Thread 106964917

modern technology

>>106964917 (OP)
first of all you need to be a retard to buy "Smart" anything, second of all Teddy was right about technology

>>106964955
yet you wouldn't even know about that faggot (who rot in jail) without technology.
curious

>>106964965
really, newspapers don't exist anymore?

>>106964917 (OP)
it'd be fun to reverse engineer one of those

>>106964965
pretty sure i first heard of him from people telling me irl

you know, all this technological centralization isn't really a bad thing

>>106964955
>>106964917 (OP)
Imagine sleeping on a non-free bed.

>>106964917 (OP)
>smart anything
Those people deserve to be exploited, injured, and ridiculed.

>>106964917 (OP)
Only a rich retard would buy a bed that connects to the internet, and DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNCTIONALITY WITHOUT A SERVER CONNECTION

Normie moment.

are those beds vibe coded with gpt?

>>106964917 (OP)
>Year of the lord 2025
>Your bed must connect to cloud to function properly.

>>106965133
Is non-free software some sort of wealth signaling thing now? like people want to say "no I entionally use IS that's marginally available because I can absorb the consequences due to my wealth and success."

I really that normal people couldn't get dumber but they keep surprising me.

>>106964917 (OP)
Who the fuck is responsible for this design decision?
Why must two devices on the same fucking network need to use an external server.
Greedy fuckers can't just sell the bed, they need to sell your fucking sleep data as well

>>106965072
Free as in free cum stains.

>>106965249
No, the grift started when retards fell for the 'heated mattresses' faggotry. Then people realized that managing temperature on your own was a PITA and started buying those 'AI powered self heating' types, then 'prepares your bed before your sleep' types and so on.
All started with literal genetic dead ends who couldn't bear the cold and would've died of hypothermia at 5 in any other point in history.

>>106964917 (OP)
>$2000 smart matress
>it comes with a monthly subscription
>sends 16GB a month of (((telemetry))) data
>when AWS goes down it just maxes out the temperature until your house burns down

>>106964917 (OP)
imagine telling someone from the 1800's that a holiday in India would cause some people to be unable to use their beds

It's getting out of hand with the botnets.
Worst part is that this retarded shit isn't stopping any time soon.

>>106964955
Terrorist Ted never worked a real job a day in his life. Terrorist Ted never knew suffering. No one here would survive a month in feudal Europe

>>106964955
Sent from my smartphone

Never not funny.
>Nest pushes update. Breaks thermostats. People without heat in the middle of winter
>Tesla performs server update over labor day weekend. Phone app many drivers depend on as their key won't work without server. Stranded Tesla drivers
>Ring doesn't have proper file permissions set up. Rando low-level employees bating to girls in their showers / bedrooms

>>106964917 (OP)
>"Smart" sleep mattress aka "pod"
>You need to fork out $2000 to buy it
>It also needs to authenticate with the cloud botnet to make sure you have paid your subscription because paying $2k for a mattress isn't enough.
>Needs to validate every command to make sure you haven't broken the EULA and TOS for "your" pod
The ride never ends.

The pumps at a Shell gas station in my town were in a boot loop today. I assume it's related to the AWS thing somehow.

>>106966291
I am waiting for the teledildonics botnet, ransomware or sabotage that makes them detonate lithium batteries

>>106966291
Imagine what will happen when these things are obsoleted by the llcs making them and they stop receiving updates. Total Internet Death. All because retards bought into retarded marketing.

>>106966694

Yeah this is all going to be abandonware sooner or later, especially all of this stuff with phone apps.
It's a guarantee that the current phone apps aren't going to be maintained or even available 10 years from now and the tools are obsolete.

>>106966744
That reminds me that I needed an OBD2 scanner one day immediately and bought the cheapest piece of shit I could find at a local store. It works via a phone app kek. I should probably get one that's won't be abandonware in a few years.

>>106966327
He literally grew his own crops in the woods you stupid nigger
You are too brainwashed by the concept of Federal Reserve toilet paper.

