Thread 107070683

Oh no what will eternally outdated debian users do? Is there a distro that's even more outdated?

>>107070683 (OP)
considering how shit apt is, i wouldn't want its ever existing shittiness to be reflected on rust in the future.

>>107070683 (OP)
windows 7 is 100% resistant to rust

>>107070683 (OP)
Rust is a virus that steals all your personal data. It's a trojan horse pretending to be programming language

It was made by a bunch of faggots

>>107070804
>windows 7 is 100% resistant to rust

Based. Installing now!

>>107070683 (OP)
>not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software on retro computing devices
you can still use rust and still support such "retro computing devices", whatever the fuck that faggot means by that. what i'm getting out of it is basically there's going to be a performance hit and old shit isn't going to cope with it.

>>107071262
no, rust just doesn't work/compile on non corporate approved platforms (by design)

>>107071277
>doesn't work/compile
>by design
i wish you all the best with your crippling illness

one step a time troonix is becoming a reality. you have lost, chuds.

>>107071599
>one step a time troonix is becoming a reality. you have lost, chuds
You have to install Windows 9 and delete troonix right now, chuds.

>>107070804
And it has a modern Firefox-based browser that is anti-Rust.

>>107071663
I have an r3dfox installed. so no problem here!

Just keep making up problems instead of getting a real job

Windows XP is 1000000000% resistant to Rust

>>107070683 (OP)
explain this like I don't program and don't understand what rust is

>>107070683 (OP)
This is the same person. He's a total dickhead as you would expect
https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/10725

they're including the rust compiler in the base system?

>>107071898
guess devuan will keep non rust apt

>>107070683 (OP)
>rewrite existing working software in rust meme
why do people keep falling for this? rust isn't some magical bullet that's going to make sure your parsing code is correct

>>107072016
Besides that, apt is already mature as fuck. Rewriting it will result in what happened with coreutils on Ubuntu. At least make a mature version in Rust before introducing a large dependency...
Also, keeping up with the latest is retarded. It is like saying we shouldn't rely on the wheel because maglev exists and then forcing cities to make maglev car infrastructure.

Rust causes memory leak

Don't use it

I remember asking about a rust free distro on Reddit and getting really butthurt responses.

Just like retro computing was permanently crippled by SSE2 requirements in modern software, some tech irreversibly inserts itself into the ecosystem.

>>107072016
because no one wants to maintain it, whites aren't exactly jumping on the opportunity to volunteer for a dogshit application written in the world's worst programming language

>>107071789
> that generic trans picrew at the top right
the artist is clearly an expert in this field...

>>107070804
based
aero glass doesn't oxidize, after all
win11 has rust in the kernel now lmao
>>107072016
>>107072052
freetards are eternal updooters. they updoot so much that their systems literally break if they didn't updoot for too long. init is obsolete, must updoot to systemd. xorg is obsolete, must updoot to wayland. alsa is obsolete, must updoot to pissaudio and so on

>>107072300
>freetards are eternal updooters.
get rid of freetards now

>>107072300
>freetards are eternal updooters. they updoot so much that their systems literally break if they didn't updoot for too long.
Take your meds

>>107072300
>they updoot so much that their systems literally break if they didn't updoot for too long
>xorg is kill
not even bad llms are this retarded

>>107070683 (OP)
>Hard Rust requirements from May onward
ohononononoononoo HAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAA

>>107070804
> ev
> in stead of een or eun
> short subq needles
HoN option promptly discarded

Sauce: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/10/msg00285.html

>>107072324
win10 eol/eceleb shill newfags don't know this but linux distros literally break if you don't update them for too long, with arch being the best example where pacman -Syu can literally destroy your system after months of not updating

>>107072497
But my 1 year old steam, discord and firefox kiosk just werks though?

rust feels like cloudfare.
inorganic forceful growth.
only hidden agendas show this type of behavior.
nothing good can come from it.

I contacted a jew guy (lunduke) on email in order to asking to making news about Debian makes Rust a hard requirement in May 2026

So, no surprise

>>107070804
resistance to rust is not a valid metric sweaty

>>107070804
this

the niggercattle can see that there's no light at the end of the tunnel, yet they keep walking forward, even when there's a bright and warm glow right behind them...

>>107070683 (OP)
Are you somehow implying that this is a problem?

>>107072874
>there's a bright and warm glow right behind them
>the glow

not my problem
i'm still using windows seven

>>107070804
>can run all old & modern applications just fine
>more secure than loonix with simplewall, sandboxie and basic hardening
>not dependent on any servers to function
>fast, lightweight, simple AND beautiful
>JustWorks
>made by white people and will never be touched by jews
>extremely based community
>certified 100% pedotroon resistance

So... it really was "Ultimate" after all...

