Thread 107059589

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Previous: >>107043972

I didn't do anything today

goodnight /twg/

what causes this?

learn a trade

>>107059764
The Federal Reserve.

>>107059764
>teachers
>nurses
>"I love my job"
anon, I...
maybe some 10 years ago. maybe.

>>107059806
cool it with the antisemitic remarks, chud.

should I subscribe to cursor pro and ask my employer to reimburse? i think they will

Everyone I've ever met who got a "I want to le help people" job was an insane nightmare, they're coping with some inner darkness I think

I had a great time at github universe. It was very reddit-y but the people I met were cool. Thanks for the good times guys

attention please, we at the Seattle cafeteria track your consumption habits and take our jobs very seriously. Thank you for your attention to this matter

>>107060773
No thanks, I have Rust.

>>107059973
how is your employer not forcefeeding you aiaiaiai? Instead of asking for a subscription like a chump it is your golden chance to start the aiaiaiai initiative@ the company and ask for a rai$$$e for your efforts while you continue doing even less work because of your new found tasks

>>107060773
I gooned to his latest video
ugh
fuck
need to do it again

>>107060794
AIAIAIAIAIAI
Awaken my masters and bestow thy dubs blessing upon me

>>107060840
next you'll say, those were supposed to be MY dubs

>>107060866
wtf those were supposed to be MY dubs
WHAT?!

>>107059764
My job is alright. I just hate myself. And people.

>be a glorified devops/automation faggot with a """software""" """engineer""" title
>"stalk" a random actual software developer in our company
>go through his entire git history, Jira tasks, Confluence pages
>pretend to have his knowledge and experience in interviews
Wny yes, I do have 4 YOE in C++, Python, redis, SQL, AWS, and general backend knowledge, how could you tell?

So the reward for finishing a proyect that involved terrible legacy code in just a couple of weeks is another project that is even workse.
I'm the only one to blame though.
Leason learned, I'm going to sandbag this thing till they fire me.

>>107061200
This is how I can tell you aren't Indian. For an Indian faking it and lying are just as natural as breathing. You wouldn't make a post about breathing, would you?

you guys ARE going trick or treating

>>107061400
I'm going to play a trick on your bussy.

>>107061400
No I reject american culture

>I'll have time to work on this next week, see you then
>Hey, I have this [basic problem solvable by reading two lines of log], can you please solve this for me right now?

this fucking asshole is a lead

my biggest gripe with my job is that I have obviously put in 5x the effort to land this gig than these helpless morons

>>107061493
>my biggest gripe with my job is that I have obviously put in 5x the effort to land this gig than these helpless morons
You are autistic, they are not.

Why work hard when you cannot work hard?

>>107061400
toss up between dressing as a terrorist or just cross-dressing and making shit up on the spot for what im supposed to be

>>107061600
Just crossdress. It's the one time in the year where you can live out your fetish in public.

>be me
>quintessential boomer autist free software enthusiast luddite
>don't even own a phone because I like having a functional attention span
>employer wants me to download this app and that app and use them to access company resources and scan this code and that code
>have to choose between my principles and the desire to eat

tech dystopia is ghey af, thanks normies

>>107061685
Principles are gay.

thank god it's friday am i right fellas

>>107061728
Wanna kiss and make out?

have you guys tried not being total chud pieces of shit?

>>107062167
i wanna fuck them i wanna cum on those pits

>>107062167
You mean be hired for your gender to fulfill diversity quotas.

wake me up when the geek uprising starts.
I'm going to power shoryuken the cloud into the fucking stratosphere in some totally legal and lawful manner as soon as I figure out the way to do it without committing a crime.
/gug/

>>107061685
It's your choice.

>>107062167
By that logic nobody from HR would ever get hired.

>>107061685
Lol just say no. It's wrong to make people to hang out in some external chat when email is the right format.
I've seen people in lead positions who don't ever sort their inbox. One guy had thousands of unread emails in inbox because he could not be assed to filter reports and such.

>>107062302
you can get one of these. https://token2.com
clearly they are more secure, your global admin ought to agree assuming he's not a retard.

>>107061685
>you can get one of these. https://token2.com
>clearly they are more secure, your global admin ought to agree assuming he's not a retard.
oops, wrong post

>>107059589 (OP)
this image is even funnier when you're in a team where scrum is properly implemented and actually working well

>>107059854
Teachers may actually have it a bit better now since birth rates taking a nosedive means classrooms with less kids

>>107062399
lol, lmao even

good luck pushing for that in some bank or insurance company

>senior data scientist ML AI LLM Engineer peeepeepoopoo whatever
>full remote
>big 4 consultant

The money's great, the load is minimal and I'm fucking miserable. How does one leave the b2b saas mines? I wanna train a fucking LLM at a lab, not maximize stakeholder value and drive actionable insights

>>107062540
I do not understand. Are banks or insurance companies against security or something?

>>107061400
I've never gone trick or treating as a child

>>107063509
damn that sucks. some of the best childhood memories are running around the neighborhood treatmaxxing with friends on halloween, and if you're lucky running into the hot girls group from school too

>>107063509
I have but since it's not really a thing here and especially wasn't back then people didn't have candy so I got a bit of money and some apples

say something nice about LibreOffice anon, the team needs your moral support

>>107063549
the lack of testosterone in this image is palpable

>>107063509
for me, it is the chad tradition of slavic wet t shirt contest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7U5cOUBcnA

>>107063549
just werks

>>107061541
You must be one of my teammates
I enjoy being brought in and made aware of the stack ranking and seeing how poorly you are regarded. Imagine spending your life doing the bare minimum and squandering your potential

>>107062167
A.I. rage bait. Anyone who responded to that tweet is retard.