>"smart" device
>gets lobotomized the moment it can't phone home
Not very smart is it, huh?

>>106964917 (OP)
>imagine buying a botnet mattress
My Hypnos mattress was nearly 700 quid but my god it's comfortable. After spending many nights in premier inns I knew I had to have one.
Worst hotel bed yet is hampton Inn. concrete mattress and sandbag pillows.

>>106966314
in traegers defense you do not need to connect it to a network to use it, just to control it from your phone.
i bought one and it sucks though. pellet smoking is gay.

>>106965888
Those triples

>>106966442
Wasn't some place hacked because of their smart thermostat or some shit like that? Getting access to the company intranet because you connected to their nest wireless connection

>>106966966
>just to control it from your phone.
Why the fuck would I want to do that

>>106967081
smoking takes hours and often done at variable temps. suppose you want to change temp or check the remaining pellet level while you're at work.

>>106964965
He wouldn't have done what he did without technology, predeesh.

>>106964917 (OP)
Why the fuck does your bed need to be connected to some server.

>>106966442
>random tesla negativity out of nowhere
Fuck off tranny

>>106967126
so the glowniggers can buy the data to know when you are asleep and pick a time to kick your door in

>>106966291
we thought we'd have a cool techno distopia at least, like ghost in the shell
we're really gonna have brainrot slop retard distopia
things so stupid nobody can predict them
like attaching your plumbing to the internet so you cant take a shit because of a DNS problem

>ronald mcdonald is my president or something
>[bed gets stuck inclined]
>I can't do anything now or something like that

>>106968009
So, Brazil (1985) then?

>>106966754
willing to bet his washing machine is participating in a DDoS lmao

Everyone knows the amazon logo is a dick, right?

>>106968493
meds

>>106966640
imagine paying for this

>the heater power is cloud controlled with no fallback
ahahahahahahahahahah they couldn't even be arsed to include temp targets in a local microcontroller

>>106968513
next step is racking up fines for all time you kept it disconnected from the internet. if more than 12 hours pass it permanently bricks itself + you pay the fine

>>106966765
You can get bluetooth ob2 adapters for 20 to 30 dollarydoos.

>>106968009
Smart water, smart electric, smart gas, smart sewage, all synchronized and controlled by the utility for that sweet sign on discount. Toilets don't flush between 4pm and 12am to avoid overloading the shitgrid during peak shitting hours.

>>106968501
No thank you, you can have them.

>>106965268
They can sell the data regardless. It was most likely done because the team were too incompetent to create a client server.

>>106968603
Please point to the dick. I'm not gay, so I don't have superior penis recognition powers.

>>106968513
today's engineers and designers are zoomzooms.
they grew up always having internet.
it's inconceivable that it could stop working.

>>106968660
I'm a zoomer enginner too but I don't trust centralized ultra complex systems further than I can throw them. We are cooked enough as it is, we don't need our mattresses suddenly turning into grills.

>>106964917 (OP)
I sleep on a mattress I bought in 2019 because I’m too lazy to buy a bed. Besides I will probably sell my flat. The only piece of furniture I ever bought was an office chair and two tables for my PC and a cheap Samsung printer idk

>>106967697
>there can never be valid criticism of my le epic based meme company

kill yourself

>>106964917 (OP)
>amazon jeets kill granny because her heated bed turned off overnight
they said it was a "common error" but didn't say what

>>106966966
>i bought one and it sucks though. pellet smoking is gay.
based and accurate

>>106966990
there was a casino that was hacked through it's aquarium

Worst part is when they sell the botnet product and say you can have all of the smart features off, but then start denying basic features if you don't enable the wifi bullshit.

hagg de blaned

I genuinely don't understand the point of "smart" technology.
Like why would I want anything to rely on the internet for basic operation.

>>106969002
>I genuinely don't understand the point of "smart" technology.
You're not the party who is provided value by smart technology.

