Thread 106929118

rtngs.com only give all green ratings to OLEDs.
what about burn in? eye strain? what gives

>>106929118 (OP)
>rtngs.com only give all green ratings to OLEDs.
if you don't mind buying a new one every few years they're the best screens available

>>106929170
even for non-gamers?

>>106929118 (OP)
>what about burn in? eye strain? what gives
Burn in is an issue, but modern panels take so long to burn in that you'll probably have upgraded anyways if you're going to buy OLED in the first place.
Eye-strain is a meme, they don't literally flash the panel only as fast as their refresh frequency.

>>106929170
>they're the best screens available
All around least shit*
FTFY

>>106929185
>Burn in is an issue, but modern panels take so long to burn in that you'll probably have upgraded anyways if you're going to buy OLED in the first place.
well has this been quantitatively measured? let's suppose an autist spends 14 hours of every day on 4chan. what happens?

>>106929118 (OP)
OLED looks objectively better. Factoring in burn in is difficult since it takes several months to measure.

>>106929192
That would make them the best, yes

>>106929212
There are a lot of tests but most tards run them at 100% brightness for even desktop use, which burns them in much faster than something like 25%, which is closer to standard panel brightness for desktop use.
My C4 has over 3000 hours on it, bought last year and it has zero burn in, in actual burn in tests.

>>106929229
>objectively better
Value is subjective you fucking retard

I guess Oleds arent selling with all these oled ads lol

>>106929118 (OP)
Rtings is an elitist website that mostly exists to sell overpriced screens to spec chasers. They literally do not review cheap products at all

>>106929185
lol
i had super noticeable burn in in 6 months
if you turn brightness up at all they degrade super fast
if u dont theyre super dim

its green energy tech. rtings gets paid to advertise and only a child wouldnt figure that out

>>106929315
that was my first thought too
I need a new 4k, text/media/browser only, no games. I was considering 27 inch (have 32 but it's just so fucking big, I can't get enough distance from it and this can't be good)
was thinking U2725QE

>>106929118 (OP)
It's just poorfag cope. OLEDs are great, get one if you can afford it. I'll never buy another LCD for any reason.

>>106929476
i never needed to buy another tn panel because my vg248 is great. you will need to buy many more oled monitors though :-)

you spend money frivolously like a brown

>>106929118 (OP)
I'm being completely honest when I say I have never had burn in on an Oled screen. The worst I've had was weird discoloration after 10-12 years on my launch model PS Vita, which I think is reasonable considering the age and how much older Oled tech was back then.
I have 5 Oled screens in the house and haven't had a single issue or any burn in with any of them. To be fair, I don't tend to play the same game for thousands of hours, so maybe that's what it takes to get a hud burnt in.

>>106929291
I wasn't talking about value but objective image quality, retard

>>106929466
hey anon fyi the U2725QE has a really noticeable yellow tint that is hard to calibrate out.

it's not a terrible monitor, but it's super noticeable next to my older gen U2723QE, which looks significantly better. I think they are over-driving the panel or something to hit 120hz. also fwiw, it's not a "good" 120hz, it's a very smeary IPS.

If you have the space or can afford it, I'd get a separate monitor for gaming (the dells are really nice for text clarity tho).

i havent even disabled the task bar on my oled, no burn in or anything after over a year, 400hrs of oled protect apparently, no idea what that means because the protect lasts like 5 mins and it does it once or twice a day when i turn off my pc at night

>what about burn in?
>>106929551
It's pretty much a non-issue. Even with 100% static parts like a status or taskbar. Only in a 100% dark room could I see it at all after a few years. 0/5 OLED screens with noticable burn-in. Will see with my OLED laptop in a few years I guess since I mostly leave it on static screens.

I have however had bad IPS ghosting on TWO displays. Much worse than any oled I have seen in real life. That makes it 2/4 IPS screens. Sure it's "temporary" but it's very noticable and lasts for hours.