>>107063727
>Imagine spending your life doing the bare minimum and squandering your potential
I do the bare minimum and get paid extremely well.

>>107063646
What a beautiful tradition

>>107062447
>less kids
FEWER kids. Get your grammar straight, anon, lest we assume that you have not completed your own childhood schooling.

>>107063878
>if you get mad you lose
outdated millennial faggotry
the new gestalt - whoever gets the maddest wins

>>107063969
holy mother of zoom zoom are you even employed anon? maybe you should be in /utwg/ instead

>>107063969
I am perfectly serene at all times but I have a network of bots that I direct to spam vitriol and nigger nigger nigger at anyone who posts something I disagree with. Where does that put me?

>hour long weekly meeting is about to end
>have two hours until another 1 hour long meeting starts
its gooning time

>>107063969
>muhleenials
Why are zoomies so bitter?

>>107063881
>squandering
Life is deterministic and nature is brutally, mathematically, precise. Nothing is wasted

>>107063291
>"I want to train LLMs"
You already know the answer.
You're not good enough to land a gig in OpenAI, so you make do with a lesser company that doesn't even train their own models.

>>107062447
you might be right in that people are having fewer kids. also, immigrants being deported and indians being denied visa renewals might contribute.
but then, school managers just fire some teachers instead of making classrooms more comfortable
but you missed the point entirely. the pandemic created disasters for teachers and nurses. also, the current generation of parents is so shit, kids are basically NPCs these days. teachers have to suffer that shit. because of that, many teachers have left the profession forever...

How long should it take to get the "Azure AI Fundamentals" certification?
Guy from MSFT emailed me about how I needed to get it...
Should take 1-4 weeks right?
I've got AWS/GCP Associate certifications

>>107064035
based

>>107062167
insane bodies

>manager-to-slave ratio exceeds 30% now
It is fucking over. Who tf needs this many managers. What are they even doing.

>>107062167
are women unable to reflect on themselves? these two most probably got their jobs mostly because they are good looking...

>>107064291
write a message to your companys directors maybe?

>>107064291
My company is literally 50% managers, 40% "senior" SWEs, 5% principal engineers, and 5% normal/junior SWEs...
no idea why they are doing this...
this is a private company that would be worth ~100 billion btw

>>107064304
>write a message to your companys directors maybe?
>anon, it appears you are hostile towards the decisions of our company (TM), I am sorry, but we can't work like this, bye
Nah. I'll keep low profile and not rip my ass reaching weekly goals.
>>107064319
>50% managers
Are they men?

>>107064345
>>anon, it appears you are hostile towards the decisions of our company (TM), I am sorry, but we can't work like this, bye
make it anonymous then. how hard is to send an email through guerrillamail or whatever? just use a proxy or VPN. no one will research anything beyond the source IP.

>>107064345
Yes. My office is ~80 people and there are 3 women total:
>principal engineer (who is useless btw, completely relies on "I got my CS degree from Stanford!")
>junior engineer (black diversity hire)
>receptionist

>>107063956
bad grammar is a valuable signal - it is more likely you are talking to a human, gramps

>>107064373
If a bot was trained on 4chan data, it is very likely to have bad grammar

Hey guys, anyone got experience with buspirone? It seems to make the terror disappear without nuking my libido.

>>107064291
My team has 5 people.
>3 engineers
>1 manager
>1 project manager

>>107064469
Your team has 3 people.

>>107064469
I had it so good at my previous job. Lead developer (manager), three senior engineers. Then the lead developer decided that he didn't wanna manage anymore, they hired this cunt to be a non-coding manager and I left the company six months later.

and that's five
now i must turn my attention to a pressing deployment of booze into my human infrastructure
we have no rollback plan

So I'm new to a team with a micromanager. Have an awkward situation where an (underperforming) senior on my team scheduled a 1:1 with me to complain and vent about the micromanager to me. On one hand - I agree, our manager is bad, on the other hand - this employee is objectively not performing very well. That said, I have a good relationship with our manager's manager - not sure if i should tell them about the cultural problems this team is having. Any senior managers/directors that can help chime in?

I was considering working today but idk, it's both Friday and Halloween.
Megabonk it is, then.

>>107064660
The correct action is not to contact the manager's manager. There are two reasons why:
1. You must always follow the chain-of-command. I know it sounds gay and retarded and larpy but it must be so. Corporate takes breaking the chain (aka messaging a superior's superior directly) to be a serious disrespect of the hierarchy.
2. Complaining just means you see a problem. Within HR circles, the first hypothesis will always be that YOU are the problem. The first thing in their mind is firing you, they'll only considering hearing your arguments after you're proven innocent (you won't even be given a chance to defend yourself btw). If Stacy is on her period or if Debora got pumped and dumped last weekend than tough luck pal, you're shown the door.

>>107064660
The only thing I'd consider doing is talking the underperforming senior to rat to the manager's manager themselves. That way you're out of the blast radius.

>>107064795
This, but only if the underperforming senior is a minority.

>>107064660
Are you German by any chance?

>>107064795
this is the best option desu

>>107064776
>>107064795
Thanks guys - this is what I tried to subtly encourage them to do (talk to the manager's manager). Not sure if they actually will, but I'll keep my nose out of it as best as I can I guess.

>>107065023
Nope

I started a project using react, a front end for a chatbot
Did I fuck up by not using angular or vue?

>graduate EE
>spend months looking for job
>finally get hired
>$18/hr
what was the point of going to school again?

>>107065221
>EE

>>107065204
Nope. React is the most popular one.

>>107065235
Great, bc now I also need a mobile app and react native was the natural option

>>107065204
Everybody does React. Some people swear by Angular but imo React is more than fine

>>107065204
yes, you fucked up BIG TIME
but it's still not too late to start over again using BLAZOR

>>107065204
jquery or bust

>>107065204
React is hated because it's popular. It's not a bad framework at all.

