Thread 106980417

why not look for job in esports? esports guys are more gamedevs and more techworkers than any gamedevs and any techworkers ever will.

the environment is not sterile at all and you can be edgy as much as you like. No vapid boomer managers, no eggless female HRs, and most importantly, no dumb toddlers, and it's upholds actual genuine family values.

it will feel like highschool again, trust me.

Food? In this economy?

I wanna fucking die

Got an offer bros.
The job is to write C with no AI even allowed and you need to be a US citizen.
There aren't even words for this level of winning. I can't believe I finally did it.
I'm going to print out the spreadsheet I have of places that rejected me and hang it on my wall.

>>106980486
gubbermint?

>>106980513
Walmart. I write the code for the thing that keeps the cigarettes under lockdown.

>>106980513
Yes, gubbermint. I'm surprised I got it since they're hiring me during a hiring freeze AND a shutdown, but I'm not complaining of course.

>>106980552
If its local government then you are still getting paid. If it'd DOD then some of them are still getting paid. If it's contracting then these contracts get paid out yearly.

>>106980552
gz nigga hope you don't get shafted on the promotional track for GS 5/7/9/11, promotions were being put on hold while I was there earlier this year.

>>106980595
Thanks.
I honestly don't care if they don't promote me for a long time after I get there. The starting pay is better than I was doing before anyway and the locality pay is great.
I'm definitely feeling very lucky right now.

why are indians suddenly obsessed with esports?

>>106980834
They are also obsessed with the game cricket. No clue why certain cultures are obsessed with certain games. Valve practically owns eastern europe's pro game market, CSGO, TF2, DOTA 2. Koreans are obsessed with MMO's. Japs are obsessed with Baseball, NBA, martial arts.

>>106980849
They are a british colony.

Indian tried to enter cs back in 2017 under optic name and they scammed the tournament organizers and got banned entirely forever.

Learn from history

Every time india tried to setup a tournament it's always horrible as shit and even the tier 3 players wont go there anymore.

Look at saudi as comparison.

>>106980834
If you look at the fucking archives from 2023 to 2025 you will at least one single post each semester that goes like "esports players are techworkers" but you're too porn brained to do that.

Fucking sad CIA puppet.

>>106981099
>one post each semester

>measuring time in semesters

stop being young, newfag

>>106981116
Stop being a jobless bitch dumbfuck

>>106981099
that doesnt address the question and a scant ~3 years counts as "suddenly"

>>106980417 (OP)
>Dropped the sticky
No wonder you're not getting hired

>>106980417 (OP)
>No vapid boomer managers,
the big money is all coming from boomers who expect and want results and returns. you just are too low to be in the room with them
>no eggless female HRs
there are huge amount of asian woman management in esports world. they might not be HR but they will be your boss.

>>106981271
Why should i entertain a school shooter like you?

You all hangout here like maggots to an open wound not because you cant code or lack projects or lack of experience

The fact is simply because nobody likes you, goyim.

If i still see this thread on the weekend, some unforeseen consequences would happen

>>106981729
Excuses excuses excuses
You are excused from your life.

Nobody should listen to you.

>>106982421
Because you are my favorite lolcow, that's why.

retarded neets aren't allowed cushy positions. secure a job like >>106980486, pay off your debts and only then you can dream.

>>106983046
>pay off your debts
?

>>106983046
>pay off your debts
that's illegal in america THOUGH

>>106983053
>>106983120
that's the joke.

>>106983036
You're not sick enough to pull it on yourself

You're not sick enough to hit the lot and skate

Ummm there is a labor shortage? How tf can you not get a job? Companies are literally lining up to pay me to move to the US to work

We're posting blood and gore now? You dont wanna play this game jobless fatherless cracka

>working on a personal project
>ChatGPT has integration into the SDE and access to the entire codebase
>ask it to try to figure out a basic UI issue (why a button isn't working)
>shits out 200 lines of suggestions
>none of them work
>this happens 9/10 times I ask it anything
My personal favorite is when it tries to call data structure specific functions on objects that don't have access to those functions (IE. trying to call .last like as in array.last on some other structure)

>>106983530
>>ChatGPT
Stopped reading there

If I'm an eastern euro who only knows C, what should I learn in order to land an OK job with room to learn/develop?

>>106983530
>>ChatGPT
Nigger!!!

holy shit is this what all cybersec retards look like

>>106983979
are you guys going trick or treating

>>106983889
programming

>>106983938
AI is the future, retard. You're unemployed and left behind because you refuse to improve your skills and keep up.

>>106983997
LLMs will be trash soon because of overfitting (models training partly on LLM outputs). the golden age of ai came and went

>>106983997
i am a hardware enjoyer and ai cannot troubleshooters. name one time a software troubleshooter has ever worked, even an ai powered one. you cant

>technical interview time, recorded meeting
>get asked to build a consumer for an API
>"no worries you can use the internet to search anything you need"
>search something
>my fucking gelbooru history pops up

>>106984090
sometimes there's input fields that randomly show searches I've done that have no relation to the input field at all. And it's always very terrible things. I hope a history / cache clear will fix it. If not uhhh I'm interviewing on my other machine that is 100% squeaky clean.