>>106929170
>every few years
>set brightness to 40-60%
>hide taskbar
>slideshow desktop backgrounds
>use it for multiple things
>lasts as long as LCD
woah that was hard

>>106930079
You made a value statement you fucking moron. You said, "better". They'd a value statement and it's subjective

>>106931422
thanks anon
>it's not a "good" 120hz, it's a very smeary IPS
that wouldn't come into play while watching videos on youtube or movies, would it? you're just talking about gaming right

>>106929118 (OP)
bros, what is the best 1440p OLED? I am looking into the XG27AQDMG but I wanna hear your takes. Budget is around $600

>also does anyone know when the Gigabyte MO27Q28G is coming out in the US? can't find it anywhere here

>>106931836
>you fucking moron
>They'd a value statement
You stupid little thing

>>106929170
This, although I hard disagree with them rating the G80S as anything other than peak samshit. I went through 3 of them in 2 months due to firmware bugs. Returned it and bought 3 of the Acer nitro p3s for less than the price of the single G80. The premium OLEDs are the best displays in any kind of objective metric, but they aren't double and triple the quality of a high end IPS panel.

>>106929118 (OP)
>>106929178
>>106929466
Their budget 4k ratings include the Acer Nitro P3 which is an excellent choice. You can get them refurbished on amazon. The current price is 350 dollars. I bought mine for 310. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMZB8TGR

The local dimming is complete dogshit, and the OSD is genuinely one of the worst piles of garbage you'll ever use, but the monitor itself is an insanely good value at that price. My suggestion for them is to hook them up, reset the settings to default (refurbs aren't always default), and then the first thing you should do is go into the OSD settings and bump the timeout to close to 30 seconds. The buttons aren't labeled, they're all the same size, and they're on the bottom, so if you ever lift your fingers off you have to fumble around and count where you are or you'll accidentally shut the screen off.

The stock color profiles are mostly trash, but you can start with a custom one and if you did a full rest it should default to pretty neutral. Tweak it a bit to suit your preferences if desired. I don't run my displays at full brightness, and as already mentioned, the local dimming is complete ass and should be turned off.

Ultimately it's an insanely good screen for that price. I wouldn't lean on it for professional media creation or anything like that, but I was happy enough with mine that I bought more. We've got 6 of them in the house now, and all told it cost me less than 2 grand. Really cannot complain. Every friend that I've recommended them to has been favorably impressed.

>>106932302
continued

>>106929358
They do, but budget competition is very stiff. The best budget displays are usually buying certified refurbs of IPS units that have been on the market for a while or are about to be rotated out with a new model. See the above. It would be very difficult to find a 160hz flicker freesync capable display that rivals the Nitro P3. Once in a while you can find great deals on open box oleds, but even those are rarely more than 20% off the price.

Oh and something I forgot to mention is that those displays are only 160hz over display port. They're 144 over HDMI due to an older HDMI standard. Not a huge issue, but something to keep in mind. Again, OLEDs are better, but they sure as fuck aren't 3x the cost better, especially if you get framerate stutters in some games. Decent IPS panels don't flicker, all OLEDs will.

What about the blurry text rendering? Is that fixed by now?

>>106931836
Anon, you are objectively retarded.

>>106931422
>noticeable yellow tint
>super noticeable next to
Are you sure your two screens don't just have a different color temperature?

>>106932343
I think that was only ever an issue with TV's, not with monitors.
TV's aren't optimized for text rendering.

>>106932402
really? I read a lot of posts of people complaining about oled monitors having issues with text fringing (something about the subpixel layout it says), but I cant tell if its blown out of proportion like the burn in thing or if its fixed already

>>106932443
maybe some dumb fuck was running cleartype on oled g9

>>106932443
its such a convenient technology you have to do all this babying and configuring to make sure it works at a basic level for MUH TRUE BLACKS
if i spend 1200 dollars on a monitor it should just work and not burn my taskbar and browser bar in after a few months

oled shilling is so inorganic because its a truly underwhelming picture for how much it can cost. no one could care that much unless they are in full buyer's remorse mode

its such a non issue you can google literally any model + burn in and get many results of people complaining about it on reddit, with pictures included

this is 3 month burn in btw
dont worry linus tech tips told you its a solved issue though. why would a guy recveiving money to review the product lie to you??

>>106931808
>do all this shit to baby your $1000 monitor
I'm just going to buy a mini led

>>106929118 (OP)
My samsung phone oled looks awesome, no eye-strain. I suppose that tech is phone only?
on my pc I use an old panasonic tv (one of the 3d ones) i fished out of the bin at work. It looks nice but is only 1080 and only just does 60hz.

>>106932944
actually you set brightness to max and have like few different modes like "trueblack 400 or 1000" and switch between those depending on what you want

using it for various different media is what you want to do anyway
hiding taskbar is one option, I use windhak to give me vertical + translucent taskbar which is preferable
slideshow wallpapers is nice but takes work if you want good ones

miniled is fine for low end but not as good as oled

>>106929405
No you didn't. You're a coping poorfag who can't afford an OLED so spends his time seething about them online. We already have ongoing burn-in tests from multiple sources and you're not going to be noticing burn-in after six months even at max brightness and using it exclusively for desktop work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuHuM9h88M

Sorry turd world bro, but you'll have to make do with your monitor not being able to display the color black and having abysmal motion clarity.