>>107065342
nowadays you probably don't even need jquery, any LLM will spit out HTML+vanilla JS just fine
>mobile app
It is called the browser, unless you are doing something that needs to access phone resources like gayming, there is literally no reason to build an app instead of a responsive webpage. I mean, no reason from the user's POV, obviously all the gay corpos want a piece of dedicated screen estate, but still, the perfect app just opens your webpage in the default browser

>>107065567
>there is literally no reason to build an app instead of a responsive webpage
Notifications.

how long does it take to get a job?
my gf is graduating in december in cs and has been applying for like 2 months, and nothing. she's done internships and shit. i was just offered a job when i completed my internship so there really never was a job search for me.
she's going hard and has like 3 interviews lined up right now, but zero offers.

>>107065221
why do zoomers assume they will get paid well immediately after graduating?

>>107065643
>woman
>can't find a job in big tech
She must be really retarded.
Are you even legally allowed to date her?

>>107065675
because boomers did

>>107065675
>do everything "right"
>spend 22 years of your life studying for some useless shit degree because it's what you're "supposed to do"
>bust your ass off, go into STEM which is supposed to be the well paying field for smart people that work hard
>can't find a job, now you have 60k in loans you can't declare bankruptcy for
>if you do find a job there's a 99% chance it's not in the top 1% of fagman companies so you're making 70k a year (60k after taxes) and rent is $2,000 a month
yeah I wonder why they expect to be compensated well

>>107065681
the problem is she doesn't lie enough. i'm pretty sure she has the autism (a tautology, i know). you can like crazy on your resume it's not like anyone checks it.

i'm just bitching, really. my job is remote and i wanna get the fuck out of where i'm living now, but it's probably smart to wait and see where she gets an offer from.

>>107065675
why should someone with engineering skills be making barely more than minimum wage?

>>107065722
>>107065770
tell me how I know you have never worked a single day in your fucking lives without saying it

jfc, this board, and even this general, is full of students. you faggots are RETARDED and USELESS. what companies pay for is not academic credentials, they pay you to do SOMETHING USEFUL, PRACTICAL, TANGIBLE, and most importantly, something THAT MAKES THEM MONEY

Good morning,

I am facing a challenge on my PC. There is an anomaly showing on my screen, possibly virus. It looks like a blue skeleton waving its arms.

Please do the needful and revert on a warpath footing.

Warm Regards

>>107065806
sir please press f5 on your keyboard this should remove the blue skeleton

>>107065820
Good morning,

Thank you for the timely response sir. I have completed the ask. Now I am facing three skeletons upside down! Please revert.

Warm Regards

>>107065841
>boomer
I'm not even american lmao
I've worked ever since I was a kid. your fantasies are funny. you will be paid well in a year if you are good enough, yet you are crying about getting paid badly.
the entitlement, impatience and lack of attention span is astounding. no wonder no one wants your useless generation...
calm the fuck down and be realistic you retard.
also
>>>/utwg/

>>107065876
good morning sir

>>107065675
Median starting salary for BS in CS at my school was 110k in 2019

>>107065204
I see this market going 80% React 20% Angular in the future. React has Meta and Angular Google backing it while all other frontend frameworks don't have that.

>>107062167
This isn't terrible advice in general.

>>107065931
>Angular Google
google abandons literally everything, dont count on this surviving
react is better than it anyway

>>107065882
>CS
try reading
>>107065221
>>graduate EE

>>107065643
She needs to look in a big city

>>107066014
yeah i think you're right. i really wasn't wanting to go live in fucking california or austin but i think focusing hard on tech centers is a smart idea.

>>107065675
Because every year, there are people graduating and immediately landing 200k+ jobs. The catch is that these people represent <1% of the yearly cohort, and they're almost always a cut above the rest. I was one of these people. I graduated about 5 years ago. Currently making 375k in cash at Netflix with a 700k NW. I got this job after working 3 years at Google where I wrote infra code that affected a quarter of the world's population. I got that job after interning four times at FAANG. I got those internships because I had a 4.0, interesting projects, and could solve leetcode hards in my sleep.

The cold truth is that most fresh CS graduates today are less capable than I was when I was 14. The difference is when I was 14, I knew I was a retard and didn't expect a top paying job the nanosecond I send out a couple apps. Degrees mean nothing if you can't execute, and if your idea of execution is a TODO app and other resume clutter, then no wonder you're not hearing back.

>>107065615
Also boomers and convenience
Our clients are external

I hate my braindead colleagues.
>Pull request with 3 files changed
>Currently at the 5th iteration of going back and forth
>All A.I. generated trash
>Unit tests that are duplicates of other unit tests and don't actually test the bug???
>half the unit tests in the file for some goddamn reason got changed, so now there are 2 different styles
>In the mean time the other reviewer, approves everything after every iteration, without even bothering to take a look (which is kinda based)
How do you deal with those braindead colleagues that refuse to put in any effort into delivering something decent.

>>107065733
I didn't lie at all on my resume and got into fagman. Maybe just have good qualifications?

>>107066305
you could do that or you could just lie instead

>>107066305
Mmh no I think I'll just lie sounds easier

>>107066380
>>107066388
not him but i was a manager at big tech before i went back to being an IC. it's hard to spot liars during interviews, but it's pretty easy once you're onboarding. everyone embellishes, but people who outright lie are writing checks that your manager is gonna expect to be able to cash out later. when you're oncall debugging a spark app, and you spent the onsite bragging about your expertise with apache tech, your manager is gonna assume you can handle it. if you can't expect to be fired, and fast. i had to fire four people during my time as manager, and all of them had lied about core competencies while interviewing. you can lie if you want, but everyone will know, and you'll be lucky to last a year.

