies

>>106875396
>14900k
dude

>>106875420
>>106875452
Yes I am dumb. If you guys had to recommend a 1700 slot cpu what would you suggest?

What are we thinking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDnXe6N8h_c

>>106875481
14600K
but since you already spent $500 on a 14900K you might as well just return everything and get a 9800X3D for the same price
that won't saturate your cooler (you will still need to set a silent fan curve manually)
if the return window is closed i would get a 360mm AIO to cool your i9 properly and then just cope with it until something substantially better comes out

>>106875481
just buy 420mm AIO bigger fans will be quieter

>>106875396
>>106875481
Return the board and CPU if you can, and get a Ryzen CPU.
14600K can easily be air-cooled and is a decent CPU if you can get it near $150.

The final choice is to go to the BIOS to undervolt your CPU and lower the CPU AC/DC loadline, but you still need an AIO for a 14900K.

>>106875534
>>106875552
>>106875561
Thanks guys. I underestimated how much things have changed in the decade+ since I build my previous PC. It was still using an i5 4670k.

>>106871886 (OP)
what resolution is good for a 9070xt

>>106875573
>i5 4670k.
Anon thats a Q2 2013 era part...
>>106875607
1440p

>>106875573
Yeah days a 212 Evo could cool an i7/i9 are long gone

Haven't had a problem with my 7500f till battlefield 6 where I can feel the game struggling a bit, not visually but the movement starts feeling heavy and my GPU usage starts hovering in the mid to low 90s instead of being at 97-99% with nvidia reflex on+boost enabled. I added +200mhz to the PBO curve and I'm getting around 5175mhz in game vs 5050mh z before. My issue is my PBO target is 75C and in-game its constantly at that temp so clocks start fluctuating up and down between 5050mhz and 5175mhz. I don't know if it's worth increasing the temp target to 85c to hit a more consistent 5250mhz while suffering from louder fans and a generally hotter PC.

>>106875611
darn i like having a big screen and tvs skip 2k and monitors of that resolution dont get very big
seems like i will have to stick to 1080p

>>106875533
It's interesting, if it finally results in people understanding why and what is causing all this microstutter maybe it can finally be eliminated.

>>106875637
Buy a 5090 it's the only GPU that will increase in value you will not lose money on it like every other GPU

>>106875631
Be aware that the game is extremely buggy atm, not just the VRAM memory leaks.
There's random CTD (AMD + Radeon systems also affected), it automatically enables frame generation from time to time, and DLSS breaks down after a round or two.

>>106875649
>it automatically enables frame generation from time to time,
LOL WHAT

>>106875647
i just boughted the 9070xt though...

>>106875649
Maybe that's why the game feels heavy for me. I have the steam framerate overlay enabled and sometimes it changes from "fps" to "FG" and I just thought it was a monitoring bug. Damn so it really was enabling framegen which made the game feel laggy as fuck. Haven't experienced the DLSS issues.

>>106875662
I'm not joking.
https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-technical-issues-en/frame-generation-issue/12734534

>>106875637
You can run 4k with it depending on the title using some upscaling, the 9070xt does fine with that just dont expect mind blowing FPS

>>106875417
>Youre the one moving goal posts you fucking retard.
wrong, you think your personal experiences automatically erases issues other people are having with radeon drivers on windows
you lack empathy which tells me you have severe autism and you have picked a computer part manufacturer as your whole personality

>>106875670
>forced frame generation
well that's certainly a new one along with seeing that other game that demanded ray tracing be on for the main menu to work

>>106875533
I love this kind of shit.
It proves I'm not completely insane when I can "feel" game runs like shit even if it renders at stable framerate.

>>106875671
Im fine if its around 60
i also dont play stuff like bl4 or black myth

>>106875702
It should do 4K60 on older titles, but if its some UE5 game with FSR4 you'll probably need to use it

>>106875680
cope, seethe, and most importantly dilate

>>106871886 (OP)
Pro tip to new PC builders, avoid radeon and ignore anything citing Hardware Unboxed or Techspot. They literally just make shit up and the 9070xt will be worse than a 5060 ti by 2029.

>>106875725
damn i fucked up

>>106875533
I hope they write the article on it, I'd much rather read this than listen at 0.75x speed because he's doing that fast talking. Better yet write up a real white paper not just call a video one.

>>106875561
>14600K can easily be air-cooled and is a decent CPU if you can get it near $150.
It can not unless you expect literally no full core workloads
>>106875573
Keep the i9 and just get an aio. Using an air cooler sucks ass with anything that's 6+ cores as soon as it actually has to do anything.

