Thread 106918124

>/g/ says Qt is slow and shitty
>yet /g/ also says KDE is fast and good despite being Qt-based
How do you explain this, /g/?
Is KDE shit or not?

KDE is good because its the most feature complete windows replacement DE

>>106918124 (OP)
>KDE
>Fast
On what planet?

qt is the only decent cross-platform GUI toolkit for desktop there is

>>106918211
>flutter blocks ur path

>>106918124 (OP)
It's simple.
Kfags are liars. Filthy liars.

>>106918145
krashes, made in india

>>106918124 (OP)
It is slow and shitty to develop/work with it unless you're building a massive project, like KDE.

>>106918320
Post beef.

>>106918370
"post beef saar because we are not allowed to post it"

>>106918378
"saar the beef saar post the beef saar"

>>106918378
Where's your bloody beef, cunt?

>>106918402
"the beef saar you are not allowed to eat beef saar, this is kde.in saar no beef"

>>106918124 (OP)
>also says KDE is fast and good
No one said that, if anything people complain that KDE plasma is bloated. I remember they promised that Plasma 6 will be better optimized but when i updated ram usage went up for no reason at all. So fuck them im now on GTK.

>>106918402
this is goyslop not beef

>>106918310
youre moms pussy flutters around my cock if you get what i mean

>>106918124 (OP)
only dumb niggers say Qt is slow and shitty.
it's an excellent framework whose only downside is the continued use of non-std types because of legacy; and even then it's fairly simple to cast back and forth.

>>106918427
>if anything people complain that KDE plasma is bloated
nope, /g/ always tells me KDE is lightweight now.

>>106918124 (OP)
KDE is good, but sometimes buggy and many great apps are gtk4 and they look like shit on a KDE desktop.

>>106918124 (OP)
kde is the only feature-full point-&-click desktop currently for linux systems.
kde is for normal people
gnome is for gnome fanboys and they have less than half of all the features kde has.

>>106918514
>it's an excellent framework
are qtards unable to stop lying? this shitty "gui" framework literally has websockets built-in, it's bloated to the core, it's not a gui framework its a platform framework

>>106918628
everything looks like shit on KDE, even its own apps that have 4 different frameworks and styles. Dolphin uses qtwidgets, Discover uses kirigami

>>106918645
>kde is for normal people
indians*

>>106918696
Post beef.

>>106918680
many would disagree with it being shitty

>https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/List_of_Qt_Applications

>>106918700
Post location.

>>106918719
>This means all programs are non-GTK3, non-GTK2, and non-KDE based.
>falkon
>non-KDE based
another qtard lying on a wiki

test

>>106918320
>made in india
Does KDE look like Windows because it is made by Indians?

>>106918753
why are you retarded?
i'm talking about apps using qt.

more and more apps use qt because it has actual features they can use and make a good gui program and not have to re-invent half of the stuff

>>106918760
this is exactly what the kde indians should be doing on their krashware
>>106918783
>more and more apps use qt
460 libadwaita apps, not even just GTK, made by indie devs. Cry more qtard, you will never be a real toolkit. Nobody wants to use your cpp slop.
https://arewelibadwaitayet.com/

>>106918124 (OP)
>/g/ says Qt is slow and shitty
Who told you that? Electron lovers? My Arch Linux KDE VM has more responsive UI than Windows 10 host.
Qt is fucking based, you should cherish moments when you have GUI written in C++ rather than in React Native

>>106918124 (OP)
but both kde and qt are fast

>>106918875
fast at krashing

>>106918680
it is substantially more than just "gui"
it's an entire application programming paradigm with supporting multi-OS, networking, threading, IO, multi-lingual, industrial, and graphical support components
further, the "gui" portion is also excellent at creating usable cross platform UIs with default or totally customized widget styling.
I regularly use Qt in high performance compute and have no issues with its built-in "websockets" which is just a special-case http socket

>>106918689
No, KDE with qt only apps looks decent, you can even theme it to your liking. There is also a built in theming for gtk3 apps, so they don't look completely ass. It's just that Flathub Apps are mostly gtk/libadwaita and it's pissing me off...

>>106918920
the cow urine you just drank was in fact produced by the animal beef is made of little indian, too bad you cant taste it.
>>106918935
aka bloat

>>106918948
kde's own platform libraries dont follow its themes the same way https://discuss.kde.org/t/kirigami-doesnt-adhere-to-platform-styles-it-should/27140

>>106918807
my company has more than 400 Qt programs internally by itself.
all of our (cross platform) 3rd party security tools use Qt
tons of cars use Qt on the dashboard/infotainment
>>106918954
>bloat
oh I understand now, you prefer to rewrite getopt yourself because GNU is too big
I'm going to stop talking to you now

>>106918970
>my company has more than 400 Qt programs internally by itself.
proprietaryfags need to stay out of our foss discussions, your wagie brain cant understand the difference between volunteer indie apps and the shitware spyware you make

>>106918124 (OP)
KDE is pajeetware, avoit it.