I liked wellfound initially but once you parse through all the postings...there aren't many added that frequently. damn it.

>A cool a Youtube video for what i need
>"high-pitched hindi accent* hello yewtube
FUUCK

>>106984782
truly the most grating accent

>Hey, cool, a Youtube video for what i need
>"high-pitched hindi accent* hello yewtube
FUUCK

>recruiter reaches out to me about some new contract after seeing my resume
>she wastes time asking me all these questions and at the end she tells me it requires 7 years of experience even though I have nowhere close to that
why do these dumb women get jobs and I don't?

>>106985020
They are quite literally retarded. I had one reach out to me for a job requiring 10 years experience in a certain technology. I had 2, maybe 3 if you stretch a project out.
Of course I never made it past the first round interview even though it went well.

>>106981023
What do you think he's doing now? He's most likely a scammer.

>>106980417 (OP)
someone please at least give me an interview im so tired of doordashing bros i get like one shit order an hour

>>106985545
deliver my boba tea order, wagie.

>>106985545
>i get like one shit order an hour
Just be more polite bro

>>106985595
You got me the wrong pizza, moron

>>106983530
>>shits out 200 lines of suggestions
>>none of them work
thats like, 99% of my interactions with chatgpt

5 applications today...time to work on my side projects or on learning c++...

>>106980417 (OP)
Do you guys reply to Indians (as in living in India) on LinkedIn recruiting for cleared (as in security clearance) US positions? I don't think that violates any security rules, but it still seems kinda weird.
Actually do you guys reply to Indians at all?

>>106985865
I have never replied to a recruiter on linkedin, let alone an indian one. arent they all bots or at least automated mass-mails anyway?

>>106985865
No.

>>106985865
I'll do you one further, if I see the job posting has a pajeet as the main contact I don't even bother applying 90% of the time.
I know I SHOULD so it can bite them in the ass later when clear bias is shown but I'm just fucking over dealing with pajeets.

>>106985865
unless it's from a major company In the US I would never reply to any indian. These "people" need to be cut out from American society entirely. They do not belong here. You should not acknowledge them.

>>106985865
if it's not a bot ask him why he's asking about NATO clearances despite not being in a country even formally allied to NATO, let alone an actual NATO country

>>106985865
Nope i ignore them i get hit up on linkedin so much by spam recruiters idk wtf is going on on that app desu

>>106980417 (OP)
magixx deserved better. zweih fucking sucks

I just debugged my first AI sloppa :3. I had it vibe up an sql trigger for me that would automatically check quantity on hand, calculate the total order cost by order quantity * unit price and append the order date and time, but the trigger was having trouble getting unit price. The issue was the AI wanted me to use unit_price as the local variable while it also look for unit_price on the products table and that weren't working so I just changed the local variable to unit_price2 and it worked.

How do I as a Scandinavian land a remote job from the united states?

Americans would have their reasons to hire a nordic person rather an indian right?
For remote jobs.

Now I just have to write 300 words about my databases normalization WOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHH NO TRANSITIVE DEPENDENCIES!!!

>>106986274
sound more indian

>>106986278
Deepseek can do that for you in 30 seconds.
15 seconds of thinking and 15 seconds of writing.

>>106984090
Use another browser in the future.
Edge is good.

>>106986274
don't you need a higher average salary to live in scandinavia compared to shitndia?
you'd have to outshine the indians by miles if they are to justify paying you a higher rate
god forbid an indian interviews you

>>106986324
But people in the newspaper said there's white women with 3 kids doing american remote jobs while living here and they like the life style.

>>106986288
desu how do i look up the trigger code in mysql workbench in case I need to see how to write a trigger in case we run out of AI liquid?

>show triggers
thanks gemini

>>106984090
do you guys not turn that shit off? I always have just because I don't like the clutter.

How is the tech job market in Poland? Current work has decided to stop paying me unless I threaten to stop working and deliver for a few days, so I'm just riding it out while writing my CV. Am I about to find out it's jeeted worse than Canada in the tech sector?

>>106986620
>Am I about to find out it's jeeted worse than Canada
this is not possible

>>106986620
I don't see how it can be worse than Canada. A lot of US companies now are choosing to outsource their stuff specifically to Poland. At least when I check job postings.

>>106986717
Where do I find these job postings? I'm out of the loop since I worked through some online service while having access to local jobs but it died after COVID and I had a longer contract. Are any of these contract/b2b type jobs or is it mostly permanent/yearly contract?
>>106986684
I exaggerated for comedic effect.