>>106929118 (OP)
How much power do OLED's use? I live in a caravan because fuck Australian house prices.
Also no 24" OLED's so I don't care.

>>106933197
they should be better than led/lcd especially if you turn the brightness down. Im in au aswell and plan on quitting my full time job and living in the car.

cheap out on monitors. nice monitors are for macfag artists. I use AI for art and IPS panels for gaymen

>>106933271
oled typically use more energy because each pixel is driven individually

>>106933271
Tbh I haven't looked into it but figured someone here might know.
Caravan life is pretty chill. I live off of dividends from stocks. Worst case I try get onto centrelink.
Commies want to put another tax onto heavy vehicles, including caravans because they are "damaging the roads more" and "bad for the environment".

>>106932936
You got what you deserved for watching CNN

>>106929118 (OP)
No one ever talks about the real elephant in the room with regards to OLED and gaming:

FUCKING VRR FLICKER

The single most important innovation in smooth, lag-free gaming and OLED fucking ruins it
I guess when your brain is already smooth you have no need for smooth gameplay

>>106933488
it happens with fps fluctuations and theres ways to mitigate it
samsung has option that disables vrr when the fps goes under certain limit
you can set the game to have higher fps by changing settings

>>106933526
Disabling VRR defeats the whole fucking purpose of it
God I hate you excuse-making disingenuous faggots so much

>>106933542
buy a better gpu

>>106929118 (OP)
Don't modern OLED have obligatory humiliation ritual of shutting itself off every 4 hours or so?

>>106933699
no
typically it runs a pixel refresh automatically on its own when you stop using the monitor

>>106933564
Even the fastest GPU on planet earth can't avoid uneven frame times and input lag or screen tearing, you dumb motherfucker.

>>106933176
you are literally brown and being paid a dollar an hour to shill

[link to paid advertisement youtube chnanel]

Mrmmm very true saar i buying oled now

tunak tunak tun tunak tunak tun da da daa~

>>106933807
what gpu do you own currently

>>106931808
>used to hide the taskbar anyway but decided to change it up after switching to a 3-screen layout and now prefer it that way
>have slideshow backgrounds but never see them because I'd rather have something actually useful on screen by default
>have to drop those habits just to make Thief and maybe a few other games look better
It's tempting but no.

>>106933873
4090 because the 50 series is a shitshow
Nigger

>>106933898
and in what scenario does 4090 have vrr flicker in games

>>106931882
2 months of usage burn in on this model :D

>>106931882
>>106933911
monitor damaged from the webcam sitting on top of it

any of the indian shills here want to share the product theyre pushing this month so i can google for burn in on it? literally every model has posts on reddit of people going "what the heck happened... why do i have burn in i paid so much :("


the biggest joke of this all is that companies are being pushed to produce these because they are greener to make and have less power consumption. you are buying an inferior product that is much more expensive which receives a really high amount of subsidies so that we can have a better planet. and to be honest, that alone is worth it my fellow human beings.

>>106933139
I would rather wait for miniled to catchup than think about doing "monitor maintenance" ever. The black levels being better are not worth the tradeoffs (for me). And no I don't think people who choose oled are stupid I'm not a /g/ autist.

>>106933176
>monitor used for 1.5 years for the most normal, basic bitch, document editing office work imaginable
>already burned in
>OLED subhumanoids think this is a good thing actually
fucking lol

>retards: OLED's are... le bad!
>same retards using OLED's for hours and hours every day for years with their smartphones without issues

>>106934396
You're right, my phone is 2 years old and I can see the ghost retention of gboard when I'm in an all white app. A display that breaks itself if you look at the same thing for too long is planned obsolescence.

>>106932252
Kek going after typos like a little bitch
>>106932353
sorry you're so upset

>>106934447
I believe you.

Meanwhile, I will be enjoying my new 32" 4K 240hz OLED monitor to game.

>>106929118 (OP)
as rting has shown other displays also have burn in and image retention problems
curious

>>106934396
esl moment

>>106932919
>buy a new car
>redline it all the time
>never change the oil

>UM WTF WHY DID MY CAR BREAK DOWN IT SHOULD JUST FIX AND PERFORM MAINTANENCE ON ITSELF

If you don't know how to take care of things you probably should just stick to idiot-proof things.

