Thread 106999808

UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 217, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 9600X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB / 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Used GPU between $100-$250
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
High-end 4K & Workstation: RTX 5090

>PSU
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106994945

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
265k, 285k, and 9800X3d getting new oc'd variants soon
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Everyone talks about the taskbar burn in with OLED but I've never understood the problem. Are you not having it auto hide until you mouse over it? Why would you want half inch of your screen space stolen from you when you don't need it 99% of the time?
If anything the top quarter of the browser should be a much bigger worry. I've got a browser open all day and the top part is all one static image. It's much more annoying to hide as well. Yet I never see anyone even mention it. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills but I can't be the only one who has noticed this right?

>>106999862
having to mouse over first makes finding what you want take longer

>>106999902
First week using a pc huh? Well better late than ever I guess. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it soon enough.

>>106999902
The super key has a purpose, you know.

>>106999920
oh so now I have to press a key too

Concise GPU and CPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>>106999929
No you just have to use your pc for more than 2 days and your hopefully functioning brain will remember where the handful of symbols are. If this is something you struggle with I'm not sure you should be allowed on the internet unsupervised.

Where is the psu in the OP?

>>106999808 (OP)
I removed my intel frame to put in a contact frame and some faggot back plate just fell into the innards of my PC. I need to take the thing apart to get it fucking cunt.

>>106999808 (OP)
my bootleg deathadder essential cant be detected by its software
the previous one bootleg I had used to be detected lol
can I at least adjust dpi without synapse/software?

>adjust from the control panel
that is sensitivity not dpi baka

>>106999808 (OP)
Why are smol mATX cases so hard to find? Like 15x15x7 mini towers. HP made a lot that size but they're stupid looking.

Why do most motherboards have four RAM slots when two sticks seems to be the norm?

>>106999808 (OP)
Hi, fags,

My retired parents have an HP EliteDesk 800 G2 without a discrete graphics card, but le dad decided to relive the old days and run some AutoCAD/ProEngineer/Inventor/some-shit-I-dunno, and now he needs a GPU. What’s the format of graphics cards that’ll actually fit in his case (pic related)?

Also, today I bought this, so tell where I fucked up:

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 5070 Ti OC Edition 16GB GDDR7 TUF-RTX5070TI-O16G-GAMING
SAMSUNG 990 PRO 2TB SSD, PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280
MSI MAG CoreLiquid E240 Black - AIO ARGB
GIGABYTE X870 GAMING WIFI6 AM5 LGA 1718, ATX, DDR5, 3x M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB4, WIFI 6, 2.5GbE LAN
CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series Granite Ridge (Zen 5) 12-Core 4.4 GHz - Socket AM5 120W - Radeon Graphics Processor - 100-100000662WOF

>Finally ordered all parts for PC
>Everything OK
>AIO... is wrong and is even sent refurbished
Why... does Amazon do this to me anons? Am I this retarded? Let's go full retard, I'm running a 9800X3D and a 5090, let's say I build it while I wait for the correct AIO to come in two weeks now... How bad would that be? Please help this retard before he breaks something...

>>107000045
>use 2 slots
>it's fine for 10 years
>use the other 2 slots
>it's fine for another 10 years
t. i7-3770 appreciator

>>106999808 (OP)
what case is that

>>107000167
Why would it take 2 weeks to get something from amazon? What AIO did you order? How do you know it's refurbished?

>>107000167
>>AIO... is wrong and is even sent refurbished
Wrong how..? Wrong socket mount, or just not exactly what you wanted? Replacing AIO is no more difficult than installing it.

>>106999969
Use the buying guide, PSU prices fluctuate, and they're on a rising trend.
If you can't decide, Corsair RMx PSUs are safe and of high quality.
There are OEMs like Super Flower, FSP, and SeaSonic if you want to cut the middleman.

Praise the omnissiah, the new build posted.

>>107000045
It's mostly a quirk with DDR5, four DDR5 slots are much harder to run for the CPU's memory controller compared to DDR4.
Fully populating four DDR4 slots wasn't as detrimental.
Things might get better with Zen6.

Any tips for custom LOOPS

Hi /pcbg/
I’m finalizing the parts list for my first build and would appreciate some insight from people who know more than I do.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCv89
Budget is $3500. I live in the US, not within driving distance of a Microcenter. Primarily for gaming (though I care much more about performance than ray tracing), video editing, and streaming. I’m aiming for 1440p.
A couple key concerns of mine are the PSU and airflow. I want to make sure my PC will never draw more power than mu PSU can supply, but I think I’ve gone overboard with the one I’ve chosen. I’m also much more comfortable with air cooling than liquid cooling - I’ve never used a liquid cooler before and am concerned about maintainence costs, which is why I’ve elected to go with air cooling, but I’m worried about the fans I’ve selected being either poor value or ineffective for the components I’ve selected.
I’d also like to ask for advice on choosing a case. Looks are secondary to airflow for me. I’m currently torn between the Meshify 2 and Torrent, but I’m open to recommendations, especially if they perform better.

>Bought 9070xt cuz Im a compfag cs2 nigger and fell for the anti lag meme
>Get constant stutters and crashes no matter which driver version and even with reinstalled windows
>Days of troubleshooting and no fix
>Switch to 5070 ti
>Locked 240hz and the frametime graph is literally a straight line
Well that was a week of hell but at least it's over now lmao

>>107000190
>>107000194
The package literally says Certified Refurbished Corsair, and its wrong because I checked the SKU, and its totally different from the one I got, I have to wait for the refund and then I'll order it... again

>>107000428
I ordered the CORSAIR iCUE LINK TITAN 420 RX, and got the iCUE LINK H150i RGB AIO

>>107000428
How can you afford a 5090 but can't afford to order a replacement while waiting for a refund on an AIO? Something isn't adding up.

>>107000489
>Wants cake
>And eat it too

>>107000461
I put it on my credit card in order to have breathing room and better control of my spending, rather than spending money now, I CAN buy it but I think I would rather wait and have a better control of my spendings rather than just buying one right now for the moment

>getting severe ping on my pc (4000ms)
>Wi-Fi connection
>Has not happened once in 6 months of using this thing
>All download speeds, signal strength are fine. No packet loss.

I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out what this is, I have a B650 tomahawk Wifi mobo, it's rather this or the modem.