>>106969033
They already steal my data through other ventures.

>>106964955
He wasn't right. There is nothing wrong with technology or even a "smart bed" or smart everything. There is something deeply wrong with rent seeking and everything as a service. The beds failed because they're a retarded dubious scheme that hopes to funnel continued revenue. They weren't sold as a way to let people actually control their bed or to glean useful knowledge (if any is even possible) from sleeping on it.

>>106968930
tf do you need wifi on the stove for? the only potentially useful thing I can think of is checking if it's turned off or remotely turning it off and that's it.

And yet people tell me I'm retarded and dumb and paranoid for preferring low/no-tech solutions to things.
The chipotle girl was telling me about their rewards app and apple pay and all that bullshit and I had to just waive her off; I don't even like my credit card I just hate dealing with change. I'd rather use cash exclusively.

>>106966291
I 'member these too. The upsell is your shopfloor system could program in how much torque for whatever bolts you needed to tighten based on whatever work instruction you were working on. Neat idea I guess, but practically seems like another meme that will fail, as it probably has or will.

>>106964917 (OP)
Browns on /g/ will believe anything nowadays.

>>106968650
Is it gay to notice the phallic symbolism metaphorically slapped across your face or gay to be so desensitized you don't notice it?

>>106969318
>is it gay to see penises everywhere
kinda

>>106964917 (OP)
>Buying a "smart" bed
>Need cloud connection to sleep
You get what you fucking deserve, retard.

>>106968454
>we're all in this together
hmm

>>106967697
>random
I can't even tell if Tesla fanboys are trolls or serious. How is that random?

>>106964917 (OP)
>"smart" tech
>exclusively used by dumb people
huh
let's hope this aws shitshow is a massive wakeup for normies who have been sleepwalking into a techno feudalist dystopia
>>106967697
doing damage control for billion dollar companies isn't going to make you cool

>>106967081
You leave it at a low temp for HOURS veggie raising it up for even MORE HOURS. I've had to adjust the temp and look at my brisket internal temp while 30 miles away working.
But I've only had to do that like twice because most of the time it's cooking overnight while I'm sleeping and at home.
>>106966966
>pellet smoking is gay.
Ehh. You need good pallets, a smoke tube, and more low temp cooking time to get a decent fraction of a stick burner. But it's way more convenient and easier to use. I'm not doing comp bbq and if I really wanted good bbq, I could bust out my old oklahoma joe or go to a good bbq joint around me that could do it better than I ever could.

>>106969318
>seeing dicks where there are none
have sex, it's for your own good

>>106965351
kek

>>106964917 (OP)
why would the AI need to be stored on the cloud?
is it too big to be stored locally?

Wasn't AWS the system that was supposedly built with TLA+ and other formal verification tools. You can find endless videos of the AWS team bragging about how bullet proof their software is, yet coincidentally it seems to regularly have service outages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxP4wi4DhA0

>owning "smart" anything
You only have yourself to blame.

Kaczinsky was right about literally everything

>>106971336
Kaczinsky was a cuck who killed a random PC shop owner

What kind of retard buys a bed that connects to the internet and records biometric data to send directly to China?

>bed loses connection
>flings you out like it's fucking Looney Tunes
Hell is real and we made it ourselves.

>>106971367
how else is he supposed to improve his sleep score?

>>106964988
>news papers are not technology
Do boomers really?

>>106968660
It's not incompetence, it's their business model. You pay monthly for the cloud service and even pay extra for "more heating intervals" as if floating point numbers are expensive. If they allowed local operation nobody would be forking out 50/month.

>>106971367
Probably the same type of retards that fall for those DNA tests when basically the entire consumer facing DNA test industry is literally and directly owned by China.