>>106934531
its more like a car that shits the bed at 30k miles when predecessor cars dont do that because they werent designed with technology that degrades upon use

buying oled is like when your kind stands in front of trains when people tell you not to because its retarded

>>106934487
Gay'me on!

>>106934566
buy a new car and don't change the oil for 30k miles, see what happens

>>106934608
at least you get thick yummy mushy afterwards.

>>106934608
hmmm i still dont get it can you explain this again in terms of cars even though monitors are not cars? and can you include the part where oled costs twice as much for minimal picture improvement, while needing to be babied? compared to ips tn and va panels which do not self destruct in months? that might help me understand it better

can you also explain why guys in your country fuck cows? that is also pertinent to understanding where you are coming from in this conversation

>>106934636
>minimal picture improvement
not reading the rest of your post, lmao

>>106929118 (OP)
If you live in the US you can buy a 5 year burn in warranty at Best Buy. That basically solves that issue. The rest I've heard mixed reports about, seems situational depending on use. I just bought my first one an lg c5, its 48 inches which I found out afterwards isn't as bright as the other sizes. But I'm pretty sensitive to bright light anyways so hoping it will be enough. It was pretty impressive in the store.

>>106929118 (OP)
>what about burn in?
Not their problem.

>>106929185
yeah so fucking long, like 1 year, that's basically forever, right?

>>106934680
>anon just got the notification he needs to pixel refresh for the next hour

>>106934699
just dont have a monitor for 3 weeks while they ship it out bro


btw this is all worth it beacuse the COLORS are so good even though if sunlight gets on it it will damage the panel and if you turn the brightness up it will damage the panel and if you leave it on too long it will damage the panel and if dont do the pixel refreshes it will damage the panel

>>106929118 (OP)
>what about burn in?
They literally have a warehouse stuffed with hundreds of monitors displaying shit 24/7, and take photos of all of them periodically to objectively test burn-in.
>eye strain?
meme

OLEDs are the best monitor technology on the market, and it's not even close. The downside is that they don't last forever. If you're going to use one heavily, get a brand with a reasonably long warranty that covers burn-in, and plan to use the warranty for a replacement just before it runs out.
I've got a Dell AW3423DW with a warranty that covers burn-in, and lasts until Feb 2030. When that's about to run out, one call to support and they'll literally overnight me an advanced RMA, and they'll take back my old one with 30k hours or whatever on it, no questions asked. When that one starts to show burn-in in another 5 years, by 2035, there will be better OLEDs, and maybe even affordable microLEDs or whatever.

Not interested when I can get barely used and two year old top of the line Eizo monitors for 200 bucks.

>>106934852
>They literally have a warehouse stuffed with hundreds of monitors displaying shit 24/7, and take photos of all of them periodically to objectively test burn-in.

l o l.

>no questions asked.

l o l.

evne when they accept the rma they send you used panels btw

>>106934881
Skill issue.

>>106933907
Literally any game that doesn't properly precompute shaders for whatever retarded reason.

A lot of older OLEDs flicker when they drop down into the 50Hz range for more than a frame or two, which is high enough to cause minor strobing with any kind of random stutter due to shitty game logic loops.

>>106934927
this guy wasnt skilled enough either

I'm convinced the jews have tech that would allow for image quality as good as OLED but without any degradation/longevity issues, but they're purposefully sitting on it because they don't want to sell you something that you'd buy one of and then never need to buy again. Instead they shit out incremental upgrades and OLEDs that have built-in planned obsolescence so you keep having to come back.

>>106934988
source?

>>106934997
that mightve been the case during the 2010's when monitor tech was stuck in 144hz ish ips panels and minileds were somehow unfeasible

>>106934997
This is very likely the case. The evidence for it is that LED lighting, which was "supposed to last ten years" has a tiny 5 cent part on the tiny PCB inside the LED that burns out first. By spec'ing that part as one that typically burns out in 3-4 years, they get you to buy another light. The part that would last the full ten years costs 5 cents more. That is some hand-rubbing right there...