>106875725
Kill yourself

>>106875744
Return it and buy a 5070 or 5070ti while you still can

>>106875779
>Citing definitive conslop title.
Concession accepted.

>>106875794
I havent opened it
will newegg take it back?
im was waiting for for a higher watt psu to come before i put it in

Thoughts on the 9070 non xt? Found one at a good price

>106875794
>106875804
Kill yourself

Is 12400F really slow for browsing or does a low-end sata sdd fuck its shit up? I've not felt my PC being slow to use on either 7600 or 7900x. Just curious.

>>106875813
Fine if you found one at a good price, you might be able to flash an -XT vBIOS (software mod) to it to increase its power limit.

>>106875813
Only if its cheaper than a 5070. Otherwise just buy the XT model. No real reasons to consider a 9070 when 5070 is usually cheaper and has better tech or the 9070 XT which is usually barely more but performs much better.

>>106875813
Git it, swap the BIOS.

>>106875813
well I think it's pointless and shouldn't exist and it's been shown if you flash a 9070XT bios onto it removing the power limit you can get close enough performance to it.

>>106875819
This is what brain-damaged Retardeons do:
>Post Hardware Downclocked benchmarks
>Cherry picks console-optimized benchmarks
>Posts outdated issues/benchmarks

>>106875820
Might be the OS configuration or simply bloat.
Fresh Linux installation feels much snappier on a SATA SSD than old W10 installation on Gen4 NVME, using the same hardware.

>>106875829
The xt is not available locally lol

>>106875813
It'd have to be a really good price. Really good.

>>106875820
Probably the SSD because it shouldn't feel slow. I had win10 on a Samsung 850 evo with a 4790 and it was snappy as fuck even though the hardware was a decade old by the time I retired it. 850 evo was a good sata SSD for its day.

damn

>>106875868
Then just get the 5070 because, at least here where I am in Europe, its significantly cheaper than the 9070 and actually probably provides better price:performance. DLSS 4 and all that too, should be a fine experience. Otherwise wait till the XT comes in stock and get that instead. The 9070 non-XT basically only exists to upsell to the XT.

I wish both AyyMD and noVideo shill got some medical help.
Doubly so if it's the same person.

>>106875894
Typical Radeon shitposter, living in his little 2022 COD safe zone.

>>106875820
what SSD is it?

>>106875779
Lets look at a game people actually play on pc
>>106875812
Immediately send it back and get a refund.
>>106875813
Needs to be -$100 a 5070
>>106875905
We are the same person, I have severe untreated schizophrenia and am a threat to society at large

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

The nvidiot spammer is a disengious LARPing troll impersonating a dead schizo btw.

>>106875352
A dual tower phantom spirit would be fine for a 9800x3d. One of the many reasons AMD is king of the CPU game is that the cards don't require fancy shit to cool them and the spirit is a great cooler that will never die.
>>106875664
9070s are going to be worth absolutely nothing next year lol.

>>106875725
>the 9070xt will be worse than a 5060 ti by 2029
How so

so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of playing wuchang fallen feathers when my connector melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.

AMD has been making dGPUs that run COD better since 2019 (or even earlier), and most PC gamers don't give a shit about it.

>>106875997
Any pc gaymer that gives a shit about cod after cod4 is a spiritual consolefag

>>106875897
Here the 5070 is same price as the 9070

so done with this paste leaking out of my 5080 and all these fucking driver issues. i was in the middle of scrolling zachs tech turf instagram when my whole screen went static. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

I made every single brand warring and benchmark post in this thread btw, I have like 8 different split personalities and live in this general, I am single-handedly responsible for roughly 3/4 of all posts.
>>106875990
Heavy raytracing/pathtracing are going to just become increasingly common. Mike Cerny said he want's pt to be the focus on the next playstation. Currently AMD gpus cannot do heavy rt/pathtracing, even without a good denoiser/rr alternative they're way slower.

>>106876007
>One of the games radeon does super well in doesn't matter!!
>Why?! Because if my precious GeForce doesn't win the game sucks you stupid fucking AMchuD.
Kill yourself

simple and plain cases with good air cooling recommendations for a 9800x3d+5090 build?

>106876035
Kill yourself

>>106876039
it doesnt. you are a spiritual consolefag and you should go buy a playstation fucking retard casual

>>106876039
>One of the games radeon does super well in doesn't matter!!
It literally doesn't matter; that's partly why their market share is so terrible.
You know things were bad when HWUB Steve couldn't come up with any cope for RDNA3.