>>106986717
>>106986684
>>106986620
To be fair to canada (doesnt deserve it, i know) theres a fuckton of jeets around, but ive never met one in tech, i've never met one randomly outside of work who happened to work in tech, and what few tech workers I know don't complain about it. all the jeets are occupying either low wage mcjobs making pizza or doing delivery app nonsense (reverse financed by their high caste importers who bought up all the fast food franchises ofc) or are working high-wage but blue-collar shit like trucking or skilled trades work. Canada itself is jeeted up, but tech in Canada isn't, at least from what I can see.

After all, how can you jeet up an industry that doesn't even exist?

Maybe if I lose 20 lbs, I can get a gf/wife with a corpo job that would be ok with my low paying job

Why is it not recognised as insane that hundreds of people are applying to one job? Why can't we create enough jobs?

>>106987048
Number is going up, bro.

>>106987048
We as a culture really need to start exalting the importance of banding together to create new businesses and enterprises.The only limiting factor for creating new little local economies is having land to get food and water from but we're producing enough of that currently just need to think of something to make to trade the potato farmers and piss filterers in exchange for potatoes and clean water.

>>106987048
For context: this job was posted at midnight and it's just past 8am local time now. 100+ applications by 8am.

>>106987106
>start exalting the importance of banding together to create new businesses and enterprises.
every time I have tried this it has gone so poorly it appeared to be a trap in hindsight and I have no reason to believe this isn't yet another trap

>>106987118
If you're lucky, it's jeets and the owner is racist. If you're not it's eastern europeans.

>>106980417 (OP)
Where the fuck are the links and previous thread?

>>106980417 (OP)
>bing bing wahoo is trad
Convinced employers are making /utwg/ worse as a psyop.

I don't think this company wants to hire me

>>106987700
You should change your ethnicity when applying.

I went back to school, for a CS degree. Hopefully I get it by next semester.
Half my classes are online. I'm older than most of my classmates, while seem too busy, aren't social, or stick to their groups from other classes.

>>106983046
>>106983053
>>106983120
>>106983231
Who has debt, especially with a degree?

>>106983979
These are the people who laugh at the FBI for saying they can't get a job if they smoke weed?

>>106987048
I'm sure only 10% of applicants are qualified, even more so if it's a remote job.

Just got fired what now?
How do I prevent this from ruining my life?

>>106987778
>I went back to school, for an MBA
makes sense to me.

>>106987700
Is that Deloitte?

>>106987868
Do what everyone else does, lie about your experience and apply for more jobs. If you don't feel like firing out resumes, go out to tech meetups and make friends. Somebody ought to have something going on somewhere, even if it's just a contract to patch up some dingy WordPress site.

>>106987893
no just some bank you've never heard about

learn a trade?

>>106987918
My wife is a doctor, she's probably gonna be disappointed if she sees someone who used to make 100k in consulting suddenly plumb toilets or drive Ubers.

>>106987937
Learn to plumb in Jamaica.

Humiliation ritual

>>106987894
The only way I know how to apply is by making a CV of 5 pages with all my projects and work experience as well as skills on it and then along with a mostly AI generated cover letter, throwing it at every job I see.
Is that the wrong way to do it?

>>106987954
dios mio

>>106987955
Is the email I send to the company I'm applying to technically a cover letter? Or is it supposed to be some humiliation where you lick the company's bungahole and that's why you want the job?

I've honestly only sent 2 CVs in my life and rest was nepotism or online job platforms. How much shit am I going to eat applying to a new job?

DEFEND THIS

>>106987954
HUEHUEHUEHUE BRBRBRBRBR

>>106987997
You_are_too_old

>>106987954
That's spanish.
>>106987982
>Or is it supposed to be some humiliation where you lick the company's bungahole and that's why you want the job?
This is the last paragraph of every AI generated cover letter so it's a bad idea to include it.

>>106987997
That want to underpay you but they fear you'll leave as soon as you find a better opportunity.

>>106987997
There are people who create a new CV for every job.
They just delete everything unrelated so it looks like they're the perfect candidate.

>>106988022
>spanish
That's Brazilian, retard

>>106988022
I don't use AI. I'm still coding in fucking vim because I can't be bothered with bloat. Debating whether I should bother with tech or just go doordashing or some shit. I don't need much money now.

>>106987455
Maybe if you werent retarde you would get job ?

>>106988051
are you rich?

>>106988048
>Brazilian

>>106987954
hehe testes

>>106988051
I doordash and its so dead i get like 2 orders an hour and make no money dont do it bro

business idea: whoredash

>>106988098
Onlyfans already exists.

>>106988102
That's not at all like a whoredash concept

>>106988078
No I have only $10k saved up but I own the cuckshed I live in + heating, electricity and food is really cheap. My only major planned expenses are gunz and a new deck for my house.

>>106988085
Yes.
No one gives a shit about Poortugal

>>106987954
>>106988089
>Teste
Mexicans have to show their balls to get hired...

I don't know what's killing the tech industry. I'm european and we don't have as many indians so I don't know why you can't get jobs in tech anymore here. I have no idea why there is tech unemployment here.