>>107000541
why would you ever use wifi on a desktop?
are you braindead?

Why is this guy shitting on his own thread?
He's fucking with you guys by spamming old PC build questions like >>107000296
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/I%20live%20in%20the%20US%2C%20not%20within%20driving%20distance%20of%20a%20Microcenter./
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106994945/#106996323

>>107000545
Because my computer is across the room from where the modem is and I do not want a cable across my floor. it is a large living space, and I have never had this issue in the 4 years I've fucking lived here.

How about you offer troubleshooting advice instead of being a massive faggot?

>>107000557
sorry i don't help retards

>>107000557
Reinstall the WiFi drivers, check the antennas too. GL

>>107000557
point and laugh

>>107000563
>I can't help you because I'm retarded and focusing on a non issue as even on a Wi-Fi connection constant 4000ms ping is an entirely different issue*

Fixed that for you. I honestly do not understand why you fucking faggots crawl out of the woodpile whenever someone dare uses Wi-Fi. It's very clearly a router or receiver issue.

>>107000577
>non-issue
retard its your entire issue

>>107000577
Why would you expect most people on here to have esoteric mind reading knowledge of advanced wifi troubleshooting? Wifi is most of the time a problem that doesn't need to exist so people here are going to poke fun at you a little bit. Best to learn to grow a thicker skin and accept that.

hey there /pcbg/ im coming with a couple of questions. currently have a 5700, and im looking to upgrade for better gaming performance/all around nice to haves. I've been getting some sound crashing/artifacting issues in what I've been told is a RAM access issue that could also be CPU related. my options seem to be to get a 5800X3D and keep the current AM4 platform or basically start from scratch and go AM5, likely a 7600X or 9600X but possibly a 7700X/9700X.

is Ryzen 7 that much better than 5 to justify the 100-150 price increase on processor alone? I do use my computer for gaming as well as some music production and digital art. pic related is my system.

I'm kind of regretting not buying that discounted Meshify 3 case.

so what set off the guy spamming old posts over and over again?

>>107000092
That slim workstation's PSU appears to have 200W power limit.
A GTX 1050 should be the stopping point for that system.

>Also, today I bought this, so tell where I fucked up:
Probably the AIO and the 9900X.
9900X is for cost-effective workstations; they run like a slightly better 9600X in gaming.

so done with these fucking crashing issues on my 9070. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the nvidiots when my doom dark ages crashed and whole pc shut off, im rmaing and switching to a 5070 fuck it idc anymore.

>>107000708
The NicoThing knows it's unwanted here, so it's finding ways to lash out without making things too obvious for the jannies/mods.

>>107000211
And it all fit in my 4U chassis despite not carefully planning cooler height or GPU length AT ALL.

Upgraded to 9070 XT 2 days ago from a 3070ti and I have had zero issue with it, works perfectly fine.
But to be fair my brother had insane issues with his Vega 64, literally made some games unplayable with driver crashes and disgusting stutter.

>>106999808 (OP)
How can you tell the difference between old graphics cards. I just got an old pc from my parents it has a radeon x300 128MB card right now. I was looking at 1gb 4670s and i see some DDR 2 and 3 versions but I see 2 examples of both with a different layout of components. what the heck. do i get the card with more chips or what?

bros ive spotted asus strix boards going on sale in here (B850-G) it dropped to 210 usd in here and i want to get on one while its on sale but i will build my pc at the end of december , is it risky to get my motherboard now ? would we be seeing faulty mobos from strix ? which i dont wanna discover it a month later of its purchase period

>>107001135
It’s advised to test the board before the return period lapses.
Risk is low, but worst case you will have to deal with ASUS RMA.
ASUS will deny any inspection or service if that board was purchased from an unauthorized retailer.

>>107001196
thanks anon , i guess i will have to pray for it to be on sale again during christmas

>boughted $2700 in parts for a 9800x3d/5080 build
>motherboard wifi/bluetooth absolutely trash on a MSI x870 pro whatever something something
every pc component is trash built by niggers to steal my money. I'm using the network card I bought for my last pc when it's mobo wifi just died.
It's nice having a good bluetooth radio for when I've got like, VR controllers going with wireless headphones and wifi going etc etc

>>107000557
you can use a dot matrix and optical scanner loop.

MAG 275QF 27inch 180hz qhd
MAG 245F X24 24inch 240hz fhd
which one?
price different is only less than 20usd here

fuck is 180hz even enough nowadays?
but i get it
its 2025
people should get qhd

pc spec is 7500f with 4070

>>107001274
it depends on what you play , probably the 180hz one has a better hdr quality (i hope)

>>107001274
QHD

>>107001283
casual gaming
cs2,factorio, bf6, mostly stabledifusion

How far off 7500F with oc is from 9600x? I mostly just play HOI4 and Stellaris and no I wont consider x3d chips

>>107001329
7500F then upgrade to zen 6 x3d

>>107000549
AMD stands for advanced marketing devices, he's some thirdworlder getting paid to spam amd shit.

>>107001080
Idk, but the two barcodes on the left are for ddr2 cards

>>107001274
if you buy a fhd screen in almost 2026 we can't be friends sorry

so when are mods implementing account requirement to post for this board
at this rate everyone will migrate to reddit

Common wisdom is that each plug on a GPU should get its own cable. So why do GPU cables often come with two plugs?

>>107001899
because good enough is cheaper

Public service announcement: Want to improve the general? Get in touch with mods and petition them to rangeban nico. He's going to permanently kill pcbg if he isnt, I'm genuinely shocked /pcbg/ threads aren't deleted on sight yet.
Go look through the last 2 threads, asshole was nonstop spamming for like 12 hours and pretending to be different people like an actual schizophrenic because someone else created the thread and it wasn't entirely red.

>>107001928
>xir thinks the jannies give a single shit about this trash general and will listen to a "petition"
LOL

Cheapest RX9070 is 599€, RX9070XT is 699€. Is it worth paying 100€ extra for the XT?

>>107002038
at those priced you should buy 5070 or 5070 ti instead, or wait for their super versions with more vram

>>107001581
yeah it was just an example. I was asking chatgpt and basically more stuff on the board is better. you can upload a picture of the cards and the ai will look the pics and tell you which card is better, wild lol. I realized wanted a dx9 card so i found a radeon x1950 pro that was in my price range

>>107002038
in my country
>5070 - 635.02 €
>9070 - 638.60 €
>5070 Ti - 887.09 €
>9070 XT - 740.86 €
Anyone buying a 90xx card instead of the 5070 is straight up scamming themselves out of DLSS.

