Thread 107022054

FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

>W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
Same as W10 version except:
UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet/Scoop or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W10/W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>106966795

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C44iCr6czAo&t=419s
>I have had multiple instances of Windows wiping out entire Linux partitions and even a data-only partition just because [Windows] didn't recognize the format.
>I have lost so much data from unexpected events like doing a Windows update and having it wipe the dual boot files and then continuing on to overwriting partition data to wipe Linux completely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C44iCr6czAo&t=1127s
>If you accidentally go into Disk Management and decide to view a Linux partion, which it will not recognize, you might accidentally overwrite the entire partition and lose everything.
>At the very least, it should recognize a foreign partition and not allow a write, at least without a ton of warnings. But there's no warning. It just overwrites and your Linux partition, with all your data, is suddenly wiped out just because you decided to have Linux coexist with Windows [...].

Is this true?

i really like jpegview
should i start using mpv?

>>107023099
It's not true, I have never had Windows delete a partition it did not understand without me pressing the wrong dialog button or writing the wrong command. I will believe it till I see it. I dual boot both OS never had the issues Linux users keep claiming exist.
That doesn't mean it's completely a hoax but there is a lack of evidence and recreation to proof it actually happened.
Windows even warns you in the partition manager that there might be an OS or data in a unreadable partition, if you try to delete it.

Is it possible to install xbox game bar and related services without MS Store?

>>107023293
>Is it possible to install xbox game bar and related services without MS Store?
Yes, I believe if you are European you have the option to do so.
but for everyone else you need to find the product ID and then use the downloader website and sideload the package with powershell.

>>107023293
But do you really need xbox game bar?
Annoying message can be disabled entirely and there are better options for screen recording and volume control overlay.

>>107023332
>But do you really need xbox game bar?
Yes, I have a 7800x3d, the new scheduler is tied to game bar lmao

>>107023317
Seems troublesome. I'll just reinstall store, install game bar and delete store again to avoid >>107021588

>>107023355
>Seems troublesome.
Noob.

>>107023355
7800x3d does not need game bar since every core is big cache core.
It's only required on mixed ccd like 7900x3d.

>>107023355
>Yes, I have a 7800x3d, the new scheduler is tied to game bar lmao
If you're talking about "game mode" then its just a setting that game bar automatically toggles for you. Game mode also just changes the process priorities a bit, if you're not CPU bound the difference is probably immeasurable.

>>107023696
Game mode has nothing to do with game bar and it's available on LTSC without it, it changes some system settings when it's detecting a fullscreen app, like notifications or screensaver or power profile.
Game bar is an overlay process that, when launched, gets detected by special amd lasso service, the service then assumes that the parent process of a game bar is a game, and ties that game to X3D CCD.

so education is not eligible?

asking here because i don't know where else, a friend of mine messaged me asking me to find a movie for him. i torrented and i now need to find a way of sharing a 2.5gb file with him, are there any file sharing services that let you upload files this big? or how else could i give him a direct download link?

he is technologically illiterate, trying to explain him how to install a torrent client and download it himself is out of the question

>>107024023
yea, there's a protocol which is perfectly suited for sharing large files over the internet, called bittorrent

>>107024023
haven't used it, but you could try https://instant.io/ it's a js/webrtc-based torrent client, i.e. one that just runs in a browser

>>107024023
https://transfer.it

>>107024023
limewire these days turned into an anonymous file sharing service with 4GB limit

I did a fresh install of W10 Enterprise 22H2, with a offline local account using EEA Region, enabled ESU 6 year updates, and disabled telemetry, error reporting, and automatic sample submission in group policy before grabbing the updates, then wiped all the unnecessary bloatware using winget/settings/optional features, and then installed some basic programs
>for vidyuh
amd drivers (driver only), c++ redist 2015-2022, directx
>for vidya piracy
7-Zip, qBittorrent, JDownloader 2
>for vidya modding
Paint.NET, GIMP, Blender, Notepad++
>for interwebs
Firefox+uBO, Chrome+uBO Lite
>for security scanning after patch tuesdays
Malwarebytes
>for movies, music, video/audio and stuffs
MPC-HC, MKVToolNix
>for images
qview
>for documents/comics/manga/ebooks
sumatra pdf
>for keeping windowed vidya centered
window centering helper

I haven't done a reinstall since I install windows 10 like 8 years ago, not sure if I'm missing any programs. I got msstore, winget, gamebar, codec extensions and media features if needed for vidya just in case, and GOG offline installers and steam grabs all the redistributables. disabled everything in firewall and settings i didn't need. not sure if i'm missing anything else.

recommend me cool useful programs, preferably foss but if good i dont mind proprietary

Any up to date Netscape Navigator themes for Firefox and its forks that actually work?

>>107025198
Thanks for the window centering helper software. Looks interesting.
I don't know how interested you're in for another ebook reader, but have you tried Readest? It's basically Foliate (the ebook reader you see posted in those linux desktop threads) for Windows. Probably not the best for pdf documents, but I find it aesthetically pleasing while reading ebooks.

>>107025373
Looks pretty nice, my only issue and why i avoided ebook readers and music players is because from my past experiences with musicbee and calibre is that they like to fuck around with the files and want you to put shit in their own library folders, and I prefer to have stuff ordered in Documents / Pictures / Music in my own way, does this program just open files or does it force it's own file library management too

>>107025591
Both, you can import books in or you can just open the file with the software to read.

>>107023099
been dual booting Windows 10 and 11 even on the same drive for years and I have never had this issue. Granted, the bios has it's own partition priority which detects Linux and Windows and lets you chose which one comes first.

But I also had tried it on PCs with super basic bios and never happened as well. And, in the case that it does happen, recovering the boot partition just needs a Live Linux USB and a command, and that's it

Is there any way to stop icon title bars from resizing in Windows 11? It's honestly driving me mad watching icon tabs constantly shifting in size. Preferably using something like registry edits, I'd rather not have to run windhawk 24/7 for something so simple.

>>107023170
Yeah. I don't watch youtube videos in browser anymore thanks to mpv. Not that I needed to save on memory but it just looks and feels better.

>>107027439
>icon title bars
You mean taskbar labels width? I only know of windhawk module for it.

I bought one of the 26tb external HDD's seagate has on sale and I am noticing something wierd

If I copy a directory to that drive, and use the normal windows explorer folder viewer search for the same word in both directories, the copied directory on the external HDD will serve less results: It's not searching within the file's contents or metadata or as many subfolders as it is on other drives

Conversely, I can open images on that drive I can't on other drives due to being past the normal windows path length limit

Anybody know what the cause of the former might be and how to change it? Is it a file system thing (it's ex-fat, which I don't think I've ever used before), or a windows indexing/search setting thing, etc? I'm on Windows 10

>>107024023
easyupload

>>107027989
Yeah that, sorry I didn't quite know how to describe it. I know about the windhawk mod as well, I was just wondering if there was an alternative to having a random app running all the time on my PC for a basic customization

stinky thread

>>107025198
>MKVToolNix
You do use MKVBatchMultiplex right?

>>107028037
Once you start looking through windhawk library you will want to do more than just basic customization

>>107027771
How do you browse/search for videos?

>>107014083
Yeah, dying graphics card seemed to be the issue. It's working now, though I guess I won't e gaming on this guy anymore.
Thanks everyone for the help installing the LTSC. Now I need to dispose of a dead 5 lb GTX 570

does anyone know if its possible to wipe all windows partitions but keep my D: partition?
i would like to do a clean install

Is 11 LTSC as bad as text on OP indicates? If you're having good time how did you de-pozz it?