One thing I've noticed is that you're not allowed to get into an international company. If you speak the local language you will not get hired for an english speaking role which means you will never get into the big 4, you will never get into Accenture, you will never get into any company where they have job applications in english. You have to apply to jobs that are in the local language. Who is getting the english jobs? Germans, spanish, east europeans or indians who don't speak our language gets to do that. No idea why this is the case. Are those foreigners more skilled than us? 100% sure they are not.

What are we supposed to do? Everyone I know is relegated to low paying government jobs where nothing happens and nobody learns anything and everyone speaks the local language. A few months of this and you'll never get into a good company.
Our careers are destroyed so germans, french, swedes, indians and balkans can take all the good jobs.

Show us your testes and MexicANO

What if the jobs never come back?
What are we tech priests going to do?
How do we work on our sacred machines?

>>106988092
Not him but I was at the unemployment office today to check in. It's my third month. I asked him for a job and he said there's always service jobs out there. Then I asked him if he meant Walmart and then he said yes.

>>106983979
Suspect that he gets penetrated quite a bit.

got an interview next week bros

>>106988188
Im going to be honest i have no clue how anyone even gets minimum wage jobs.. they never get back to me when i apply online and when i go in person i get told to apply online

seriously even Walmart idk how people get that job

>>106988098
That's just tinder, where they pay YOU in aids

>>106988157
>Are those foreigners more skilled than us? 100% sure they are not.
Considering how fast eastern europe advanced their government tech (functional digital ID that don't leak too much PII, online gov paperwork etc.) I'd say they might actually be either on-par/better or just a little worse but cheap enough. You don't really get good government services unless the people working eastern euro gov salaries are skilled and that's only gonna happen if skill is abundant. Probably also to do with the (now dying) eastern euro work ethic.

>>106980654
If its clearance job, just work the required years and gtfo soon as its fulfilled. Your pay will double with any contract company worth its salt and still protect you from cock sucking that goes on in private sector.

>>106987918
What's a trade with a low barrier of entry that's related to this field so the experience isn't trashed?
My dad will even help start a business but I don't want my experience to go to waste

>>106988564
>What's a trade with a low barrier of entry that's related to this field so the experience isn't trashed?
tech support

>>106988589
Impossible and not a trade

>>106988618
how about I "trade" your mouth for a stew of flesh and teeth

>>106988701
I already have 10k saved up (not that other guy). So I don't need money from gay for pay, I need a career.

>Months of nothing
>Then suddenly 3 calls in one day asking for interviews
The fuck is going on? I thought october/November was the worst period for job hunting.

Should I write all my code so modular that I can fit all of them in jest or nah?

>>106988564
Electrician, Lineman, Mechanic. Its close enough to tech in terms of problem solving and if you work deiseal/aircraft/boats for a mechanic job you can make good money. Electrician you need to go to a trade school and generally most mechanics learn on the job. Lineman is on the job training with much better starting pay than both however.

basically wasted 2 days i could have been doing real work going to a retarded personality and conflict type training at work. made me so happy i dont have to work with women.

>>106980541
be sure to lock down all newports

>>106989177
>I thought october/November was the worst period for job hunting.
why do people say that again

>>106989636
From what I heard, it is because they are winding down for the year in the lead up to Christmas.
Logically though, it would be a good time for hiring so that they can start when the business open up again in January.

>>106989177
they probably had laid some people off, then realised AI couldn't quite replace them.

>>106989636
Hiring budgets are used up in companies that have annual calendar-aligned budgets

are jeets just copying my coursework or is it recruiters/technical people actually looking it over...

>>106989790
whats that

>>106989964
people who've cloned a specific repo of mine

>>106989990
whats your repo

>>106990000
y'all will clown my shitty ass github ;_;

>>106990029
At least say what it does if not the link

>>106990029
nyo....

Just one more day of javascript to finish the 50 hour udemy javascript course then I can finally move on to the 40 hour node.js course.

>>106990053
bruv...

>>106987954
i'm considering starting medical school so i can become a dentist and then i could open my own shop
these HR vermin are on the same level as politicians, both belong on the deepest, most agonizing level of hell, words can't describe how hard they should be tortured

>>106990053
bwo...

Junior cs major here, the only guys I know with internships are DEI or nepos, my girlfriend broke up with me today, I'm dirt broke and getting rejected from the same jobs I had in HS, its so fucking over fuck

>>106990053
buwu...

>>106990176
i got my bachelors years ago, haven't put it to use so far, welcome to the party :D

That's it I'm moving to Brazil

>>106990187
>>106990176
GENTLEMEN

>>106990187
What's the move? Go to india for offshored positions? Join ice for the signing bonus? Already graduated is rough I hope you don't have too much debt but fuck man

>>106990176
I followed every company on linkedin over this shit. everytime someone is posting "whoa just got my job!!!" it was some type of DEI. White men don't do that shit or don't get hired.

>>106990206
Its full fuck off.