6% and falling because of deranged shits like nicotroon

>>107001899
Lots of cards come with more sockets than they actually need. Daisy-chained connectors let you run those cards without overspending on the PSU.

>>106999808 (OP)
Why are the OPs always made by AMDjeets? The 5070 Ti is light years ahead of the 9070 xt, especially 4k.

>>107002209
it's also a lot more expensive

>>107002224
>670€ vs 770€
>100€ for a MASSIVE performance boost with DLSS
That's literally nothing if you're already spending between 2k to 3k.

>>107002239
AMD fags will never admit DLSS is a huge factor for enthusiasts. FSR looks like fucking garbage in comparison.

>>107002239
it can be misleading if you just say dlss is the difference since fsr4 is good quality
theres more about support in games, dlss has more games covered
frame gen is 4x and better quality on nvidia
bunch of other software features. I use rtx hdr for video content every day after buying oled monitor + hdr game filters to turn sdr games into hdr with better quality than windows autohdr

>>107002239
>>107002259
I'm not a fanboy for either camp but I don't care about AI frame generation at all.

>>107002273
they're talking about upscaling not framegen you subhuman animal nigger

>>107002282
I don't care about AI upscaling either.

>>107002273
Frame Generation is niche and not majorly supported or wanted by consumers.
DLSS/FSR is about resolution upscaling first and foremost. Unironically the main benefit to RTX series cards has been DLSS. Fuck Ray Tracing and all that, it's nice but not gamechanging, while DLSS is a straight up transformative performance boost with minimal image quality degradation. DLSS Balanced 1440p runs AND looks better than native 1080p TAA.

My fans are so loud when idle.
The temps are great, don't go past 65C on anything despite heavy load but I wish idling was a bit quieter.
Also what's the best solution for bluetooth? Would a USB dongle work just fine or is there something better?

>>107002314
BT tierlist
>Motherboard onboard BT modem
>BT modem pci card
>USB BT dongle
>HUGE MASSIVE UNTHINKABLE POWERGAP
>a literal pile of shit
>not having BT at all
Dongle is fine.

>>107002038
in my country the difference is closer to 55€ on the bottom tier models of both chipsets and at that price getting the XT is a no brainer
on 100€ difference tho.... thats hard to justify
I probably would still get the XT but i dont know what your economic situation looks like

Its weird that the cheapest base model is about the same as mine but you dont have access to a 650€~ XT model and they jump straight out to 700€. So that probably means you are overpaying on the XT...
Fuck its hard, sorry i can't offer any real advice

Thoughts about pic related in 4TB? Just ordered one for 260 euro, reviews seem favourable.

>>107002209
>Why are the OPs always made by AMDjeets?
I think thats luck of the draw, amd just got a random schizo with unresolved attention issues and we all get to suffer because of that
>The 5070 Ti is light years ahead of the 9070 xt, especially 4k.
Not really on computing power or actual in game measurements. You pay the extra on the 5070TI to get the nvidia bells and whistles which may be worth it. DLSS is probably better than FSR right now, nvidia will probably actively support the 5070/TI for a lot longer, you get some path tracing... It may be worth it, but the card is not "light years ahead".
>>107002239
In my country its closer if not bang on a 150€ difference, not 100€

>>107002376
>novideo will actively support
LOL

>>107002354
Even if you exhaust the cache (approx. 442 GB on 4TB) the speed is still faster than most I/O operations would need. I have the 2TB one for 150 euro and I like it.
Temps could be a tad better but it is what it is.

would you guys say that a difference of 30 euros is worth it, between choosing a WD_BLACK SN7100 vs a WD_Black SN850X.
I want to get a 2 TB SSD, its mainly for gayming and I am not sure if those speeds are noticeable at all for me

>>107002396
No

>>107002396
Yes 30€ is nothing. Get the premium variant.

>>107002396
When gaymes say they need an SSD they generally mean SATA3 as the lowest common denominator. You'll be fine with any NVME that doesn't drop it's speed below ~600mb/s when cache is exhausted (>>107002387)

>>107002387
>>107002409
Good to know, thanks. For a while it will be my only drive with everything piled on it so this is relevant info.

>sold my 4090 for more than I paid
>bought 5090 for net $800
>did this a number of times since selling 5700XT for more than double I paid during crypto boom

git gud

>>107002532
I bought 3080 at msrp
then I keep using it until I buy 60xx gpu and keep it as a backup probably

>>107002539
when I sold the 5700XT I was thinking about the 3080 or 6800XT. I chose gaymd regretfully so made a loss when selling that. Lesson is no matter what the jewtuber shills say never go gaymd gpu if you want resell value

>>107002409
>When gaymes say they need an SSD
Half the time it also just means they didn't bother testing it without.

>>107002666
I'm sure most modern games are playable on a healthy 7200RPM mechanical drive, as in no egregious asset pop-in or falling through the world. Loading times notwithstanding.

>>107002314
Can this be fixed by adjusting the fan curve to have them spin slower at low temps?

>>107002788
Yes, go into bios and set up your fan curves

>>107002788
Thats the standard practice, yes. Its also possible that your stupid ass gay fish tank needs to have fans on 2000 rpm all day every day just so the fish inside dont overheat even on idle. We just dont know.

1440p bwos how do you see 4chan at 100% zoom? I have to really strain to read it like that. At 125% zoom it feels about the same as on my old 21.5 inch 1080p monitor.

>>107002812
the zoom exist to make things proper size

>>107002819
It also makes images look soft and upscaled instead of 1:1 pixel sharp

>>107002812
Switched from 1080p 24 inch to 1440p 27 inch recently, I use 125% scaling to feel comfy. Could do without but everything looked so tiny so zooming and booming it is. Might depend on how far you sit from the screen, I like to keep my distance.

>>107002812
1440p@27" is only slightly denser than 1080p@21.5". Native scaling should feel about the same.

>>107002969
True, but I'm sitting a bit farther away from my screen now.

>>107002973
Well I guess I'd say to move closer (or to have bought a 32"). Like the other anons said, scaling or zoom are also options. Pick your poison.