>>106971630
Especially after they outright admitted a while back that they intentionally falsify results and add shit like sub-Saharan African to otherwise completely white profiles to "own the chuds."

my smart doorbell refused to work my packages got fuckign stolen

>>106971653
>intentionally
Is it actually intentional? Not really doubting it but I also know how incompetent and especially lazy these fucks are so I wouldn't be surprised if one of their customers test results comes back as 80% Mongolian Grey Hound.

Make your own: https://near.blog/the-1-8th-sleep/

>>106964955
Smart is fine as long a it does require an internet connection.

>>106971832
Doesn't *

>>106965133
It really should be common sense right? That if the bed loses connection it switches off any extra features and returns back to a flat position.

>>106966659
>Set it to maximum vibrate
>"Pull it out in the next 10 minutes and the battery will explode. Good luck"

>>106968470
It's probably mining bitcoins. Every single vulnerable device with compute power is a bitcoin mining vector. How efficient they are at it is irrelevant because someone else is paying the electricity bill.

>>106971336
He was right about many things but his targets were really REALLY badly chosen.

building a smart home and not building it on openhab

..........

I have a smart washing machine. It remembers the settings I use. Well, it just has a dial that I've left on quick wash for the last 8 years but still that counts right?

>>106971832
For me it's

>>106972264
>>106972308
do they not turn off? what do you need a washing machine on standby for. I'm a neet and use it once every 2 weeks but even if you use it more often just turn it off bro?

>>106966314
>Do NOT Power Off
>Grill Will Reset

Why is this so funny

>>106972385
>You vill update zhe gas grill and you vill not touch it, it restarts itself. #grillstoo

>>106966364
>implying everyone is a ph*neposter like y*u
Go back to TikTok or whatever hellhole you came from.

>>106966552
>you vill eat ze bugs, you vill sleep in ze pod

>>106969142
Nah, they're actually in use quite a lot. Teach low paid workers what head to use where, and it'll show a red light until the bolt is torqued down proper. I understand that it saves training, but it should never need more than LAN or even Bluetooth connectivity

>AWS is down and I can't turn my lights on or my mattress off
Oh no!
Anyway...

>>106968493
I want to feel the dopamine that he is feeling from that

>>106972320
I have a few ESP32 boards but I can't find the willpower to program them.
Any tips? What do you use them for?

>>106975226
Going off of what ex-addicts say: Try heroin.

>>106969254
its real though
https://x.com/m_franceschetti/status/1980419272766583262

>>106964955
You can get smart home stuff that doesn't need internet, then you just firewall it on your router and control it with LAN/Bluetooth.

>>106964917 (OP)
>buy a little tool like a code reader for your car
>it doesn't have a display and requires Bluetooth or some shit to communicate with a proprietary cell phone program
>download the program
>it's loaded with ads
>requires microphone, file, and camera permissions because ((((reasons))))
>the company wants you to pay a subscription for anything more than basic functionality
And it's even worse if the device expects to be able to use the internet itself. Why boomers and retards just put up with paying to be exploited like this, I'll never know.

>>106964917 (OP)
>ahhh I'm being burned alive by my mattress I should never have ripped off the tag!

>>106975771
>Here are some testimonials from our customers:

>>106976586
>posted from my smart phone
oh, zoomie...

>>106969097
>rent seeking and everything as a service
in other words, jews

>>106964917 (OP)
Only a dumb person would buy a smart bed

>>106969041
They want more

>>106964917 (OP)
hope it lit some beds on fire

>>106966442
>>Ring doesn't have proper file permissions set up. Rando low-level employees bating to girls in their showers / bedrooms
H-hot

>>106978476
Only retards need to pay for items to be smart for them at all, really.

>>106979749
https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/01/ftc_alexa_ring_amazon_settlement/
>The complaint details one employee who, the FTC said, “viewed thousands of video recordings belonging to at least 81 unique female users,” and “focused his prurient searches on cameras with names indicating that they surveilled an intimate space, such as ‘Master Bedroom,’ ‘Master Bathroom,’ or ‘Spy Cam’.”
>The employee spent more than an hour a day on this revolting stuff, undetected by Ring, for months, it was claimed.
It's actual revolting stuff perv

>>106964917 (OP)
Technology is so pajeetified.