>>106990224
>Go to india for offshored positions
Let me tell you about WITCH

>>106990234
I'll fuck all your big bunda women

>>106990229
One black dude with an internship I had a group project with, even for the writeups he just copy pasted everything from chatgpt, didn't even bother to change the formatting or font. The other is my roommate, he has bad gpa and chatgpt doing all his assignments too and has no clue how tech works but is getting job offers tossed at him. Comes from money too. I don't harbor resentment towards either but holy shit

>>106990234
>Its full
Yeah no kidding

>>106990265
>didn't even change the formatting
bro should've been failed for being so retarded.

>>106990206
just move to the south of the country and you're good. it's not that bad.

>>106990271
Least obvious CIA psyop. You are gonna tell me that anyone there would let someone else live right next to them? No problem at all?
Those favellas are literally baby farms/gollum factories

>>106990323
Sul is filled with bichas

>>106990339
They spend alot of time killing each others over the next pair of unworn jordans.

>>106990455
Their children are truly the future of that country

>>106980486
Good shit my nigga
I'm still printing out names for the shit wall

>>106980552
Fucking nice. I keep thinking about applying to a local government job. Money is decent enough.

>>106980417 (OP)
Unemployed Total War General?

>Something worth mentioning is that client does not only wants someone who can do what's requested, but also to work towards scalability and go above and beyond. We give 48 hours for people to work on a solution they feel comfortable with while also allowing some room to breathe while dealing with day to day stuff.
THE DOCUMENT YOU SENT ME SAID 24 HOURS
YOU SENT IT AT MIDNIGHT ON A SATURDAY
AAAAAAHHHHH

I got an interview as investement banker later on, but I don't know shit about. I don't even know wtf they do. My CV doesn't have anything about finance or money either, just randomly applied and they called me. Any tips?

>>106990798
Unironically ask Chatgpt about it

>>106990798
you are bullshitting lmao IB is sought after finance job that kids from UPen get picked up for wtf

damn nigga kids from target schools would love to be in your position

>read reddit posts from 2/3 years ago
>"if you are from a top uni and have a top grades you are set"

How did everything go to shit so quickly bros...

>>106990825
i dont get it isnt this still true? go to top school get good gpa and like 3 internships you will get kinda easily because of school and grades?

then get a return offer from Meta, google, amazon etc etc

>>106990835
>and like 3 internships
About that...

With certain timelines I have about applications, I think I might be in a pickle. I got one job that wants me to start ASAP (If I pass interview next week) while my dream job is doing interviews in November for a Feb start. How should I navigate this? The first job isn't bad but I hate leaving people on the hook and the dream job is just better for me.

>>106990864
The market is fucking trash right now, grab onto whatever is in front of you.

Life with a job and money still sucks btw

>>106991159
Not as much as being a broke NEET

My senior class college interest now has a boyfriend, they both work corporate probably six fig jobs, and bought a house and I'm still a loser with not a lot of cash flow and living with my parents.

>>106991301
Being a broke neet is much better.

>>106991320
What's your job?

>>106991321
Hell no being poor is seriously the worst thing ever

>>106991325
writing shitty c# code and dicking around in their aws account

>>106991331
At least you got a job.

How the hell do people even get interviews for FANG without being referred or going to a target school

These jobs must get literally a hundred thousand applicants per posting lol

>>106991361
I applied to all and not a single one even moved me to the first step :(

>>106991379
Dude yeah like imagine worldwide country wide how many ppl apply to these jobs omg maybe it’s even a million+ hahah

>>106991390
I read that MS had like 100k this year or last year to the point that they had to cancel the whole thing because it would have cost too much going to process of picking the candidates.

Is Netflix really that big to be put on the same group as Apple, Meta, Google and Amazon?

>>106980486
>and you need to be a US citizen.
I identify as a US citizen, let me in

>>106992967
He could have become the new CEO, like Bowser in Nintendo

>>106990798
I FUCKED UP BROS. It was going well, but I was leaning too much on my CS and coding background. In the end I asked for some feedback and he was saying nice things but in the middle of it he also said that my skills would probably be best suited in another role in the company. It's over, another day of unemployement.

>>106993160
Can't you just try take a job in the meantime and try to get more info from the guys already there about how to move into the one you want?

GM Saars, please consider my needful.
I have a cousin that looks like literal Superman (Tom Welling edition) and he's always had a horrible time with employment, despite having a master's degree. He's had long stretches of NEETdom or wagie work like Whole Foods. I think his issue is he's too white/attractive to be in the leftyspace his degree is in. Or being way more attractive than the average worker triggers cockblocking behavior.
For whatever reason, he likes India and gets work over there easily. Since everyone is trying to flee that country, here's an idea - What if I tried to do a 1 year stint at a FAGMAN in India? My cousin is Just Like Me FR and goes from dalit in the states to Ultra Brahmin with one plane ticket.