>>106999808 (OP)
what headphone amp is that?

>>106999808 (OP)
which case is this?

I want to replace my nvme C drive which is 1tb with a much larger one. Are there any good deal around for large storage nvmes?

What are the odds of Crucial 128 GB (2x64 GB) DDR5-5600 working on z790 Asus maximus hero?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nX9WHW
canada, looking to do vfio passthrough and keep this for 5 years+
planning to build the pc and then add a gfx card and more nvmes later when more $$
9070 ti the angle?

>>107003459
try to find an amazon return in like new status, that's how I snatched my wd blue 4tb nvme for less than 200€. the things had 8 hours use and no errors

>>107003466
Spec sheet says 192GB max so it'll probably need a new BIOS to handle the new 64Gb ICs. Support for them has been increasing steadily since they hit the market so you shouldn't have to wait long.

>>107003487
IDK exactly what you're going to be doing with that passthrough but the outline is solid as a gaming rig. Maybe room to trim some flab but nothing massive.

>9070 ti the angle?
Either the 9070XT or 5070Ti would pair well with that CPU. Again it'll come down to exactly what you need out of it; AMD if pure gaming or Nvidia if you want CUDA (or DLSS etc).

>have £2000 to build new pc
>spec out £2000 new pc
>refuse to buy the parts
>this has happened for 3 months now

>>107003559
That 2k isn't going to go as far the longer you wait...

Why do I absolutely have to get 6000 CL30 RAM again?

A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE

or

deepcool AG620

what do you think?
which one is better

>>107003756
ID Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE in my market place is not PWM

>>107003754
you don't buy any ram because they are double what they were months ago

>>107003559
save another 2k before buying

>>107003754
>idk what means CL and why must be 6000mhz at cl30 for an amd chip
It's not a hard rule. Just a recommendation because these DDR5 AMD CPUs are easy to run at the 6000MT/s speed, and they scale better with tighter memory timings (CL30 or under for this speed).
Pic is a portion of AMD's review guideline for their Zen 5 CPUs. Basically 6000MT/s CL30 is the performance & stability sweet spot.

This is what an anon posted a couple threads ago. Basically it seems to be that 6000/30CL means the maximum speed that guarantees stability

>>107003559
thats barely enough for the gpu anon

>>107003754
Your computer wont compute as computationaly if you dont.

What 27 inch monitor that is not OLED?
A bit expensive and there is still the danger of burn in.

I am coming from a 24 inch ViewSonic TN panel with 144hz, very low input lag and reaction time.

IPS

>glowing, low contrast, blacks are very greyish

VA

>ghosting, flickering, average reaction time and input lag

Hm, what now?

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn

This one looks like the only decent option, certainly I can get it for less than 250.

The successor has a lower score.

>>107003754
>>107003896
Patriot 6000cl30 is $54 per 16gb stick. Can't beat that performance/price ratio.

>>107003754
>>107003896
>>107004416
just buy klevv / team tcreate nigga

>>107004282
350€ in my country but the whole article paints it as the best of the "budget" monitors
it better be cause a budget 27 1440p in my world is more 200€ than 350€

>>107004548
>>107004450
https://www.newegg.com/patriot-memory-viper-elite-5-16gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl30-desktop-memory-white/p/N82E16820225357?Item=N82E16820225357

Amazon hiked up all the ram prices but not Newegg

Pretty newbie question
When builds like in pcirel have synchronized rgb fans, is that a case feature, a mobo feature, or neither?
Are all those fans connected to an extra controller that comes with the case? or does the mobo control that? or do you have to buy an adapter to control them and install that on your mobo before?

While i dont care much for how the pc looks it seems that fans with rgb are as expensive (sometimes even cheaper the fuck) than plain fans so might as well have coordinated if its about the same price.
Ty

>>107004803
There's a few ways to do it but the most flexible one would be to plug the fans, or at least the RGB headers, into a controller and that into the RGB port on the motherboard. Then you can use software to synchronise them (some controllers have presets too). FWIW, if you don't actually want RGB you can just buy the fans and leave the RGB headers unplugged; they will function as normal.

>>107004803
Usually the motherboard does all the work. You can also get dedicated ARGB controllers if you lack Mobo ports or want more control.

>>107004870
>into a controller and that into the RGB port on the motherboard
I see, i googled rgb controller pc, so it connects to the rgb port and to sata for power and just connect the fans to it
im checking those now on amazon, i see there are some that have even some wireless controllers, wouldn't go that far but probably wouldnt mind spending 10 or 12€ on getting a more basic one

>>107004922
Yeah i see, but if i end up with something like picrel that has the AIO, and 2x3 strings, and the exhaust you probably need a controller just to have enough ports as im assuming those alone would be 4 ports

Thank you boht, i have an idea now i can probably good the finer details and shit

>>107004944
>i can probably good the finer details and shit
GOOGLE the finer details

>>107003939
>>107003993
This 6000 Mhz should be the default or do I need to overclock it? Currently on AM4 and last time it was 3200 Mhz. I need to turn on XMP to get the speed but It caused BSOD and a lot of errors so I turned it off.

>>107004944
You're welcome. It's worth nothing that many cases come with a controller. Though whether it's a good deal depends on pricing and if the bundled model does everything you want.

>>107004993
It's XMP/EXPO of course. If you get errors turning it on it means your CPU memory controller sucks or youre trying to do 4 sticks all at once.

>>107001899
>>107001913
>Common wisdom
It's no longer 2008 and PSUs are either single-rail or if in multi-rail case each rail can handle way more than 200w.
As per corsair pigtailing is completely safe since the PCIe cable is rated at >300W on the PSU side

>>107004997
>if the bundled model does everything you want.
im sure it will, i just want them all to sync and not be a terribly ugly color scheme
i dont need it to rotate or switch after certain time or anything, i just dont want to end up with fans on 3 different color schemes

Honestly, I'm getting so sick of windows I might just go AMD+Linux

>>107005142
doesnt windows play anime videos smoothly enough for you

>>107005051

how bad it is if you multirail single gpu?

>>107005142
AMD + Linux is the way to go like Snapdragon ARM + Android/Linux. They fit a like a perfect glove.

>>107004663
>325€ in my country
I hate European prices so much. 250 USD should be around 215€, or at most 250€ if we consider various shipping costs and import taxes.
>>107004282
27in 1440p IPS are very good and cheap. Glowing is a small issue blown out of proportion online and contrast/blacks are okay unless you play in the dark like a caveman.
VA have shit colors and brightness.

