Thread 106996175

why dont other DEs have this?
this is absolutely necessary for a laptop so you can use it in tiling on the go and nontiling when running it docked/with multiple screens and a mouse.
i keep going back to check out cosmic because of this feature but cosmic still crashes and leaks memory so its still not good enough for prime time but the moment it's stable im switching. why the fuck dont gnome/kde/cinnamon have this?

This is basically a tiling wm except with wasted space everywhere, but I'm not judging.
I purposefully use dwm with desktop icons, I dedicate the first workspace as empty so I can look at them, some people would call this an abomination.

>>106996372
my image shows default fresh cosmic (fedora 43 cosmic atomic) with the only changed option being the tiling being turned on. you can reduce gaps between windows and remove the bottom dock/top panel.

im just saying this is way better than the default for gnome/kde

>>106996175 (OP)
this looks okay but as a dwm enjoyer let me give you a bit of tiling autism:

1. make the dock on the bottom hideable. otherwise you're just wasting space. the top bar is fine since it's thin and spans the entire screen. but the bottom one is wasting so much which especially matters on a laptop
2. why does the top right window have square corners while the rest have round? i like square myself but please make them either all round or all square
3. that same window also doesnt have the gray border the other ones do. make sure all your windows have the same border except for the focused one. the focused one should be a different color so you can instantly tell it apart at first glance. for this purpose i make my borders a bit thick, 3-4px, and gaps no more than 5px. i use gray for the normal borders and a nice yellow for the focus to make it pop, but as long as it's different it's fine.
4. not sure if yours does this already, but when there's only one window on the screen, it should have no gaps or border. since you don't need to tell it apart from any other windows

also iirc kde has this, it's what i would fo on my laptop but eventually i realized wrangling full DEs to do tiling wasn't worth it when i never really need to do anything substantial on my laptop. just basically open a browser and a terminal, sometimes an editor, and always for a pretty short time. in that case stacking windows is fine so i don't bother anymore.

>>106996175 (OP)
Why does every designer think Fisher Price toy look is aesthetic and functional? Just because it's rounded doesn't mean it's sleek, quite the opposite.
I wonder what sort of psychosis is affecting everyone.

>>106996810
I mean some degree of roundness okay that's viable but going all 3 exponents is just retarded.

>>106996175 (OP)
Because stable DEs aren't built for your particular strain of autism, anon. The moment something's 'absolutely necessary' it's bloat for the lowest common denominator, which is why your bleeding-edge toy leaks like a sieve.

>>106996810
Forty years ago Steve Jobs had a meltdown over the QuickDraw libraries not supporting rounded corners. The developers told him he was being a big baby, so he loaded them up in a van and drove around pointing out all the things they thought were rectangles actually had rounded corners. It's been part of UI faggotry ever since.

>>106996949
why would it matter if the real world had no real rectangles? Rounded rectangles still look bad.

>>106997596
You'll have to pull out the Ouija board and ask Steve why he liked rounded corners so much. Every designer wants to be an Apple fag so whatever Apple does is what the design world does. To them, Apple is the definition of good design.

>>106996175 (OP)
why not just launch a different DE depending on what you need?

>>106996779
>1. make the dock on the bottom hideable. otherwise you're just wasting space
it is, this is just stock freshly-installed cosmic

>>106996810
idk i think rounded corners is nice but kde-level of rounding not gnome level. cosmic allows you like 3 options iirc

i uninstalled it and switched my laptop back to kde\fedora kinoite so i cant check rn

>>106996175 (OP)
>why don't other DEs have this?
Have what, exactly? What functionality are you missing?

>>106996779
>1. make the dock on the bottom hideable.
it's configurable. the panel too.
>2. why does the top right window have square corners while the rest have round?
it's a non-cosmic app that uses csd; probably gtk. they're working right now in the compositor to automatically control the borders through a custom protocol.
>3. that same window also doesnt have the gray border the other ones do. make sure all your windows have the same border except for the focused one. the focused one should be a different color so you can instantly tell it apart at first glance.
already works like this. color and thickness are configurable.
>4. not sure if yours does this already, but when there's only one window on the screen, it should have no gaps or border. since you don't need to tell it apart from any other windows
yeah, it still renders the border and applies the gap, unless the windows is maximized or full-screened. doesn't personally bother me.
>also iirc kde has this, it's what i would fo on my laptop but eventually i realized wrangling full DEs to do tiling wasn't worth it when i never really need to do anything substantial on my laptop. just basically open a browser and a terminal, sometimes an editor, and always for a pretty short time. in that case stacking windows is fine so i don't bother anymore.
this is why it's great. you have 3 modes: floating, tiling and stacking. stacking works with both, floated and tiled windows + workspaces. i use cosmic daily and for the most part i'm in the floated mode in like two main workspaces, but there's occasionally scenarios where i need more complex window management. so i start to gradually activate stacking and tiling as the complexity growth.

>>106997961
tiling
when i launch a new window splitting my existing window instead of putting a floating window on top

>>106996175 (OP)
>i keep going back to check out cosmic because of this feature but cosmic still crashes and leaks memory
i daily drive it already for month and have no crashes (and i'm on nvidia). there's a very small memory leak somewhere in the vram, but you would need to have an uptime of at least 3 weeks to grow it to something like 1gb.

>>106996175 (OP)
god it looks so fucking bad

>>106998001
Like automatically? That sounds like absolute ass. It puts a new floating window on top, and if you actually want that window to persist (e.g. it's not just there for a quick operation or something that can be minimized afterward) you just slot it in somewhere with a quick mouse/track pad gesture.

Damn what the fuck, it sounds like a huge pain in the ass for my windows to be resized and rearranged any time a new window pops up. Why the fuck would someone want this?

>>106998151
the whole point is not touching their position/size it just split's the current active window and adds the new one

>>106998330
The only window in the OP pic that could be split without ending up with two windows so small they're completely unusable is the settings app, which would never open a new window anyway.

Absolute key jangling bullshit ass feature for completely imaginary user workflows.

Anon, you need to learn to use multiple desktops if this is such an issue for you.

>>106996175 (OP)

Cosmic tiling is a GNOME extension.

>>106997782
it is.

>>106997782
it used to be.

>>106996949
>>106997596
>>106997782
USE CASE FOR ROUNDED RECTANGLES?