>>106919011
Sad to see, because KDE has actually german roots, just like openSUSE.

>>106918979
and when we contribute to foss software that you enjoy after convincing MBAs that it's a good investment, that's worth nothing to you?
fuck off retard

>>106919056
proprietaryfags like you will pay the ultimate price, you are a demon, you will go to hell

>>106919011
>avoit
Good morning.

>>106919054
this
it's no longer a case of being able to avoid pajeetware you must simply choose the software that is least advance in pajeetness

>>106919011
>>106918734
>conference in india has indians
Shocker.

>>106918124 (OP)
Qt is not slow if you use it right. The problem is that a lot of applications are just GTK applications roughly ported to Qt and still use GTK paradigms.

Converting GLib's "mainloop" system to Qt's event processing system is a pretty big source of performance issues.

>>106919973
>official kde conference paid by kde donations
indian hands typed this

>>106918124 (OP)
>>/g/ says Qt is slow and shitty
>>yet /g/ also says KDE is fast and good despite being Qt-based
That would be because QT is a tool and the tool can't force the coder to not write bad code

>>106918124 (OP)
afaik kde has wayland libs as a hard dependency. not as a build option, mandatory. you're able to only use x11 session, but your kde is always going to be able to hop on the wayland train - regardless of what you wish.
footfags just get the rope.

>>106920150
the tool is the bad code

>>106920150
/g/ says Qt is bad code

>>106920083
Post proof along with beef.

>>106918402
>that
>"beef"

>>106918370
i run kde on a couple t60, x61 thinkpads that've been unearthed from the trash and it runs decently well. A T430 should be able to more than handle it.

>>106918124 (OP)
>>/g/ says Qt is slow and shitty
literally who said that? Is that a bait post?

>>106921042
>Is that a bait post?
Guess

>>106919897
>you must simply choose the software that is least advance in pajeetness
Thank you, anon. I will preach that.

>>106918734
>all the girls huddled together to one side to avoid having to be trapped between 2 of these grabby mongrels
lmao

>>106918124 (OP)
Didnt want to make a thread.
I want to switch from Debian to Arch, so im tinkering around with a few distros in Virtualbox. My Debian (native) is still on Plasma 5, all the distros im trying are P6 and i cant figure out how to get the fucking taskbar to autohide and come back at mouseover. Im starting to think its a problem with Vbox but im not going to wipe Debian just to check for this little thing. Any expiriences with this?

If KDE krashes what should I use instead?

>>106921984
Did it really crash for you? Did you actually use it even? Or did you get psyoped by old stale memes like a retard?

>>106921998
The latter I'm just wondering what the alternatives are at this point.

>>106922030
Anything and everything? There are so many alternatives for desktop environments/windows managers that no one can really recommend anything meaningfully without context on what are YOU actually looking for and what do you like, even if that answer is Windows or MacOS.
But if you really have zero idea, then KDE is the best starting point since it functions the most like Windows, which I'd assume you have experience with.

>>106920597
don't even stress boo >>106920083 https://kde.org/donate/#money

>>106918124 (OP)
KDE is amazing

>>106922561
>1080
>16 gigs of RAM
what framerate are you getting, 5? 10?

>>106921951
Nevermind, can confirm its Virtualbox (7.2.2)

>>106922583
shut up

>>106921951
Exact same way as its done on 5.
Right click your taskbar and select Edit Mode, then More Options, and its in there

>>106918124 (OP)
Because all the bloated Qt shit is loaded when you start it up and is already resident in memory (all the shared libraries and shit) so now that it's there it's quick enough to use. Also mostly just everything else is more shit than the shit that KDE is.

>>106918479
Could you please elaborate on that point?

>>106922742
Should have clarified, the option is there of course, taskbar disappears but doesnt react to the mouse, only to host key or the custom keys.
However >>106922593

>>106921984
Windows

>>106918211
win32 and everything based on win32 (mfc, winforms, take your pick) is just as cross-platform and all of these options are considerably more lightweight than qt bloatware garbage

>>106918124 (OP)
Use Xfce.

>>106922235
Which part of that says funding went towards hosting conferences in India? Post the evidence ALONG WITH beef.