>>107005221
Both single rail and multi rail are fine assuming you have a strong 12V. They only differ when you don't have enough amps or watts. Single rail will fail catastrophically as it's only one rail and everything is connected to it. With multi rail if one of the rails goes bad the system will shut down before disaster but this also means its more sensitive to transient spikes.

>tell friend I got some decent ram for cheap
>he wants to know what I got
>look it up
>product price increased by 33% in two weeks
what the fuck can happen in two weeks for prices to rise this much?

>>107005467

see for yourself
https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

It's been nuts and basically everyone that didn't but before september fucked up hard

>>107005467
The cartel literally telegraphed what they were going to do in the coming months/years (muh AI). Same for HDDs and probably SSDs too as well. You snooze you lose.
https://www.techpowerup.com/341207/samsung-reportedly-raises-dram-and-nand-contract-prices-up-to-30

>>107005229
USD prices tend not to include taxes, so you gotta factor that in.

why ram is getting more and more expensiveeeeee

>reeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh

>>107000735
>9900X is for cost-effective workstations; they run like a slightly better 9600X in gaming.
I dunno, mang. I saw tests and it's insignificantly worse than 7800x3d.

>Probably the AIO
Wy? Insufficient?

>>107005776
New AI data centers are eating up all the RAM, HDDs, and (maybe not quite as much?) SSDs.

>>106999808 (OP)
How did they mange to fit a watercooler in there? When I tried with 3 different mobos I always ran into clearance issues.
>>107000183
>>107003026
Lian Li A3

>>107003559
What else can you do with this money? Buy gold, buy a gun?

>>107004803
Often these fans are daisy-chain connected each to other.

>>107005802
FUCK AI AND THAT STUPID SHIT

minus

7600x
rtx 4060 ti 16gb

good?

>>107006115
depends on things

>want an lg g5 but can only afford a c5
How much am I missing out on? Is the c5 going to look like shit? I hear it doesn't get very bright in gaming mode but is that like not bright in a bright room with windows not bright or not bright even in a dark bedroom?

Any recommendations for a keyboard for a HTPC
Currently have a Logitech K400R but for whatever reason it's become unreliable and basically no longer works.

>>107005051
That image is from Seasonic
Its not saying its unsafe its just recommended to use more cables - less voltage drop and extra redundancy

>>107006396
Dunno, but LG C1 still looks great in a dark bedroom.

>>107005956
Yeah but only on each "position" right? the 3 on the front, the three on the bottom, obviously the ones in the AIO
But that is still 3 connections + the exhaust so you need to have 4 fan ports on the mobo? or a "fan hub" right?

really good headphones have seriously ruined like half of my favorite songs....a lot of them have terrible mastering/static in the background

>>107006699
im poor so i'll never know, everything sounds good on my 30€ headphones
poors win again

>>107006699
Right, same thing with good monitors. If your input data sucks, you're gonna notice.

What would be the absolute cheapest upgrade for my PC?
I've got about $300 to upgrade my nearly decade old computer. Here's a parts list of the computer:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87PVjn

>>107006754
Damn, that's better than mine. Good luck upgrading, I'm guessing some sort of used GPU but honestly have no idea.

>>107006754
a 2nd hand 5600 (or better) for the cpu and a new gpu
check prices for a 5060TI or a 9060xt on your country / near you

>>107006754
there is pretty much nothing that $300 will get you in terms of an upgrade.

What's the cheapest, most appropriate, ideally second hand, mobo+cpu+ram combo to pair with an RX 570? It's currently on an i5-4440 and three mismatched sticks of DDR3, with the lowest common denominator among them being 1333MHz.
All I want to keep from it is the case (it's a case), the 600W PSU (80+ Gold, forgot the brand) and the RX 570 (handles pre-2020 games just fine).
Usecase would be Linux gaming and retro emulation on a living room TV at 1080p.
Upgradeability is also a plus, as in, the CPU being powerful enough to handle a newer AMD GPU.

>>107006754
>Nearly decade-old
>3600

Anyway, $300 isn't going to get you a noticeably better card unless you really want AI upscaling tech. On the CPU side it's easier; could do a 5500, 5600, or (used) 5*00X3D depending on just how much you're willing to drop. May be valuable if you mostly play autism sim games etc. but you'd probably want to do both at once if you're more into AAAs.

>>107006754
Whatever you do wait until black friday and pray, maybe get lucky with a good deal. But honestly if at all possible I would keep saving and try to build a new budget pc. At this point I think you could do better that way instead of trying to do life support on the one you have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0mz4LI8qAA

https://youtu.be/-wIP4Q9PdY0

finally been waiting for this one

hope it's good shit

>>107006848
similar to the anon that posted a bit above you
a 5500 or 5600/x or more expensive 5700/5800x3d (those will most likely be prohibitively expensive), any b450 or b550 mobo, 16gb of 3200 ram
there is a chance that you cna buy it all together 2nd hand from the same person as thats a fairly common combo for am4

>>107006870
>>Whatever you do wait until black friday and pray,
What I've been doing since July but dammit October is fucking me
by the time shit drops it'll be expensive/MSRP anyway
I shoulda bought it in July Prime Day but that stupid 50 super series christmas launch fucked me into waiting

>>107006874
>first case that's a true follow up from the fractal torrent
oh shit it's looking good

>>107006890
I spedwatched the video, it's just alright not worth the price.

>>107006881
I see MSI B450 PRO + 5600(non-X) for 145 euro, but no RAM. 2x8GB 3200MHz (no heatsink) is another 35 euro.
I also see a 12400F + H610 (DDR4?) combo for the same price, again no RAM.
Then again I ALSO see a 12100F + H610 + 2x8GB 3200MHz for 140 euro, which looks like a great deal actually?
I have no clue if Intel vs AMD CPU matters on Linux. 12100F looks like a standard 4c8t configuration without any of those weird E core P core bullshits later Intels have.

>RX 9070 XT vs RTX 5070 vs RX 9070 - DLSS 4 vs FSR 4 Performance Compared

https://youtu.be/YWUqsqcM4Hs

and the 5070TI?

