Thread 106877130

I'm kind of regretting majoring in CS. Not because of the subject, it's been fairly interesting and engaging, but because of the industry. This is my last semester, and the combination of my peers at college and looking at the job market is making me want to pivot and go into something else. I also have a mathematics degree. What should I do?

>>106877130 (OP)
start a blog

>>106877130 (OP)
Americans will literally deport all of their smartest people back to China, leaving only the lead infested boomers, spics and gay zoomers.

>>106877130 (OP)
work at a hedge fund

>>106877147
>their

Fuck off first world shitter. Anything you do will work as long as you live in Canada, USA, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and South Korea. So what you should do is fuck off. Fuck this fucking bullshit world. Is this question a mockery?
>Oh no I have so much dilemma while living in heaven

>>106877149
Doing what? I took basically only pure math classes, seeing a lot more jobs requiring applied math or statistics is making me regret that decision a little bit.

>>106877180
they'll teach you dummy, no one is born knowing how to write trading algos. they are always willing to hire ppl with elevated math skills

>>106877236
Well that's what I thought the CS market would be and so I took OS and theory classes, and every software job wants hyperspecific experience for junior workers.

>>106877169
If it were heaven people like you wouldn't be there.

>>106877144
Not going to do that while I'm still in college, as I don't want to invite negative attention when I'm in such a hostile environment.

>>106877130 (OP)
>I also have a mathematics degree
Do this >>106877149 then write some philosophy and die alone and penniless

>>106877289
Fuck off bitch. You voted for them to come do all the menial jobs. Now you cry about a choice you made. I didn't choose to be born in a shithole. I have no chance. I can't dream. I'm just waiting for the day I'll die, which will be the happiest day of my life.

>>106877323
People don't "vote for" political change. Look into elite theory.

How do you manage to not study statistics in a math degree

>>106878023
I've done a couple classes on probability theory but the stats classes are either not rigorous enough or don't have good professors.

>>106877147
Interesting.
All of /g/‘s favorite tech is the stuff Boomers and Gen X created while the slop created by these chinks and jeets is considered rubbish.

Meanwhile, the most high tech stuff is created by white men for the MIC and you can’t see it because it is classified top secret.

>a fancy dinner
>at ippudo
sure buddy, sure

>>106878121
NOOO we NEED infinity immigrants

>SF
>dinner
>asians

I guarantee you that they're doing nothing important. The big swinging dicks working at national labs and pushing the envelope at top defense firms and doing actual cool shit, are white guys from state schools, and none of it is happening at SF or any other fag central poz city that only makes hookup apps.

>I also have a mathematics degree.
Just lean into that, it really doesn't matter. I did 6 years in the Navy and left an O-3 with a clearance and I think that helped more than my degree (also math) in getting a job afterwards, but just saying you have a math degree gives people a warm fuzzy that allows them to trust you with work you'll learn while doing.

>>106877130 (OP)
Rob a bank.

People who go to elite private schools are either rich or primarily career min maxers above all else. It’s been true for a generation.

>>106877130 (OP)
Either go into engineering or work as a quant.

>>106880952
>engineering
I'd need to study a lot of physics and go to grad school, no?
>quant
Do they go for people with ~3.5s and no exceptional experience?

>>106880967
>I'd need to study a lot of physics and go to grad school, no?

Depends on which type but each type of engineering can have their physical theories covered in a summer.

>Do they go for people with ~3.5s and no exceptional experience?
I genuinely don't know, but it would be a good idea to bring your coding skills up to snuff. I know that a lot of quants are very very good coders in addition to mathematicians.

>>106881002
>each type of engineering can have their physical theories covered in a summer.
Is that really true? Well I'm not sure I'm the most interested in
>it would be a good idea to bring your coding skills up to snuff
They aren't bad, but I'm much more experienced with low-level stuff. Not sure how that factors in

>>106880484
>white guys from state schools
Hey, that's me!
>but just saying you have a math degree gives people a warm fuzzy that allows them to trust you with work you'll learn while doing.
Nobody's really thought much of it in my job search so far. It's really frustrating. What do you work in now?