>>107029103
Mine is fine, but it's windows 11 pro. No idea what I did to it, it was so long ago. Doesn't support ai or anything like that though.

>>107028366
Well, the browser. You just click and drag on the video you wan to watch into the mpv window. I'd think if it were to incorporate the entire browsing experience of youtube it would defeat the purpose of having an efficient video player.

>>107023197
>I have never had Windows delete a partition it did not understand without me pressing the wrong dialog button or writing the wrong command. I will believe it till I see it.
NTA but the claim was "you might accidentally overwrite the entire partition and lose everything," not "windows will automatically delete linux partitions"
keyword "you"
and it seems accurate seeing as you cant even read a 4chan post properly, how can we expect you to read disk management correctly?

Haven't used W7 in over 5 years so I decided to install it in a VM
I didn't expect updating it would take so much storage space. I thought an updated W7 would be 20GB at most
It's not even done updating yet

>work machine, win11
>16GB RAM (15.7GB usable)
>open task manager
>memory usage at 66%
>chrome process: 1440MB
>switch to percentage view
>chrome process: 25%
can someone please explain wtf is going on here? is that 25% supposed to be 25% of the 66% of the memory that's currently being used? or 25% of all available memory on the machine? because neither of those figures math out to 15.7GB.

>>107029504
can you even do a dism resetbase in win7? last i checked that was added in win8, but maybe there's a different method for 7

>>107029504
>>107030127
otherwise-- just slipstream updates with ntlite prior to installation, i think you can do that with the free version

>>107030127
>can you even do a dism resetbase in win7?
Nope

So this is how much space W7 (plus Supermium) takes after installing all updates, including extended security updates and Server 2008 R2 updates (which will end in Jan 2026 BTW)
Basically as updated as W7 can officially be AFAIK

>>107030159
jesus

>>107030159
that's pretty funny. i have a fully updated linux install on an old 8GB flash drive, not even half full, with mate de, a browser, and a bunch of recovery type applications on it, even a 3d game if i'm waiting for something

>>107030221
while off-topic, for fun i was looking at making that a compressed immutable image instead, and worked out it would be able to fit on a 2GB flash drive instead), and that's not even using a minimalist distro

>>107029504
Windows Update never deletes and replaces old files, just adds more and more versioned aliases to winsxs.
It getting out of hand with some installs surpassing 64GB was one of the reasons MS switched to semiannually major upgrades that are allowed to purge all the old shit.
>>107030221
Linux just replaces old versions of libraries unless explicitly required and packaged, 99.9% of the time latest generic version is shared by all dependent packages, so size of a fully updated install should never be much different from installed once and frozen.

>>107030539
you can remove all the old stuff using resetbase, but that was added in win8

I just pulled out an oldass hard drive I know used to have malware in it to back up some data, and to be safe I ran a windows defender scan on it

After the scan ended it said 13 threats were found, but when I go to protection history, nothing is listed

How can I actually view the threats it found? Maybe i'm just not doing something right?

>>107028012
>>107028012
>>107028012
bumping

>>107028630
Just delete them all except for the one mounted on D:?

>>107029103
No
I uninstalled (DISM) the store and all the other default apps that I don't want to use because alternatives are usually much more featureful.

>>107030852
Its probably because you've formatted it as exFAT, the search in windows makes heavy use of the NTFS indexing capabilities. Also exFAT doesn't even have journalling (it was designed for small removable media but without the FAT32 limitations), you probably really want to use a real FS for a proper drive.

What image viewer are you using? Do you have Win32 long paths enabled?

I think I broke my winget and/or msstore

store apps search by name shows only partial results
"winget list" does not show source or ID for store apps, instead it shows MSIX path like it was sideloaded package
explicitly displaying properties or installing by ID works fine but autoupdate does not list sotre apps at all
UnigetUI does not list most of the store apps at all or lists them in "Local PC" category instead of "MS Store"

>>107023099
>hay winblows didnt mount my linux partition, m$ sucks for actually obeying gpl and not including an ext or betarfs driver
>so i thought id be smart (im not) and went into disk management to force-mount it
>then pnp came up with "unrecognised filesystem on volume X: do you want to format it ntfs"
>then, because im a fucking (f)re(e)tard, i selected yes because big scawy dialog i dont understand
>and thats when i lost all my data, because im a linux user - or as most people call me, "fucking moron neet"
That's what really happened
Like leftists in general, almost all freetard wounds are self-inflicted

>>107031434
reinstalling apps one by one seems to fix it but surely there must be a better way

>>107029834
>literally the only thing running on my machine is chrome honest guize
>the nt kernel, the drivers, the shell, the background services, the disk cache - none of these exist
>THERE IS ONLY CHROME (because its maximized, see)

>>107031477
Do you know any PowerShell? There's a PS module for winget integration
Install-Module -Name Microsoft.WinGet.Client
If you can find a way to filter them then I'm sure I or another anon here can help you with a PS script if you need.

Do any of them have updates available? You might find its just a visual bug but they will still update as expected (as it correctly recognised you still have the store package installed).

>>107029834
The value it gives is actual usage of the process and the percentage it gives is committed (allocated for the process) out of the total available pool (including any pagefiles).

>>107032094
Oh fuck it's worse than I thought
"winget show" does not display info of installed apps at all, it merely displays most relevant search result from all stores and repos, that may or may not match full name of an installed package.
"Get-AppXPackage" cannot display store package IDs of installed packages.

But there still is a way to get IDs. They are cached in the fucking registry.
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\InstallService\State\CategoryCache

>>107031157
>journaling

I don't even know what this is, explain?

>>107032709
>>107031157
Also, shit, I do remember now that NTFS specifically allows for saving metadata in alternative data streams

Is there a way to compare files to see if any of those had that that were stripped out as I moved them over to this new drive then?

>>107032709
Journaling basically makes it that if you somehow have a power outage or remove a disk without safely removing it, the data won't be completely corrupted because it journals what was there and knows what to replace if it might be.

>>107032292
>"winget show" does not display info of installed apps at all
That would be "winget list"

>>107032292
>it merely displays most relevant search result from all stores and repos, that may or may not match full name of an installed package.
Yes but this means it's also able to handle updating programs/packages that did not originate from winget. Hence there's a chance it can still update your store packages even though winget list doesn't match a store ID

After using privacy.sexy's standard option Visual Studio Code stops installing and updating packages. Does anyone know which specific option in privacy.sexy affects this? What should I revert?

>>107032844
winget list is a plaintext blob that does not contain store IDs nor PS objects that could be explored further.
>>107032917
>Hence there's a chance it can still update your store packages even though winget list doesn't match a store ID.
Or, if you rely ONLY on data from the "list", it can install something absolutely irrelevant. Picrel.

There's still another way to get store URL from full MSIX name and from there you could extract ID by parsing web requests or automating GUI clicks.
Registry lookup is still the least painful and unreliable way to go here.

>>107028099
I just use MKVToolNix to get rid of unecessary subtitle and audio tracks in movies I grab from QxR, UTR, Edge2020 etc, and to make sure that the movies by default load with english subtitles enabled. Helps save some space and is very easy to do. Don't use it for anything else.