Buy Radeon for COD
Buy Radeon for Ratchet and Clank
Buy Radeon for Resident Evil 4

Get that market share number up so NVIDIA offers even better cards, KEK.

>>106875777
>It can not unless you expect literally no full core workloads
yes it can, the stock power limit is 180W which is easily handled by a decent air cooler
>>106875819
wow DX12 is buggy as hell on all GPUs
game issue
>>106876035
>I made every single brand warring and benchmark post in this thread btw, I have like 8 different split personalities and live in this general, I am single-handedly responsible for roughly 3/4 of all posts.
you dropped this, king

>106876046
>5090
You will burn in hellfire of your own creation you njudean pig

fuck

so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.

>>106876019
Personally if they're the same price I'd go for the 5070 because you kinda know what to expect with nvidia and it all just works. Amd has that upcoming ray reconstruction equivalent coming up and some other tech they're finally catching up to nvidia with, but who knows if itll be good.

Maybe flip a coin.

>>106876049
Trotting out the stale, outdated driver shitpost.

>>106876064
More Ryzen CPUs are getting cooked by ASRock boards than reports of 5090 power cables melting.

>>106876068
I remember that stream. It ended with speed pouring his giant two liter water bottle into his intel + Nvidia PC destroying it with sparks on screen being the last thing you could see before the stream turned off, and he posted the aftermath on his insta story, crazy nigger lmao. Next stream he started off happy as a clam saying he was trying all AMD now.

>>106871886 (OP)
What is a good idle cpu temp?
I want to make sure I put the thing together correctly.
I it goes from like 28 to 35 degrees.

>>106876122
As long as its not on fire and your pc is cool and silent it doesn't matter

>>106876122
Depends on the CPU.

>>106876122
Depends on the CPU.
But idle temps don't matter much, because you would rather have quiet system than slightly lower idle temps and 50dB fans.

>>106876087
>ASRock boards
Not a good time for us Asrock Sisters, I own two asscock boards and I would buy more if for the zen5 fuckery.

>>106876068
>>106876111
>I remember that stream
Schizo makes shit up again.
https://youtu.be/i9XGUhB3ICE?t=60

>Next stream he started off happy as a clam saying he was trying all AMD now.
Buy AMD & boost their market share. That will only motivate NVIDIA to sell better GeForce cards.

>>106876134
>>106876136
>>106876141
So what should it relatively be in a game?
I played bg3 for a bit and it was going from 55 to to mid 70s.

How risky is running a RTX 5070 and a R5 5600 on a Seasonic Core GM 650W?

>>106876166
No risk at all. 5070 caps out at around 250W. 5600 won't even reach 100W.

>>106876166
Don't know that specific psu model but in general 650w is totally fine for a 5070 + almost any processor

>>106876164
Its a i5-14600k btw.

Wow, I never knew Nvidia had this much exciting history...

>>106876122
>>106876164
Those idle & load temps are fine.

>>106876087
Melted cables aren't noticed until a long time later usually when they are changing out the GPU for a newer one

>>106876111
>he was trying all AMD now.
only sane nigger on planet earth award

>>106876164
Mid 70s is fine under load. If you're so worried about temps look into undervolting, both CPU and GPU. Same performance at lower wattage and subsequently lower temps. On ryzen you just set a negative pbo offset in the bios but I'm not sure about intel.

>>106876164
I don't see any issues with that.
14600k has 100 Celcius tjMax.
If you really want to see if your cooling is sufficient run FurMark along Prime95, that is the worst case scenario.
You can always change the power limit for the CPU if your motherboard defaults to unlimited TDP.

>>106876166
Undervolt your 5070 so it uses less power. It's fine how it is but you can give yourself extra headroom if you're really worried.

>>106876198
>>106876220
>>106876222
I was just worried as a bunch of thermal paste spurt out onto the cpu as I opened it and wiping it to get it off just made it worse so I just went with it.

>>106876209
People are still buying & using these 5090 because it won't happen to them™.

>>106876035
so i will simply turn off the path tracing option

>>106876266
You're already a certified second-class citizen.

>>106876266
You won't be able to, they're moving towards just doing path tracing to make development easier.

>>106876278
wow how do i cope with this bros ?!?!?!? i wont be able to see a graphical feature which i wont even be noticing !!!!!!!!!!

>>106876311
He's already coping; he's used to it.

>>106876295
according to what ? your brown fingers ?

