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Anonymous No.106940529 [Report] >>106940628 >>106940680 >>106941933 >>106942217 >>106942622 >>106942692 >>106943090 >>106943195 >>106943737 >>106943982 >>106944094 >>106944333 >>106944460 >>106944530 >>106944724 >>106944731 >>106944732 >>106944884 >>106945337 >>106946787 >>106947655 >>106947747 >>106948168 >>106949467 >>106949778
non-nix friendos, it's time to transition
Anonymous No.106940578 [Report] >>106944460
YWNBAW
Anonymous No.106940628 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
somebody actually spent time making this garbage meme image
Anonymous No.106940680 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
You are a retard and i have no idea what NixOS is but all its users are faggots
Anonymous No.106941081 [Report] >>106942540 >>106945061 >>106948464 >>106948521
Guix!
Anonymous No.106941933 [Report] >>106945321
>>106940529 (OP)
Anonymous No.106941977 [Report]
nixOS unironically cured my distro hopping
also I am getting crazy uptimes on my laptop, like several weeks
neither debian, nor opensuse or any praised distros came close to the reliability I can achieve with nixOS.
The nix package manager is a true miracle. I am able to create development environments without the bloat of containers and having to learn docker, while not polluting my system with otherwise unnecessary packages.
Anonymous No.106942088 [Report]
Last time I used NixOS was with 20.03 and it was a pain in the ass, I imagine it is still a pain in the ass but with more packages in the repo
Anonymous No.106942163 [Report] >>106944910 >>106945316
production line status?
Anonymous No.106942217 [Report] >>106945061
>>106940529 (OP)
commandeered. either figure your shit out or i'm sticking with guix indefinitely.
Anonymous No.106942388 [Report]
Anduril Fury YFQ-44 status?
Anonymous No.106942540 [Report] >>106948464
>>106941081
/thread
Anonymous No.106942622 [Report] >>106942692 >>106942749 >>106942809
>>106940529 (OP)
I've switched from Windows to Nix. Feels fine, first time I'm driving a Distro instead of working on Windows.
Trying my hands at working with everything, I've found that I would like to learn how to make my own packages. Apart from this Nix wiki, which I've already sifted through and find a pain to read in this regard, does anyone have experience and know where I could find something better? I prefer text over videos, thanks.
Anonymous No.106942692 [Report] >>106942701
>>106940529 (OP)
arch for desktop
nixOS for server
>>106942622
nix docs are a bit lacking in that regard
Anonymous No.106942701 [Report]
>>106942692
>nix docs are a bit lacking in that regard
Shame, I like the way configs work and being useful and adding to the possibilities would be nice.
Anonymous No.106942749 [Report] >>106942843
>>106942622
read other Nix packages that require similar resources/steps to what you're trying to package.
Anonymous No.106942809 [Report] >>106942843
>>106942622
I'd start by looking at similar packages to the one you want to add and see how they're written. For example, if it's a Python program:
https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ANixOS%2Fnixpkgs+path%3A%2F%5Epkgs%5C%2Fby-name%5C%2F%2F+buildPythonApplication&type=code

There's also the Nixpkgs manual, for a more structured explanation:
https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/
Anonymous No.106942843 [Report]
>>106942749
>>106942809
Thank you, I'll be looking for some games written in Zig. FYI , I'm looking to make a package for Cubyz. https://github.com/PixelGuys/Cubyz
I'll start looking into it and also the nixpkgs manual further.
Anonymous No.106943090 [Report] >>106943455
>>106940529 (OP)
its called docker it already exists. nix os is a solution looking for a problem
Anonymous No.106943195 [Report] >>106943639
>>106940529 (OP)
i tried it its a pain in the ass to install shit on
Anonymous No.106943411 [Report]
>their logo is made out of their Y chromosomes
Anonymous No.106943455 [Report]
>>106943090
And the governability crisis made even the solution more complicated

>nix
>determinate nix
>lix
>axotol

Instead of maintaining a unified front, the project fucking exploded.
Anonymous No.106943639 [Report] >>106943972
>>106943195
>pain in the ass to install shit on
no it isn't. i dunno what you're doing but it's wrong. even writing your own derivation/flake for custom packages is simple.
Anonymous No.106943737 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
Nixos killed itself multiple times for me beyond repair after updates. The rollback feature did absolutely nothing because once it nuked the bootloader itself, and the other time the DM didn't work anymore regardless of generation or reinstall, probably because it left some filecorpses where it wasn't supposed to.
Both times it worked again after fully reinstalling using the same config.
Once it just shat the bed because disk full, which also meant it wasn't able to rebuild the system anymore or do much else.