>>106934988
Don't know what to tell you, man. I've warrantied dozens of things over the years, from PC parts, to appliances, even guns, whatever. I've literally never once had a bad experience with an RMA from any company. Even when I've had problems that are explicitly exempt from warranty, or stuff that's maybe a year past warranty, I have always managed to talk to customer support, and have gotten them to issue me a "one time exception", or something to that effect.
It's not like I'm some charisma god, or sociopathic master manipulator. I'm literally a sperg who dump statted CHA in character creation. I have to assume that most of those sob stories you see posted on Reddit are from spastic manchildren who throw a tantrum, and are surprised when customer support doesn't want to deal with their shit and tells them to fuck off. In the post you screenshotted, that guy literally admits that support called him "rude, abrasive or abusive".
Literally all you have to do is clearly explain your problem, don't over-share irrelevant or 'problematic' details (e.g. admitting accidental/physical damage), be polite, but make sure you subtly frame it like whatever went wrong is the manufacturer's fault somehow. Be a pleasure to deal with, and customer service will *want* to help you.
So, yes, skill issue.

btw https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results

>>106933134
>My samsung phone oled looks awesome, no eye-strain. I suppose that tech is phone only?
no, they flicker like crazy too
but they take up less of the total space of your vision, and aren't lighting up to compete with the main light sources of the room

>>106935015
>>106934988
Found the source
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/1kxuan5/dell_refusing_warranty_after_oled_burnin_3year/
old reddit without subreddit theme link
>https://old.reddit.com/r/Alienware+none/comments/1kxuan5/dell_refusing_warranty_after_oled_burnin_3year/

Anyone who spends this much time getting dicked needs to learn the beauty of chargebacks. This is why I use Amex. I've done chargebacks for 5 year old products before. Provide them with some decent proof of a good faith effort on your part to seek warranties, and as long as you aren't doing multiple charegbacks per month, Amex won't give a fuck.

No idea if they take it out of the retailer's pocket or the manufacturer. Not my fucking problem either way.

>>106935325
>btw paid advertisement link

MRMM VERY GOOD SAAR

>>106931808
No it's not gonna last as long as an LCD lmao. I use a 24 year old LCD screen (IPS) and there's no way OLED will last that long even if you do all that.

>>106935325
Anyway to further analyze, it looks like where that guy went wrong, beyond an obvious lack of patience, was to forget that he was talking to a series of individual employees, not just "Dell". Any large corporation's CS department probably hates the corporation WAY more than you do, and actively enjoys wasting their employer's money if they can get away with it, but you have to work with them. They usually have an extremely rigid series of hoops they have to jump through before they're allowed to help you.
I've seen the kind of shit these people have to put up with, and there's an excellent chance that they're working with completely fucked software, or more often, several pieces of fucked software at once. For example:
>1980s era command line COBOL program, written by a dead graybeard, that runs in a tiny windowed DOS VM, which technically works fine but is slow to interact with and is also somehow the backbone of the entire CS system, which nobody is brave enough to touch because the last time they tried, they accidentally broke some critical, arcane, self-modifying code the graybeard wrote for a laugh, and the entire system went down for 3 days until they flew in a $2,000/hr consultant to fix it
>2002 era C++ program written using raw Win32 calls, which worked great 15 years ago, but hasn't seen serious maintenance since 2013
>some extremely shitty javascript web interface written by retarded pajeets, that silently eats form submissions 23% of the time, so those notes that someone tried to save yesterday are just gone
>some modern vibe coded AI garbage that literally nobody understands
etc
Just cooperate, and don't Karen it up. Maybe you have to answer the same question 5 times, and maybe the person you're talking to is being lazy or retarded, but maybe there's actually a reason for it, which you'd never find out because they could get fired for complaining about it to a customer. Either way, shouting at them and not cooperating is never going to help.

>>106934738
>yeah so fucking long, like 1 year, that's basically forever, right?
I'm an alcoholic neet, so I basically use mine 3 months in a row, like 18 hours a day and then 1 month just standing there and mine is still good to go from last summer.

So is it true OLED are the best screens available if i don't care about money?

jesus fucking christ the cope levels in this thread are insane. just insane.
some of my favorites:
>>106931808
>slideshow desktop backgrounds
>>106933176
>ongoing burn-in tests
>from multiple sources
>multiple sources
>not going to be noticing burn-in after six months
>six months
>>106934699
>you can buy a 5 year burn in warranty
>you can buy
>buy
>>106934852
>they don't last forever
and my absolute favorite:
>>106934852
>no questions asked
that was a good laugh thanks

The only problem I have with my OLED screens is that the screens are so thin that if you want to mount certain kinds of hardware to your screen (like a Tobii eye tracker 5 for instance), good luck getting it to stay on

>>106936323
Try to prove something wrong I know with my own eyes?