>>107070683 (OP)
WOW!!! I SWITCHED FROM UBUNTU TO DEBIAN EARLIER THIS YEAR BECASUE OF THE ONGOING TRANNYWARE-IFICATION (FOR NO GOOD TECHNICAL REASON BTW) AND THESE RETARDS DECIDE TO TORPEDO THE LAST VIABLE COMMUNITY DISTRO? FUCK THAT! I'M GOING BACK TO WINDOWS, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IF I'M GONNA HAVE A LOCKED DOWN PIECE OF SHIT OS ANYWAY.

What exactly are these platforms that Rust doesn't support but that people use Linux on in 2025?

>>107070804
https://doc.rust-lang.org/rustc/platform-support/win7-windows-msvc.html

>>107071277
Given how the ecosystems are closing off, as well as for devs (verified developers program), users (remote attestation and system locking down) and sellers (not allowed to make contracts with embargoed entities), this assertion is not totally unplausible in a far off future.
Since open source is open to supply chain attacks and deliberate malevolent projects, this is not crazy to think that code compilation and distribution will be only possibly made on trusted machines.
Problem is, who, besides corporations, will be in charge of control and this will pave the way for underground compilers.

>>107070683 (OP)
soon, you will only be able to compile code if you are an approved developer with adequate social credit score. compiler auto injects score evaluation code for end users or some shit for each build. shunnn-nuh

>>107073446
>Problem is, who, besides corporations
nobody. why would they allow it? just like you won't be able to service your car by yourself. you need to take it to an authorized repair shop and connect to their wifi first to put your car in "service mode"

>>107072633
>cloudfare
>inorganic forceful growth
This my friends is the absolute state of /v/ clowns
My only hope is that they rape you harder

>>107073237
But how does this affect you personally?

>it's important for the project as a whole to be able to move forward and rely on modern tools
>and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software on retro computing devices.
spoken like a true zealous faggot. eat shit and die nigger sudo rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root

>>107073265
the last time i checked, i think all official debian ports had rustc packages already. so it would be unofficial ports, or whatever naming they use for their port tiers.
and even for fringe/legacy architectures with no LLVM support of any kind, you can theoretically get rust working reliably enough in the not distant future with rustc_codegen_gcc, but that won't happen within months, unless millions are dumped into it.

>>107073237
install gentoo newfag

>>107073237
AAAHH IT MAKES PERFECT FUCKING SENSE!!! I LOOKED UP THIS INCEL GERMAN FAGGOT JULIAN ANDRES KLODE. TURNS OUT! HE'S AN UBUNTU CORE DEVELOPER... HAHAHAHA!!
IT'S A CANONICAL TROJAN HORSE TO ALSO TORPEDO THE UPSTREAM DISTRO WITH THEIR DELUSIONAL TRANNYWARE. OF COURSE!!! PERFECT SENSE. BACK TO WINDOWS 11. HOW COULD I BE SO STUPID TO THINK FREE OPERATING SYSTEMS WILL BE ALLOWED TO EXIST??

>>107074211
why is it always the G*rms

>>107070683 (OP)
Slackware, if you want something that's somewhat close to debian there's Salix (basically slackware + a fork of apt named slapt-get).

>>107070683 (OP)
does rustc even support all of Debian's architectures?

>>107074945
Usecase

>>107070804
>>107073276
>>107073265
>>107074945
Rust may be somewhat supported on windows 7 but the biggest turnoff for jeets and troons is that since it's EOL, they can't pad their resume with "developing" on in since it's useless (they can't get a job maintaining old systems because those companies only hire normal people)
Ecelebs gatekeeping normies with their security garbage is also helpful

Will there ever be a truly chud approved distro or must I fork TempleOS?

>>107073785
>sudo rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root
--no-preserve-root is only needed when you do rm -rf /

Soon we'll only have Gentoo and BSD. Systemd was truly the thin edge of the wedge.

>>107074956
last time I checked rustc could only do amd64 and arm64
I want to use riscv

>windows 7 project
>check maintainers
>0 trannies
Even if linoox ever becomes as usable as windows, it will never have this

>>107075163
kek, any Linux distro can literally stop working overnight when some jobless tranny runs out of gibs and stops hosting his centralized repositories

>APT (software)
>Written in C++,[3] shell script,[3] XML,[3] CMake,[3] C,[3] Perl[3]
can't they make up their mind? jesus christ

>>107070804
Linux mutts will have to keep taking their de-oxidation vaxx while the immune windows 7 ubermensch just point and laugh
>just one more jab bro and linux is saved

>>107075288
>win 7
>2025
you fuckers are deranged
just learn something new, it really isn't that difficult

Everything on linux is developed and maintained by mentally ill retards who never held a job in their life
I once wanted to donate money to help develop linux desktop but I realized all that money goes to lgbt parades and conferences (which are the same thing in practice)