This shit never happened to me with gentoo, fuck you.
Anonymous No.106943972 [Report]
>>106943639

nix is one of the most convoluted programming languages I've ever seen. I have Nothing against Elco Edolstra and his team, the root problem is everything thing feels all over the place, disorganized.

There are good moments when the idea shines. When the software is correctly shipped to be mounted into a Nix system, it is nice, but when you have to build something a little more complex, it's a whole different story.
Anonymous No.106943982 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
Just gonna keep using arch sorry.
Anonymous No.106944094 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
>Dutch
fuck no.
Anonymous No.106944129 [Report]
Anonymous No.106944217 [Report] >>106944227 >>106944285
is this where i get flakes tech support?
Anonymous No.106944227 [Report]
>>106944217
no that would be grok.com
Anonymous No.106944285 [Report]
>>106944217
yes.
Anonymous No.106944333 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
>transition
Anonymous No.106944460 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
>>106940578
>read transition
>start smirking like a fucking idiot
>click to open thread
>see first post (best post)
>interaction so predictable I began loudly laughing like a retard
oh my God, this website fucking ruined me
Anonymous No.106944530 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
So what about tranny mod burnout?
Anonymous No.106944724 [Report] >>106944727
>>106940529 (OP)
>Doesn't follow the FHS
Fuck faggots fragmenting the linux ecosystem even more.
Anonymous No.106944727 [Report]
>>106944724
the nix way is better
Anonymous No.106944731 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
My Arch is stable enough.
Anonymous No.106944732 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
But, in reality, nixos is neither.
Anonymous No.106944736 [Report]
YWNBAW
Anonymous No.106944832 [Report] >>106946179
is this a good linux distro to start with? i think it looks cool visually but I know nothing about linux
Anonymous No.106944884 [Report] >>106945316
>>106940529 (OP)
> https://discourse.nixos.org/u/gabriella439/summary
I'm good thanks.
Anonymous No.106944910 [Report] >>106945455 >>106947640
>>106942163
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/andurils-threat-is-existential/70811
Anonymous No.106945061 [Report] >>106948464 >>106948521
>>106941081
>>106942217
Supremely based
Anonymous No.106945316 [Report] >>106945441
>>106942163
>>106944884
> I'd forcefem eelco
Oh no Gabriella Gonzalez already got Palmer Luckey
Anonymous No.106945321 [Report]
>>106941933
It's funny because he is replacing the zero worh another zero.
Anonymous No.106945337 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
I'm not learning a language just to use my OS. If I need to as a sysadmin, that's different because I get paid to, but outside that I don't care or have the time.
Anonymous No.106945441 [Report]
>>106945316
It's over.
Anonymous No.106945455 [Report]
>>106944910
this post is very important

>changing the license requires all code copyright holders to allow it (in all Western countries anyway). Some projects have contributor agreements that assigns half ownership of the code to one body and half ownership to the contributor, which allows all the code to be relicesensed by the body that has half ownership of allthe code. Nix isn’t one of them, so doing it legally would require tracking down every contributor and asking their permission to relicense. Since there are thousands of contributors, this job would require lots of time and money, and would require throwing away any code by contributors that can’t be found or who don’t give permission. It’s basically infeasible.
Anonymous No.106946030 [Report] >>106946274 >>106948521
nix deprecated
Anonymous No.106946179 [Report]
>>106944832
that depends, do you want to learn linux and an abstraction layer on top of it both at the same time? (you dont)
Anonymous No.106946274 [Report] >>106946315 >>106946430 >>106946661
>>106946030
Does it have a non free option? I don't have a lan port on my laptop so I'd need working wireless drivers from the live disk
Anonymous No.106946315 [Report]
>>106946274
https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
Posted from my thinkpad X1 running Guix
Anonymous No.106946430 [Report] >>106948521
>>106946274
you can declare the system to use linux instead of linux libre. Same situation as you and posting from wireless.

;; This is an operating system configuration generated
;; by the graphical installer.
;;
;; Once installation is complete, you can learn and modify
;; this file to tweak the system configuration, and pass it
;; to the 'guix system reconfigure' command to effect your
;; changes.