>>107006754
>>107006883
i would check black friday for a cheap new gpu sure but i would also be looking for a second hand cpu already; i couldnt fathom buying a 5600 new in 2026. For reference i just checked and saw a handful of 5600x for 80€ in my country.
Cheapest 16gb 9060xt is listed as 360$ on usa on pcpartpicker and frankly thats about the lowest card i would consider buying new. Anything below that card i would check the 2nd hand market
Godspeed anon

Do you think we'll ever see 4k become the default resolution or will 1080p knuckle draggers keep us in the stone age forever?

stop banevading pedonigger

>>107006979
1440p is the real problem these retard gamers want to use this useless coperes forever

>>107006979
what are you talking about they cant event deilver solid 1080/60 gayming after like 3 generations
what makes you think things will somehow improve from now on?

>>107007000
You can get 60fps on 1080p with a 1080ti wtf are you talking about?

>>107006857
I feel old when I think about the 8700K being the best CPU on the market back then.
>>107006870
>>107006969
So, I should wait for black Friday?
Honestly, I'm thinking about the Intel A770. I see an Asrock model for $270. How well would one pair with a 3600? Or should I consider something else?

>>107007050
An A770 isn't noticeably faster than a 5700XT. IMO you'd want a 5060Ti-class at minimum to actually "feel" an improvement and that can't be done for $300 right now. Maybe if you get lucky with a used 3080?

>>107007050
anon focus
if you are looking for the most juice out of 300$ you are looking for a 2nd hand 5600 or 5600x and then whatever money you have left is to be put together towards a new gpu. For the gpu i would wait till black friday in case you can get them a bit cheaper but i wouldnt pick anything below a 9060xt 16gb or as the anon above me said a 5060TI (more expensive). If during black friday you can't afford either and dont want to wait then you should look for a used gpu.

>>107007050
Ok zoomer. I feel nothing when I think about overhearing adults gushing about the Pentium, way back when.

>>107002314
All these glasses cases look the same, I can't even tell them apart anymore. They are already getting boring I'm sick of seeing them spammed everywhere. Every single showoff build looks exactly the same.

I fucking HATE this company. I had to deal with their RAM twice, and each time it was a complete shit show. how are they even allowed to sell that trash?

>>107007217
I feel this really bad. They've become like phones where they've just settled on the one simple design and refuse to deviate from it. I want stupid shit that's vulgar with honesty like the old CM Stacker, HAF and Cosmos lines not these "safe" monotone fishtanks for your RGB rainbow puke.

>>107006396
Buy on sale periods and stack coupons or do whatever you must do
C5 does not have a new Tandememe panel
No 165hz
Way less color gamut
Way less light out put, you get like 400-500 nits SDR sustained on G5 vs 200-280 full screen on a C5. 2400 nit 10% hdr highlights vs 1100
No 5 year panel warranty on C5 vs G series

If you don't need brightness maybe you could just buy a S90D and get better color volume instead, even better than G5.... still

The whole point of these TVs is to HDRmaxx, but yeah they are way better than monitors anyway regardless

or also look for open box S95D/S90D/S90F with a scratched screen you can just peel off the coating, or get them not fucked up to that extent for cheap

but if you can get a larger C5 over a smaller G5 maybe idk? has to be 55 vs 77+ or something at that point

if you need even less brightness a B4 77" is like cheaper than ass I can buy them right now for 1180€ ish

>>107005532
Got the top during the prime day sale couple weeks ago. Holy fuck did I get lucky, I was planning on waiting for black friday but I kept seeing youtube videos talking about parts running out and not waiting. Thank God I listened, everything I got on sale went up a fuck ton. Maybe it will come back down next month but what if it doesn't?

Arrow Lake refresh, what are the expectations in gaming improvements?

>>107007356
Has ANYONE bought an Arrow Lake CPU for exclusively gaming? Last I checked everyone either jumped ship to Ryzen or is staying on 12-14th gen.

>>107007356
3% on average

>>107005467
OpenAI alone is demanding 40% of global DRAM for Stargate, add in every other AI company demanding memory too, consumer market is basically cooked unless the bubble pops (it won't)

I felt the itch to build a mini PC lately and dang, I didn't realise ITX motherboards have gone up so much, over $300 for a B850 board, really?

When did it become clear to you that SSDs are less reliable compared to HDDs?

>>107006934
RTX 5070 is falling more and more behind.

Kinda regret my purchase, even though it was on sale for 470 bucks.

>>107007479
Leading question
SSDs have half the annualized failure rate compared to HDDs
This is fact

>>107007501
My 12 year old HDD is still going strong, I've never actually had a drive fail. I think it's highly exaggerated how often it happens.

>>107006934
>FSR4 Quality looks like DLSS4 Balanced
>5070 gets similar or higher FPS than the 9070 XT if you match image quality
>for 100-150 euro less
Does Shillware Jeetboxed really?

>>107007532
Nice selfie, beaner

>>107007356
nobody buys arrow lake for gaming you buy it for quicksync and other not gaming stuff

>>106999808 (OP)
Allright fags, my next PC build will be full AMD(fuck njudea) and with Bazzite OS(fuck wangblows), which is the most reliable rx 9070 xt that I can purchase? Preferably one that won't have it's capacitors blow and has decent cooling.

>>107007507
Annualized failure rates for HDDs is typically like 2-4% and for SSDs its 1-2%
Not nothing but still fairly low

>>107007479
Never, as expected of tall tales.

>>107007479
when i bought super crappy $15 chinesium ones with mystery meat controllers and was totally shocked when they died

>>107007770
Just as good as a Samsung one, you're just paying for the brand bro.

Began playing through on AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT

>>107007832
Max settings FSR 4 Quality with 120 FPS Cap. Never drops below 100. The original game only had FSR 3 but they updated it to 3.1 for this expansion so the Adrenalin override works which is very nice.

>>107001274
That's a man

>>107007507
HDD failures for consumers is pretty low because most if them aren't used that much.
Even at 4% annualized failure rate (really high), the chance your HDD still works after 50,000 working hours is 80%
50,000 working hours can be 10+ years depending on use per day and even with this bad case your HDD likely is still going to be working then not.

In a DC/Hyperscale situation, these numbers can equate to tens if not hundreds of failures per DAY. If they could swap to SSDs they would instantly.