>>106975251
I use them like lego. Buy random sensors out of aliexpress, some 220V-5V transformers, and hook them up around the house in 3d printed cases
>Add a LD2410C and a 3v relay and you can make a motion activated light
>Add a temp sensor, relay and oled screen and you can make a thermostat
GPT is really good at shitting out esphome yaml, just tell it which board and sensors you have
Pic related is my outdoor sensors setup (light, temp, humidity, air quality)

>>106972232
Common sense would be for it to not have any Internet connection at all. Features like warming, inclining, etc... Should be controlled by buttons on the bed itself, or via a remote control, or at most via a phone app controlled over Bluetooth. If desired functionality can be performed without an Internet connection, it should be performed without an Internet connection. Otherwise your bed is a free DDoS bot for any hacker who wants it.

>>106969097
DELETE THIS ANTISEMITIC FILTH

I hate smart anything. Worse of all the vampire power from these devices are even worse than having a fridge run non stop during the summer.

>>106964955
Checked.
Kill all techbros. Burn all Data Centers.

>>106964965
>What is a book
Literally kill yourself you brown subhuman

>>106979779
>basically that south park toilet watchdog gag but irl
Life is stranger than fiction

>>106964917 (OP)
>smart bed

why?

>>106964955
yes but he does a poor job at defining exactly what he means by technology and isn't able to concisely describe a thing that makes tech directly good or bad. if anything that disrupts the power process is bad, then there are thousands of things we would not define as technology, or as part of industrialization, that would still fit in that box. the whole paper is the freaked scrawlings of a dude who feels powerless to the change and disruptions happening around him that are beyond his control, and instead of simply accepting that the world changes he decides anything that changes the world is inherently evil. plenty of his ideas are sound and very agreeable but he fails to adequately defend the thesis.

>>106964917 (OP)
I think it's worth it. It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some people stuck in an inclined position every single year so that we can have the Sleep8 to protect our god given naps

>>106982984
>it seems you ate a lot of dominoes pizza recently, might we recommend pizza hut?
>unskippable pizza hut ad starts playing in the app

>>106982984
literally an adult swim late night sketch

can't wait to meet the most popular influencer on this platform

Alexa, turn off my autobot fleshlight and unlock my cuckchair9000

Alexa, turn on

Alexa call mom

Alex--ACK

>>106964917 (OP)
So this hit one of my companies competitors. They provide Sleep8 (the mattress) with the biomarker data from wearables.
It was a pretty big outage across the space.
My company had delayed responses for the behavioural insights from biomarkers that we extract from phones and wearables but at least we are more robust at retaining it. We provide the backend webhooks and API for these systems.

One of my friends actually has one of these mattresses. It seems astounding to me that someone would pay 6k Dollarydoos and then she has to cop a 30$ a month subscription to sleep on it.

>>106975432
And why would I need that?

>>106986123
>30$ a month subscription to sleep on it.
what the fuck

>>106986137
Yeah it's pretty retarded.
I don't think there is a family plan either.
Imagine having 4 beds in your house that you spend 24k on and then you have to spend $120 a month for everyone to sleep on them.
This is AUD though (it's 1 USD to 1.5 Dollarydoo)

So cool to live in the future with subscription beds.

>>106979779
Mom got a blink to watch the dog when she's gone. When he was a puppy we put him in the bathroom so he wouldn't get in trouble. Now he goes there when he's home alone. Mom wanted to put the camera in the bathroom. Glad I talked her out of that.

>>106983924
That's the worst part. The technology is promising, checking every stool sample could detect a lot of illnesses early, but it's just used for data mining and probably doesn't even do what it's supposed to in the first place.