>>107070804
>>107075163
>>107075288
Reminder that windows 7 is still a microsoft product™
Enjoy your full telemetry and lgbt spyware faggots
https://unlocked.microsoft.com/pride/

>>107075627
>faggots
one day you're gonna type this word and your kernel will brick automatically

>>107075660
>le heckin firewallerino is gonna save me
wintoddler your shitware OS is proprietary closed-source spyware

>>107075691
your trannyware "OS" is effectively proprietary (hundreds of million of SLOC + proprietary blobs, nothing reproducible of course) and feds can open a root shell on your pc any time they want
also your cpu and motherboard are backdoored lmao

>>107075723
Kek, this. US, China and Russia all have their own backdoors in the Linux kernel.
You don't think XZ utils was the only one, do you?

>>107075691
Both dolphin and thunar crashed for me last week.

>>107075627
your operating system doesn't work

>>107075627
Reminder that Linoox desktop is managed entirely by neets and teenagers with nothing but gibs to keep them going as well as indians padding their resume with trash commits
Also they barely get any of those gibs since sponsoring pedophilia campaigns in United States is a better expenditure according to the suits

>>107075683
>>107075723
>>107075778
>>107075814
yeah xister
keep sending your data/logs to the microsoft troons
maybe they can give your a nice pride flag in the search bar as a reward?

>>107075823
How does that affect you?

>>107075842
not at all
winiggers are the biggest LGBT allies after all
congrats

>>107075861
All it takes is some tranny's melty for your distro to fall apart though

>>107070804
>trans person giving away hormones
this never happened, 99% of trans people are broke as fuck

So, what's the best way to get windows 7 up and running?

>>107075901
>Download windows 7 ultimate with Service pack 1 from massgrave
>download simplix and update
>install simplewall

>>107075748
>>107075723
>Notice how the lintroon conveniently fails to acknowledge this

>no rustc on SH4
dreamcast sister what do we do

>>107074211
>LOOKED UP
It's literally spelled in the OP screenshot, dumbass.

>>107070683 (OP)
i'm more of a go guy

>kill Ian
>put systemd in
>put Linus into a vacation-style treatment camp
>put rust in kernel
>now rust in debian too
It's times like this that I'm glad I'm a BSD user and I'll never have to deal with Rust again once Ladybird hits.

>>107076227
Your years are numbered.

>>107072167
not rewriting a major part of the application would be less maintenance

>>107071884
What an insufferable kike.

>>107074211
Good find. Explains a lot actually.

>>107075683
>Try so hard to offensive
>No one cares
Sad

>>107070683 (OP)
>Canonical employee
>I will rewrite apt in Rust
>you have 6 months to adapt
Did Ubuntu take over Debian? Is it basically dead?

>>107076375
Wrong.

>>107072052
Oxidization of Linux == converting everything to MIT or BSD licenses. The corpos want ownership of the plantation, and they can't have that with GPL, so it has to go.
They've got Ubuntu. Is Debian on the same path?

>>107070683 (OP)
How many ubuntu developers are debian developers as well?
Might be time to stop using anything debian related.
Canonical and Red Hat have far too much influence on debian.

>>107070683 (OP)
Ubuntu added shit ass Rust core utils in 25.10 and now this shit so even the upstream gets troonware. What other distros exist that aren't PooHat-based or for tinker trannies? For server use exclusively. I wish BSD would just take over.

>>107071169
>It was made by a bunch of faggots
that's all i needed to know.

never touching rust.

>>107070683 (OP)
i'll just switch to an OS that doesn't depend on rust.

He should be tracked by the Russian SVR and they will looking to take it down immediately

>>107075627
Your post is a faggot

>>107073932
Go back to Windows 7

>>107072638
Already, the jew (lunduke) has posted on X about the Debian making a hard rust requirement on APT in the future

>>107071169
>Rust is a virus that steals all your personal data.
source: your ass?

>>107071169
rust is closer to tetanus, its intended purpose is to paralyze further development of a stable distribution.

>windows starts losing market share to Linux. However small but still.
>India announces investing into Linux
>Fedora announces code made with AI
>Debian announces code made with Rust
This cannot be a coincidence.

>>107070683 (OP)
ready to leave, is arch accepting

>>107073609
keep glowing, lowtier cuck.
also it's /g

>>107075053
i love rust threads because of all the tech illiterate /g/eets making shit up on the go while seething.
i would ask you to post a picture of a RISC-V device with feet, but people already had their daily dose of 2nd hand embarrassment for you today, both online and in real life.

>>107076012
https://dreamcast.rs/

https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc_codegen_gcc/issues/49

is it true that C++ was a tranny language at first? If so, can rust be chudified in the same way?