>>107007832
>>107007845
I'm sorry anon, we all make poor choices sometimes.

is there even a point buying 5080 from a 3080? do i wait for the super? or next gen entirely?(kinda tired of the shit performance of my 3080 ngl)

Found some great used prebuilts on market place what do you guys think 7800XT am4 build or 9060XT am5 build?,
One is 840 and the latter 999. All other specs have the same performance

>>107008005
Hmm? What choice is there to regret? The game runs and looks great with FSR 4 :)

>>107008128
Why do you spend all day playing all these dogshit games?

>>107007832
did mr freeze attack that precinct?
>>107008073
meta says that the 5080 is overpriced when compared to the 5070TI as it produces too little upgrade for the extra 400$ or so it asks
If you dont really need the upgrade for whatever you use the pc for and are just looking for the dopamine hit of upgrading, maybe consider a 5070TI

>>107000092
>autocad, proengineer / inventor
any gpu low to mid tier and up from the last decade can run that shit just fine

>>107008117
Also found a 5070 am4 build all with similar specs just difference in these gpus

>>107008134
Why does me enjoying new games on my new gpu make you so mad anon? This is a very miserable attitude to have and you should work on it.
>>107008140
>did mr freeze attack that precinct?
Clearly

>>107008173
All you do is play shit fps games no one has ever heard of before. Get some taste is all I'm saying.

>>107008165
the am4 7800xt is a non starter
the am5 with a 9060xt is a very clear poverty build, the kind of shit some shop will build to advertise as a 1200€ gaming computer 16gb vram and then its all bottom tier shit
i would personally get the am4 5070
But we would need more info, just make peace that none of those will be that good

>>107008180
>All you do is play shit fps games no one has ever heard of before. Get some taste is all I'm saying.
huh? not my thing but the robocop game has been praised as being pretty damn good
what do you want him to play

>>107007579
>which is the most reliable rx 9070 xt that I can purchase? Preferably one that won't have it's capacitors blow and has decent cooling.
Whichever one's that don't have the 12vhpwr connector that starts house fires. That's it.

>>107008195
The am4 have 5800x3d CPUs and 32GB ddr4 RAM.
The am5 is a 7500f AMD 32GB ddr5 RAM.

I use linux will the 5070 still be better even with the performance hit?

>>107008244
I wouldn't use Nvidia under Linux.

>>107008244
>>I use linux will the 5070 still be better even with the performance hit?
i wasnt considering linux and i dont know enough about that so feel free to disregard my whole previous post
i just made the decision under windows where if the rest of the build was the same the 7800xt made no sense cause the 5070 is just a better card, and the am5 9060xt seemed sus just from the beginning
If its only for linux and again if the rest of the build is the same, you are better on a more linux centric forum asking about how those 2 cards perform when compared to one another between the 7800 and the 5070

>>106999808 (OP)
Did Samsung ever address the QC issues that led to a bunch of 870 Evo failures a couple years back? I know their phones are still a bunch of lemons, so I'm skeptical. Likewise if WD stopped putting DRAM in the SA510 2/4TB models yet. Maybe a surplus Micron 5400 would be better just for the 10x life expectancy?

>Rx 9060xt
>Ryzen 5 5600
>Ssd 512gb
>4tb side ssd for gaymes
>180hz monitor
>Running windows 11

Fuck it I have decided to do a full windows reinstall. I have hoarded too much shit and if my drive looked like a house, it would like one of those crackdens of Tijuana. I need a fresh start.

>>107008292
So are you saying the 9060 is overall a better deal? Should i wait for something else?

Is it even that bad to stay on am4 and rdna3?

>>107008302
No but there's been no reported problems with post 2022 batches

>>107008302
>Maybe a surplus Micron 5400 would be better just for the 10x life expectancy?
This is pretty much how I buy SSDs now.
I don't bother with the bullshit in the consumer market, If I buy an SSD, it will be an OEM/Server part. Not even past used.

>>107008310
>>>Is it even that bad to stay on am4 and rdna3?
To stay on it if you already have it? No
To buy it brand new today? Yes, that money would be better spent on AM5/RDNA4

>>107008313
Of course how many people are buying them post 2022?

>>107008310
im saying that if your focus gonna be linux you should ask those questions on a linux board

nothing wrong with staying on am4 other than the lack of upgrades and spending money on a dead platform, the cpu on the am 5 isnt that far ahead of a 5800x3d if ahead at all. The faster ram and newer mobo would be cool tho,
Either way the linchpin is the gpu; on a vacuum 5070>7800xt>9060xt (but this one gets extra points since am5) but since people say that nvidia cards lose punching power on linus that balance might be off
So go to a forum of penguins and ask there

>>107008339
Well they're basically the only non-total shit 2.5" sata SSDs left to buy now that Crucial stopped making the MX500. The BX500 and all the other chinesium ones are complete garbage.

>>107008073
at that horror price point 100% wait
dont get vram gimped

ngridia has started work on 6000
soon, give it a month or so, it will be heard around the internets

>>107008766
If you think the 6000's are coming anywhere before mid 2027 you're insane.

>>107008808
waitfags are insane
they don't actually want to buy anything just wait

>>107004870
>>107004944
i swear a few months back i saw a video on Jayz2cents youtube channel where he showed this fan system that doesnt use rbg cables except for one 'main' fan that has the cables, the others connect via magnetic connections or some shit.

>>107008836
true.

>>107008766
they haven't even announced the release date of the super series you fucking clown. Why the fuck are you telling people to wait for the 6000 Njudean series? retard

>buy 5080/7800x3d for TV
>Play games like once every 2 weeks
Uh I wasted my money bros

Any case recommendations to fit my XFX SPEEDSTER MERC 310 AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 XT with its Z-bar along with a radiator on the front of the case?

>>107000092
Shameless bump. Can anyone else tell me if I fucked up with the AIO?

>>107009329
Didn't even know msi had their own aio, it's probably fine but you could watch this and see if anything looks better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTHCPsM5ECw

>>107009083
My PC spends more time running stress tests than games.

feel sad for anyone getting tricked into buying right now

when supers drop in 3 weeks you will feel like an absolute fool

>>107009499
>No performance leaks
>No packaging leaks
>No customs data leak
>'Super in 3 weeks!'

ok im actually sick of Lian Li's L connect software cause the USB for my hydroshift 2 keeps disconnecting and not being recognized. Whats another good set of Fan/aio architecture with reliable software?

