Thread 106878522

Why aren't self-driving cars a thing yet?

because they have to share the road with retarded meatbags

if every vehicle on the road was in the same botnet and automated it wouldnt be an issue and they would be ubiquitous but retards want 'autonomy' despite being literally braindead fucks that deserve total genocide

>>106878531
They have to interact with retarded pedestrians, with roadwork, poor signage, etc. The other cars are not really an issue, they're quite easy to see and predict.

>>106878531
Based fuck the goyim am I right brother

>>106878572
roadwork can be botnetted and pedestrians can be sidelined

>>106878579
The jews are right about goyim but ultimately fall under the retarded meatbag category also

>>106878572
>poor signage
signage literally only exists to convey information to the eyes of human drivers
...why would a self driving car require signage?

>>106878583
In theory sure but that's a very different sell from "just make all the cars ai"

>>106878613
whether it's signage or some teletransmitted thing, it still needs to be created and updated by somebody. If it's created poorly, or not updated when the facts on the ground change, then either the ai needs to be intelligent enough to deal with that, or people will die.

>>106878613
>put up signs saying road ahead is partially closed due to accident/road works/ect
plenty of reasons for temporary signage that ai would need to be able to identify and navigate

>>106878522 (OP)
Because they focused on city driving first instead of motorway driving.
Motorways are much simpler and you can easily equip them with beacons to aid automated steering.
It also makes more sense to automate the long journeys on the motorway instead of the short drives to and from the motorway.
But sadly people like Musk are retarded.

>>106878765
you just close the road on the api or whatever the fuck and the cars will avoid it and reroute automatically its not rocket science

stop thinking like a stupid fucking meatbag

>>106878809
>forget to update the api
>car drives right into an open gasworks pit

>>106878740
the cars wouldnt even have to be ai they just have to be all networked together and literally if else would suffice with a moderate amount of processing power

>>106878818
>forget
i told you to stop thinking like a meatbag

>>106878846
>api fails to connect to cloud servers
>doesn't update

>>106878823
Yeah if you were fine with them crashing and people dying as soon as something moderately unexpected happened. You could get to probably 99.9% reliability without any ai. That's shit. The last .1% is the stuff that's impossible for self driving cars currently, you haven't really solved anything.

>>106878854
Obviously if a heartbeat connection fails and the car can't phone home within milliseconds then the car will move to the side and shut itself down immediately and the master server will notice a missed heartbeat and dispatch reclaimers. It's not rocket science, this is one of the most basic network programming concepts

>>106878856
How would they crash when they are all working in tandem together within safety margins?

>>106878910
... because something unexpected happened? A tree fell, something fell off a truck, the transponder on one of the cars broke and it's now invisible to all the other cars, etc.

>>106878945
That's what the safety margins are for. Spacing, speed limits, etc. If a car drops off the network then its local fallbacks will kick in, and the master server will be easily extrapolate its last known location with those local fallbacks to orchestrate recovery vectors. There would of course be a problems if localiized network failure + brake failure + accelerator failure all at once, and then you would need AI in that case I guess, but the odds of that occuring would still offset the colossal meatbag failure rate involving even working machines with no faults.

Ideally we wouldn't even have 'cars' in such a scenario though, and everything would be trams on rails or something

>>106878522 (OP)
They are, I see them all the time

>>106878522 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbChAXbRz_w

They're a thing if you either own or lease a Tesla. Or if you're in select few cities where Waymo exists.

>>106878531
You'll have to pry the keys for my V8 out of my cold dead hands. Step up bitch nigger, if you've got the balls

>>106879044
>If a car drops off the network then its local fallbacks will kick in
... meaning ai. The point of this rigamarole is to get away from needing ai, because current ai isn't good enough. Dealing with other cars on the road is not the hard problem for modern ai, so eliminating it as an issue doesn't actually gain you anything.

>>106879093
even rudimentary early 2000s video game ai which is basically just if else would be good enough for that honestly

>>106879075
And has been for few years. Depending on the definition of self driving.

Highway driving had been solved for nearly a decade now by Tesla. City driving had been solved with V13. Parking had been solved with current V14. So we're already here.

>>106879104
No it wouldn't lol. and you didn't address any of the other issues i mentioned, all of which also need ai, of more complexity than you apparently can understand.

>>106879124
You don't need AI to change lanes and stop dude

>>106879145
This discussion is clearly happening well above the level of your comprehension, so I think it would be smart to end it here.

>>106879170
>He thinks he needs AI to change lanes and stop
grim

wouldn't have to go through all this if we had just stuck with trains

>>106879300
Too many niggers and non-whites for that to be viable.

>>106879406
just have poverty trains and country club trains

>>106879075
damn this is amazing

>>106878522 (OP)
Corporations haven't figured out a way to get everyone to throw away their personal vehicles infavor of weekly Uber subscriptions with varying levels of priority driving, lowest starting at $59.99 a week for unlimited* inner-city transportation.

*dependent on city size and local gas pricing

>>106879406
But why is Mississsippi not dark red then? There's tons of black people there.

>>106878531
How will you deal with an inevitable deadlock?

>>106878583
Deer?

>>106881824
>Hot wire the vehicle
>Crash vehicle
>Blame vehicle company for failing to prevent you from hotwiring it in the first place
>Win court case

>>106882542
>press pedal on car while self driving
>car crashes into people
>they sue the car company for letting people press the pedal
Tesla case.
Now we wait for
>gov bans manual driving

>>106878572
I rode in a Waymo when I visited SF this year, and an asian lady ran out in the street in front of it while it was turning. It handled it in a way that was not scary, better than I as a human probably would have handled it, and we didn't hit her. I don't think pedestrians are the issue

>>106878531
so it's never happening

>>106878522 (OP)
ppl don t want to die.

>>106878522 (OP)
My dream is to have a self driving RV
It can drive me around while I sleep

>>106878572
Pedestrians should reserve the right to shoot drivers who act dumb, honestly. Fucking dickheads behind a wheel are a dime a dozen.

>>106878522 (OP)
Because nothing ever happens

>>106878522 (OP)
>automated corrections
I still prefer to do them manually.

>>106878522 (OP)
>roads are shit
>other drivers are shit
>deer exist, roads are often blocked by shit falling off illegals' work trucks
If only there was a solution, like a RAIL that you could put in the ground that would guide the vehicle as it moves

>>106885420
forgot
>auto manufacturers are too cheap and retarded to make self driving that actually works

>>106882581
Protip: waymo uses ai

>>106884581
So true

Personal cars are inefficient shit.
Imagining moving 4000 pounds just to carry a 150 pound person (or 300 pound American)

>>106885873
Yes, but teleportation is hard to master, a little mistake and you end up in a parallel universe.

>>106881836
fenced

>>106879406
Alaska also appears to be dark. A state well know for its black community.

>>106878522 (OP)
>Why aren't self-driving cars a thing yet?
because most governments have safety standards

don't worry trump is working on removing all government safety regulations holding back companies

what could go wrong

>>106878522 (OP)
We don't even have self-driving trains yet. Why is that? Trains are literally on rails and only interact with other trains on time tables. What's the problem here?

>>106891055
>because most governments have safety standards
And yet asian women are still allowed to drive.