>>107065643
>You are currently at position 462112 of 800604 in queue to get a job

hey guys my grandmother and pet goldfish are wondering why they cant get jobs in cs? should we invest in tulips in the meantime to make some money?

>need to rename a file and change some imports
>tell AI agent to do it
>it takes 10 minutes and generates 5 readme and quick start guides
>I sit back and do nothing while it works
it's a good life

>>107065722
You didn't study 22 years of your life for it. Only the college years.

>>107066447
>you'll be lucky to last a year
one more year on resume. roll in into another lying position. monkeybar forever.

>>107066550
if there's one thing hiring managers love, it's a resume full of dozen 1-year gigs. you sound new, but just fyi, it takes about a year to onboard and be capable of handling larger projects. if I see a resume with anything but long-term 4+ year tenures at every company listed, it goes in the trash. this is a common sentiment in big tech.

>>107066576
>anything but long-term 4+ year tenures at every company listed
Good luck when the average tech tenure is under 3 years.

>>107066587
there's no fat on our team currently, and it's because we filter retards like you out at the resume screen.

2.5 weeks since my third and final interview. Emailed the recruiter 9 days ago and again yesterday, no answer.
How the fuck are you going to be a huge company but also ghost applicants after wasting their time?

>>107065615
you can't do notifications on a webpage bro? Come on now

>>107066689
>you can't do notifications on a webpage bro?
Correct.

>>107066587
>average
how do you think statistics work?

>>107066689
literally no one wants that shit

>>107066576
yeah, I've been at my job for 1.5 years and in meetings with other teams I still don't know half the jargon they throw around. I ask my coworkers with 5+ years and good chance they don't know either

So sick of working with tech illiterate boomers that can't do adapt to anything new

>>107065567
>>107066689
Why build a website when you can just use linux with curl

>>107065996
My post isn't related to that post in any way?

can someone point me to resources on large scale deserialization architectures
at work we support 500+ companies that send us data in their own format and our job is to convert it to our own, do some enrichment and display it to them
right now we "solve it" by having ad hoc deserialization scripts for each individual version of each format for each company, and the integration churn is massive
ideally we'd invert the dependency, but then clients would drop like flies and there wouldn't be any additional guarantee that they wouldnt fuck up then blame us

im sure theres a keyword im missing on this, data pipelines might have a similar problem but i cant find information for handling format cardinality at this level

>>107066877
what is it, just like random excel/csv files or something

>>107066877
Just have AI do it, or have AI write the script to do it. That's actually something it generally does well, if you can give it a mock input and expected output.

>>107066889
csv, json, sometimes xml, maybe some other shit, frankly we have no visibility into this and the mappers just run arbitrary code so who knows
data gets pumped in through a bunch of different sources, sometimes they call an API and just http post, other times they push it to an FTP server we give them access to, other times we reverse integrate with them by calling their API / reading into their FTPs
>>107066906
worst case scenario these files are like 300k lines
I think we have some initiatives in that direction but im not sure how well its going to work, AI might fuck up too much to automate it but the alert noise is so high for integrations that I'm sure people are just going to manually accept whatever AI sharts out

Have you guys tried going trick or treating?

>>107066943
sounds pretty aids, i have to do something similar at work but luckily theres a "standarized" format for what we work with we've been able to push people towards, that way we only need to handle that
at least if you have a strict output format you can try to minimize fuckups on the mapping stage

>coworker's last day because contract won't be extended
>they keep telling him to leave
>he doesn't
>they end up just extending his contract

>>107066966
i wish we could standardize it but frankly the domain doesn't even make enough sense in and of itself
we had something that worked a couple years ago that represented a specific line of products then corp wanted to expand and support "everything"
so some architect just decided to represent some shit with arbitrary json
except instead of just allowing arbitrary json we have our own type definition for a json with thousands of keys that are all optional and we try to convert whatever bullshit people send us into this definition which sometimes might even involve computing / guessing at values
the annoying shit is that it doesn't even matter because unsurprisingly a lot of the same terms mean completely different shit when looking at different types of products

>>107066236
I just stopped caring
(I actually care a lot and get very angry, but I pretend to be detached on the internet because that's the only way to cope with it)

>>107067064
nigga got game
can't hate

>>107066689
>turn off all notifications
>every 2 weeks they just make a new notification category that defaults to on
I fucking hate notifications

>>107066236
Reject the pull request. Forward rejected to their manager, your manager, and the other reviewer's manager with one line in the email:
"This work is unnacceptable and I am escelating it to your attention. Please call me if you have any questions or need me to explain further."

>>107067278
This but don't forget to sign "Fucking jeets."

>>107067278
Don't forget to dust off your resume before you do this btw.

>>107066236
Feed the PR into a LLM with a prompt to just find a few questions to ask them about why they made particular decisions (especially the bad ones), not being critical at all just asking about it.

Either they have to justify their slop, or they try get an LLM to justify it and look completely retarded, or they realise they need to fix it.

Just do this every time they give you slop.

Depends how checked out they are, if they wont even read their own code there’s nothing you can do, at least they’ll probably be fired before you. Look for a new job if most of your team does this and nobody else cares.

Question, will I get reported to HR if I ask my black co-worker to fuck my wife? He sits in the cubicle next to me.

>>107067404
good morning sirs

so you DO take pull requests discussions seriously after all huh?

>>107067599
we all have our own repos and work on our own shit independently
i think there was only one time i touched another persons repo and it was after i talked to them in teams and they just told me to push the change to the one file i wanted changed

>>107067556
I fuck you bloody

>>107067064
jej
It was just that simple, who knew

Am I - quite literally - the only person who absolutely fucking hates threaded discussion in instant messaging platforms? At least it feels that way, and I just don't get how come it's become the de facto standard for wagie communication.