>>106964917 (OP)
>overheating mattress
Literally just unplug it lol

>>106964917 (OP)
I hate this kind of DRM it's unreal, I hope this dogshit company goes bankrupt

>>106965249
It's mostly people who dont know better.
No one goes out of their way to find bullshit that requires a remote server to operate.
It's just when you buy expensive things, you get that overengineered bullshit that requires a server and you just dont think about it until it's fucked.

If anything, reasonable people would assume that two devices on the same network would communicate directly and something that can connect to the internet should be powerful enough to keep track of time and apply whatever schedule you set for it by itself.

There is a reason IoT devices are made this way tho. You can never guarantee network conditions. Can two devices on the same wifi network communicate? They might not due to any number of things like client isolation. About the only thing you can guarantee is a gateway where you can make an outbound connection.
Since a remote server covers 100% of use cases. There is little incentive to for p2p communication on the off chance the server is down.

>>106964955
fippy bippy

>>106964917 (OP)
who the fuck connects their bed to the cloud? topkek. maybe they should have their defibrillator connected and only functional when AWS is up and running.

>>106966291
>tfw your metal smartcage gets hacked and your benis is now in permachastity
what could be done if that happened? what if bolt cutters can't cut it?

>>106969142
Why pay a machinist 30 dollars an hour to torque spec stuff when you can hire 2 dropouts with GEDs part time (no benefits) for minimum wage to do the same job and have them scrub the toilets at the end of the day because they're retarded enough to do it unquestioningly without being provided PPE? If you actually need the trained personnel for something, you can hire 1 of them instead of 2 or 3, allocate them more efficiently, and hire a few dipshits to do other stuff.

Even if you're not cutting labor costs, these things pay for themselves the first time they prevent someone from fucking up an $800,000 dollar piece of equipment with a $200,000 repair bill because of a bad torque spec.

>>106973626
Yeah, these things are pretty useful. They should get sandboxed into their own vlan in any company with any sense.... which unfortunately is almost none of them, but greybeards understanding internet security is a whole other conversation.

>>106967100
>remotely control your stove while at work
>stove software has a bug
>switches to the highest temperature and burns your house down
People nowadays really are just adult children, huh? Zero foresight, no sense of responsibility, all about convenience, egoistic.

>>106989498
>putting bolt cutters anywhere near your cock.
This is your brain on non-free software.
>>106966291
>Internet connected wrenches
....what?

>>106975395
>your pod experience
Fucking normies man.

>>106975251
Micropython.

>>106968009
flush DNS, problem solved

>>106964917 (OP)
does this remind people of the left-pad bullshit?

>>106992119
Yeah anything that actually uses a flame I would not leave on unattended. I mean yeah I'll walk out of the kitchen for a bit to do something else if I need to, but I'm not fucking leaving the house completely. That's just not safe.

>>106965133
how would this work without a central server?
for real
for the normies
do you have to have an always on PC that is managing the bed?
do you need to have a managed router?
does the bed need its own embedded PC that needs to be configured to your home ISP equipment so you could use a phone app to operate it?
does the bed only work when it can connect to your phone via BT?
What of you are using a BT speaker on your phone, does that mean you cant use your bed?
should the bed maker include a single use tablet like device?
should the bed go back to using a physical control panel that is a PITA to program and use?

srsly, what is the alternative solution for normies who cant be bothered with any of that?

>>106968569

Just wait till it hits TP. micro transactions go brrrrrr.

>>106982984
no, that would be Numi 2, which has Alexa built into it. The thing in that picture just goes on the rim of a standard toilet. Get it right.

>>106968622
>create a client server.
Wont happen. This would be any kind of freedom to the client

>>106966314
>WiFire

You are not a real grill, you will never be a real grill

>>106995034
>iGrills on suicide watch
Some of you are alright. Don't not disconnect your propane tanks tomorrow.

>>106986123
Me last panel on the left

>>106994772
Why?

>>106964917 (OP)
How the fuck are heated mattresses even a thing? When I go to bed I want my mattress and sheets to be chilly not fucking warm.