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Anonymous No.107043687 [Report] >>107043701 >>107043710 >>107043731 >>107043800 >>107043900 >>107044005 >>107044321 >>107044673 >>107044727 >>107044809 >>107044976 >>107045754 >>107047083
>AWS: outages
>Azure: hold my beer
Anonymous No.107043701 [Report] >>107043720 >>107043753 >>107043831 >>107044317 >>107044633 >>107044913 >>107045979 >>107046033 >>107047309
>>107043687 (OP)
Why would anyone use these cloud services? They're much more expensive, less reliable, and harder to use (because you have to learn a bunch of proprietary software).
Anonymous No.107043710 [Report] >>107044824
>>107043687 (OP)
These guys probably weren't doing anything important, right?
Anonymous No.107043720 [Report] >>107045099
>>107043701
simple: before, people would shout at me to fix it
now, I get to just shrug and say "not my fault boss, MS shat the bed (again)"
Anonymous No.107043731 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
>amazon cloud fires a bunch of indians
>widespread outages
>microsoft cloud fires a bunch of indians
>widespread outages
Perfect for terrible look saars
Anonymous No.107043745 [Report]
Time to get comfy
Don't fix it too fast MS, take your time. Heck, take a long weekend even.
Anonymous No.107043747 [Report]
lol
Anonymous No.107043753 [Report] >>107044781
>>107043701
Because IT incompetence is usually worse than cloud incompetence. Usually cloud shit will work as expected and can be built up on-demand.
Anonymous No.107043800 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
AAAHHHHHHHHHH I CANT WORK AND MR SHEKELBERG IS LOSING MONEY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FIX IT MICROSOFT
Anonymous No.107043831 [Report] >>107043858 >>107043868
>>107043701
It's all just blame shifting.
>IT shifts blame to cloud because the management wanted it
>management shifts blame to CTO because he said cloud migration NOW
>CTO shifts blame to consultants who said go to the cloud everyone does it
>cloud provider says something something DNS and everyone is happy
Anonymous No.107043858 [Report] >>107043867
>>107043831
This. It simply isn't my problem anymore.
Anonymous No.107043867 [Report] >>107043870
>>107043858
Except that's not true because you're the first to get roasted by your company over and outage out of your control and they don't give a fuck that you outsourced it.
Anonymous No.107043868 [Report] >>107043880 >>107043996
>>107043831
It's easy decision for business to prefer hosting with MS and their Indian army who may have seen outrage once in a whole rather than trusting that creepy anon who gives everyone the ick and put the company in the shit because he put all the production servers on fucking Gentoo and noone could figure out how that shit worked after anon got arrested at work for downloading terabytes of illegal my little pony cartoons
Anonymous No.107043870 [Report] >>107043888
>>107043867
As they say, no one ever got fired for buying IBM.
Anonymous No.107043880 [Report]
>>107043868
How do I unsubscribe from your self-loathing diary?
Anonymous No.107043888 [Report] >>107043950
>>107043870
1) that's definitely not a lie
2) outages are miserable so your day is ruined
Anonymous No.107043900 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
winget was failing to pull updates yesterday...I figured that was a preamble for another MS breakage

Related, AWS is having issues again today too.
Anonymous No.107043906 [Report] >>107044800
>tech for full jeet and AI totally not for saving money
>suddenly everything starts breaking
Anonymous No.107043950 [Report]
>>107043888
Seems it's Front Door services being affected

That's a global service, and all those people who planned for regional failures by having a warm standby in another region are also fucked. Woops.
Anonymous No.107043959 [Report]
https://azure.status.microsoft/en-us/status

