Thread 106941056

>are headphones worth it?
Yes

>dynamic or planar?
Get both

>closed or open?
Get both

>do I need a dac/amp?
Yes

>/iemg/ told me $20 IEMs sound better than any headphones
/iemg/ is a poorfag cope zone. Do not take anything they say seriously.

speakers + sub mog

>>106941141
Having both is really the best option

I don't always want to use speakers.

I like my X2HR with extra thick soft pads.
Should I even bother upgrading?

>>106941141
Why not both?
It's comparing apples to oranges really.

Rate my headphones and my setup

no

>>106941141
headphones + sub

>>106941056 (OP)
>>/iemg/ told me $20 IEMs sound better than any headphones
>/iemg/ is a poorfag cope zone. Do not take anything they say seriously.
Is that why this general is dead 99% of the time?

>>106943120
This general is dead because in headphone world nothing ever happens and 30+ year old models are still relevant.

>>106943120
>$20
Now they've been relegated to $5, graphs, EQ and shit flinging. No one posts IEMs anymore.

>>106943120
hpg is dead because /g/ has been infested with pajeets who can't afford good headphones

>>106943120
Most people buy one pair they like and don't have to buy anything for the next 15 years, that's why. /iemg/ survives off of the constant releases of new chinkshit that costs more but measures worse than $15 chinkshit. Headphones and IEMs are both solved technology.
>>106941466
If you like them there's probably no real need but try some planars out at an audio store, maybe you'll like the improved bass response.
>>106943115
I kneel.

>>106943142
Nah there has actually been some decent innovation in the last decade.

Cheaper/better planar magnet drivers and shit like the DCA 3D printed AMTS as a physical audio filter to tame certain frequencies.

>>106941907
fix your fucking photo/10

what are the biggest headphones I can realistically buy? I want them to be functional but borderline comical/genuinely extremely comical in size. Like they didn't make them specifically to be huge but that was the unintended result. I'm trying to play an extremely sophisticated and complicated prank that will pay off hard.

>>106943339
I concur. There's been some improvements in DD and planar magnetic designs. AMTS basically serves the same purpose as Audeze's fazor but it does seem to work better for tuning. Most of the time anyway. So we did get planars with better tuning and some DD headphones with much lower THD compared to older models. It's only electrostats that haven't really changed all that much outside of more models with removable cables and some decently tuned ones like the first CRBN and the Corina
>>106943390
Probably Jecklin Float QA unless you can DIY your own bullshit like picrel.

>>106943425
>Jecklin Float QA
These are indeed funny but they're not what I had in mind, I need something similar to classic regular headphones that just happen to be huge.

>>106943390
HEDDphones are enormous and weigh like 3 pounds.

>>106943457
Literally perfect, thank you anon! It won't be funny at all if I explain what I'm doing since even a summary would be multiple posts so not going to bother but just have faith something extremely humorous is occurring at this moment

>>106943115
headphones + 2x2 sub array + another 2x2 sub array on the opposite wall with correct phase alignment for active bass trapping

>>106943486
>$4000 headphones with $30,000 worth of subs

>>106943508
Might as well use cheap subs if you're going for an array. Can always use 3x3 or 4x4 if you want more SPL.

>>106943279
now they're killing /iemg/ too with their scientistic drivel and sucking Olive's dick to justify getting $5 dogshit and delude themselves that they can get $9999999 sound by EQing them
yes, really

>>106943617
Some day, they will realize that FR is the only measurement that doesn't matter because it's the only one that can be arbitrarily changed with EQ.

>>106943645
It can't be arbitrarily changed because you're limited by distortion.

>>106943663
Which is why distortion measurements matter and FR doesn't.

>>106943668
The combination matters. If your FR is already close to your desired FR you don't need so much EQ and you're less likely to get audible distortion.

>>106943684
Headphones with awful distortion are bad even if the FR is exactly perfect for you.

>>106943323
Honestly if it really worked, audiophiles would consider it.

>>106943390
At one point Zalman made true 5.1 surround headphones with 3 drivers per cup, it requires multiple cables to work.

>>106941141
What speakers, what sub
$400 budget

Are planar headphones like the edition xv worth getting? I'm looking at the mdr-mv1s or the hd 490 pros. I wear these all day and they'll be used for media consumption mainly. budget is right around $400 probably

>>106943733
There are very few models where distortion can be a valid concern. Most perform well even beyond reasonable listening volumes.

>>106944374
>Are planar headphones worth getting?
Yes.
>like the edition xv
No, chinkfiman has terrible build quality and quality control.
> I'm looking at the mdr-mv1s or the hd 490 pros
Neither of these are planar but 490 are probably better. But imo just get DCA Aeons, they are planar magnetic. Both the open and closed models are $399 on Drop. Remember to EQ, regardless of which one you get.

>>106944374
While you get higher performance per dollar with Hifiman, they're called "chinkfiman" in these threads for a reason. Their quality tends to be lacking, from my own personal experience my hifiman headphones died within 10 months of me owning them.

For my own $400-500 I'd be looking at entry-level Dan Clark Audio headphones.