Whether it's slack or google chat (and I guess it's also a thing in discord now), every fucking time a messaging platform implements chat threads, it turns into an absolute clusterfuck as 'the chat' turns into a pseudo-mailing list, pseudo-forum, pseudo-chat with the worst features of all these paradigms and almost none of the good sides.
People start throwing important announcements in the chat room as if it's a mailing list, even though it'll be buried under (above?) 40 completely irrelevant messages in the span of 2 hours. You can often see people duplicating discussion because someone replies with something in a thread under A's message 2 days later and B couldn't see it, so now there's four fucking threads in which different people are discussing different aspects of the same thing. And then, since everyone's in the chat room anyway, visibility is assumed and people lazy out on properly closing a topic by summarizing and documenting it, even though this isn't stackoverflow where you can properly search, so information just tends to get lost in the depths of nested messages.
And even though it should technically reduce the noise, if you want to be on the same page as all your mouth breathing colleagues, you kind of have to enable notifications for all messages/replies in a chat room and constantly get spammed about all sorts of irrelevant discussions you don't care about.(discussions which a lot of people wouldn't have there, had it been a regular long running chat)

>>107067910
the one that annoys me is retarded boomers who @ every person in the world as if it needs all of their immediate attention

>>107067910
I hate "quick call?" messages on teams and how retards are not able to explain shit in 1 or 2 paragraphs. I also hate when coworkers or my boss forward shit to me without explaining anything, making me responsible for shit, and then I found out they missed details that made me waste time.

>>107067941
what does this mean? CC >>107068050 >>107067910 >>107067812 >>107067810 >>107067797 >>107067725

>>107067941
>>107068063
>what does this mean?
just letting you know that they are working on something

>>107068063
*thumbs up reaction*

I should've listened to my dad and become a plumber

Today I had a philly cheese steak for lunch, and it was pretty good! But a bit watery so part of the roll disintegrated and some of the meat fell out which I had to eat with a fork. Also it's annoying at the Microsoft cafeterias because each stand has its own ordering kiosks, and most of the time you can't mix&match with another stand unless they're right next to each other. I wanted fries too, but had to do a separate transaction at another stand to get that. It's just annoying.
Also, did anyone at your jobs dress up for Halloween? I saw a few people on campus in costumes, but nobody I work directly with did

the internet was so much better when it wasnt 90% brown people.

now everything is smeared with shit, just like the countries they are from, the spaces they occupy, and the ancestors they descend from.

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>>107068105
I do this only as a sign that I read your message and I will get to it once I have time to do so. So for any Anons that might by annoyed by it, keep in mind that could be the reason.

>>107068402
That too, but I just use as a substitute for a reply when I don't have anything to say about it, don't know what to say about it, or don't want to reply but don't want to be rude by just leaving them on read

>>107068354
The British didn't run a 100% white empire.
The British didn't say "the british empire was better when it was 100% white". They said "the british empire is the best because it's 95% white"

>>107059589 (OP)
Anyone into COBOL banking stuff?
There's a job opening where they don't ask for experience, but they will teach us this stuff.
Is this a good career move or idiotic?

>>107068354
the internet was better before mobile phones.
the smart phone and its consequences have been a disaster for the internet.
in the past you needed a physical computer to access the internet and you could only do it at certain times and in certain places. the low barrier to entry for internet access, combined with the profiteering that followed has resulted in what we have now.

>>107068221
multiple stands? multiple kiosks? are they like different restaurants?

>>107068221
wtf? microsoft makes you pay for the food?

applying to large tech companies feels dystopian because I just know if I'm applying to microsoft, google, facebook, apple, they have basically all of my information already in their system and they're screening me to make sure i'm not a chud (i already failed at step 1)
like someone at google sees my application, then matches it to my search history, and finds dozens of "is X jewish" searches

>>107068865
yeah like what they don't get comped outside food too? I Mean fuck i have a hotel room comped to me as i travel the world full remote

>>107068909
logging into facebook and linking your personal account to the work one is literally part of onboarding at Meta

>>107059589 (OP)
>just went to vegas for my company
>lead ai dev so had to be there to get us meetings
>pretty good, few guys who are chomping at the bit, possible straight integration with one of the big players, meaning a buyout thati'd get cash from
>realizing all the stupid cord squids and other freebie shit allowed me to keep all my weed vape stuff fully charged.
>every biz meeting is people chomping at the bit for demo
>it's lit my job to do and it's a ton of work for me to get through on top of getting the code production ready
>gemini might drop upgrade any day and make my life easier.

start up life, how's it treating everyone else? i swear just teling bitches "ah yeah i spent a year in europe" is like complete pantymelter in the states, and being american with a tech job similarly in europe

>>107068943
I don't even have FB

i WILL work at fagman

>>107068768
Each cafeteria is like a food court. The stands all have their own little kitchens and menus. They all share the same IT and payment system though.
>>107068865
Yes, at the Redmond campus at least. They hate us.

>>107068221
>go to microsoft careers
>look up my stack
>first 20 results are all in "hyderabad, telangana, india"
lmao

>>107069054
Yeah, they're going to be a mostly Indian company in less than 10 years. They'll only keep engineers elsewhere in the world to cover on-call shifts so the Indians can spend a little bit of time with their village and get some sleep.

>>107068996
>I don't even have FB
I didn't see that option, sorry
iirc it said "use your personall account, please dont make a new account"
the idea that someone might not have fb wasnt considered

>>107069066
imagine wanting to work at fucking microsoft

like holy fuck. the worst part of using linux is people think you know that horrible shit. Imagine having to use windows day to day even.