>>106876266
>>106876311
RNDA4 vs Blackwell is going to pan out like RDNA1 vs Turing, and you're going to have to deal with that.
>>106876324
According to the jews

>>106876342
>According to the jews
Everyone knows that if you buy njudea you are supporting the satanic world order and child sacrifice. That is why Aryans only buy radeon

>>106876361
If Germans choose AMD
Im keeping my 9070xt.
Besides I dont want to bother in trying to ship it back.

>>106876361
>Nation of frugal, penny-pinchers choose Radeon
Good for you.

>>106876361
germoids are poor thirdworlders
of course they can only afford AMD trash

>>106876426
country who brought the world this?
https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug
and this
https://youtu.be/yx80Q-CVcvA
what crazy fantasy world are you living in?

Germans are disgusting retards and the woman are universally whores just like with slavs. Also they ruined the midwest, Mexicans of the 19th century

>>106876489
Don't act like everyone in Germany drives that car.
The fact that Germans buy more Radeon cards means they're accessible to the everyday German, not that AMG performance car.
Retardeon can't stop being a Retardeon.

>>106876503
I'm German and find this funny.

>>106876489
And don't act like Radeon GPUs are designed by white, German engineers.
Basically, stop being a Retardeon.

>upgraded my PC to a 9800X3D, 5070 Ti
>still using an old 1080p TN AOC monitor

I need two decent all-rounder 1440p monitors to use both for gayming and work/productivity bullshit. OLED's gonna get burn-in probably sooner rather than later, VA supposedly has insane smearing. I'm kind of wary of IPS panels too due to shitty contrast and backlighting. I also like getting decent framerates so 4k is probably not an option.

What's best to get considering this conundrum? I've been staring at rtings for the past hour and I don't see a good jack-of-all-trades one. I also don't want to get one regular and one OLED because I want to use both monitors at the same time for various bullshit

>>106876507
my whole point is that germans appreciate proper made stuff. they must know something if they're going with AMD

>>106876527
>What's best to get considering this conundrum?
OLED with a warranty. Don't believe me? You buy an OLED monitor and lets see if you send it back after a week.

>>106876531
>they must know something if they're going with AMD
that their bank accounts aren't big enough to by Nvidia
sucks to be poor

>>106876527
rtings is not going to call a single non-oled monitor good because they are all shit compared to oled

>>106876527
go watch monitors unboxed and no recent woled and VA monitors have less of those issues

>>106876531
>my whole point is that germans appreciate proper made stuff
LIke a 4090 & 5090, those are the AMG equivalent.
I bet German gamers own more 4090 & 5090 compared to the rest of Europe as a % of PC the gaming population

Do you recommend the B580? I'm considering it for video editing and some light 1440p gaming.

>>106876361
>buy a 9070xt in 2025
>greedy devfags will probably make path tracing an obligatory setting by 2030
>buy a new gpu in 2030
problem solved

Ignorant Retardeon thinks their card is the equivalent of a high-performance racing car.
Their fucking executive said they gave up on that market, lmao.

Is it impossible to make a high end pc that is quiet? Seems like no matter what it's going to be loud as fuck if you want top tier performance.

>>106876593
air? no
AIO? no
full custom loop
yeah

>>106876555
they're not falling for marketing nonsense, that's for sure. AMD is the smart buy. 5090 is picrel american nonsense. you never really *need* it, you just think it's cool to have it

>>106876527
What cooler are you using anon?

>>106876624
I got a Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, the temps are fine but the radiator fans are making this oscillating whiny sound at low RPM that drives me a bit crazy. I'm gonna replace the fans soon probably

>>106876602
Retardeon, stop acting like the 5090 didn't sell at all in Germany.
Germany has always had a significant number of PC gaming enthusiasts, and 5090 & 4090 sold just fine in that country.

>>106876644
they buy it to make fun of it lol >>106876064
it's poorly designed, with a single 12VHPWR connector, GPU you NEED to undervolt so it doesnt melt itself down.

>>106876523
my indian ex was giving me awesome blowjobs though

>>106876593
my pc is pretty damn quiet. 9800x3d + 7900xtx. i use all corsair and arctic fans.

>>106876673
>GPU you NEED to undervolt
just power limit it to 60% same shit.

>>106876685
What cooler? Are you using custom fan curves?

>>106876711
yeah 60% power limit but 100% the price. the average nvidiot buyer logic

>>106876673
>they buy it to make fun of it lol
Still safe enough for DeBauer and Thermal Grizzly to sell the Wire View peripheral under full (GPU repair/replacement) warranty.
They also spent their R&D resource to bring that 5090 water block to market.
DerBauer would refuse to sell any related products if the power connectors were too risky & overall bad for business.

>>106876537
How fast do they burn in if you just use them like a normal PC monitor and not just for media?