>>107028630
Yes? It should be pretty straight forward to understand, when you are in the windows installer part where you can choose your partitions and/or where to install the os, you simply just wipe everything except for the D: partition, beforehand check which drive is D:, for example my NVME SSD where I install my OS is a 1TB drive marked as Disk 1 by default, my SATA SSD is easy to spot because it's Disk X and has 500GB, but my HDD is a 1TB Disk 0 so I have to be careful not to wipe that when selecting what to delete and what to keep, learn what number is dedicated to your drive if you have the issue of them being the same size. Also if say your C: partition is the only other disk beyond the D: disk, then you can simply just wipe C: as it'll obviously be a windows partition by default formated to have a boot and a recovery partition, while your D: disk won't have that if it was just formatted for storage.

>>107032937
Ask the devs on github, I don't use third party malware meme scripts, I imagine if it's anything like WinUtil it probably has a option that says "Remove ads in start menu" that then proceeds to also make a billion changes in your regedit and random meme optimizations with no documentation or reasoning like for no reason disabling sysmain, windows updates, disables everything in your firewall settings, wipes packages necessary for winget or webview or widgets to work, or disables ipv6 and applies lulrandom changes to your power plan and rips out core utilities out of your system.

Is there a way to permanently disable the prompt to create a Microsoft account?

>>107034709
Not installing shit editions in the first place.

Anons, I am forced to switch to Windows 11 soon because of my new motherboard (X870E Tomahawk)

I want the following:
>ZERO telemetry
>ZERO Recall type BS
>no microsoft account BS
>forced updates DISABLED, I will update my computer when I FEEL LIKE IT, not when the big brother wants me to
>everything including vidya works
>dont give a fuck about MS Store
>atriocious UI downgrades (right click menu type shit) disabled as much as humanly possible

I want it to be just like Windows 10 but please no software like ExplorerPatcher which makes the system a fucking minefield of random shit not working randomly.

How do I prepare for the deshittification of W11? First steps after booting for the first time?

>>107037363
There is little you can do.
Try the latest LTSC.
If you cannot, use microwin and a edition that's above home.
>I want it to be just like Windows 10 but please no software like ExplorerPatcher which makes the system a fucking minefield of random shit not working randomly.
StartAllBack or Start11.

>>107037496
>LTSC/microwin
>StartAllBack/Start11
Noted, will absolutely try. Thank you.
>There is little you can do.
It's so fucking over, isn't it.............

>>107037523
>It's so fucking over, isn't it.............
There is a guy that ported the Windows 10 UI in Windows 11 but that's not reasonable and I don't even know if that works well with new builds of 11?
https://youtu.be/CeYZrnjscoY?list=PLxMrRyGuWL808KYGx204Y-z0hBETzfjzY
Otherwise it's grim.

>>107037496
Are there any disadvantages to using Win 11 LTSC?

>>107037685
>Are there any disadvantages to using Win 11 LTSC?
I recommend the iot version, other than it being based on windows 11 24H2 and if gaming is very important playing the latest and greatest you might have problems with anti-cheat software because some these companies don't want you using an EOL version of windows asfaik 24H2 is not yet EOL but when that happens you MIGHT run into these issues not 100% sure.
Because some of them are already forcing things like secure boot.
That version is frozen so in the future you might get problems however if a new ltsc comes out just use that.

>>107037751
Thanks anon. I fear shit like this. What are your thoughts on Win 11 Enterprise? Is it better for less bloatware than Pro?

>>107037751
PS
>Wait what do you mean with EOL I thought LTSC is supoased to get updates.
Yeah but they assume you use a normal version of windows. Where the SAC version is EOL but the LTSC isn't.

>>107037363
Sounds like IoT LTSC is your only choice. About zero telemetry well we can't be 100% sure what windows sends but LTSC let's you turn 99% of telemetry off just with the Group Policy, and so does the updates.

>>107037767
>Thanks anon. I fear shit like this. What are your thoughts on Win 11 Enterprise? Is it better for less bloatware than Pro?
Microwin might lower the bloat, if I remember right it is supported. and enterprise supports disabling full telemetry which pro doesn't. but you will have the typical windows 11 problems.
updates reverting settings and installing shit you don't need.
You can avoid the microsoft account using the domain option {has nothing to do with domains, it's a scarecrow}.
>>107037816
this more or less.

>>107037816
ltsc has the same telemtry as normal enterprise

>>107038238
Doesnt setting the telemetry to 0 (Security) in Group Policy stop sending shit to microsoft?

>>107038243
Yes, just like normal Enterprise. Though it sends the absolute minimum system-level shit that's non-revealing of you.

What exactly would be the point of swapping to Windows 10 IoT LTSC if things like Steam/Browsers/Drivers will stop supporting W10 overall in 1/2 years?
Like, yes, you will get security updates but you literally cannot run anything on it and will have to do workarounds 24/7 which will barely work as the time goes on.

>>107031500
i never said chrome was the only thing running i was just using chrome as an example you FUCKING RETARD FUCK YOU KILL YOURSELF
>>107032151
thank you

>>107029286
This has to be one of the most autistic things I've read on this forum in years

You literally use a separate piece of software to watch the videos, but you still use the actual platform to browse, which is like 95% the interfacing you do with the service other than actually watching the videos, during which it makes zero difference what platform you're watching it on as long as the video is playing??

In what way does it just 'feel' better? Like, are you spending the entire time watching your videos constantly adjusting the volume, and resizing the video?? What the FUCK

>>107037363
I love it when NPCs who've been running Windows Timeline for the last 7 years without complaint bitch about Recall, for no other reason than YT told them to.

>>107038523
>why yes im a fucking retard
>oops i mean N-NO U
Classic. But I wanted fries with that.

can mpv play twitch streams?
i remember vlc could do that?

>>107039256
yt-dlp through mpv can run twitch streams, yeah

Is KB5070773 a preview update? Normally I get an option to install cumulative preview updates if I want but this one isn't labeled as a preview, and yet it hasn't tried to install automatically. Tried looking it up online and some people are having issues installing it on unsupported hardware, but that always seems to be the case with unsupported hardware.

If it's going to get automatically installed later anyway then I'll just wait for it like I usually do cumulative updates. Just thought it was a little weird it's not labeled as a preview. Maybe they want us to install it asap so they removed the preview label? Or maybe they forgot to add the label?

>>107038292
>will stop supporting W10 overall in 1/2 years
Very unlikely, mate. Especially since w10 and w11 have the same kernel, meaning the same drivers apply to both. Any restriction made by software devs would be entirely arbitrary (as anything that has to do with w11 really).
But I don't think Valve, Browsers and such will stop supporting W10 for, at the very least, the 3 more years the ESU will exist. And more surely even longer.
I don't see windows 10 losing support for important software in at least 5 or more years. Definitely not before windows 12 comes out.

>>107039313
I checked and it's an Out of Band update, which means it's usually a hotfix or some quick update they decided to rollout for those who are having problems, in this case an obscure USB bug in WinRE.

Those are not mandatory but they usually come in the next Patch Tuesday anyway

I love Windows!

>>107039608
I used to love windows*

>>107038238
>>107038286
Yes of course it's the same as Enterprise in that regard. But anon asked for something without the bloat, without AI and such. Enterprise still has all the normal bloat of regular editions.
IoT LTSC is the most stable edition.

>>107038523
Ignore this retard >>107038538
The purpose of mpv playing youtube videos makes sense when you're using an underpowered machine that can load youtube pages fine enough but struggles with the player itself. Even on modern pcs, youtube's video player sucks dick (and did I mention all of the fucking ads?). Anyway, I agree that's it pretty much mega-autistic to do this, but I'm having a better experience because of it.