>>106993281
If he offers something of course I'm getting it, it's a huge bank. But I've been in enough interviews to know they don't actually follow up with that shit.

Tips on confidently lying in an interview without making it obvious or making it seem like you're trying to hard? I have one coming up shortly and turn into a mess whenever I have to bullshit about some things. I don't know how others do it.

>>106994084
Always pretend you are going into a fight/interview like you lost so the best way to handle it is wing it.

>>106994084
Admit when you don't know something and ask questions about it, lying is very transparent unless you are interviewing for public sector work where everyone is retarded

How are people handling the greater emphasis on AI popping up in job descriptions? I'm kind of at a loss as to what people want and I'm not sure they know either. Just basic competency using copilot or similar to assist with coding?

>>106994245
>normally you have to google something and search through links to find answer to your question
>LLMs parse through all that and present the information to you in a conversational format
>Gee, isn't it great!

Something like that right?

>>106989790
Bots, chinks and pajeets

>>106991361
I randomly had a recruiter offer me an interview for Google but I turned it down because they wanted me to move to Poland, yet I attended a shitty university.
I guess it’s just random. Don’t try to make sense of the recruiting practices.

>>106994414
You just turned down the horniest women in the planet.

Good job

>>106994460
polish women are filled with gnashing gears

>>106980486
>>106980486
good shit anon. i myself just signed a new offer letter yesterday. I am going to be a Senior Data Engineer for 150K a year remote

>>106980595
>>106980595
I just left the Air Force civil service as a GS-13 2210. You would have to be a fucking braindead retard to join up with the Feds now.

>be shitty middle management
>suffer for years
>boss demands more work with less people
>workers fuck me over and demand a thank you because they know I cant replace them
>have to keep these fucks because there is nothing on the market
>only absolute trash applies for open positions
>free money dries up
>shitty fake companies die
>suddenly get five applications per day
>people with actual skills are applying again
>people with job titles above mine suddenly want grunt work
>just fired two free loaders because I found their replacements
feels good to be back lads

>>106994506
>150K
>remote
That sounds like peak comfy. How do you get those kinds of jobs when those positions are usually being application spammed to death?

>>106980417 (OP)
what's the fucking point of spending the last 4 years in uni when I can't even score an interview???

>>106994677
The job market is dead. If you weren't retarded, you'd create a startup and hire whites only.

>>106995100
>The job market is dead.
Free yourself from the news cycle, its killing you.

>>106995202
Yeah it's only good for jeets and dei browns

>>106995202
The news is saying the complete opposite, that nothing is wrong and young people just need to stop buying starbucks coffees and avocado toast

>8 people in the interview teams meeting
felt like I was on trial

>>106995701
Wow, why so many?

>>106995714
that's what I'm wondering, only 3 did most of the speaking though so maybe the others were just management listening in

>>106995511
Oh cmon you know what I mean. Breaking news. What is it. Layoffs. Oh, what else?.....Even MORE layoffs. MASSIVE layoffs.
You see? The truth is that we all earn our keep by praying to this machine called Nimrod System, and it can be turned against it, or even destroyed, in a moment's notice.
And you are gonna torture yourself over this? What an idiot.

>>106994520
did you take the musk route? I don't envy new hires with trump putting probational employees put on the chopping block

Anyone have experience working with dataannotation? They seem sketchy and I don't want to give them my ID but obviously I would have to give any place I work some identification so it's not like it's weird they are asking

>>106996145
I haven't heard back from them, so I just assumed they're a jeet scam

I applied to something on October 1st.
Linkedin is telling me that they looked at my application TODAY
the fuck

>>106996145
Is it just mechanical turk work?

>>106996145
I had an interview with an "AI startup" one that was super sus and reminded me of those Facebook content moderator farms, so I asked if any of the content I would view would be disturbing or psychologically harmful (knowing I wasn't getting the job anyway). The interviewer nonchalantly replied "Oh, we have a staff psychologist you'll have regular checkups with."

>>106994084
You have to convince yourself that it is the rightful thing to do. It's all about the midset. Think about how everyone is lying, and the ones that aren't, aren't getting any jobs.

>>106994267
But google has became hot shit, that's why llm's are a thing.

>>106996145
>We are looking for a Game Developer to join our team to train AI models. You will measure the progress of these AI chatbots, evaluate their logic, and solve problems to improve the quality of each model.

Sounds like a jeet scam

>>106996145
I saw they flooding indeed and figured it's a jeet scam.

>Jeff Bezos will be replacing 600,000 jobs at Amazon with robots. His vision: fully automate operations.
>Amazon's not alone. That's the direction of every major corporation.

Soon you won't even be able to put the fries in the bag.

>>106997088
I got approved so it might be scam but not that

>>106997240
It sounds like I would be creating prompts (related to python) and evaulating the responses of chat bots. Assumingly they want to hire as many people as possible to produce datasets of tricky questions with answers for training

>>106997534
Looked at their page on indeed and there's lots of reviews didn't see anyone complaining that they got screwed so feel a bit better about that.

