Thread 106914679

>2032
I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-10/windows-10-is-officially-dead

>>106914679 (OP)
it's been good (or at least better than Windows) for over a decade

>>106914694
>it's been good (or at least better than Windows) for over a decade
keep dreaming, anon

>>106914679 (OP)
what's wrong with linux now

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
hell no, it will become even more unusable commiepedotroon cesspool. They VILL force you to use immutable distros, flathub, connect to the internet to install every minor thing and suck tranny CoC(k)

>>106915022
constructive, i'll get some air freshener then.

>>106914679 (OP)
For a desktop-oriented OS that isn't some flavor of Windows, the reasonable choice would be Haiku. Troonix is dead on the water.

>>106914988
Gaming is being controlled by Valve Corporation through lies. Their so called Proton isn’t open source and requires libraries that aren’t on Github or anywhere. You are forced to install Steam and make an account to use Proton.

Blender 5.0 still heavy relies on nodes, no one wants more nonsense nodes rules. The developers and the foundation are really only forcing on profit. Their tax report shows they are earning money outside their goalposts for creating a better product.

GIMP is good but still not professional enough for better results. People are still waiting for Affinity to create a Linux platform so that people can create professional content.

Lastly, Linux operating system developers/admin are still refusing to implement a universal package for Linux. They still refuse to implement features found in Apple to stop spyware like Steam. Bloatware is being implemented. KDE sold their OS to Valve Corporation for profit. ETC.

Ya it’s pretty bad.

>>106914679 (OP)
Linux is already good

>for ATM machines
Good luck with that, LMAO

>>106914679 (OP)
>7 years
Google will own the Linux space by then with their distro.

>>106914679 (OP)
>Mainstream tech media reports on it
Pack it up boys, it'll be dead now.

>>106914679 (OP)
You will cuck out to the next windows version, all windows cuck will.

please tell me why would you need updates from microshit

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
they still have like zero software and pretend they have plenty, they literally use false adverting by telling people they can do gaming on linux, while they never mention other things. I honestly wish people started gaslight linuxfags for telling everyone you can play games on it, companies should make their anti cheat more agressive so linuxtranies won't be able to play their gayms

>>106915119
>You are forced to install steam and make an account to use proton
Wrong, you fucking retard
https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/umu-launcher

People think the problem is security updates, when security is the least of your problems. The actual problem is which browsers and programs continue to support 10, and which will drop it for dubious reasons despite 11 just being a 10 reskin.

>>106915119
literally enough to mention that it rely on shitty emulation software, it has no;
affinity, clip paint, photoshop
toonboom is a fucking mess, they have package installer but to install it you must do a mental gymnastic xDDD

fuck linux in general, fucking garbage

>>106915244
dude...don't know how to tell you, but by the time people will drop windows10, we will have windows12 or something without windows 11 flaws, they literally do this shit since vista, it's called beta testing

>>106915134
>Mainstream tech media
What year is it? People still read these enough to be mainstream?

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
It already is.
Stop being a faggot.

>>106915169
>please tell me why would you need updates from microshit
Most people on /g/ use Windows and download updates.

>>106915119
You can use proton without steam

>>106915127
OP's gayming rig is a kiosk.

>>106914679 (OP)
>article by Real Horny

>windows 10 support ends
>literally the next day my laptop starts randomly showing lines across the screen for a few seconds when i turn it on

>>106915260
>we will have windows12 or something without windows 11 flaws
No, we will still have Copilot and ads just like Windows 11 had telemetry and ads from Windows 10.

>>106915119
>GIMP is good
Stopped reading there.