>>107069098
I don't want to work here
It's just the best I could get

>>107069047
My fav part of redmond is how the TV's don't fucking work with windows. reactor was cool though

>>107069104
i'm sorry for your loss anon

is that reactor girl single?

>>107069104
>It's just the best I could get
Actually, correction: I did have an offer from a smaller company for a little more money, but I had a bad feeling about it. Didn't like the product and they seemed kind of like a weird cult.
>>107069106
>>107069108
Huh? What TVs? Also I honestly have no idea what Reactor is

>>107062447
Not really. For several decades school boards around the country opposed building dense apartment complexes because they tended to bring in far fewer tax dollars than single family homes but added more students that had to be accommodated by the school system.
Now that there is a shrinking population of school age children, school systems are shuttering schools and laying off teachers and administrators. They're panicking and pushing for lots of dense, subsidized housing, mostly for immigrant communities, because they have lots of children. They need larger enrollment to keep their schools open and maintain employment for students and admins. Even if those housing units produce less property tax revenue for the school system, it's still better than nothing, which leads to layoffs.

>>107059764
Nurses are massive whores
Funnily enough they often end up married to engineers

so, I'm kind of obsessed about finding an alternative source of income, something non tech or tangential to tech. I'm good at what I do (offensive sec) and could make good money if I tried hard (and got lucky...) but for some reason I'm completely convinced that this field has no future. am I wrong?
all my investments have been fucking retarded, so I don't trust my judgement much. like, I've been thinking for more than a year that solar is the future, but then I've spent the last year realising it's not really a good business: it would take me like 6 years or more to recover any invested money, and, considering that panels last for 20 years and that energy prices are not stable and literally anything could happen, I would have to keep working to maybe hit it big or go bankrupt in half a decade, maybe even less...
wat do?

Today was my first "real" day at "work" in an "actual" "job"

I am not sure how to feel.
I was left alone to study for ages, felt bad for slacking off on it after the first week, but also that nothing could have really prepared me as well as actually seeing the equipment and what connects to what and how. I assumed there would be much more freedom, but was informed that it's usual "system is as designed (in 1977)" stuff, yet was regaled with stories of seemingly minor modifications with far-reaching implications combined with being stopped by corporate from doing actually very minor part replacement. The culture is very good, and is about what I expected in terms of all being ex-mil people cooler than I, but also an equal measure of ex-mil people less cool and more larper-y than I (to say nothing of contact with active mil people). The systems themselves seem more straightforward than what I gleamed off of engineering documents, but also much more capricious. Even the system that was the 'killer app' part seems to be a footnote for actual activity. As usual with anything in IT, everything Just Werks except for specific "robust" systems that have an insane number of points of failure for how simple they are, and things that rightfully should be incredibly complicated seem quite simple. I guess I never really did learn anything, did I? But also, did anyone else, ever? I am confused, expect the answers to come with experience, have been explicitly told not to feel overwhelmed, and yet feel there is something crucial that I missed but also do not feel overwhelmed, and am making myself feel overwhelmed over that I do not yet feel overwhelmed.

It's crazy to think that if I had just done Revature back in 2021 (I was like a hair from accepting going into their bootcamp program) I would be making 6 figures by now.

Instead I languished and fucked around for 3 more years, and now I finally got a job but it's fucking garbage, just scripting making $47k.

Holy fuck I wish I had known.

We got all the bloggers in the house tonight, ebin

damn this fucking skull fracture will probably never heal

>>107069343
Y'know, in Jewish Stuff, there's a concept used in Passover: basically, to have an excuse to explain everything in excruciating detail every time, there are Four Children who have some questions to answer:
>the Wise, who asks a complicated question with a simple answer
>the Wicked, who asks a simple question with a complicated answer
>the Simple, who asks a dumb question but is answered for the benefit of everyone too embarrassed to ask such a dumb question
then
>the child who does not know how to ask a question
imo the latter is the most important, and is the reason not just that holiday but all holidays continue to exist -- there is someone who has no fucking clue what is even going on, and someone needs to tell stories and raise questions for the benefit of the new generation lest they have to suffer the things being mourned or celebrated first-hand once everyone else forgets about it and repeats history

for example,
>Why are you firing rockets at my house?
>Why can't you stop firing rockets at my house?
>Who is firing rockets at my house?
>Where are my legs?

>>107065882
Zamn

>furnigger is a jew
Oh. So that's why this is allowed.

claude sonnet 4.5 is incredible

if AI is so good, why hasn't replaced me personally despite my innumerable sins

>>107069135
you were looking at salesforce hunh?

also the microsoft branded tv's in reactor it's in redmond. it's microsoft's donation to the tech community, space used for hackathons an shit. google maps it it's probably close to your office

>>107068221
I attended the microsoft halloween festival yesterday, did you go?

>be not the worst developer at the company but also not the best so i just fade into obscurity
anyone else? i just silently do my work good and that's about it, a pretty chill life overall

If I play my cards right I could retire by 40, maybe even 38

>>107066503
Sounds like a waste of tokens, similar to asking it to undo while the last bit of work is in unstaged changes, and you are probably doing huge ecological damage and driving up electricity prices just so you can avoid a few clicks or keypresses

>>107070376
>Sounds like a waste of tokens,
not my problem
i like to argue with the ai when it gives wrong information and make fun of it

>>107070010
>anyone else
About 95% of people...

>>107063291
It's not all it's cracked up to be, trust me.

How to ask an English native colleague to spellcheck his messages to me? I'm an ESL and having hard times to understand some of his sentences when he picks wrong tense or replacing "by" with "my" or sort of.

>>107070632
>nigga you're not making much sense, use a grammarly

>there's like 2 managers per each tech employee
My company is fucked isn't it

>>107070645
>nigga
We're close but not that close.