I wonder if windows 12 will backtrack on 11's UI regressions, or if it's going to continue the downwards trend from 8 to 10 to 11 of making it a dumbed down touchscreen-friendly OS. I'm hoping for the former.

Bros, I was reading about what windows11 version to get and everyone is recommending iot ltsc, but I read it has some compatibility problems with some programs and some performance problems with some games, is it true?
I thought the iot ltsc version was literally the same as home but with little less bullshit.

any light, intuitive and good image viewer for normalfaggots?
I tried to download the default photo program from MS store on LTSC 11 for my family and it pulled like 600 MB, holy bloat.

>>107040262
Irfanview with the optional plugins.

>>107040270
already considering Irfanview and qview, I'd like to hear other options

>>107040262
nomacs has been the best, no fuss image viewer I've used.

>>107040280
> other options
I use nomacs with completely disabled interface

>>107040134
>is it true?
Not afaik. What problems or perf issues have you read about?
In my experience, W11 IoT LTSC performs exactly the same as W10 IoT LTSC. That's why I went back to W10 since there was no difference. But this was on my hardware.
The only case I'd think of about LTSC giving you problems is if you used some of the newest Ryzen CPUs that require the fucking game bar to function.

>>107040329
>>107040338
will try, thanks

>finally fixed RDP changing the wallpaper of the host
Finally a good update

>>107040107
>I wonder if windows 12 will backtrack on 11's UI regressions, or if it's going to continue the downwards trend from 8 to 10 to 11 of making it a dumbed down touchscreen-friendly OS. I'm hoping for the former.
Look no further then into Microsoft's other products.
Did Microsoft go back to making traditional consoles with good exclusives like the 360 or original xbox?
Because that's what people who have been buying these system for the vast majority want.
It can get so much worse then you think.

>>107040134
>I thought the iot ltsc version was literally the same as home but with little less bullshit.
Because it's an LTS(c). If you have never used linux before this might be hard to understand but it's frozen in time and over time you will run into problems because some clown might require you to use new stuff that might be in a future 27H2 that 25H2 doesn't have. (this is not a hypothetical, Microsoft added X12 Ultimate to SAC versions and if you were using an older LTSC or even LTSB you wouldn't have that) At the end of the day iot ltsc and ltsc are really meant for the enterprise who want a stable system not an evolving one and for those who don't want to be forced into microsoft's ecosystem + Windows as a service and want windows as a platform for their applications that's really the only good version.

>>107031434
This also happens to me too. I removed the MS Store app after installing the app installer/winget and codecs. Honestly I don't really care that much because I don't use winget

fuck i cant decide on a video player

>>107041542
Just use mpv and never worry about that shit again.
Get mpv-net if you want a true GUI.

>>107041553
yeah my choices were mpv, mpc-hc and potplayer
but looks like mpv is the one with the best support for streaming videos
the problem i have with is it has so many options and i like thumbnails on the seekbar

>>107023099
This was already proven to be bullshit by Linux users in /fglt/. Aside from the fact that Windows does sometimes remove grub after a system update, but there's no data loss there and this issue was fixed in the Windows 11 updater a year ago.

>>107041591
https://github.com/tomasklaen/uosc
This script helps base mpv be a bit more "feature rich" via mouse clicks plus helps with thumbnails on the seekbar and such.

>>107041361
Seems to be a problem with msstore apps updated or installed outside of winget.
Also some supposedly non-store apps distributed as msixbundle file can get taken over by store and stop getting updates from winget, mostly happens to powershell, windows terminal etc ms apps.
Pic related, I have non-store "Microsoft.WindowsTerminal" installed.
And I do NOT have store "Windows Terminal [9N0DX20HK701]" installed.
And non-store "Microsoft.WindowsTerminal" does not reference store ID [9N0DX20HK701] anywhere in its description.
Guess what happens if I press enter to uninstall [9N0DX20HK701] ?
It will uninstall non-store "Microsoft.WindowsTerminal" (and close its active window)

I have not yet found a reliable fully automatic solution to managing store apps without installing store gui.
Might just keep a note with all the manually installed store app IDs and a script that force reinstalls them on a timer.

>>107039683
Is getting rid of the bloat and AI and such complicated in Enterprise?
I play some games which feature kernel level anticheats and I fear being locked out because I'm stuck on a particular version of IoT LTSC

Hello
I've been trying to block some websites using the hosts file
except everytime When the hosts works, none of the application on my PC can connect to their services
ie I can't log in on steam/discord/whatever
only web browsers work, and I can log just fine on the website of these applications

The hosts file contains a list I got online(easylist I think) + a few additionnal link I added
The list should be the same that mullvad vpn dns block feature use and when I use the VPN, I don't have that issue

Any idea?

>>107041617
i saw that one
i would like to keep script usage to a minimum

Why is microsoft so cringe and retarded

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2025/10/28/the-next-chapter-of-the-microsoft-openai-partnership/

>>107041691
Because the link between package in source and installed package is very weak. It can tell that the store package with the given ID is the same as one currently installed and so it will uninstall it. This is just like how you can install programs outside of winget and then still use winget to update them without any extra configuration.
>Might just keep a note with all the manually installed store app IDs and a script that force reinstalls them on a timer.
Once again, have you found an issue with it like the apps won't update through winget even though an update is available or are you just obsessing over the listing?

>>107042337
>I fear being locked out because I'm stuck on a particular version of IoT LTSC
Then just install a newer version? I'm not even an LTSCfag but this is completely a nonissue

>>107042538
But what if an "updated" LTSC isnt even out yet?
Say in 2026 I'll be required to use a version of W11 to play my kernel AC vidya but the LTSC's gonna be out in 2027

>>107042352
Are you blocking any of the domains Windows uses to test internet connectivity?
>everything is being blocked
Its very hard to help without having any info about the additional domains you added or which list you actually got. A good start is for you go through your hosts file and work out which entries are causing the issue.

>>107042529
>Once again, have you found an issue with it like the apps won't update through winget even though an update is available or are you just obsessing over the listing?
Cant reproduce it now since everything is up to date but often winget cannot update powershell or terminal with the error that installation method was different.

>>107042458
Lmao
>Once AGI is declared by OpenAI, that declaration will now be verified by an independent expert panel.
>Microsoft’s IP rights for both models and products are extended through 2032 and now include models post-AGI, with appropriate safety guardrails.
>Microsoft’s IP rights now exclude OpenAI’s consumer hardware.
>OpenAI can now jointly develop some products with third parties. API products developed with third parties will be exclusive to Azure. Non-API products may be served on any cloud provider.
Microsoft can now independently pursue AGI alone or in partnership with third parties.
>Microsoft’s IP rights to research, defined as the confidential methods used in the development of models and systems, will remain until either the expert panel verifies AGI or through 2030, whichever is first.

>>107042566
>winget cannot update powershell
There's an open issue about this because they were labeling the installer type wrong which recently caused winget updates to fail. This is only a problem with the non-store version though

>>107042553
The chance that they're going to require features past 24H2 in 2026 for a major anticheat are pretty low to impossible.
Also Regular Enterprise 24H2 is supported until end of 2027 so they would be locking GAC users out too.