>>106915241
NTA but umu-proton is built by pulling proton versions from Valve and applying a path to them
So you're a retard

>>106916187
>windows 10 support ends
>literally nothing will ever happen because I've autistically removed as much MS shit as possible and use a block-all external firewall

>>106914679 (OP)
already is good, you just need to find the right distro for you. dont listen to the mainstream telling you ubuntu or mint, try them all

>>106917888
patch*

>>106914679 (OP)
>yea bro... linux will be good by 2010... trust the plan... oh you mean 2015? Gentoo will have 99% market share by 2020... nah bro, after Covid I am sure the sheeple will want to move away from the botnet, just give it to 2025 for PopOS to be the dominant force on Desktop....
Linux is either already usable for you or is trash depending on your usecase. Nothing will change in the next 20 years in this regard.
As for normies... no amount of pain will be enough. They will install Windows 12 AI digital ID edition and they will suffer as they should.

>>106915447
>>106915127
I could see ATMs and Kiosks being still on XP lol. Linux can win there, but it still competed with DOS

>>106915119
>GIMP is good
Who hurt you ?

>>106918216
the day jeetdowns becomes subscription payment based is the day I main debian/mint/ubuntu

>>106918252
You will just pirate the unsubsciption version..... nothing ever happens. Not to mention that Windows 10 still works. I updated my Windows 10 last in 2019. Even have a lot of posts on desuarchive about how I updated last in 2019. Nothing ever happened because i did not update for 6 years, and if i can not update for 6 years, i can not update for 12...18..1000. Windows is just done and Linux is in a really shitty position if it cannot surpass an OS that no longer improves.

>>106918290
I can no longer trust cracked windows

>>106918309
I first installed windows 95 on my PC back in 98 and ever since then I have have cracked XP, Windows 7, 8 and 10. As a Bulgarian I know that maybe I am joining a russian botnet by installing a cracked Windows but this means that I support the Russian millitary and Russian hackers. So of course I continue to do it.

You either join the American LGTB botnet or the Vatnik botnet. I choose the Red army.

>>106918332
well memed anon, well memed, just hope you don't use gmail or credit card online

It seems that LTSC received 21H2 Today for extra compatibility

>>106918339
>gmail
as if protonmail is better... i mean i can make a bajjilion protonmails for games and shit with no phone number but all mail providers give copy of all mail they send/receive to the NSA or other glow in the darks
>credit card online
If they make digital ID happen I will have to move to crypto, but for now I am forced to.

As for hackers gaining access to my gmail - i do not care they can have it. My credit card needs agreement on my phone for any transaction so even if they have all the data on it, they still will need access to my phone. Also I can make transaction chargebacks if any transaction happens without my consent.

Linux is slipping back from beta to alpha. It becomes less compatible with new hardware every year. It's likely only niche corporate variants like SteamOS will be used, unless they upgrade from Linux to something else.

>>106918375
I better get that 11 license real quick, I don't like the chances

>>106918651
If you have W10 key then it will work with W11.

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
no but windows will be so much worse that linux will be good in comparison

>>106918666
I have it cracked I don't even know how, so now I'll get a cheapo license for 11 for me an my family

>>106918699
allkeyshop

>>106918699
>paying to MS...
you must be trolling.

>>106918703
thx brub

>>106918728
a license is pocket change, and I sure as hell don't want my pc on the botnet list

>>106914679 (OP)
>install fedora
>enable rpm fusion for proprietary shit like drivers and video codecs
>everything just works (tm)
unless you play online games switching to linux is unexpectedly painless
t. bounced off of linux twice in the past, possibly because I tried memeshit that is mint

>>106918740
ok you are trolling. if you were not you would know that installing windows is itself an act of enrolling in a botnet.

>>106918752
you're not wrong, but I'd rather be on MS botnet than on legit hackers one, it's a matter of choice

>>106914679 (OP)
>Linux MUST become good!1 This is its sole purpose of existence!
no

windows 11 iot ltsc + startallback

>>106918964
>windows 11
no

>>106918226
As a fact they are, I have seen them running XP, 7, WINCE 6/7, but I have yet to come across ones that are running anything new.

>>106915119
What do steam, blender, gimp and affinity have to do with Linux quality?

>>106919367
This might surprise you but people mostly care about the software that runs on the OS, not the OS itself.