IT'S OVER
Anonymous No.107043964 [Report] >>107044131
SAAAAAAARS SEND HELP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous No.107043970 [Report] >>107044131
Oof! Ouch! Owie!
Anonymous No.107043991 [Report]
I would love it so much if there were daily cloud platform outages for the rest of time. Please God keep them coming.
Anonymous No.107043994 [Report] >>107044003 >>107044026
what's even the point of azure? More exoensive than aws in every way. Als the UI is just as bad if not worse.
Anonymous No.107043996 [Report] >>107044766
>>107043868
You joke about this, but I worked with a nigga who actually used Gentoo on company equipment and I would install EL7 over it because I couldn't be bothered to fix the autismally minimal kernel config that didn't have the drivers I needed for the job.
Nigger faggot died of heart disease a few months later. Good riddance.
Anonymous No.107044003 [Report]
>>107043994
being locked in to one particular ecosystem is the biggest reason to choose one particular platform over the others.
Anonymous No.107044005 [Report] >>107044023 >>107044045 >>107044354 >>107044717 >>107044795
>>107043687 (OP)
if azure, aws, and cloudflare go down the internet is gone
what happened? why are we like this now?
Anonymous No.107044017 [Report]
lolle the company I work for uses azure and the customers are going batshit. I just disconnected my phone ecks dee.
Anonymous No.107044023 [Report]
>>107044005
Because of economies of scale. They can offer the cheapest servers at the lowest distance.
Anonymous No.107044026 [Report] >>107044101
>>107043994
I chose it at work because Azure SQL was less autistic than dealing with SQL Server PaaS. My only other DB choice was Oracle which requires nonfree drivers built to dynamically link a specific libc or their faggy jar jdbc driver.
Basically every language I looked at has a working TDS 7.x driver that's free and open source. Fuck Larry Ellison.
Anonymous No.107044045 [Report] >>107044365
>>107044005
Just need to pump billions more into LLM's bro it'll solve everything promise
Anonymous No.107044068 [Report]
Anonymous No.107044086 [Report]
Stinkjeets are to blame for this
Anonymous No.107044101 [Report] >>107044145
>>107044026
Fair enough. I dindu no SQL stuff so I guess there are some use cases for azure, no pun intended. In terms of gpu compute pricing, they simply do not want to be competitive.
Anonymous No.107044106 [Report]
Outages are the best time ever
Self-hosting fags could never understand
Anonymous No.107044131 [Report]
>>107043964
>>107043970
Anonymous No.107044145 [Report]
>>107044101
Shop fronts don't want to use Amazon, their competitor
Temu, Walmart, etc.
Anonymous No.107044317 [Report]
>>107043701
because you need to sue someone if shit goes down. Economy is a non stop loop of risk shifting because you don't want to be responsible for someone's lost revenue.
Anonymous No.107044321 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
don't worry, it will be much worse in the future
Anonymous No.107044328 [Report]
>tfw US Gov Cloud still works
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IT'S NOT FAIR
Anonymous No.107044354 [Report] >>107044745
>>107044005
Jews
Anonymous No.107044365 [Report]
>>107044045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmJJ0lUyQc
Anonymous No.107044633 [Report] >>107044677 >>107044972
>>107043701
Because muh offsourcing muh cheaper muh redundancy

But as proven by AWS and now Azure going down: None of that shit matters when you want 99.999% uptime or get reamed in business profits.
Anonymous No.107044673 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
Imagine using *neNote when Notepad++ is in your software center, now those cucks can't work because all of their shit is in buggy onedrive limbo maintained by thirdies.

Whevnever theres an outage i have to wonder if they're just getting hacked. anytime they get hacked or exfiltrated surely they call it an outage as well?
Anonymous No.107044677 [Report] >>107044829 >>107044909 >>107045128
>>107044633
As if any small company can provide 99% uptime. They are just as jeeted as anyone else and will have shit qos as well. The only difference is it will be more distributed when it happens
Anonymous No.107044717 [Report]
>>107044005
Poop skinned people
Anonymous No.107044727 [Report] >>107044745 >>107045999
>>107043687 (OP)
On premises wins again, why did we migrate again, boss?
Anonymous No.107044745 [Report]
>>107044727
see
>>107044354
Anonymous No.107044753 [Report]
Tommy G kino
Anonymous No.107044757 [Report] >>107045033
>Pinging microsoft.com [13.107.213.69] with 32 bytes of data:
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
Anonymous No.107044766 [Report]
>>107043996
If you're gonna use Gentoo in production at least make it a binary only install and/or build the binaries elsewhere.
that said, I'm not sure you could completely remove the compiler so you could get some exploits there since Gentoo will always have a compiler ready to be called
Anonymous No.107044781 [Report]
>>107043753
>t. Cloud Pajeet
Anonymous No.107044795 [Report]
>>107044005
Boomers love for the Poojets clouded their minds.
Anonymous No.107044800 [Report] >>107044982
>>107043906
Come on anon you can't seriously be proud of that road design
Anonymous No.107044809 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
AI will prevent this.
Anonymous No.107044824 [Report] >>107045071
>>107043710
>Fire 9000 white employees
>Hire 10000 jeets
>Outages become commonplace on platforms that used to boast about having 99.9% uptime
Complex systems will not survive the poos festival
Anonymous No.107044829 [Report]
>>107044677
>They are just as jeeted as anyone else and will have shit qos as well.
t. Jeet

I don't disagree that 5-9 uptime is nearly impossible, but you're dumb if you think not having your shit on-prem isn't head and shoulders better for situations like this.