>>107041056
Not even LTSC, but you can achieve something similar with group policy?

hey /g/ tech support guy here
i work in a local software house that sells SAS to small business , case being POS for small stores
once about 3 months one specific store can't reach our IP at all, forcing me to install VPN to work properly
yes i'm aware the issue is on the ISP and they already solved this before but it came back after 3 months. also it requires a lot of calls and busywork

any easy way to solve this? or some easy to handle VPN? the people that work on these stores don't even know what is a browser, actually opening a VPN is beyond them

>>107023099
This happened to me once, with Windows auto writing over the header of a Linux partition when I booted from the Live CD. For context, I wanted to install Windows to a certain hard drive but the Live CD just went ahead and reformatted the largest available drive. Luckily it was recoverable and data loss was minimal.

>>107044183
have they given you a technical explanation of what causes the issue?

why is the new context menu so fucking big?

>>107044302
why u do this

>>107039574
Ah, thanks.

>>107044233
for some reason a small IP range (the last 2 digits) can't reach our website, they simply changed said range last time. still it was a pain for both sides to do it so i'm looking for something easier
for now i installed a VPN and it's working for now. Tomorrow when machine gets booted again the VPN won't be running and the issue will come back
>tell them o open the VPN
they minimum wage workers, they either don't know even that or simply won't bother to do it
>set the VPN to run on boot
for this i'd have to make multiple accounts and install on different machines,, which is a pain. maybe i'll have to do this

>>107044623
He's right thoever

Which photo viewer do you use? I noticed JPEGView displays the wrong colors (some pics look washed out), unlike Firefox and mpv.

>>107045923
Enabling UseEmbeddedColorProfiles fixed it.

>>107045923
nomacs

>>107045923
I've used nomacs for years at this point. Does the job.

>>107045923
when i open an image on mpv it looks worse whatn jpegview
it looks blurry
and the colors look fine to me

I tried using Linux and it fucking sucks. Seriously you are better off debloating windows than using Linux, nothing works in that piece of shit. I don't care about being called a normie or idiot, I just want an OS that just works.

I really don't know what to do after windows 10 ltsc ends support, I assume by that point windows 11 will have many debloating versions and without bullshit. But I'm not going back to Linux. It simply doesn't work, Linux is free if you don't value your time.

>>107048359
You don't need to debloat if you're using iot ltsc

>>107048359
not only that but the resource usage is actually almost the same as windows when you start to actually use it unless you use some shit like lxqt or a window manager
gaming is also a mess outside of steam, there is a reason why stuff like lutris and bottles exists

also do you even need to "debloat" windows?
just uninstall everything you dont need, dont let shit run at startup, disable whatever services you want and use group policy

>>107045923
Nomacs
Discovered it when using Linux on an old laptop and really liked it so I started using it on Windows too

>>107048767
People shit on Windows for using more RAM but they don't understand that it's because Windows caches shit into free RAM because unused RAM is wasted RAM
The more free RAM you have, the more it will use to cache shit, and it will free RAM as needed

>>107022054 (OP)
If I don't get a second row of programs in my taskbar I am going to explode. I can't install windhawk or anything unless I give it to all my domain users which will create drama and support tickets. Fuck the overflow menu and FUCK Microsoft.

>>107049267
What happens if you do the registry edit that brings back the old menu?

Is there no safe way to use a computer that you play games on when doing more private things? banking, porn, crypto wallets, etc.
If kernel anti cheats can just do whatever, then creating a second user account on the same machine obviously won't offer any safety from that shit spying on you.

>>107049792
If you're schizo about that, then dual boot Linux and do the needful there

>>107049792
if you play shit with such cancerous kernel anti-cheat that will even detect hardware passthrough, then you can really only dual boot

excluding ltsc, which windows edition is less bloated?

>>107049831
Enterprise LTSC is the least "bloated" by default because it doesn't include any UWPs besides system-level ones like Settings.

>>107049831
Installing Windows with the English (World) language gets rid of a lot of preinstalled stuff, not everything tho, mostly just Store apps

I believe one Anon said Education came a bit less bloated too, or maybe I dream that who knows

>>107040107
>>107040988
With microjeet things can only get worse. Methinks they're deliberately trying to kill off windows since it's a net loss for them, even with the data collection revenue.

>>107050060
>hey pal you know those family photos that you kept perfectly preserved for years?
>how about i upscale them for you :^))))

>>107050060
Most of their revenue comes from the enterprise world, which is essentially just holding them by the balls with Active Directory, which ofc they use through Windows, not to mention adding Office and other services. While Windows doesn't make a lot of money by itself, it's the backbone of MSs operations, they will never get rid of Windows, that's why the good-bad cycle exists, they can't afford Windows to be unpopular for too long because that means huge loses, one way or another they have to backtrack on retarded decisions because Windows is what holds MS together, it's just that rn they don't know what the fuck do in the consumer side, plus the AI race, at some point they will backtrack on a lot of shit.

>>107044302
Why are you such a fucking retard?

>>107050060
SAAR HOLY OS SAAAAAR
STORE MY DATA SAFELY SAAR
wait a minute? why don't I have access to my data?
user requested secure data storage, rest assure the data is stored

this agentic shit is going to be like a djinn with its corrupted wishes and it WILL be ever-evolving and never react the same

>>107050152
Why

are

you

suck

a

fucking

retard

?

Nothing wrong with wasting screen space! empty voids between everything! modern design! YAS QUEEN!!!
eat shit faggot

>>107044302
Malicious design to frustrate and annoy users.

>>107050128
>one way or another they have to backtrack on retarded decisions because Windows is what holds MS together
I think they'll triple down on their smooth-brained antics and try to gaslight everyone into thinking it's what's best for them (kind of like what they've been doing only ramped up to 11 (hah)). Yes, you like AI shit in notepad/paint etc. Yes, you want your OS to do shit without your consent. Yes, you WILL sign into a microsoft account because look at all these features you get! I don't think anyone in the windows division has a solid plan for windows other than throw LLM's at it and copy apple's design language for the next release, and that's really sad imo.

OCD autist here. Anons, is there any way (tool, registry entry, etc.) to show shadows under windows, but not menus?

>>107050713
yes

What's the point of downloading KBs if the features aren't enabled directly right after installation? Are they retarded?

What's the strategy for when windows 10 ltsc gets to an end? Will windows 11 be usable?

I seriously don't want to use Linux desktop, it simply doesn't work you have to waste a lot of time to make things work and the community sucks, like they are so autistic they can't comprehend why normal people don't use Linux and don't want to use it

>>107051112
Anon it's so far in the future that you really shouldn't be thinking about it yet at all.

>>107051164
Doesn't the support end in 2032? That's around the corner

>>107051170
It's late 2025. That's seven years into the future.

Windows defender is being shit and refuses to scan some directories I know have malware on them somewhere

What is the least terrible third party antivirus scanning software that's free and isn't adware itself?

>>107051179
Bitdefender, ESET or Malwarebytes.

>>107051179
Analyse storage with Malwarebytes, clean install on system drive.

Linux users say that windows still has spyware even after debloating it, what are they talking about?

use Linux instead

is there any way in nomacs to make panning while zoomed in not go outside the image?
if that makes sense

>>107050165
I asked WHY you're such a fucking retard, not yet more irrefutable proof that you ARE such a fucking retard.
Learn to read, then try again, retard.