>>107078926
Have you seen what "modern C++" looks like nowadays? It's getting trooned up just as well.
There is no escape from this horror.

>>107070769
is this bait, what's wrong with apt?

>>107071884
He's right

>>107079450
operating from memory here, but the last time i used debian (sid/unstable 2 decades ago), it was a SLOW mess of multiple tools with some intersection in functionality/purpose. the tools were/are written in 4+ languages as another anon mentioned. someone (i think the mint guy) created a "super tool" that encompasses all others under one interface, and it had hundreds of subcommands, which is an indication of wrong retarded complexity. 4+ tiers of run-time dependencies is retarded. separate *-dev packages is, was, and will always be unnecessarily retarded. building your own packages wasn't the easiest streamlined well-documented-for-average users process. i could go on and on and on. and the fact that the freeze-the-world "stable distro" model itself is a facade of logically incoherent presumptions doesn't help.
compare that to pacman/makepkg which was already nearly perfect back then, a coherently designed package manager that is the right kind of simple: not bare-bones, not retardedly complex, lightweight, fast, debuggable/deconstructable, non-disruptively iteratively improvable, and trivial to build with.

>>107074211
it seems tranny jannies banned the all caps dude for a pretty reasonable post if slightly petty

>>107078458
>i would ask you to post a picture of a RISC-V device with feet
pic rel
>but people already had their daily dose of 2nd hand embarrassment for you today, both online and in real life.
only amd64, i386 and arm64 have "Tier 1" rustc support

>>107080102
>retards still don't know gcc doesn't even have the concept of tier1
lmao

>>107080131
you don't need tiers when GCC supports literally everything

mossad guy already posted it on x
i emailed it one day ago.
https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/1984670603387765154#m

>>107078981
I only don't like the overuse of auto because it makes the code harder to understand. Also why is the text gray instead of black?

>>107070683 (OP)
This will only be included from the Debian 14 stable release i assume. So two more years.

>>107070683 (OP)
Don't worry, we'll switch back to Windows XP

>>107077852
Actually based opinion. Soon we'll have RedHat and Canonical own everything and y'all be happy because "popular and well supported" and "rpm cool" and something something in subhuman.

>>107070683 (OP)
Based Rust killing another project.

>>107080324
tech illiterate /g/eet #4567815990

>>107080131
When everything is tier 1 you don't need tier 2 and so tiers whatsoever. C is such a simple language that it's fairly easy to write a compiler for it thus it's easily portable. Rust is a clusterfuck.
>>107078458
Now try to actually compile something. Most of that is "tier 3" or in non-tranny "probably not working, idgaf" basically.

>>107080748
>doesn't know what rust support tiers are
>doesn't know that gcc doesn't have an equivalent. i.e. ZERO platforms are tier 1
>doesn't recognize a debian page in a debian thread
tech illiterate /g/eet #4567815991

>>107081048
>>doesn't know that gcc doesn't have an equivalent. i.e. ZERO platforms are tier 1
>gcc doesn't tier their platforms therefore gcc doesn't have perfect support for anything
Anon, I...

>>107081077
So how many architectures does GCC have CI set up for?

>>107081496
desu, GCC can't even have a rust equivalent for a simple reason any tech literate would know. i may reveal it later, but i will let the tards tard out more first. lol

>>107080518
>>107070683 (OP)
>not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software on retro computing devices
So its about forcing everyone to upgrade hardware? This wouldn't be so bad if these faggots didn't cry about ewaste and the environment between dilations.

>>107074211
Fuck these Canonical motherfuckers.

>>107082084
>/g/eet pretending he still owns hardware with non-2's complement arch

>>107071884
>[deletes all your passwords from your browser]
>"nothin' personel, kid"
lol. Also who the fuck has the time to read the news files? What a retard.

>>107071898
I mean is debian usable without apt? there goes their leadership in cross-platform support, kek

>>107081496
Language so bad you can't just translate it into executable, you need CI for testing if it does that good enough, LMAO.

>>107081687
You mean that rustc translates into LLVM language and not directly machine code and thus easier to check if it's correct? I assume optimizations are done after by LLVM which makes tests possible.

>>107082331
>can't just translate it into executable
tech illiterate /g/eet #4567815991 strikes again.
>You mean that rustc translates into LLVM language
no. the same would apply to other codegen backends (cranelift, gcc). and your level of understanding how literally anything works is really tech illiterate level. it's not an exaggeration.

>>107082439
Ok, you're just a stupid, thanks for confirmation.

>>107071169
>>107077975
>>107078145
t. Brainlets
Rust is a real improvement over C and is taking over not only Linux but enterprise market shares from C++
Also calling it a faggot lang is not the flex you think it is, imagine being outbrained by trannies

>>107082667
>corporates overtake world
Anything new gigathinker?