>>106929118 (OP)
Burn is is probably a lie. I haven't seen it since using my Samsung S10 for many years almost all day every day as people do, on high brightness as people also do.

honestly at some point this is insane
you're not married to a display

a normal person might walk up to a store and buy the tv that looks good + what the clerk recommends and dole out thousands for it while pc monitors are in the 300-700€ range and people take up ideological positions for something so insignificant
Then I bet some people discussing oled tech are 3rdies and arent in the target audience to begin with, yet they spend dozens of hours at it.

>>106936199
For most applications, yes.

If you need flicker free with low framerates, no. If you need extremely high brightness for a room with lots of light, no. If you need the maximum possible refresh rates, no.

do any of you have personal experience with burn-in? anyone have experience with using an o-led and NOT getting burn-in (over x amount of time?)

>>106929118 (OP)
>burn in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kPsKyF5bQ
>eye strain
reduce brightness?
>what gives
your mom pussy to me

>>106936999
My phone (pixel 7) currently has some faint burn in of UI elements of the maps app and gboard. It's very faint and not noticeable if you aren't displaying a monocolor light grey on high brightness. But I don't live on my phone, so the fact that it's even noticeable is concerning to me. On the other hand, I have relatives that are glued to their phones have the same model, and they don't seem to have issues.

I had a WOLED screen that went to absolute shit within 8 months and I wound up going back to my old IPS panels. I tried several QD-OLEDs and couldn't stand the purple glow they get when you have sunlight in the room. I like being able to look outside and watch things like wild turkeys in my yard. (Also the samsung one was complete fucking garbage, but that wasn't the screen's fault.) From what we've seen from actual test data, QD-OLEDs do burn in, but much more slowly.

Chances are if you play different video games, you won't notice burn-in. If you play the same game exclusively, or always have your taskbar showing, or only use certain applications like office products, you'll have noticeable burn in.

In my case I wound up going with IPS panels again.
>>106932302
I'll try oleds again in 5-8 years. Or maybe I won't. If 5x5 pixel miniLED or smaller becomes a thing by then, I'll probably go with that because the peak brightness on miniLED absolutely fucking smashes OLED. Maybe that too will change in the next decade. Who knows.

CRTrannies have been getting increasingly unhinged as oleds have matured.

Im predicting mass retrooner suicide once the last bastion of their unwarranted sense of smug superiority over normalfags with their inferior LCDs is gone.
Just look at this troon:
>>106934881
>>106934636
>>106936323

Burn in sure, if you abuse it with static images and high brightness for long periods you hasten that process to the point where it can be concerning. But eye strain? Motherfucker I had an IPS monitor that gave me genuine headaches. I had to sell that shit to a lowlife. I've been using my QD-OLED for a year and the only eye strain I get is from reading stupid shit like this

>>106936999
I've had 5 phones, a laptop, 2 consoles and my current monitor all with OLED/AMOLED displays.
The only ones where I experienced burn-in or some form of deterioration were the Wiz (really old ass chink handheld nobody remembers anymore) and the Samsung Galaxy S (really old phone).

>>106936999
I used a surveillance camera app on my 13 pro to stream my front door camera on and off for years and there isn’t a single hint of burn in where the UI is, that is when I realised burn in is just poorfag sour grapes.

You only bought OLED because of the contrast level and true black. And I don't blame you to be honest because of all the dull grey washed out screens you've been forced to look at. But at what cost? Buying OLED is being a cuck. You're looking at my post right now on a screen designed to steal your money every 2 years. You're browsing 4chan on e-waste. A j*w is literally reaching into your wallet right now as you sit there powerless to stop it. Yes, your screen is BLACKED but at what cost? You are a paypig. Alienware would have gone out of business years ago if you hadn't bought your expensive e-waste monitor. See you again in 2 years, Timmy.

probably gonna grab one of these and then not buy another monitor again until 32" 4k 16:10 oled is a thing

>>106934988
burger issue, unironically
you vil get your replacement in the EU
what you could also do, is to buy the monitor from amazon (seller needs to be amazon) keep the new one and return the old one

>>106937270
CRTs and plasmas look more natural than OLED.

>>106937800
No they don’t.

>>106937829
look at the phosphor's emission spectrum, and compare to a WOLED.