>>107064121
I don't think I've reached my skill ceiling yet, otherwise I'd feel fully engaged with my current work. I'm not learning new shit as often as I'd like, and I have a strong dislike for yuropistan's mediocrity culture.


>>107070618
Can imagine the culture may be annoying and fake, but I just wanna work on something cool... not big corpo's hyper specific niche product. It's not even a money thing at this point.

>>107069277
>>107069277
no one checked my dubs

>>107070654
That's what boomers wanted the whole time.
50 managers 25 employees.

>>107069925
>you were looking at salesforce hunh?
Nope, but it might have been a similar vibe
>>107069960
>I attended the microsoft halloween festival yesterday, did you go?
I didn't know there was one! Also, no I wouldn't have gone even if I did.

>>107069925
>it's microsoft's donation to the tech community, space used for hackathons an shit.
I don't see it on google maps. Is it the same as "The Garages"? I think there's one of those near me, but I've never been.

>>107070654
Eh, could still be salvageable. It's not exactly uncommon for orgs to get reorganised so that there's fewer managers.

>>107070654
>>107072130
How else are people supposed to grow if not through management? Ageism is real. People consider a 50yo developer a loser and won't hire.

>>107072387
Everyone knows managers don't work though.

>>107072387
>grow
>management
ahahahaha

>be me
>work at Tesla engineering HQ
>absolutely no black women present

>>107065722
>dropout
>military for a little
>get dev job as I start college
Skill issue

how long should i work for nvidiar as a contractor, should i apply to microsoft for sd1 without a degree? i really want a remote job that pays 200+/year.

>>107068909
i use a separate email and phone number for all my business shit, i don't understand why people use personal emails for work lol

>>107072947
I mean, I'd probably use a separate address too if I was applying to Google, but I don't see anything wrong with using firstname.lastname@gmail.com to apply to Tom's Friendly Software Co.

>>107068980
You sound brown and pleb

>>107066036
motivation

im latino (what's that like 7% representation in tech lmao), not all brown is bad, some of us were here first actually. anyway if you're looking for a new team, never join an indian team, i assume that's the 'brown' that ur referrin' to right? indians are all the same, even us born ones follow the same principles of deceit.

God damn, the "staff level" engineer in charge of this project I'm on might be fucking insane. I can't tell if he:
a. genuinely has no idea wtf he's doing and is just vibe coding through it all
b. is actually just fucking retarded, or
c. is operating on a mental level that I can't comprehend
The whole thing is a god damn mess, and whenever I ask what the plan is he gives me a two word answer and then ignores me.

>>107073220
trust the plan

>>107073075
preach, amigo

>>107073220
One of the funniest realisations I've made (becomes really apparent when you interview people) was that seniority and actual skills only have a mild correlation kek.

>>107073427
if you survive as a junior swe you become senior after 3 years, on average, but it doesn't mean you can whiteboard a linked list

>>107073427
Yeah, that happened at my last job. I got interviewed by a guy, and I thought "oh if he's doing the interviewing he must be pretty good". Then after I got hired, I saw one of the internal libraries he wrote and it was fucking insane. After he got laid off, i had to maintain it and all of the bugs and half finished work nearly drove me insane too. Then again, I've looked at my own code from years ago and said, "this is insane".
I don't know what the point is... but the guy leading this project I'm on is definitely insane

/twg/, would appreciate your input
>>107073354

>>107073726
what's the question?

>>107073726
here's your answer:
get another job
in the meantime, complain as much as possible about your LLM tools and follow this guide: https://www.corporate-rebels.com/blog/cia-field-manual

>>107067910
>you kind of have to enable notifications for all messages/replies in a chat room and constantly get spammed about all sorts of irrelevant discussions you don't care about
why do you think you need this? I message some of my coworkers and don't get a response for days. it's covered in our stand-ups; we just say "give them a second nudge"
seriously nobody fucking cares
and if I'm using a thread to contain a conversation that you muddy up by replying outside the thread then you can go fuck yourself

>>107074124
I swear to god half of my colleagues are following this word for word like it's their fucking bible

>>107074389
I cant imagine the shitty gymnastics. Youre just going to have to start your own biz already.

>>107074418
nta, if i have to play these faggot skirmishes just to keep a job i might as well just start my own biz.

Should I take a suboptimal job over unemployment?

>>107074858
Depends

>>107072762
banchod bastard bitch mans!

>>107074858
i took a job that pays 10k less per year but i enjoy it more

>>107075179
I'm worried that I won't enjoy it more, since it seems to require out-of-country travel like every couple of months based on what they told me. Pay is also worse, but at least it's more than zero.

>>107075207
>require out-of-country travel
if they pay for it then that might be fun

>>107075239
I hate travel, so I doubt I'll have fun doing it. And if they didn't pay for it, I'd told them to shove it. Why the fuck would I donate my own salary for your in-person whiteboarding shit?

>>107075267
my company made me go to one of the worst shithole cities in the country. Every night there was an open bar so that made it more worthwhile i suppose

>>107074858
I'd take a job that pays 30k a year as long as I can do the data science that I want.

>>107074858
of course anon don't be retarded, if anything keep looking and then leave that job as soon as you find something else

>>107074858
I took a job stayed a week before I got a +30k offer

>>107075557
I imagine you don't put that shit on your CV.

>>107075583
of course not kek

>worked in IT support, into basic Windows sysadmin jobs
>since covid, worked remotely
>was a lazy worker, eventually quit because I kept getting pushed to go to company events I didn't want to go to and ran out of excuses
>quit in 2024, moved back in with parents, went travelling and lived off Bitcoin gains for 2 years
>now just want a comfy remote job so I can get an apartment somewhere

I've been applying but not even getting interviews, it seems every job has hundreds of applicants. Is the market fucked now and saturated with remote indians? What do I do?