>>106877147
>Ivy League unis
>smartest and brightest
Anon... all these unis do is crank out brainwashed elitists who make garbage slop. Harvard is caught up in a Chinese spy scandal every other year. See >>106878121
Also it's known there's covert cheating rings being ran by foreigners at a lot of the unis.

>>106881101
These places went to shit 100 years ago when the Jews started taking them over. What a fucking shame

>>106877130 (OP)
Go with cloud computing. CS is oversaturated as shit.

>>106881206
>cloud computing
>not CS

>>106877130 (OP)
Welcome to graduating into a recession. Everything is shit right now. Take solace in the fact that you made a smart decision to go into something useful, and curse your luck that you did it right as the elites decided to yank the rug out from under not just you but every working person in the country.

>>106880484
Can confirm. When I go to Livermore, if we do go out to dinner, we go to BRENTWOOD, which is a podunk hilbilly town, and not to fagfrancisco.

Most of the time we're heading down from Los Alamos to Santa Fe to eat at Gabriels or to Chimayo to eat at Chimayo, and trying to stay as far away from California as possible

>>106881210
You know what I meant
It opens your options to more IT roles.

>>106881241
Yeah I'm definitely not gonna go into IT. It's even more jeeted than CS.

>>106881206
>>106881241
howdo you do this? this or devops or networking is more my style than swe, but i don't know how to get started. i have a cs degree

>>106877323
heh
what country?

>>106881101
sometimes I think you goyim deserve to be slaves

>>106877147
>deport all of their smartest people back to China
most Chinese that come to the west could get into Chinese universities. They are also loaded with money

bump for interest

>>106877292
>I'm still in college
>I'm in such a hostile environment.
Are you retarded?

>>106877236
>they'll teach you dummy, no one is born knowing how to write trading algos.
You won't grok the codebase on day one, but you're expected to understand how it works and find where it can be improved.

>>106877130 (OP)
Why do you even want to work in San Fagcisco or any of the other crime infested leftist costal cities? Why not look for a job in a smaller town in middle America where the cost of living is lower, the standard of living is higher, and the competition for jobs is much less fierce?

>>106877273
>every software job wants hyperspecific experience for junior workers.
There's no such thing as junior- or entry-level jobs anymore.

>>106877147
If chinks and poos really are smarter than us, then why does all the software made in the era after they took over the industry suck so much compared to software made during the white man era of 1980-2005?

>>106885511
>Why not look for a job in a smaller town in middle America where the cost of living is lower, the standard of living is higher, and the competition for jobs is much less fierce?
Several reasons:
- Hardly anything to do outside your house
- The dating scene is nonexistent (I'm not interested in meeting brain-dead women at "church").
- Spend most of your time driving.
- Pay is not great.
- Rural towns are often hives for retarded people.

>>106885552
Then I hope you enjoy living in your dystopian leftist shithole that's only going to keep getting more brown and more expensive to live in.

>>106885579
The area I'm in is mostly white and affordable. Keep coping.

>>106877130 (OP)
Always funny to see people pretending to be in high society in these times.
Social classes hardly matter now because of the internet.

>>106885552
with the dating pool I see online, at this point I’d rather meet retarded women at a church.

>>106877130 (OP)
It is 2025, the earliest you could have started was 2021. How could you possibly think this jeet infested, tech bubble was sustainable? You are a dumbass.

>>106877130 (OP)
go and make something on the side while you get a real job

Quite frankly, it's a terrible industry right now. Even if you get a job this is the culture you have to look forward to:

>infinity indians that clan up and conspire against you, generally autistic and hard to communicate/work with, so you will feel like an outsider with them
>tryhard autistic narcissitic asshole super dev types who will constantly try to one up you in programming knowledge
>managers and businessfags who have 0 understanding of how development works and will try to pile work on you

I recommend it to no one right now. Work from home is nice but nothing about this job does anything but frustrate me on a habitual basis, and I feel trapped.