>>107051541
>I asked WHY you're such a fucking retard
no
you did not

TONIGHT I'm gonan do it. Totally goinan fuckin do it. I am gunna try ant SUCK my own COCK!!! I taste my own cum from jackan off but it is not satisfy enough. I need to feeel it shootan on my tongue. I will bee in extacee. I am so excite boys!

just upgrade to 9800x3d
stay in w10 or hop to 11

>>107051185
>>107051233
I used malwarebytes, but it only seems to give me an option to quarantine the stuff it detects, is there a way for me to tell it to nuke the stuff it has in quarantine?

ive been bullying people still using windows 7 for years but you guys aren't allowed to bully me in 10 years when im still on 10 ltsc

https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/
Is this worth buying (pirating?) if I'm getting Sony XM4 headphones that support LDAC? I'm using a cheap BT4.3, or 4.2 or similar, USB dongle on my desktop PC running Windows 11 if it matters.
I'm upgrading from Razer Opus X which work just fine on my PC, same with my Galaxy Buds FE, all on this same dongle and without any alternative drivers.

So I ran that Massgravel and did all the stuff and it says I should have 3-year ESU but it says I don't?
What gives? Did it not work?

>>107054668
yeah
you can remove anything it quarantines

>>107057184
It's a visual bug

>>107057439
Ah, really? Well if that's all it is. I sure hope so, thanks.

>>107022054 (OP)
preface: I am retarded
I recently bought a new computer that came preinstalled with W11
What are the steps I need to take to downgrade to W10

>>107057618
ai slop

>>107057516
Massgrave docs mention it. Also according to them make sure you either delete or disable the DisableOneSettingsDownloads DWORD in the registry too if you have it, which if you used ShutUp10 recommended settings then you do.

>>107057870
Never used ShutUp10, but, thank you. I ran privatezilla and stuff before, but that was years ago.

>>107057618
Extract the OEM drivers within a Windows PE environment like HirenBootCD and keep them on a USB. Then wipe the OEM install from within a 10 install USB and re-install Windows, then use the USB after OOBE to re-install all the drivers and hopefully they'll work properly.

> >107052983
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/soc/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/vp/

>>107044623
mental illness

>>107057909
Privatezilla added a lot of the same DWORDs so I guess just check

>>107059616
Alright, I will. Thanks. Seems like I'm good, searching for "DisableOneSettingsDownloads"
I appreciate it though

stop baiting me with shamiko... i don't like windows

needing to reinstall windows 10 on my shit ass gaming laptop, tried to break out the ltsc but its asking for drivers when I boot in, not sure what I need

>>107059821
Did you make the boot USB using Rufus? Is it a newer Intel based PC? You may need the Intel RST driver handy or check if Intel VHD is enabled in your BIOS and set it to AHCI.

>>107059866
did the retard thing and used dd, using the recommended woeusb instead

>>107059893
Oh yeah, dd made Windows USBs never work. You need to use WoeUSB-ng or Ventoy if you're making a Windows USB on Linux.

>>107059896
it still asks for drivers, not sure if its actually able to read nvme drives

>>107059927
Sounds like the RST driver/Intel VHD toggle might need to be done. Check your BIOS for that setting first.

Does anyone here actually know how GUIDs work? I just had a whole battle with disk cloning and I'm still not exactly sure what happened.
>Be me
>clone old windows install on SATA SSD to NVMe SSD with clonezilla
>Unplug old SSD
>Boot up on NVMe SSD, everything works fine
>Plug old SSD back in a week or 2 later after verifying the new disk works, format it in a live environment
>System won't boot, says the boot device is inaccessible
>Probably a GUID conflict, change the *OLD* SSD's GUID
>System still won't boot, error code 0xc000000e
>Unplug old SSD, system STILL won't boot, same error code
>Very confused, fire up installation media, rebuild the boot files
>Everything works now

Maybe I'm retarded, but what the fuck? Why would changing the GUID on the OLD drive render the entire system unbootable? Keep in mind the the EFI partition was on the NEW SSD, not the old one, and that everything was booting totally fine before plugging the old drive back in. Genuinely stumped here, do any of you anons have any ideas?

>>107060817
GUID is hardware based identifier.

Is there a script for recreating the recovery partition, or at least carving out a fresh blank partition with the appropriate size and flags?

Yes, a guide is easy to find online and the process wouldn't take THAT long, but there's just something about having it automated to get it done just a little bit more quickly

I asked AI about this last night and it gave me a PowerShell script. I'm sure there's a lot to be said about blindly trusting AI output, especially for something as "big" as this, but on the other hand, I'm not really all that fluent in PowerShell

>>107062364
If there's usually one thing that LLMs are good at is making automated scripts like what you want. Personally I think Gemini Pro is best at this.

>>107059938
I don't see any mention of RST or VHD in the bios

>>107062546
Is it an AMD machine? Also RST is a driver you have on a USB during install, while VHD is a BIOS setting. If you don't have VHD you must have an AMD machine?

>>107051556
>"Why are you such a fucking retard?"
>is not asking why you're such a fucking retard
Fucking retard still can't read.

>>107062561
its a Intel machine

>>107060817
Most likely scenaro is that it was using the ESP from your old drive. Remember, having multiple ESPs on one system is actually a violation of the UEFI spec, and what happens when there's more than one is totally up to whatever substances your motherboard's firmware author was huffing that day so he wouldn't throw himself into the suicide net.
I've met firmwares (mostly Gigabyte) that try to be "clever" and (for no apparent reason) cache the startup device info in NVRAM. I lean toward your machine being one of these.

Chat am I doing this right?
>activated W7with MAS TSForge
>installed Supermium
>downloading latest updates as we speak
What's next?

>>107062642
>dont actually configure your system - your unconditional love for a dead operating system and its cartoon mascot is a substitute for group policy
>collect loads of malware through the dozens of rces that will never be fixed - bonus points for claiming "m$ did it to force me to upgrade to 11 look at me im a poor victim"
>reduce your machine to a literal reddit terminal - you might as well just go use linux, which has a similar amount of usable software, but they fix about half their rces in 10 years or less
Then you're having the authentic Windows(R) 7(R) experience.

I miss Windows so much. Wouldn't want to reinstall, nvme drive is already tortured enough as it is.
Linux doesn't have anything like Explorer. I have tried them all and each one has strange usability issues. Nemo is probably the best one but even that has retarded usability issues.

>>107062642
IMO it's easier to just use Windows 7 Updated v5 to already have all those Simplix updates slimstreamed into the ISO alongside USB3 and NVMe support, but otherwise what you're doing now works fine to use 7 as a modern internet terminal.

>>107062576
>Fucking retard still can't read.
do you have autism?
because I can assure you I know how to read, and what I said in >>107051556 is 100% true so I'll say it again

no
you did not

now think about what that means, without assuming I'm a retard
if you can't figure it out perhaps you don't belong on 4chan

>>107063041
>lotsa words that mean "i cant read"
Glad we had this chat, anon. Final (You).

Installing the laptop of a friend.
Should I go with W11 LTSC IOT or the latest release?
Also what's the recommended tool to rip the Office installation package?

>>107063089
Go with IoT LTSC 2024. You can get the latest Office IMGs from massgrave's repo, or use Office Deployment Tool (which it also includes a tutorial there) to install specifically what they need then activate it with Ohook or TSforge.

>>107053321
im still in w10 with iot ent ltsc and 9800x3d
dont give a shit about the integrated 3d cache, i got this because i will be using this cpu as a server 6 years in the future and dont want to buy another gpu when that time comes

Can HWID2 be used with 25h2 enterprise?

>>107063486
Yes

What are the very first things you have to do in a clean windows install and how?

I'm assuming disabling telemetry and automatic updates.