;; Indicate which modules to import to access the variables
;; used in this configuration.
(use-modules (nongnu packages linux)
(nongnu system linux-initrd))
(use-modules (gnu))
(use-service-modules cups desktop networking ssh xorg)

(operating-system
(kernel linux)
(initrd microcode-initrd)
(firmware (list linux-firmware))
(locale "en_US.utf8")
(timezone REDACTED)
(keyboard-layout (keyboard-layout "jp,us"
#:options '("grp:alt_shift_toggle")))
(host-name REDACTED)
Anonymous No.106946661 [Report]
>>106946274
https://codeberg.org/hako/Testament/#headline-10
Anonymous No.106946787 [Report] >>106947561
>>106940529 (OP)
I'm not "transitioning" to any meme distro that advertises itself with a chad vs wojak
Anonymous No.106947561 [Report]
>>106946787
>a random post on 4chan is official distro advertisement
you brain damaged?
Anonymous No.106947640 [Report] >>106951241
>>106944910
>One more vote will fix this community
Anonymous No.106947655 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
Install Gentoo. Nixos is more for setups with a bunch of semi-identical machines.
Anonymous No.106947747 [Report] >>106952574
>>106940529 (OP)
>can be
I'm not concerned with hypotheticals.
Anonymous No.106948168 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
rpm-ostree + plasma
Anonymous No.106948313 [Report] >>106948500
What is this shit, is it a distro where if you tweak shit you do it in a single master config file and a daemon enforces the system state matches the file?
Anonymous No.106948464 [Report] >>106948483 >>106948677 >>106949266
>>106941081
>>106942540
>>106945061
Packages older than on Debian Stable.
Anonymous No.106948483 [Report] >>106949015
>>106948464
>le updooter syndrome
Anonymous No.106948500 [Report]
>>106948313
yes, very useful for servers, kinda silly for desktops
Anonymous No.106948521 [Report] >>106949533
>>106941081
>>106945061
>>106946030
how does guix compare to kiss/gentoo?
I'd be willing to try it out but from what little i've herd i'm not fully convinced to move over.
>>106946430
>lisp
oh, never mind...
Anonymous No.106948677 [Report] >>106949015
>>106948464
But enough about Nix
Anonymous No.106949015 [Report]
>>106948483
Copium. Nix can do it.
>>106948677
...what are you smoking?
Anonymous No.106949266 [Report]
>>106948464
You’re more than welcome to contribute patches. I can and have
Anonymous No.106949467 [Report]
>>106940529 (OP)
all 4 take hrt. You can't daily-drive linux and not turn into a tranny.
Anonymous No.106949510 [Report]
nixos seems cool but its not gentoo so idc
Anonymous No.106949533 [Report] >>106950022
>>106948521
well its freetard only, so enjoy being a 2nd class citizen if you want anything non-free
Anonymous No.106949778 [Report] >>106949826 >>106950138 >>106951267
>>106940529 (OP)
nixpkgs are highly unstable within a release due to mismanagement.
Frankly i hope ekapkgs becomes a thing.
Anonymous No.106949826 [Report] >>106949845
>>106949778
this has been a lot more true in the last few releases.
Anonymous No.106949845 [Report] >>106949960
>>106949826
I've got a laptop with nixOS that i use from time to to time and I'm amazed at how often my config just breaks due to some option on upstream changing.
And i'm not on nix-unstable.
I don't know what's been going on recently...
Anonymous No.106949960 [Report]
>>106949845
why have they stopped using warnings? "this package will be retired in the next version" seems to be unused now. instead they just immediately break my shit.
Anonymous No.106950022 [Report]
>>106949533
If you use nonfree software, you are always a 2nd class-citizen. Live free or die.
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/
Anonymous No.106950138 [Report] >>106950546
>>106949778
breaks very often now, eg an update to cmake broke at least 529 packages and others that depend on them nearly a month ago and fixes are still trickling in
monorepo approach has outlived its welcome
Anonymous No.106950546 [Report]
>>106950138
isn't that what ekapkgs hopes to achieve?
Anonymous No.106951241 [Report] >>106951534
>>106947640
Votings and re-elections will continue until the three trans people and 4 forum mods get the result they want.
Anonymous No.106951267 [Report] >>106951401
>>106949778
There is a ton of low quality packages now because of how spammy their packaging/github is. They basically just accept anything from anyone. Some have very weird flags and unnecessary dependencies set.
Anonymous No.106951401 [Report]
>>106951267
it's not that. the releases since they cleansed the project of evil have been buggier. shit just gets removed or upgraded and isn't being tested on stable.
Anonymous No.106951534 [Report]
>>106951241
This is why BDFL is the best governance system. You absolutely need somebody that has the power to say
>no we’re not doing that, fuck off if you don’t like that decision
Anonymous No.106952574 [Report]
>>106947747
>hypotheticals
its not, you can pick the stable or unstable branch as the default and override it on a package by package basis
Anonymous No.106953710 [Report]
GNUKE

Free, as in Freedom.