>>106919367
he's using "linux" in the typical sense, which is "gnu (or similar)/linux ecosystem"
like it or not, "linux" can refer to more than just the kernel (linux proper). you'd have to complain to the concept of language to argue against it

>>106915119
>Their so called Proton isn’t open source
the only part of proton that isn't is the steam api, which is an optional component used for steam integration.
>You are forced to install Steam and make an account to use Proton.
incorrect. you can use proton without steam, it will just (naturally) not include steam integration

>>106914679 (OP)
What software doesn't work on 10 IoT LTSC?

>>106914679 (OP)
What would you call Good, anon? Real question, as I may be able to point you to a distro for your use case.

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
If you have an integrated GPU and dedicate your actual GPU to a virtual machine and run Windows under it then sure, it could be good, but at that point that's just using windows with extra steps.

>>106919527
i'm not personally aware of anything that requires 11 /yet/, but you can be assured there will be some before 2032 rolls around
like, win10 ltsb 2016 is still in service, but there's a bunch of programs that won't run on it already, needing a newer version of windows 10. it will happen to the last version of 10, just you wait.

>>106915195
I've been able to play all of my games on Linux at least.

Which ones haven't worked for you?

>>106918252
Anon, I...

>>106918699
This is selling you and your family's data to Microsoft.

>>106919791
Don't care

>>106919838
Fair.
As long as you are aware, many are not.

Windows 10 just had a free security update that they said that they were all done doing on the 14th.

>>106914679 (OP)
This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.

https://atlasos.net/

>>106920972
Hey why do you keep reposting this?

>>106921057
he's getting paid to shill his shitty spyware

>>106919605
Wifi 7

>>106914679 (OP)
Linux has gotten a lot better, but it's still not ready for mass adoption. The problem with linux distributions aimed at new users is that it pretends to be easy but they still make it really easy to wreck your computer even without touching the terminal. And that's not counting all the tiny bugs/annoyances that eventually pile up. I'm not sure if that will change, but at least wayland problems will be gone by that time, hopefully.

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
Considering they keep shoving more Rust code into it and kicking out promising filesystems it's going to be in a pretty sad state in 2032.

>>106914679 (OP)
Fuck linux, the file system will always suck. Linux is fundamentally retarded. If they can "fix" it by ignoring the cries of Torvald and go completely independent to make it truly mimic windows in every possible way, then "linux" would finally be good.
We need a true separate from microsoft "windows distro". It's likely going to need to be built from the ground up, similar to the failed project "ReactOS".

Pic related, literally just updated on windows 10 iot ltsc. To all you naysayers who were saying the "end of life" message we all got wasn't a glitch, this is for you.

>>106914679 (OP)
What even if your standard at this point? Do you just want it to look exactly like Windows? Because I think they've made a DE for that.
I legit don't get why people see issues with Linux still. It's always the same Yank culture war bullshit about trannies and stuff too.

>>106915119
You forgot DAWs and nvidia drivers

>>106922380
I can tell that you never actually go into your file explorer much at all. Funny thing about modern linux, the direction it's going you have far LESS control than windows unless you are part of the 1% of linux users that truly understands the syntax.
Tell me right now what folder three of your most used programs are in. Trick question, you don't know. You click the start bar after using a packet manager that did everything for you and installed your shit into a million different shared system folders, all you see is an icon. You never even picked where to install your shit.

That is retarded. Linux desktop is becoming like phone use.

>>106922489
not him but linux has had the same layout for many years.

bin for binaries, libs for libraries and etc for system-wide config files.
sbin for binaries to be run by root only.
and a bunch of more.
none of this has changed.
yes, google cooks their own shit with android where the kernel stays linux but much of the other stuff is their custom made stuff.

if you want to know where your stuff is run from, pull up $PATH and see where the searched paths are then do whereis on something to know where that something is, it searches through those paths.

if this sounds complicated, no one really cares unfortunately because you either run gnome or kde and don't have to bother with this stuff or you use the command line more often than not and you are expected to know this.
either way you can use linux and do what you need to do with it.
an OS is made for running programs and stay out of the way. as long as your programs work efficiently thats most of the job done as far as systems go.

if the filesystem layout is bothering you, then learn it its not that complicated. you're just used to windows everything being like you already know it.
my most recent windows version on one of the computers is 7 so if i went now to windows 11, i would probably feel just as lost as you are in linux.

i remember searching for stuff regarding how to do some more advanced stuff with windows, mostly just lower level administration.
needless to say, things are not exactly clear at first.