>>107063853
My usual install flow is this.
>install completely offline
>make local account
>do a first restart before anything else
>use gpedit to turn off shit I don't like
>restart again
>install all necessary drivers
>one last restart
>connect to the internet
after that I install my browser of preference and go about my day.

>Installing apps on LTSC
>Use WinGet/Scoop or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i
But how do I get winget without store or edge?

>>107063922
wouldn't using Chocolatey just be better at that point?
I have this same question tho.

I got 10 Education through my uni, so now I have to rely on them to pay for the ESU since I'm not able to do jack shit about it?

>>107064228
why not? the MAS should work just fine. Or you could just update directly to 11 if you don't care.

>>107022054 (OP)
>https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
any way to get W10 ltsc IoT but for arm processors? the one from massgrave crashes on my VM when I'm trying to install

I tried Linux, never again. It doesn't respect your time.

As bloated as windows 10 is, at least it has easy workarounds.

>>107064603
Tell us where did the Loonix touch you, anon, this is a safe space.

>>107064603
>start up my arch linux (btw)
>have to spend an hour troubleshooting and updating and removing a pcie card because it crashes the kernel
meanwhile
>win 10
>disable telemetry
>it just werks

>>107064659
For starters the copying speed is slower than windows 11, I lost some folders because interrupting a cut operation deletes your files (I had a backup), everything is console oriented and there is no simple way of doing anything, the UI glitches more than windows and nothing is compatible with anything.

Linux is free of your time has no value, and that's true.

>>107022054 (OP)
Which services do I disable in Windows 7?

Stupid question here.

Should I run windows update? I haven't done so in over a year.
Should I update my nvidia drivers? I haven't done so in over a year.
If I run windows update, should I re-run whatever it was that I used to "clean" windows after I had first installed it?

I just BSOD'ed in a game because (according to the event viewer), my display drivers crashed. This could be the result of hardware failure. My old 1060 6GB is almost 10 years old now. Or could it be the result of some strange interaction between the game and the outdated drivers?

Windows 10 LTSC N 1809 btw

Which is the best package manager for Windows? Winget? Chocolatey? Scoop? A different one?

>>107066884
>winget
a collection of scripts that downloads normal installers and executes them in background mode
can work with applications installed outside of it or with self-updaters
can install msstore apps (but updating them is hit and miss since it relies on name string matching, not unique IDs)

>chocolatey
a collection of scripts that downloads normal installers and executes them in background mode
CANNOT work with applications installed outside of it for free (part of paid feature set) , can break if application has self-updater
CANNOT install msstore apps
has some AD/enterprise mass management features (paid)

>scoop
a collection of self-contained pseudo-portable binaries, mostly small CLI tools
not really portable because installation directory for all applications must be defined before/during first installing scoop

>>107062613
I would have thought so too, but I completely wiped all the partitions on that old drive so there shouldn't have been a second ESP for it to freak out over. The machine does have a gigabyte board though, so you might be on to something.

Anons, I just installed windows 10lot ltsc.

No internet connection, nothing else, I just installed, clean install, the sha256 is the one linked in the OP pastebin.

I'm interested in having this version up to 2032; I've already tried Linux desktop and it has too much autism and things that just don't work and I almost lost data so I don't want to touch Linux yet.

What should I do with my clean installation? Disabling telemetry and all the shit should be first and then activate it right?

I really want to do things right and don't update it and have it functioning, please anons.

>>107063922
>>107063999
>How do I get winget without store or edge?
Have you considered reading the fucking manual?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise/deployment/install-winget-windows-iot
Download the required files and dependencies from this:
https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases/

>>107067060
you don't really have to worry about updates because the point of LTSC is to only have the essential security updates.

To disable telemetry you can use the famous group policy setting, shutup10, or WinUtil if you're feeling schizo

>>107067678
I'm using optimized online and following the guide and sibling stuff from the iso before installing.

>>107067464
>without edge
Though I guess I can curl it if I look up the url on my phone or something.

>>107067060
Get the WAN/LAN driver/s from your OEM or motherboard's support page and install them.

>>107067060
>use gpedit to set policies, including manual update installation just to be on the safe side if something is fucky with MS updates
>use OOSU to get rid of the telemetry
>install Fort Firewall and block everything except the software you want to get outside
That's about it. Don't mangle the installation with scripts like Privacy.Sexy or even Christ Titus' script.

>moved firefox profile folder to 1gb ramdrive
>now extensions cannot save their settings
Is there a fix? W10

>>107066884
I use both winget and scoop. I usually default to scoop otherwise I use winget.
On my current installation I installed powertoys and windows terminal with scoop, though I'm not sure if that's the right choice since they are kind of intertwined with windows. Perhaps next time I'll use winget to install them, but I hope the other anons will tell me whether it was the right choice to use scoop for them or not

As someone who basically only plays vidya gayms on Win, does W10 IoT LTSC work fine? I really want to avoid 11 the best I can

>>107063892
>restart between every step
lol

>>107070064
>I don't actually use my computer but also want to autistically avoid 11 just like the rest of this thread
Yes it does for now. Expect new titles to not support it

>>107070064
Like the other anon said newer games have arbitrary locks on feature pack i.e. they only run on 22H2, but there's an enablement pack you can install that makes the 21H2 pack of IoT LTSC 2021 go to 22H2, making it easy to play said games.

I'm following massgrave guide to a fresh install to try it within a VM and I can't change the product key on windows 10 enterprise iots ltsc .iso to the key in the guide after I boot up. gives me an error that I don't have a valid product key when attempting on the validation page and that windows found no product key on the device. did I mess up somewhere? I installed the Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021.iso provided on the website.

also, if I go through with the mas activation anyways I get an oem key and the updates get stuck on 21h2. is this due to it being a VM? I want to install iot ltsc on my win 10 home version but I'm worried it will brick my PC.

>>107070254
Why are you trying to change the product key? You're already using IoT LTSC. Also in a VM you should just use something like KMS4k via TSforge to activate, don't activate a VM with HWID.

>>107070262
>KMS4k via TSforge
when using either TSforge or KMS38, mas script tells me windows is activated but updates don't progress beyond version 21H2, I assume enterprise iots ltsc goes beyond 21H2, right?

>>107070262
>Why are you trying to change the product key?
I'm assuming the reason updates are stuck at 21H2 is due to the activation page stating it's an oem key. or is it the fact it's a VM thats causing issues?

>>107070391
No, IoT LTSC 2021 is frozen on 21H2. If you want 22H2 on it you install the enablement package from the OP.

>>107070466
>No, IoT LTSC 2021 is frozen on 21H2. If you want 22H2 on it you install the enablement package from the OP.
okay, thank you that helps a lot.

one more question: how many outbound connections is normal while idling for iot ltsc? I used win-util to disable telemetry but still get random outbound connections while idling.

>>107070547
There'll always be at least a couple of connections even on disabled telemetry, don't worry about it.

Do I have to update windows or I'm fine with the clean version it comes when you install the iso in the OP?

>>107070627
Well if you use IoT LTSC 2021 then you're over four years behind on updates so you should definitely update.

Oh well, guess I'll go with Win 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC until I upgrade to an Ayymd GPU and Linux

>Cannot import.reg not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are open by the system or other processes or you have insufficient privileges to perform this operation.

I'm in safe mode and ruined as administrator, I'm tried to both use the SVC default state reg file and the moderate disable file listed in the ltsc guide in the OP.

Please help.