Was even considering teaching english online

>>107075666
>quit in 2024
>lived off Bitcoin gains for 2 years
what does living in the future feel like? Also those 2 years were wasted

>>107075666
The market's fucked but the fact that you have nothing to show for the past two years is a red flag even during good times.

>>107061493
Just sandbag the task. Tech leads are always trying to offload difficult jobs to other devs while taking their credit.

>>107075666
You fell for memes. The people that tell you to quit your job to enjoy life don't care about you. It's less competition for them.

spent all day debugging an issue where chrome via selenium wouldnt launch in a k8s pod and it turned out to be because the newer version of chrome needs a "crashpad" directory to store some sort of crash reporting db and i had no idea this was even a thing since it apparently just gets configured automatically locally but not in a pod. k8s makes me hate programming man and i really regret using selenium for this project in general but its too late to refactor now.

>>107073075
>ey holmes i be one of them based nonwhites you all been talkin about. like nick fuentes!
yeah but... you are still brown? like your skin is the color of poop?

>>107075839
I knew a guy who was dumb as fuck and still got a job after 10 years of being away. The trick is to have certifications in nonsense and speak with confidence even when you're blatantly wrong.

>>107075819
>>107075839
>>107076204
Brown hands wrote these posts.

>>107073726
Usage of AI is the best argument against it.
If they like the shit results you better look for another job because it's going to tank the company.

Took a leave of absence so I can work full time on this side project for a few months. Struggling to not buy some weed cause I can work for 14 hours per day no problem when high but the rest of my life just collapses.

weekly on monday afternoon, they're going to be talking about sportball since of course I love this country. what do I say about sportsteam 1 vs sportsteam2

enjoying your weekend, /twg/?

>>107077650
stressing again what do I say about sportsball.

>>107077650
Saturday's gone again with nothing done

>>107077650
yeah sure

>>107070376
>waste of tokens
I get unlimited premium tokens for any model from work. I don't give a shit

>>107077606
White people went from being conquerors to being dainty little flowers that need multi-year retreats to recover from their made-up mental illnesses.

>>107077582
Can you get a job after being a NEET for years? Yes. Does it make you look worse in the eyes of recruiters? Also yes.

>>107075666
depends on how low of a wage you'd go. around where i'm at, i could get an entry level ($25/hour) tech job in a week just by applying on indeed. these jobs suck though because it's mostly manual labor and not actual coding. i get so many interviews that i have to cancel them, and i changed my minimum to $70/hour since i got a higher paying job at a stable company and i wouldn't leave for less. i did not struggle to get interviews, i applied with only a resume, and i have no linkedin account, no degree either just a high school diploma. it's honestly my resume that sets me apart, specialized skills are in demand. but it's still not enough to get easy interviews for developer roles. my portfolio needs more projects on it, then maybe i'll try for an apprentice role at google

>page 10
h-hello?

>>107081731
its over

>>107081731
Everyone's on-call this weekend and dealign with severity twos

>>107081731
It's sunday.

>>107081731
There are only 4 employed people in this general

>>107081731
we're all watching animays today.

I am watching 2h training videos

a salary slave vs an hourly slave?
you guys are literally required to be available 24/7 lmao you are never truly off. at least with hourly you're done after your shift

>>107083875
>you guys are literally required to be available 24/7
Nope.

>>107083875
salary for me. I can barely deal with a fixed work schedule... I'd probably kms if I had to be available 24/7.

>>107083936
Tranny

>>107083875
>be required to be available 24/7
>as a result your actual daily duties are severely diminished
>your main duty is to be the on-call guy
>never really get called except in rare cases
>never leave the house anyway cause autism
>doesn't even matter if you get called cause you were at home anyway
>literally get paid extra for doing nothing

>>107083875
I (>>107083979) misread your post

>you guys are literally required to be available 24/7
??? why do you assume this? I assume the opposite: hourly = on-call slave
I'm not a dev, btw. or an IT retard.

>>107063549
I look like that.

Phone is currently vibrating from status updates of some jeet doing work at midnight on a sunday

>>107083875
the employer can randomly decide to fire me whenever he wants already
it's not like i can go "i was here during my 8 hours shift everyday, you cant fire me"
I can do everything right and they can still fire me whenever
so yeah id rather have a salary and manage my own time

I live in a country with laws and shit, so salaried employees aren't beholden to work 24/7.

How do I politely refuse to review PRs that obviously used AI? I don't like this idea that I should do all the work as the reviewer to point out all the issues the AI introduced

>>107084700
ask AI to review it.

>>107084700
Escalate to manager.

>>107083875
>at least with hourly you're done after your shift
My experience with hourly wagie shit is probably not the norm but I worked as a mover.
They'd say I'd be working from 7:45 to noon, only to end up working until midnight. And they'd call me on my off days, telling me I had to help with a move in an hour
The kicker was that I only made $18/hour plus tip

>>107084700
Send it back saying you’re not going to debug it for them, and if they’re going to use AI it needs to be perfect by the time it gets to you

>>107084700
LGTM, why do you care?

Hello sirs
Are you ready for standup tomorrow

>>107084666
What's the difference between salaried and hourly employees in your country?

>>107085388
One gets paid a fixed fee every month.
Other one gets paid for however many hours they worked.

>>107068909
I'm on the loop for google with my chud email doe

new thread pls

>>107086021
>>107086021
>>107086021
>>107086021

if i do 50 hours a week i can earn 10k/month. overtime is so worth it, if the job is easy and i basically get paid to travel/fly too. if it was salary i won't get OT, but maybe would have enough base to match it idk

>>107085403
I know that. What protections do salaried employees in your country have that prevent them from working excessive hours?