>>106886214

cont.

without a doubt there was a time and a moment where this work was probably wonderful

back in the 90's/2000's it was common for companies to have a handful of devs doing lone wolf tooling work to help support the company. They were left to their own devices, considered wizards, and got to express full creative freedom building cool standalone scripts and apps. I got a brief taste of that early on, only time I've really enjoyed this shit work.

>>106877130 (OP)
put your math degree above your cs degree in your cv

>>106886214
Everything except the middle part with super devs is now a part of every single job available that can provide a decent middle class life. There's also a lot of other bullshit involved in those jobs too. If you get paid more than the median income, didn't get your job through nepotism, and are under 35 you are extremely lucky.

>>106877130 (OP)
If you learn to live off lentils you don't have to be subservient to some smelly kike

>>106877323
>>106877169
KEK brown brain sees a marble table and equates it with high standard of living. This is San Francisco we are talking about.

>>106881221
>CS
>Usefull
Tell me you're a kike without telling me your a kike.

>>106886214
>>106886227
I can tell from your pic that not only have you never worked in the "CS industry" (lol) but also that you've never worked any job, ever.

>>106877130 (OP)
Hey an MBA and be on the business cuck side of things?

>>106885532
They didn't took over until later 2010s and it already sucked. Also all of this is a result of management decisions, not engineers' incompetence.

>>106886975
>not engineers' incompetence.
Total cope. Kill yourself.

>>106886975
Gee I wonder who's making all those management decisions?

>>106887006
None of them were in power in 2005.

>>106886989
Not an argument.

>>106887017
2005 is around the time when jeets (and chinks to a lesser degree) stared coming here en masse. It was a slow and gradual shift but now 20 years later they've inserted themselves into positions of power everywhere in the tech industry and the products the quality of the products these companies produce is in the fucking dumpster.

>>106877130 (OP)
>all those people do nothing all day but make shitty gimmick products
>lol i went to stanfuuurd and hurrvurrrrd

>>106887073
>the products the quality of the products these companies produce is in the fucking dumpster.
It started years before they raised to power. They weren't the cause of it, they were the symptom. Enshitification happened because of investors pressuring companies to prioritize short term profits over user satisfaction. It's not a result of some conspiracy to replace smart engineers with retarded engineers who apparently can't write code without hostile always online, walled garden, vendor locking solutions. They are here because (((investors))) want profits which customers are no longer willing or able to provide => production cost must be lowered.

>>106885511
Should I just look for jobs in Iowa or Nebraska or something then?

>>106886214
What would you recommend instead? I'm trying to pivot. Considered going back to school (meh) or industrial engineering/maintenance. Maybe finance or accounting

>>106877169
Why not just copy what the first world has, and set it up in your home country? You can make your country better, and get rich by your country's standards while doing it. You could set up something as simple as basic services without a single challenging thought, just copy what developed countries already did, and be considered a champion. Living in a third world country is full of easy opportunities

Fellow zoomer graduate. Compared to OP my degree is even more useless because it's in philosophy with a minor in political science.
As others have said the market for fresh graduates is generally fucked. The way I see it you can either double down on education and try to specialize in something important (solar industry is booming and understaffed from what I've read) or try to find anything decent outside of your country.
I live in Germoney and my government will probably try to force me into fighting vladimirs in the near future, so honestly moving abroad seems inevitable anyway. Maybe I could teach chengs some German and Hegelian logic. We lived in a completely different world 5 years ago so who knows what the future holds.

>>106888909
>Compared to OP my degree is even more useless because it's in philosophy with a minor in political science.
at least you know the meaning of life while us csfags think about heaps and stacks

>>106888909
I will help you get to America if you bring a woman with you for me

come back stronger

>>106888813
Third world countries are usually third world because they're extremely low trust and anyone who visibly gets ahead gets robbed or extorted.