>>107009538
that doesn't mean anything

nvidia is just a professional company and doesn't let leaks out

>>107009634
that's AMD's fault

>>107006754
>Ryzen 3600
>nearly decade old computer
Come on man I wouldn't even say that my Ryzen 1600 PC is nearly a decade old, stop exaggerating

>>107009671
how so?

>>107009647
Who said NVIDIA's the one that will share leaks?

>>107009681
Ryzen 1700 user here, bought it 1 month after the release of Zen 1, still has respectable performance, for a 8-year old CPU. It's impressive really, for reference think of using an Athlon 64 in 2012, would be a nightmare to run anything on it. Yet a CPU of same age nowadays is perfectly fine for most everyday tasks and even games that are not CPU intensive.

>>107007579
sapphire pulse is always a good choice for amd cards

>>107009742
Unfortunately I'm about to move on from it (just need to copy my stuff over to new PC) because it doesn't have secure boot and it's required for Battlefield 6. Don't even have space to keep it despite it working fine which is a shame.

>>107009841
>it doesn't have secure boot and it's required for Battlefield 6
? What are you talking about? Secure boot is a motherboard feature, and every motherboard that supports UEFI also supports secure boot. There are videos on youtube of people playing Battlefield 6 using Ryzen first generation CPUs.

>>107009742
Just get a 5800xt

Is the 4070Ti Super just poorfag cope?

why are 5090s suddenly spiking in prices???
how is the fucking $2500 gpu market never saturated?

>>107009975
everyone wants the best rasterisation performance available which only the top end of NVIDIA GeForce can deliver

>>107009975
Post COVID companies are now more responsive than ever to demand fluctuations.
Nothing gets sold at a price you'd call a discount anymore or even MSRP for that matter.

I'm looking for a larger/ergo mouse to claw grip. I dislike the size of normal claw grip mice since they're too small for me. At least thats how they feel, a bit too constraining, I guess. Does anyone have recommendations for me? My hands are 18x10cm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWPCxZzDzl4

Frame Warp is the future fellas.

>ummm ahkshually its been used in vr for a long time
yeah no shit faggot nobody cares because vr is dead

>>107010192
https://www.eloshapes.com/

>>107010276
uhhh amd bros how do we spin this as a negative until amd makes a shittier copy?

>>107008808
>>107008883
i will save your post for "topkek fags" when the announcement arrives

Apparently the P3 Plus has a bad HMB implementation that tanks performance on big data transfer, should I pony up for an SN7100 instead?

i bought a msi pro b650m-b for a 7600, I fucked up didn't I? I only saw the review after buying it

>Italy
>2k budget
>Fedora Workstation Edition exclusively (fuck windows forever)
>intense web browsing and working (Google Workspace, online document editing, online AI generations, browsing folders with thousands of documents and media quickly, media consumption)
>gaming at 2K 240fps mostly on old shooters (Mordhau, TF2, Overwatch 2, Chivalry 2)
Will the 9700X be good enough for the first tasks in your view? I could easily afford a 9900X but it's not really good value at its current price in my country.

>>107010859
well I doubt 240fps mordhau is realistic with that but otherwise seems fine
personally I would go for a ssd with dram

>>107010878
Which DRAM SSD would you recommend?

>>107010890
eh looking at the options in similar price range the 7100 probably still comes out on top

>>107010948
The 7100 has no DRAM. The Samsung 990 pro does and it costs 278€.

>>107010890
aorus gen4 2TB
reason ? idk its cheap in my region

>>107002209
i ordered a hellhound 2 days ago and it ignites my incel vrill

>>107010991
and it gets fucking demolished

>>107011124
If it's the original Aorus Gen4 it's cheap because it's a 1st gen PCIe4 drive. Basically a PCIe3 model with a PCIe4 bus. Still more than enough for the anon's requirements but tbf so is the SN7100.

Does anyone use RX 9060 XT and play CS2 on Linux? I have a gaming laptop and thinking about building a budget PC with the GPU and an AMD CPU, but wondering how would this game work there. On my gaming laptop with Nvidia driver I can see clearly differences in fps in favor of Windows, wondering whether there's a difference in fps between AMD GPU

>>107011259
9060xt gets raped by a 4060 in that game

>>107007579
reaper (good price, quiet)
pulse (cheapest but still good)
mercury OC, not magnetic (vapor chamber)

>>107011195
differences between ssds arent exactly documented to be impactful for the average gamer

>>107007579
Don't go Gigabyte since they still use paste. Look for ones that specifically state they use PTM7950 (basically Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX). Taichi and Nitro+ are dubious because of the connector as the other anon already mentioned.

>>107011377
I'm >>107010859. Gaming is not my priority: my priority is being able to browse thousands of thumbnails and files a day with no slowdowns. If the 990 Pro is faster and noticeably better than the SN7100 for this task I wouldn't mind spending more for it.

>>107011461
its not

>>107011322
>9060xt gets raped by a 4060 in that game
both will max out the fps of a monitor twice over mongoloid, of all the things to brandwar over, you jewish shill, this aint one of them fuckwit.

>>107011259
cs2 runs on anything, get a barebones pc with a 12gig+ vram gpu and enjoy. Amd will most likely be cheaper with a 9060xt than whatever Njudea churns out.

>>107011505
>cs2 runs on anything
its like doubly as heavy than csgo was 10y ago

>>107011461
You probably want to compare the random reads (IOPS) of the two. Going by the spec sheets the 990PRO is a bit better at 1200 vs. 1000 but they might both be high enough to where it doesn't matter.
If you do get slowdowns you should also consider some tiered storage (RAMdisk, 3D Xpoint/Optane) if the bottleneck is confirmed to be in the IO speed. Point being that NAND flash hits diminishing returns on random IO. Consider also the CPU if these images/thumbnails are constantly being modified.

>>107011489
>>107011520
Thank you. Since I have folders with more than 2.5k videos/documents/videos which are edited and implemented almost daily, do you think that I should consider the 9900X instead of the 9700X? I'm looking for a fast, reliable CPU for constant, stressing desktop workloads.

>>107011544
I would say so if you can afford it. I'd maybe even say go Intel if your editing software uses QuickSync. Kind of depends on how much time you spend doing each thing. At a certain point this all just becomes a business decision; "how long will X investment take to pay off?".