>>107071300
Fixed it, I had to remove trustedinstaller, dcom, wdisystemhost, wdiservicehost, DPS, gpsvc, trkwks, rpcSs and samSs, it seems they weren't listed.

https://rentry.org/LTSC

I did everything in this guide but when I get to the windows update part it says
>Something went wrong. Try to reopen settings later

Yeah I just can't update.

I don't know why the guide tells you to update if it doesn't work.

>>107071782
>>107071878
If you've followed the guide, then perhaps you removed something you shouldn't have during the debloat section. And in all honesty, iot ltsc doesn't really need to be debloated. If you've given up on trying to find a solution to your problem, I suggest you do a reinstall and follow this guide instead: https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide

>do a 1:1 copy of my old C:/ SSD to a new larger one
>keep the old one for safety
>run the machine for a couple of months
>no issues at all, like nothing happened
>want to format my old separate C:/ SSD
Any reason not too or keep any of these files?

>>107071929
I'm gonna try again more slowly and with the other tool the guide says, and I will use all the settings he uses (if I need something I will reinstall it later).

I want to manually download the Nvidia drivers, do I need anything or with nvcleanstall should I be ok?

>>107072040
Always use NVCleanstall

>>107071987
You probably don't need the entire windows drive, but you can maybe just save only your user(s) folder, and if you want to cut down on more, just save the downloads, documents, pictures, music, and videos folders, assuming you don't have anything important outside of the aforementioned folders. Usually the user folder would also be quite heavy due to all the junk that software puts into appdata and whatnot.

>>107062514
Aren't Windows 11's update kerfuffles because 30% of the code is AI generated?

>>107073522
I'm pretty sure that number is exaggerated. Windows 11 problems are totally pajeets' fault.

I'm doing the guide in the OP and now if I try to update it says
>Something went wrong. Try to reopen settings later.

I put windows update in services as automatic again but it's not enough.

Manually downloading the last windows patch doesn't let me install it either, it tells me the update is not applicable to my computer.

>>107073634
*Cumulative update

>>107037363
>I am forced to switch to Windows 11 soon because of my new motherboard (X870E Tomahawk)
I don't get it, why wouldn't a motherboard work with Win 10?

>>107022054 (OP)
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>>107073645
>>107073634
Ok it seems updating with console fixes this.

By the way, the .reg files listed in the guide don't work fully, you have to remove these for them to work:
>dcom
>wdisystemhost
>dps
>wdiservicehost
>trustedinstaller
>Gpsvc
> trkwks
>rpcSs
>samSs
It doesn't work otherwise (the moderate option) I ignore if they are pain in the ass telemetry or what they do, if anyone smarter than me can join in please do.

I'm talking about this guide
https://rentry.org/ltsc

The windows toolbar is not responding what could be causing it?

Restarting windows explorer does nothing, maybe I disabled something I shouldn't have.

>>107074288
The search bar and windows logo do not respond, everything else works. Please help anons.

>>107074288
>>107074369
Bwo... what is your end goal here? Why are you debloating and disabling services following that guide? Just reinstall Windows and don't debloat and turn off services. Iot ltsc doesn't really need any of that to be done and doing so won't affect performance.

>>107074427
I'm following the guide because it's in the OP. And I want to disable the telemetry. Everything else seems to be fine, it's just that the windows logo and search bar do the clock animation when you click on them but they don't load so I assume there is something I've disabled from the guide.

>>107022054 (OP)
Please remove the rentry.org/LTSC guide from the OP, thank you.

>>107074519
To disable telemetry, download shutup10 and apply recommended settings. After that, hit win+r to open up Run and type gpedit.msc then navigate to the path in picrel and set the value to 0.

>>107074603
The guide says shutup10 sucks

>>107037363
retard, get the asus 870 wifi plus, im using it on windows 10

>>107074683
The guide sucks and you shouldn't be following it. shutup10 is safe and pretty well regarded, granted you apply only the recommended settings.

>>107074720
Why the fuck is the guide in the OP if it sucks and people shouldn't be using it?

Why the fuck do you put a guide in the OP that you don't want people to follow?

>>107074730
idk, it's some win10 schizo

>>107074750
I changed the guide because I thought optimize-offline was the best option and shutup10 wasn't enough.

Please can anyone help me, why the fuck are outdated guides in the OP. Is anyone here?

>>107074750
i would give him a bj for writing the guide
provided he was gay, obviously

>>107074772
How do you fix the taskbar please, clicking on the windows logo or the search box does nothing.

I did everything in that fucking guide and now the search bar isn't working and I'm tired of opening task manager. Why is the search box not working?

>>107074872
>>107074787
maybe you shouldnt be disabling shit you dont need to

>>107074897
I followed the fucking guide why the fuck does it disable the search bar?

I updated and now the search bar doesn't work.

I'm getting anxious now, why is the search bar not working? Is there any group policy or service I should activate again?

Please, remove this dogshit guide from the OP, thank you
https://rentry.org/LTSC

>>107074913
Friendo, honestly if you're this anxious about it, just reinstall Windows and don't worry about the guide.

-Before that, look up multiple videos on nvcleanstall to get an idea on using it.

-Perhaps also look up how to use snappy driver installer origin (SDIO) on youtube

-After Windows has installed download shutup10 and apply the recommended settings and restart

-Apply telemetry group policy edit here >>107074603

-The guide you used is wrong about disabling automatic updates. You want to *enable* the group policy for 'Configure automatic updates' and then set the value to 2.

-Some other links: install winget https://github.com/asheroto/winget-install and/or scoop https://scoop.sh/
Both of them can download shutup10 if you don't want the portable program to sit in a random folder somewhere. Scoop can also be used to install winget.

>>107075182
I thought that removing stuff from the iso like in that guide was better than using shutup10 and similar tools.

He also said shutup10 fails sometimes. But maybe it's just an autist.

I just want something that stops telemetry completely, or at least I know what information I'm giving to Microsoft.

Its weird to me that something like shutup10 completely shuts up Microsoft bullshit.

>>107075182
>-The guide you used is wrong about disabling automatic updates. You want to *enable* the group policy for 'Configure automatic updates'
Can you remove that guide from the OP then? If I'm not mistaken that guide has been there for quite a while and if it's wrong then why is it still there if the other guide is simpler and achieves the same and more?

>>107075248
Windows telemetry runs deep, and shutup10 + group policy is probably the closest you can get without breaking your system as far as laymen goes. Outside of that, you're probably going to have to look at firewalls like glasswire (to see connections and block it) or simplewall (to manually allow each and every connection made by your system)

>>107075272
I don't make the threads bwo

is w11 ltsc blocking websockets?

>blue screen of death
>muh memory leak
>memory was fine

>>107058016
Dang, I didn't know you could try and cheat newer machines that only ship with Winhoes 11 like that.

>>107075734

>>107075734

>>107075734

>>107070157
>newer games have arbitrary locks on feature pack
The studios can only support feature packs that they test it on.

>>107074088
damn nice, this is put-it-in-op worthy news

>>107075637
>oh no this OS doesn't let me use a simple web browser! Guess I'll go back to full spyware.
Just use Linux god damn... You can do everything from any web browser you want. You can even use Edge if you want to be ironic.

>>107077912
LTSC is literally the same as enterprise but without the UWP apps preinstalled
same level of telemetry

>>107074913
>I followed the fucking guide why the fuck does it disable the search bar?
You are retarded. It doesn't disable the fucking search bar, YOU DID.
The search bar is disabled because YOU disabled a system app.

READ NIGGA

>>107075637
Bullshit.
DCSS-WebTiles spectator mode is WebSockets