Database Management done. Just four more classes to go and then back to college for the fourth time with just 17 classes to go (after I find a part time job desu).

I turn 30 in 2 months and i am jobless

being jobless this old is very depressing. I will start a youtube channel or kms

>>106997752
There's literally no physical reason you cant just treat your 30s like your 20s besides a measly 5% increase that your children are autistic (assuming you marry someone in your age bracket)? Theres no difference anon.

Where are you guys finding recruiters?

>>106998189
Recruiters? What's that?

>>106998189
>>106998356
do you not even get the linkedin ai spam bots? and if you sign up for indeed it's a steady stream of spam for jobs you're obviously woefully underqualified for and dont want anyway

>>106980486
Same, except it is doing hardware description at a big sillicon company. Pretty cool, although frustrating sometimes, but I cannot complain since I work on RTL, unlike verification guys.

>>106988098
Wait, that's actually a brilliant idea.

>>106998365
I do, but I mostly get from "people" selling me certificates, not job offerings

>unfortunately, we have...
over and over again

>>106998821
maddening isnt lol im at 250 applications of 249 of them being this unfortunately bullshit.. I hate it even more when they say they will consider me for other positions in the rejection email like why fucking lie you cunts.

1 interview in 250 applications fuck me

>>106998841
>250 applications of 249
you got all these rejections?
I WISH I got this many, 90% of my applications are just completely ghosted

>>106998841
If it's any consolation, I spent years complaining and then randomly got a real job. Supposedly real. I dunno what else to tell you. It's a shit market, has been forever, and all you can do is keep trying.

>>106998879
thanks anon and congrats on the job! I will keep applying and hopefully i find something
>>106998852
well i was exaggerating but not all of them responded back most do though

>>106998879
post more sexy robots

>>106998365
I have not gotten anything from linkedin and spam emails indeed is not a recruiter. But someone I was talking to who is upper management said he gets most his employees through recruiters and would highly suggest I find one. I have no idea where they are though. Googled them and sent my resume to one ~ a month ago and never heard back

>>106998852
>90% of my applications are just completely ghosted
If they haven't sent me a rejection email, I choose to believe they are taking a long time there decision. Any month now

>>106998916
This is true when it comes to glowie jobs, it took a year to hear communication from an application I did.

>>106998907
linkedin has bots so thats shocking. and indeed has "recruiters" doing the same sort of mass mailing, I regularly get ones that have a (supposed) name attached and sometimes looking it up gets a hit for other social media.
>he gets most his employees through recruiters and would highly suggest I find one.
i have never heard this. everyone I know who is employed outside of min wage mcjobs either Knew A Guy or was otherwise connected and was a pretty much direct hire not through a third-party recruiter, or applied randomly through your average portal like Indeed or Careerbeacon or even fucking Monster and just kinda got it.

even I'm in the latter category, where I'm at now was a random Indeed click I only even sent something in for just to see what would happen

>>106998903
let's just kill the messenger

>recruiters
Just like in the hit korean drama "My Mister"? Where the Female Lead and his foster father both are part of this recruiting (pyramic scheme) companies, and their CV's get sent to other companies?

>>106998959
IDK, I'm pretty niche background so maybe I don't match any bots' lists or something. That could be due to few people knowing to use recruiters. This guy liked them a lot and said they were great at matching candidates to positions. With the potential downside that they cost the company money so they may only work with bigger companies where the fee is pocket change to them

>>106999011
>IDK, I'm pretty niche background so maybe I don't match any bots' lists or something.
fair enough but remember that a KPI for recruiters is number of applicants provided, and actual placements is usually ignored. recruiters are not there to help you, even if they were there to help anyone at all (they arent) they are there to help job providers, not job seekers.

just keep churning through Indeed and Careerbeacon i guess; like i said, it's how I landed my sorta-real gig and it's even at a high fallutin' defence contractor

>>106983979
No.

My entire team it's a bunch old school boomers from the depth south.

tech jobs where I get a free .50 Beowulf pistol?

>>106999037
I guess but it looks bad on them if they provide low quality canidates and I'm not forced to take any position. I got my last job through either linkedin or indeed too but regardless the more real humans at hiring company who actually look at my resume the better. Recruiters have an in and even bias the reviewer because they (the recruiter) thought I was a good fit.

>>106999146
>I guess but it looks bad on them
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but actual performance has not mattered to most jobs in the west for a long time.

>>106980417 (OP)
It's over anons. LLMs are passing the Sneed test

I know you guys probably get this question a lot and it's annoying, but...

What kind of tech job can you get without a degree? Even just 35-40k/year code monkey jobs, I don't care. I'm poor as fuck. Also, are there any 2-3 year diplomas worth looking into?

>>106999300
>What kind of tech job can you get without a degree?
I spent a decade in the armed forces as a part-timer and more recently got a job at a defence contractor. Before that, I washed dishes.