>Oh shit, Dallas has a cut pipe?
>Redirect everyone to New York/Seattle/LA/Chicago!
Anonymous No.107044851 [Report]
Has WWIII just begun?
Anonymous No.107044909 [Report] >>107044928 >>107044936 >>107045935
>>107044677
It’s pretty trivial to do. have you ever actually built servers + server racks? Or are you just a coonsumer?
Anonymous No.107044913 [Report]
>>107043701
Retards falling for sales pitches. I swear I could've built a house out of free fucking Yeti mugs by now if I spent the time to listen to every cloud salesperson who offered me one.
Anonymous No.107044928 [Report]
>>107044909
Fuk u saar my vilag took 500 Brahmin and twenty days to get server on.
Anonymous No.107044936 [Report] >>107044969 >>107045065
>>107044909
I work at azure
Anonymous No.107044969 [Report] >>107044997
>>107044936
Saar the system is down please do the needful and kindly fix the servers
Anonymous No.107044972 [Report] >>107045016
>>107044633
To be fair, all Amazon and MS documentation explains how you're supposed to do multi-region setups for things you want serious uptime on. Having all three of your kubernetes nodes sitting in us-east-1 is not redundancy just because you used different availability zones. Hell, I don't like doing anything in us-east-1, it's so damn big it's doomed to have problems.
Anonymous No.107044976 [Report] >>107044995
>>107043687 (OP)
Why do cloud outages seem to happen together like this? It seems like one will have a big outage and the other will do the same thing a few days later.
Anonymous No.107044982 [Report] >>107045018
>>107044800
this one's much better
Anonymous No.107044984 [Report]
>wanted to download VS Code
Fucking freetards can keep up Codium instances longer than M$.
Anonymous No.107044995 [Report]
>>107044976
One tectonic plate shift bumps into the other. Rippling instabilities after any outage make a second outage more likely, at any scale. A shitload of people massively moving stuff from AWS in a panic to Azure could have thrown extra load on there, some people probably had systems that failover between cloud providers.
Anonymous No.107044997 [Report]
>>107044969
Not my team, don't care
Anonymous No.107045016 [Report]
>>107044972
this is affecting Microsoft's CDN provider (azure front door) that's why so many MS sites are down right now. MS official advice right now is to change your DNS to point directly to your origins rather than via their global CDN/reverse-proxy service. So even if you diligently set up your infa to have failover occurring to MS guidance and paid the extra for having that failover, your still being completely hosed right now
Anonymous No.107045018 [Report] >>107045027
>>107044982
>Resurrection Cemetery
Anonymous No.107045027 [Report] >>107045037
>>107045018
Anonymous No.107045033 [Report] >>107045043
>>107044757
is it just me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN3x-kAbgFU
Anonymous No.107045037 [Report]
>>107045027
>King was writing about a real place
Dose this mean a clown haunted Maine in the 50s?
Anonymous No.107045043 [Report]
>>107045033
Microsoft.com won't even load for me
Anonymous No.107045044 [Report]
This is a real non-ai generated road designed and built in a certain country (you'll never guess which one)
Anonymous No.107045056 [Report]
My cluster exists in multiple datacenters.
Anonymous No.107045065 [Report]
>>107044936
So, no. Understood
Anonymous No.107045071 [Report]
>>107044824
azure never had 99.99% uptime
its the worst cloud platform imaginable
only retarded businesses get duped to use this garbage because of "microsoft incentives"
Anonymous No.107045099 [Report] >>107045412
>>107043720
this.
I use proprietary software strictly because of this.
Foamers can't comprehend the concept of not wanting to overwork yourself for no reason.
If it breaks it breaks, who cares the world is better without needless terminally phone bound addicted faggots anyway.
Anonymous No.107045128 [Report]
>>107044677
So wrong.
Anonymous No.107045201 [Report] >>107045775
>Starting at approximately 16:00 UTC, customers and Microsoft services leveraging AFD may have experienced latencies, timeouts, and errors.
>AFD

extreme left has mixed Azure Front Door and Alternative Für Deutschland and they are now denazifying the internet?
Anonymous No.107045412 [Report]
>>107045099
>the paperclip bow and arrow tribal battles during the Great Azure Outage of 2019
My peoples in Operations held the line against the BizReqMgmt tribe's assault for lo two days
Anonymous No.107045754 [Report] >>107045909
>>107043687 (OP)
on prem chads would be winning except they'll do the math and realize they still have more down time and shut up before bringing more attention to this
Anonymous No.107045775 [Report]
>>107045201
kek
Anonymous No.107045898 [Report]
If I was Huawei I'd be partying right now
Anonymous No.107045909 [Report]
>>107045754
>more down time
seriously doubt this

also at this point AWS/Azure have had insane downtimes you can do literally nothing about

servers can literally go decades without a single update or change and NEVER crash

but whoops, some jeet nigger at amazon dropped a . in the DNS
Anonymous No.107045935 [Report] >>107045956
>>107044909
how do you deal with some cracka ddosing your shit?
or if your server room catches on fire? 99%?
Anonymous No.107045956 [Report]
>>107045935
if you have DDOS problems you set up a POW mac mini bootcamp proxy.