>>106938209
>>106938226
Bottom one looks better to me

>>106929118 (OP)
For what it's worth I've seen no perceivable degradation or burn-in on my laptop after two years of use.
My TV is still new, but I use it for probably a couple of hours per day on average and mostly to watch films and anime, so burn-in is not a concern either.
I think OLED is the best technology we have for everything but desktop monitors, because those are used with mostly static content.

Keep in mind that while LCD TVs don't have burn in per se, they're all disposable garbage designed to be as difficult as possible or outright impossible to repair.
The LED backlight is overdriven and will burn out, the "Quantum Dot" layer will degrade over time etc.

I'm waiting for the TCL 4k miniled. Hopefully I don't get EUcucked.

>>106937182
>your mom pussy to me
give me the pussi boss

>>106937746
if you are in the EU you would barely make enough to afford one even if you were a doctor, so this point is irrelevant

consooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

>>106929118 (OP)
usecase?

>>106937692
>16:10

Bad news for you. 16:10 is dead unless you're buying medical or professional media creation equipment at 10x the price.

oled gives me insane eye strain. i switched back to my ips and suddenly no more eye strain like magic. my ips is brighter too so it's not brightness

>>106933488
why do you need vrr if your screen is 240hz?

>>106929118 (OP)
Burn in doesn’t happen. All that happens to some are screen retention which happens within weeks or days because the whole panel is faulty. People call it burn in because they use google to answer their question and thats why the problem seems a lot bigger than it actually is. Literally every single post about burn in is within days or weeks of using their brand new device. Burn it takes years to happen and there are so many features in place to make it not happen

idk what you niggers are complaining about. had my msi oled for almost a year, skipping panel protect multiple times, max hdr brightness for games and still no burn in. I do have short screen time out and black background with no icons.
it's insane how much better oled looks. not even a close comparison.

>>106941478
it can be a bit wonky to consume sdr content on hdr
SDR mode looks better and more contrasty typically

I'm waiting to buy OLEDs when burn in is >10 years for the harshest conditions. Then I'm upgrading all 3 monitors to OLED.
Side monitors with static content is horrible for OLED but I don't want mixed panel tech either.

>>106941785
are you poor and this is some coping mechanism

these people are so weird

>>106941803
I can spend 3k on 3 OLED monitors every other year or I can spend $450 on 3 IPS monitors every 10 years and buy $2500 in crypto or nvidia stock every other year.
In 10 years that's like $75k-$100k. Or you can have 15 burned out oled monitors. Which one is the coping poorfag again?

>>106941866
you seem mentally ill

>>106929118 (OP)
They're literally the only good panel tech currently. Of course they do.

Why do people kvetch about muh burn in while completely ignoring backlight color changes? I had some old U2410s towards the end of their life being totally different colors, even post calibration. They were total junk about ~8 years later.

>>106941866
>Muh crypto and novideo bubble
It isn't realized til you sold, dumb fuck /biz/ cuck.

>>106929118 (OP)
Hey i own that monitor. I just have a background image rotation and hide thumbnails and start bar to avoid burn in

I don't know anything about eye straining tho, it kinda doesn't sound real?

>>106929118 (OP)
What makes you think eye strain is a metric?

>>106929527
>vg248
>24" TN panel
jesus christ, this is next level poorfag cope no matter what you think about OLEDs

>>106941746
Eh. I have one that's 2 years old and it definitely has burn in. The reality is the burn in isn't a big deal though. It's only visible on a solid gray background.

>>106929212
im that autist, no burn in yet after 3 and a half years, though i did get a dead pixel at the top right of my screen recently

>>106942269
Kek as someone who owns OP's screen and other more expensive ones. I can attest to the VG248 being an excellent screen which is probably the best price-to-performance ratio out of any screen. T- owns 5 VG248s

(Though they don't last nearly as long as that guy says. They start to fade after 5 years and develop tiger stripe screen failure after 10)

>>106942316
yeah i had one and it was decent in like 2014 or something, but come on, a fucking 24" TN panel is not something to use as an argument against modern OLEDs

>>106942249
you likely enable hdr on oled and get more light hitting your eyes
sdr content has issues looking same as it does in sdr mode
if you bought 32" then that greatly impacts how your eyes receive light

>>106933699
that's more just LG having the most obnoxious and intrusive pile of shit of a TV OS, all of their pop-ups can and should be ignored but WebOS is simply a whore for your attention

>>106941866
if you were as rich as you pretend to be you could do both no sweat

I just want the Gigabyte FO27Q5P to be available in NA already. The fuck is taking these niggers so long?