>>106876733
arctic liquid 360 / sapphire nitro
everything stays between 30-40% speed dont hear it

>>106876753
Like in a year

Can you guys rate my build?
https://pcbuilder.net/rigs/rygxlW/

>>106876820
0/10, Ryzen is better for people like you who don't even know whether their component list is okay.

>>106876820
presumably troll but not ruling out that you're just that retarded

>>106876820
lmao

>>106871918
Just get the g305.

damn, ID Cooling FROZN A720's fans are so goddamn loud at 100%. Turbine tier loud
would the fans mentioned in the OP be good replacements? Am looking specifically at the Momentums
alas, I'm delighted to see this air cooler handling a 9950X3D at full PBO

>>106876820
looks good to me bro
don't forget to share it on facebook

>>106876927
>>106876820
>Compatibility: No issues or incompatibilities found.

How can I troubleshoot coil whine? I don't know what component is the issue

>>106876922
Don't run the fans at 100%

>>106876922
I am not super impressed with my noctua fans if I'm honest.

>>106877005
Get a spectrum analyzer app on your phone

>>106877005
put a toilet paper tube next to your ear. im not joking.

>>106875607
720p

I have a lenovo legion s7 15ach6 from and old job, I have a better laptop too and also a PC. I want to sell it for a new GPU because I have a 6600 RTX that's weak for anything above 1080p gaming. What can I sell this laptop for or should I try to swap it? How would you go about this if you were me?

>>106877145
The laptop 3050/3060 laptop GPU is worse than the RX 6600 discrete video card you have.
Do some research and find a fair price for that laptop.
$400~500 shouldn't be too difficult given the specs.

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_S7_15ACH6/Lenovo_Legion_S7_15ACH6_Spec.pdf

I bought a 5080 and I haven't even installed it out of fear. I am weak.

>>106877020
fair. 100% isn't even remotely required if not running PBO and I definitely won't
>>106877029
how come?

damn, Amd cards are that bad?
and people in thread fall for their shilling and buy their gpus?

>>106877227
I know but I have a thinkpad p1 gen 7 which has a 4070 but it'd rather use my desktop.
But I don't want to max out my 650watt PSU. What would be a good upgrade?

>>106877257
I sold mines due to driver issues and it was past return date

damn, Nvidia cards are still that bad?
and people in thread fall for their shilling and buy their gpus?

>>106877359
I might sell mine. I haven't even opened the box it came in. I'm still using my old 2080 super.

>>106877337
Get a 5700X or a 5800XT CPU, and anything up to a 9070/XT or 5070/Ti is fine.
If you have a 1080p monitor, you can stop at the 9060 XT 16GB.

>>106877394
I've got a 4k monitor, and I thought my CPU was fine for a few more years...

Why do you not want to buy new motherboards?

>>106877440
why would I want to spend money on something if I do not need it

>>106877410
It's still serviceable.
Get the best GPU you can afford for 4K gaming.

>>106877440
They're called birthing person boards now bigot

>>106877487
>>106877487
>>106877487

>>106877459
But what if you need a new motherboard?

>>106877337
>max out my 650watt PSU
Most 650W PSUs will only have two 8-pin (6+2) PCIe power connectors for the video card.
Don't buy a card that require more than 2 of those cables and you'll be fine (usually 300~350W max).

>>106876577
6% market share
inferior fsr
no cuda
no optix
worse vr experience
terrible at blender
>wait for nvidia to release a new technology
>copy it wish.com worse version always

All of this for mere -30$ discount?
No wonder they are fucked

>>106871886 (OP)
I'm ready to upgrade my ancient PC, everything still works but the CPU (an i7 7700) is feeling a bit slow now.
I'm keeping my 3060ti, so what would be a good AMD mother/CPU combo to pair with that card? Anything modern would be an improvement over my old i7 I assume. I don't mind moving to DDR5 and/or buying a new power supply if needed. (Asking for AMD cause I tend to keep my builds for several years and I heard latest Intel gens are literally rusting away)
My use case is mostly gaming, I don't play the latest AAA stuff but I do want to fully utilize my 3060ti at 1080p without my CPU dragging it down. I also do light video/audio editing in 1080p, no 4k or HDR or anything like that.
Thanks anons.

Hey boys could you look at this for me https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wd2hb2

This is for music production / video editing
I use a lot of VST-s, plugins so I need a good CPU. I chose this one because on a youtube vid some producer was using some slightly worse model than this one and it worked great, there were no stutters even with a lot of instances of vsts. I plan to also play a game or two here and there.