>>106999339
I'm in Canada and in my 30s. You think it might be worth joining the Armed Forces? Even as a Private?

>>106983530
This is why I gave up on using AI ever and disable it in every IDE I use.

I had a hardcoded sector size for reading disc images and it "corrected" it without me noticing and sent me on a wild goose chase trying to fix bugs that didn't exist before it finally caught the change *it* made and gave me a lecture about how I was wrong about the size of mode 2 disc image sectors... I know I fucking typed 2352 bytes for sector size.

>>106999477
Causes more problems than it helps. I'll strictly not let it be used in the IDE. I want to use it, copy and paste in a browser and check what it did

>>106999348
you always start off as a private, even if you have other training. you can "PLAR" after basic and i think at least your first trades course but there's no trades where a coding bootcamp stands in for anything, afaik.

On the off chance you're not trolling me, go navy or air and get an NCM technician trade. You learn a lot and while it doesnt count towards anything like a red seal, it makes one much much easier to get after having done it in the jankiest environment around for an honestly impressive wage for canuckistan for a while.

I love getting rejected by people who call themselves "Talent Acquistion Specialist" when their background is a degree in art studies.

>>106999637
I like the barometer of success for useless degrees online is always about having a job that doesn't require their degree entirely.

>>106999693
Like software engineering?

>>106980486
Mirin hard bro

>>106999826
SWE was built off of CS/EE degree anon. SWE degrees are new.

>>106999693
It fucking annoys me when I receive a rejection email from some woman who studied Leonardo da Vinci's cock for four years and tells ME I either don't have the skills or experience required for the role. I have a relevant degree and I have relevant experience. Don't bullshit me, woman. Just say you didn't do your job and ypu picked the first five resumes and discarded the rest into the trash.

>>106999888
These angry bitches get off on rejecting men and it gets worse the older they get.

>>106999888
This. They won't even give me all the admin passwords even though I WENT TO A FULL CODING COURSE WITH UDEMY and those niggers do not even have one CISSP cert.

>>107000014
You have been bitching about admin account for almost a year. Please give it up.

Why programmers don't get admin account? We are the only people who know how to use a computer anyway. It's all software-defined.

>>107000088
You don't have the time to work with thousands of customers on the daily.

I've been really getting into 9/11 for the past month. It's so cool. What's your favourite tower? Mine's the North Tower. I love its antenna, it's got so much personality! 9/11 is my favourite tragedy. I don't like that it happened, but I do like reading about it. Wow!

>>107000106
Obviously WTC 7

>>107000088
>Why programmers don't get admin account?
Because the guys in IT understand that you guys are a bunch of fucking jeets who will gleefully install malware from NPM without a second thought.

>>107000116
Why you are talking shit about NPM? You try evaluating if number is even with NPM then if you are so smart.

bros im so tired of being poor and having no money..

I NEED A JOB NOW

>>107000519
Best i can recommend is ICE. If you are a Euro then defense industry but that requires a Masters or PhD. If you are an Aussie woman then marriage fraud if you are an Aussie man then Mining.

>>107000529
this fully this trump will give you 500,000k instantly if you join ice i did it from hyderabad it is very based sir

>>107000560
No it aint that much.

>>107000591
>up to

How does one acquire MONEY? Can you actually land contracts freelancing or are they swallowed up by jeets

Tech is basically a hobby now. Maybe it's barista time.

im a digital marketer, do google and fb campaings. so i been wondering with all of these viral tiktok shit and instagram. i seen a lot of broads working marketing jobs but wtf do they actually do? its a fucking pain in the ass you need to suffer from autism to do this shit. are these broads that autistic?

>>107000871
i am too facially challenged for waitering or barista but go for it dude make some good money.

>>106985865
all jeets are scammers.

What to do if all your internship xp is in software but only doing small projects and no cloud?
I got stuck with a shitty consulting job after graduating because my degree (math) and lack of cloud xp filtered me from any dev position at the company I was interning at.
Got laid off and idk whether to go back to school for EE like I originally wanted or keep playing the lotto with this hellhole.
Should have never switched to math.
Can't even find work with the shit i was previously doing because it was just writing a bunch of sql for a super niche application that nobody uses, and the people that do use it are only hiring ppl that actually used the frontend, not backend technical ppl.
I thought internships would carry my non-CS degree but if even CS grads are struggling to get these positions then what's the point?
I just wanted to do cool robotics work.
Covid ruined that for me.

goodnight utwg hopefully we get jobs tomorrow.

>>106980417 (OP)
I'm at my worst mental I've been in in years bros and I don't have anyone to vent to

you're unemployed because american workers cost too much to hire. its going to continue until wages rise in other countries, wages fall in the US, or robots actually take all the jobs.

>CS fags are all pivoting into EE
oh yeah it's cool dude. i didnt want a job anyway. yeah just fuck all my shit up dude. fuck the entire field up who even cares anymore

>>107001525
Lmfao
but EE is definitely safe