>>106942344
I mean yeah a newer OLED completely btfos a VG248 in every conceivable way. Its not even funny.

It's more of just an argument for the vg248s price allowing them to be competitive in this market; still.

>>106941866
>every other year
i have an 8 year old OLED, still fine. Sure, if you put a plain grey color on it you can see some faint burn in if you really look for it and there are some uniformity issues with grey colors, but that's it. There is no need to buy new oleds "every other year" you fucking sperg lol.

>>106942431
>1440p
>QD-OLED
No like NO-LED

Enjoy your eye strain btw

>>106937692
The better version is available on amazon now, out of stock currently. Not sure why rtings hasn't reviewed it yet, but I'm probably picking it up soon.

>>106942346
can hdr be Perma disabled? on Samsung Odyssey oleds for example?

>>106932919
>had OLED for years
>currently 6000+ hours
>used as PC monitor for entire time.
>PC on 16 hours per day
>Never hid task bar or done anything different to a regular LCD
>No burn in
Anti-OLEDs are just poorfags making excuses

>>106942269
spending money frivolously like an indian is not intelligent. have you ever been inside of a poorfag's home? they always have the latest consumer bullshit lol
its my secondary monitor unless im playing a game. i use an ips for my main display
i probably make more money than you. even if oled didnt degrade from normal use the picture quality and colors are not even remotely worth the price. i had a 1200 dollar oled and it was extremely disappointing

>>106943126
>neglects to mention the model so i cant post another burn in photo because they literally all have people who get it, some even getting it in mere months

yep thats a real story

>>106942444
how about the way where the display doesnt look like shit in months from burn in? or needing to be babied to delay the inevitable?

ps what oled are you using? ill post some pictures of the burn in. things look great on oled when colors are moving over the spots with heavy burn in. its a great experience because it reminds me im doing my part in saving the environment!

>>106943521
I'm an absolute psychopath and just put away my OLED screen when not gaming or watching a movie. (The OLED screen is the small one in the back. Just imagine that turned off. Because it is off way more often than it is on)This is nothing to me and simply "needing to be babied to delay the inevitable" is an acceptable cost for the picture quality. (And it's not the picture quality I require but 360hz refresh rate)

meds

>>106942456
>pays extra for a SOTA display
>literally wears itself out and looks like shit when the warranty expires
>copes with pretending it's not a problem
My IPS cost 80% less and probably looks better now kek.
>>106942416
I'm not pretending anything. I'm saying OLEDs cost too much for having a limited lifespan. I'll pay for either low cost and disposable or high cost and durable. You stupid fucks are paying high cost for a disposable item then limping it along to get your moneys worth before making the same retarded purchase again.
>>106942238
I don't browse biz. And who cares when it's realized, sell whenever you want or need money. Make your money make more money.
I guess I forgot /g/ is a consoomer board, I shouldn't expect any kind of financial literacy. Keep buying your expensive wear items, you'll have great looking jpegs and I'll have an end of month statement with washed out blacks, oh the humanity!

>>106943721
>uses 600 dollars in ergotron desk mounts to keep his 700 dollar oled screen from burning in
Lol
Lmao
Roflmao

>>106942617
Holy ESL

>>106929118 (OP)
bought a 1440p 240hz oled on sale for 550$.
used it for 1.5 years as my main driver for desktop/gaming 8+hours a day every day.

not a single trace of burn and no issues. If it does break ill just buy another one for 500-600$ cause I'm not a poverty stricken nigger.

>>106929192
>it's the best
>ackshually it's the least bad

>>106943475
>>neglects to mention the model so i cant post another burn in photo because they literally all have people who get it, some even getting it in mere months
Why is the model important to you? You aren't buying one. You've already admitted you have worse tech than the average Indian. You just want to validate your poverty by posting images of burn in so you feel safe with your 4:3 LCD Dell from 2007.

>>106943475
lol TV set from 2018.
>oh no my 7 year old screen has burn in. I can't afford to pay $1000 every 7 years it needs to be every 20 years.

>>106929118 (OP)
If OLEDs were good, they would not need to be shilled on 4shill by retarded advertiser such as yourself.
kys, shill

>>106936323
>>not going to be noticing burn-in after six months
>>six months
I've had mine for a year with no issues so far

>>106940336
I'd settle for 3:2

>>106942633
oh shit thanks not sure why there's no info on it but I'll keep an eye out.

>>106946642
If OLEDs weren't the best you wouldn't be here seething and coping