I have a Sennheiser HD558 and a Beyerdynamics DT770 Pro. Technically the D770 should sound better, but I prefer the sennys? What's wrong with me? Is it 80 ohm impedance on the DTs without an amp or what? I mean, Im not saying the hd558 sounds better, just that I prefer it. I asked my brother and he said DTs sounded better. I kinda agree but not really? What's up with that

>>106944458
>>106944374
Nevermind, I just checked and the sale is over and they're back to being $450. Still worth it imo but at that point it might be a better idea to either wait for a sale or buy directly from DCA so you get better customer service.
>>106944479
HRTF, meaning two different people will "hear" a headphone differently due to the shape of the ear canal. And Beyers have a fuckton of treble so I don't really like them either. You probably just don't enjoy treble rape.

>>106944479
There's nothing wrong with having a preference for one thing over another. I like the way my DIY bullshit sounds and that's all that matters.

>>106944466
>>106944507
Alright, I'll keep an eye out for those aeon open backs to go back to $400. Not in a rush so no worries on waiting. Thanks!

>>106944507
>You probably just don't enjoy treble
Yeah I feel the trebles on these headphones. It's weird really, it was the first thing that stood out from them. Could EQ fix this? Not really sure how that shit works.

Reminder HD600 + Apple Dongle is endgame. If you spent more than $300 you threw your money away on snake oil.

>>106944374
They don't necessarily sound better than dynamic driver ones. But you can get a proper bass extension and the feel of openness without EQ. One thing for sure is that QC is a bigger issue and overall driver fragility and longevity is a thing. You can check marketplaces for vintage headphones of this type, they have been around since the 70s, but you will not get nearly as many results like with estats or dynamics.
>>106944466
Can't say that my DCA experience was much better, E3 membrane started to crackle whenever I moved my jaw after a week.

>>106944580
I've had NoireX for coming up on 11 months without any problems.

Also they're a US based company and their warranty is seemingly decent i've seen no complaints from users on various audio forums.

>>106944565
Wanting more input/output options, more power, and physical volume control are all reasons to want something other than the Apple dongle.

>>106944560
> Could EQ fix this?
Yes, most of the time. Sometimes the headphones have resonances which make treble sound sharper and those cannot be corrected with EQ but for the vast majority of headphones a high shelf filter will suffice. If you don't get how EQ works you can just open autoeq, copy the preset and import it into the EQ software of your choice.
>>106944580
>Can't say that my DCA experience was much better, E3 membrane started to crackle whenever I moved my jaw after a week.
My Aeons are over 2 years old and I haven't had any problems. I've heard of some Aeon 2s having some issues with the membrane but I think that was a faulty batch. DCA has great customer support so I wouldn't even worry about that sort of thing since most of the time he'll replace the headphones even if they're out of warranty. Hell, he sent me a free set of pads once, even after my headphones were out of warranty just because I asked.

>>106944466
Just wanted to counter point this. I've had the Sundara for about 7 years now and have had zero issues other than the expected pad + cord replacement every once in a while. They're basically just one big piece of metal though (with a leather strap where your head rests) so there's not much that could break. I had way more issues with the HD650 since its just a piece of shitty plastic.

>>106944625
I mean, i'm hardly the only one, seeing people complain about their hifiman headphones breaking early in their life is a regular occurrence here.

>>106944633
I can confirm this. Both my HE400SE and Edition XS died within a year. Driver failure. Didn't take them apart so I'm not sure if the membrane tore if if it was something else. My Aryas didn't die but started creaking after a few months of use and the headband mechanism was loose and changed position sometimes.

>>106944652
I bought my HE400i used like new two years ago and the drivers are still great, but I've had to replace the cable, earpads, and print a replacement yoke.

I am a cheap bastard and dont want to pay full retail for the Moondrop Cosmo or Moondrop Venus. I would get either of them I dont really care, I would pay 600 for a Cosmo pair or 200 for a Venus pair. Or better yet, some even chinkier chinkshit that looks similar and is made out of aluminium.

>>106944616
>just open autoeq, copy the preset and import it into the EQ software of your choice
holy shit the difference is substancial. Thanks anon

>>106944983
>I'm a cheap bastard so I want to spend $600 on chinkshit
What?

I'm kinda eying ATH-R50X headphones as my next purchase. Are they worth it? I primarily listen to Japanese music of various genres.

Is it worth to go for picrel at 100€? Hi-X15 by austrian audio.
I have a set of AKG K240s from the chink era, sound ok but ears are touching the drivers; the Hi-X15 are closed backs though, but have deeper ear cups

>>106945435
Forgot to mention that the intended use is public transport + office

>>106945435
>>106945552
Yeah, those are pretty good and high sensitivity so they'll even run off of a phone.
>>106945505
The frequency response is kind of all over the place but THD is very low for such a "cheap" pair of closed back cans. Would probably sound pretty good after some EQ.

Very pleasantly surprised by Koss Porta Pro Classic headphones, they're almost a drop-in, on-ear replacement for Drop HD6XXs I've been wearing for a while. Only things I could really think of to change this up are maybe changing their mount to KSC75 ear-hooks since I find the foam perfectly comfortable, and carefully taking them apart to solder in MMCX sockets in place of the wire.

>>106943617
Giving those fags access to cheap unrestricted internet has been a disaster for online communities.

>>106943390
Arya