servers don't catch on fire, just like your desktop and laptop doesn't catch on fire

also imagine betting that AWS isn't so incompetent that some Jeet doesn't whoopsie doopsie delete a trillion files one day, tick tock
Anonymous No.107045979 [Report] >>107045985
>>107043701
>buy space in a datacenter
>pay for cabling and installation of hardware
>pay rent and security
>management patching of OS
>administrate the machine
>go through entire process again when you run out of capacity
vs
>hit deploy
Anonymous No.107045985 [Report] >>107046290
>>107045979
>pay $10,000 for $1000 in services and still goes down because they hire Jeets
>implying that 99% of what's hosted on AWS requires more than a Mac Mini.
Anonymous No.107045999 [Report] >>107046132
>>107044727
Our bosses attended seminars sponsored by the big cloud providers talking about all the upsides while conveniently leaving out the real downsides.
Anonymous No.107046033 [Report] >>107046054 >>107046132
>>107043701
You don't need an in-house IT department if someone else's computer will do it for you.
Tech workers get fired, the industry becomes a monopoly, then suddenly nothing works and we all wonder why.
Anonymous No.107046054 [Report]
>>107046033
unironic given AWS requires someone to manage it, it's one of the most convoluted and annoying hosting options out there, if you fire your IT department you're even more fucked with AWS because you need a nerd to even log in let alone manage anything
Anonymous No.107046132 [Report] >>107046147
>>107045999
Fucking this. Big data, cloud solutions, AI, it's all the same shit purple dragon chasing to justify change for the sake of change.

>>107046033
As long as office workers still use laptops and in-house software, a company still needs an in-house IT department.
Anonymous No.107046147 [Report]
>>107046132
>As long as office workers still use laptops and in-house software, a company still needs an in-house IT department.
Logic would dictate that. But there are external providers that offer this service.
It works about as well as you'd think.
Anonymous No.107046194 [Report] >>107046321 >>107046355
Damn, they really really dropped the ball this tirme
Anonymous No.107046279 [Report] >>107046303
97% SLA? What the hell do you need 96% SLA for? Come on, just because we advertised 99.99% that doesn't mean we can provide the ridiculous 95% number you're asking...
Anonymous No.107046290 [Report]
>>107045985
>not my problem because everyone blames the platform now
Anonymous No.107046303 [Report] >>107046343
>>107046279
99.99% uptime? Who would need 80% uptime? I don't have 50% uptime! Help a madman is trying to kill me over my last 10% uptime! You'll be hearing from my lawyer about that broken 99.99999% uptime contract!
Anonymous No.107046321 [Report]
>>107046194
>azure healthcare api
These niggers are going to get someone killed.
Anonymous No.107046343 [Report]
>>107046303
No need to get that low, 94% means 21 days offline per year.
How far away from that are cloud providers anyway, lol. It's incredible how shit they are.
Anonymous No.107046355 [Report]
>>107046194
They should have listened to him

warned you about microsoft

all that shit about ransomware

azure is the biggest ransomware
Anonymous No.107047083 [Report]
>>107043687 (OP)
Just disable Copilot, bro.
Anonymous No.107047309 [Report]
>>107043701
It’s a marketing trap. But also a job guarantee since everyone’s in the same trap. You got a couple cloud engineers or "DevOps" that lobby for AWS or any other hyperscaler, NaiveDate managers that write down some decision report littered with logical fallacies, and a few years in the sink cost is so high you can’t get off of it, and instead of doing productivity work you’re sitting in myriads of FinOps meetings, where even fewer understand what’s going on.
Engineering mangers are promised cost savings on the HR level. Corporate finance managers are promised OpEx for CapEx trade-off, the books look better immediately. Cloud engineers are embarking on their AWS journey of certification being promised an uptick to their salaries. It’s a win/win for everyone, in isolation, a local optimum for everyone, but the organization now has to pay way more than it—hypothetically—would have been paying for bare metal ops. And hypothetical arguments are futile.
And it lends itself well to overengineering and the microservices cargo cult. Your company ends up with a system distributed around the globe across multiple AZs per region of business operations, striving to shave off those 100ms latency off your clients’ RTT. But it’s outgrown your comprehension, and it’s slow anyway, and you can’t scale up because it’s expensive. And instead of having one problem, you now have 99 and your bill is one.
Anonymous No.107047672 [Report]
Msft doesn't care about you. The big dogs are openai, Walmart, govt, black rock, etc. Nobody cares that some no name bookstore in Ohio lost connectivity. Boo hoo, that Walmart contract is still $100b