>>106922489
just call it familiarity bias

>>106915119
>People are still waiting for Affinity to create a Linux platform so that people can create professional content.
Considering they're about to announce a switch to a subscription based model I'd hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up faster.

>>106914679 (OP)
Hey OP, did you know that updates break systems, cause random driver issues, re-enable things that took you hours to sift through and disable, install new adware features that you never asked for, clog up your system directory with garbage which takes up gigabyte of storage, causes blue screens and rests your system if it runs into an unknown problem? That's why I disable updoots and cripple the functionality all together for a piece of mind. Recieving no updates from microshaft is a blessing. Finally a non beta release which just werks.

>>106923202
continued
So why would I update to an operating system that constantly connects to microhaft for updates? Why would I risk my finely tunes system to get rekt by some windows update and undo all the things I've cherry picked? Updates provide no benefit for non-corpofaggot system. Just like antivirus software, it is unnecessary garbage designed to snoop on every file that you execute and open, slowing down every operating and process. Fuck that. A good firewall and some common sense is all you need.

>>106923033
>my most recent windows version on one of the computers is 7 so if i went now to windows 11, i would probably feel just as lost as you are in linux.

No. Windows hasn't fundamentally changed since 95, and that was largely based off of DOS which was more simplified but very similar, and DOS came from CP/M made by Gary Kildall, the guy who pioneered microcomputing and made it so you could properly interface with early microchips like the 8008. If you can use windows 95, you can use windows 11. They annoyingly change how to access certain settings and shit but it's still windows 95.
My problem with windows 11 is that microsoft is GOING to nuke local accounts entirely, there won't be a workaround because it's simply not going to exist in the code one day. That and the added telemetry to what windows 10 already had which was already too much. It's ogre. Hoping for a windows clone before 2032. Maybe some people who actually know what they're doing can take ownership of ReactOS.

>>106915119
there are plenty of valid complaints you could have about the Linux ecosystem yet you picked the 4 most nonsensically retarded ones

>>106914679 (OP)
depends on if rootkit anti-cheats fall out of favor and if the creative software industry is more supportive by then, right now those are the most common and valid complaints

the package war shit flinging and github tranny shrieking will work itself out and that doesn't really impact the average non-mentally-ill user anyway

The amount of anons I see asking how to activate windows is fucking grim. Do we even share the same board?

>>106924524
Well there really aren't enough people just straightforwardly telling people it's on massgrave.

>>106924524
Probably tourists. At least I'd hope so.

>>106924711
are there not? also, we have the general for that
>>106924747
>tourists

>>106924827
What's happening is that every youtube video on the subject has people in comments screaming "IOT ENTERPRISE LTSC" with no further explanation. They come here looking for answers. They haven't found the general.

>>106914679 (OP)
No. Desktop Linux will not be good in 6 years.

>>106914679 (OP)
>I'm sure Linux will be good by then, right?
If you don't think it's good enough right now, you'll never think it's good enough. Either stick to Windows or buy a Mac (LOL!)
>>106915119
>Proton isn’t open source and requires libraries that aren’t on Github or anywhere. You are forced to install Steam and make an account to use Proton.
This is a complete fabrication by (You). If you truly believe this, could you explain how various active forks of Proton can even exist?
You can use Proton outside of Steam just fine. Lutris, Bottles, Faugus Launcher (UMU-Launcher) all support using Proton perfectly fine...

>>106918216
>Linux is either already usable for you or is trash depending on your intelligence
FTFY.
Only retards think Linux is unusable.
When Terry Davis spoke of Bill Gates having a herd of nigger cattle, he was referring to Windows users.